Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Airstrip One] Flight Schedule

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 05:07 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: BOTH nicks? On 2009-05-20, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: 13 Arnold Bros (est. 1905) 15 ehird Obviously people like your old nick more than your new one... -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/5/20 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:05 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: coppro                 3  3  6  3  7  0  2  2  1  1  4  2      34 18 May 2009 00:00:00 - coppro +D gained points, +D# awarded points, +E judgment, +F# weekly duties, +C# AI=2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Conductor] Lead Sheet

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 15:00 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: 2009/5/20 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 17:05 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: coppro 3 3 6 3 7 0 2 2 1 1 4 2 34 18 May 2009 00:00:00 - coppro +D gained

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 18:53 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/5/20 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2494 I judge TRUE by my own arguments. I intend, with two

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 18:53 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/5/20 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2494 I judge TRUE by my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 18:53 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/5/20 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: I intend, with two support, to appeal this judgment because remanding here was an awful tiebreakre. I submit the following proposal, Two tiered tiebreaker, AI 2.0:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Airstrip One] Flight Schedule

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/5/20 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 05:07 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: BOTH nicks? On 2009-05-20, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: 13  Arnold Bros (est. 1905) 15  ehird Obviously people like your old nick more than

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:52, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Amend Rule 911 (Appeal Cases) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after the paragraph in which the above deletion occurred:      If the time period ends with no majority judgement, then:      - if the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: [The Justiciar can just submit an opinion when e feels like it, and it