root wrote:
5564 5565 5566 5567 5568
ais523A4F4F A4F
BobTHJA7P7F A7F
comex A4A4A A4F
ehird P4P4A F4A
Ivan Hope A4F4F F4P
Murphy
tusho wrote:
2008/6/30 Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well I nominate Pavitra, as ZEFRAM tried to do it, and I think E is right.
I support this nomination or whatever.
These were both to the PF. Discussion ends and voting begins at
Wed 2 Jul 17:59:17 UTC. (Sorry, the later attempt to retract
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The voting period has already ended on these proposals.
Hmm; the agora_sync program is supposed to remove proposals
corresponding to Agoran proposals that are no longer open, and was
working right a while ago.
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 07:08 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The voting period has already ended on these proposals.
Hmm; the agora_sync program is supposed to remove proposals
corresponding to Agoran proposals that are no
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 00:23 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
C#D# F#G#A#
Player C D E F G A B Total
DbEb GbAbBb
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Upon the adoption of this proposal, all members of contracts using
phrases like X CAN act on behalf of Y SHOULD amend them to X CAN
cause Y to act.
Doesn't this sort of thing lead to thinking of Players as avatars, and
not
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Conductor's Lead Sheet
http://zenith.homelinux.net/conductor/
I just noticed that your combination page displays a minor chord as
valid in the Major chord section, and a major chord as valid in the
Minor Chord section for me.
2008/7/1 Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I change my name to ehird.
Please don't, this is confusing enough as it is.
(We need a Reasonability Court.)
tusho
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CoE: ehird has the patent title Plagiarist.
You realize that only has meaning for things that self-ratify, yes?
Tell that to the people who made CoEs when the term had absolutely no
definition in the Rules.
ais523 wrote:
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 00:23 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
C#D# F#G#A#
Player C D E F G A B Total
DbEb GbAbBb
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/1 Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I change my name to ehird.
Please don't, this is confusing enough as it is.
As an unregulated action, I change avpx's name to avpx.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:13 AM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 08:08 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Your mail to 'agora-official' with the subject
OFF: [Notary] Contracts and Changes
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The reason
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BobTHJ wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Conductor's Lead Sheet
http://zenith.homelinux.net/conductor/
I just noticed that your combination page displays a minor chord as
valid in
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, Elliott Hird wrote:
2008/7/1 Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I change my name to ehird.
Please don't, this is confusing enough as it is.
(We need a Reasonability Court.)
It may not be effective. It does not successfully distinguish
that person in all ranges of
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:40 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CoE: ehird has the patent title Plagiarist.
You realize that only has meaning for things that self-ratify, yes?
Tell that to the people who made CoEs when the
Sgeo wrote:
I propose a proposal titled Breaking Contracts, AI=1.5 II=1
{
Create a Power=1.5 rule titled Breaking Contracts with the following text
{{
Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, a player bound by a contract or
pledge
Pledges are a subset of contracts.
CAN, by announcement,
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can the large-message limit be upped to say 2MB?
Or just give the Notary an exemption, like the Rulekeepor.
-root
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 10:24 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can the large-message limit be upped to say 2MB?
Or just give the Notary an exemption, like the Rulekeepor.
Or, I suppose, stop making so many contracts.
--
ais523
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BobTHJ wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Conductor's Lead Sheet
http://zenith.homelinux.net/conductor/
I just
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can the large-message limit be upped to say 2MB?
Or just give the Notary an exemption, like the Rulekeepor.
No, seriouslyI finally got rid of my
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can the large-message limit be upped to say 2MB?
Or just give the Notary an exemption,
2008/7/1 Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You use Gmail. What do you need a hard drive for?
-root
Mirroring google.
tusho
Here's an interesting idea I've thought up, to add mandatory politics
into decisions about voting.
Proto: Mandatory Proxy voting (AI=2, II=1)
Replace the third paragraph of rule 2156 with:
{{{
Proxy is a player switch, tracked by the Assessor, with a range of all
players; for each player,
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:52 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Sgeo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With Agoran Consent, I act on behalf of Agora to award a win to myself
and all persons who support my acting on behalf of Agora in this way.
I support.
--Ivan Hope
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Proxy is a player switch, tracked by the Assessor, with a range of all
players; for each player, the default value of eir Proxy is that player
emself. Any player CAN flip eir Proxy by announcement.
Perhaps limit Proxy changes to
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words, you don't get to cast votes on ordinary decisions
yourself, you have to nominate someone else who will vote on your
behalf, or you get a criminal case against you and your votes are
wasted. Let the politics begin!
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, seriouslyI finally got rid of my Commodore 64 and have now
upgraded to a 286 running Windows 3.1 with a 200MB hard drive! I think
the world is ready for messages longer than 40KB.
Mobile phones sure aren't.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:27 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, seriouslyI finally got rid of my Commodore 64 and have now
upgraded to a 286 running Windows 3.1 with a 200MB hard drive! I think
the world is ready for
2008/7/1 Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Does anyone check their Agora mail exclusively via a portable
device(serious question)?
No. I check via gmail's web mobile interface on my iPhone at night,
though.
And if I need to reply I use its Basic HTML view (otherwise the
textbox is too small to go
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I spend C E G to increase Quazie's VVLOD by 1.
I spend C E G to increase Wooble's VVLOD by 1.
I spend Db F Ab to increase ais523's VVLOD by 1.
I thank Murphy for eir kindness.
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 11:20 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words, you don't get to cast votes on ordinary decisions
yourself, you have to nominate someone else who will vote on your
behalf, or you get a criminal case
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/7/1 Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Does anyone check their Agora mail exclusively via a portable
device(serious question)?
No. I check via gmail's web mobile interface on my iPhone at night,
though.
And if I need
Why is Schrodinger's Cat, who has 0 notes, in the report, but I'm not?
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not really. You make the contract a partnership, have all the parties
sponsor it, and require it to cast the exact number of votes you'd
have cast under the old system. Result: same system we have now, with
an added
Proto: Functional Programming (AI=2)
Amend Rule 2162 (Switches) by renaming it Functions and changing its
text to read:
The rules can define functions by specifying the following:
a) The name, domain and codomain of the function.
b) Exactly one value from the codomain which
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:53 PM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I call for judgement on the following statement: {{{If an officer
attempts to post a self-ratifying report to a public forum, but it does
not arrive until over a week after it left the officer's technical
domain of control, the
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BobTHJ wrote:
Casting a vote of SELL (X) on a proposal is equivalent to posting a
Sell Ticket with a cost of X and endorsing the filler of that Sell
Ticket.?
Sounds good for the sell side, but I'd still like to see I buy up
Time for crop watering again. I'll hold off a couple days to give you
time to harvest those Water Rights Vouchers.
BobTHJ
2008/7/1 Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
5582 O0 1ais523 another probably unsuccessful attempt at...
FOR * 6
It's democratic.
root wrote:
I wrote a script back when notes were adopted for finding an optimal
combination of simultaneously spendable chords. I haven't gotten
around to modifying it to account for transpositions, however. I'm
willing to share it, if anyone is interested.
I've been pondering scrapping
comex wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:53 PM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I call for judgement on the following statement: {{{If an officer
attempts to post a self-ratifying report to a public forum, but it does
not arrive until over a week after it left the officer's technical
domain of
2008/7/1 Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I rename my lands as follows:
land #4 North Canton
land #18South Canton
land #21Times Square
land #28Black Adder
land #2 Twilight Zone
land #54C++
land #57Zoeland
land #66Suber
land
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can the large-message limit be upped to say 2MB?
No. The *vast* majority of messages are well under 40KB. There are a
few users that regularly post large messages, they are specifically
exempted. The purpose of the limit is to
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can the large-message limit be upped to say 2MB?
No. The *vast* majority of messages are well under 40KB. There are a
few users that regularly post large
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I understand the reasoning behind the limitit just seems the
limit is set too low. Were it expanded to even 200KB it would be rare
that you would ever have to manually approve a legitimate message.
I appreciate your
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It follows from this that were someone to guess the Right Hand content
referred to in the Left Hand and to become a Partner of the Left Hand
by announcement, eir act of joining would most likely fail to bind em
to the
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without three objections I intend to amend the RBOA contract as follows:
{
Create a new section:
{{
Whenever a player transfers a Digit Ranch and a Water Rights Voucher
to the
Reformed
Bank of Agora the Treasurer CAN and
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:53 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without three objections I intend to amend the RBOA contract as follows:
{
Create a new section:
{{
Whenever a player transfers a Digit Ranch and a Water Rights
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It follows from this that were someone to guess the Right Hand content
referred to in the Left Hand and to become a Partner of the Left Hand
by announcement, eir act of joining would
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is possible to agree to all of Left Hand, and then have the court
toss out a clause (but not the whole agreement) or declare the clause
non-functional because the clause conflicts with a rule or is otherwise
illegal.
The
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I object as well, there is no harm in the Bank owning extra assets, it
only increases the value of the bank without terribly unbalancing the
AAA. However, if
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:16 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without three objections I intend to amend the RBOA contract as follows:
{
Create a new section:
{{
Whenever a player transfers a Digit Ranch and a Water Rights
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Coauthors to this proposal are doopy, pikhq, Chester Mealer, and Murphy.
Umm, what proposal?
Angoran Economics
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 18:29 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Coauthors to this proposal are doopy, pikhq, Chester Mealer, and Murphy.
Umm, what proposal?
On Jun 30, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Sgeo wrote:
I proposal a proposal called Overturn 1103, AI=3 II=2
{
Change the first paragraph of Rule 1482 from
{{
In a conflict between Rules with different Power, the Rule with
the higher Power takes precedence over the Rule with the lower
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PROTO-PROPOSAL POWER SHIFT (AI = 3):
CHANGE THE POWER OF ALL RULES CURRENTLY OF POWER 1 TO 2, ALL RULES CURRENTLY
OF POWER 2 TO 3, AND ALL RULES CURRENTLY OF 3 TO 1. THESE MUTATIONS HAPPEN
SIMULTANEOUSLY TO PREVENT AN
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 30, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Sgeo wrote:
I proposal a proposal called Overturn 1103, AI=3 II=2
{
Change the first paragraph of Rule 1482 from
{{
In a conflict between Rules with different Power, the Rule with
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not really. You make the contract a partnership, have all the parties
sponsor it, and require it to cast the exact number of votes you'd
have cast under the
On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:21 PM, Quazie wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Benjamin Schultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 30, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Sgeo wrote:
I proposal a proposal called Overturn 1103, AI=3 II=2
{
Change the first paragraph of Rule 1482 from
{{
In a conflict between
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see how this makes any difference whatsoever. A person
entering into the agreement in this manner would either have to agree
to the Right Hand, forgoing eir R101(v) right to not be considered
bound by it, or else e
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:50 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
== CFJ 2032 ==
The hypothetical contract in the evidence section, if made a
contest, would be
http://zenith.homelinux.net/acronyms/
Suggested improvements welcome.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:59 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ais523 was a person on Agora's birthday.
Argument against: By eir own admission, e was not capable of
communicating in English via email during Agora's
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, ihope wrote:
Also, is there precedent to the effect that parts of an organism are
not themselves organisms? Assuming not, I register, futile as this
attempt may be. (Note that I am Ivan Hope CXXVII's left hand, and I
typed this paragraph by myself. Please don't prosecute
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Taral wrote:
As an unregulated action, I change my nickname to Taral.
-- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's next, Michael dropping by for a visit?
On Jun 30, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Michael
On Tuesday 01 July 2008 21:38:56 Ed Murphy wrote:
http://zenith.homelinux.net/acronyms/
Suggested improvements welcome.
That appears to be a helpful guide, especially for newcomers. Perhaps a few
contract-based acronyms? You could put them in another section if you like.
For example, AAA and
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:29 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see how this makes any difference whatsoever. A person
entering into the agreement in this manner would either have to agree
to the Right Hand, forgoing
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, ihope wrote:
Also, is there precedent to the effect that parts of an organism are
not themselves organisms? Assuming not, I register, futile as this
attempt may be. (Note that I am Ivan Hope CXXVII's
On Tuesday 01 July 2008 16:23:22 Ian Kelly wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Coauthors to this proposal are doopy, pikhq, Chester Mealer, and Murphy.
I join the following, which becomes a contract as soon as doopy agrees to
it (he's sort of
In my Agoran Economics contract (which can only get off the ground if people
*join*), I say that only a player may be a corporation. However, a
partnership can only exist if it does not have the same basis as another
player, per rule 2144 (Limited Partnerships). Now, I'd expect and hope it to
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://zenith.homelinux.net/acronyms/
Suggested improvements welcome.
MwP.
The various degree abbreviations.
SLM (Short Logical Monsterset).
DSV (Deep Submergence Vehicle).
-root
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://zenith.homelinux.net/acronyms/
Suggested improvements welcome.
MwP.
The various degree abbreviations.
SLM (Short Logical Monsterset).
DSV (Deep
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Nick Vanderweit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my Agoran Economics contract (which can only get off the ground if people
*join*), I say that only a player may be a corporation. However, a
partnership can only exist if it does not have the same basis as another
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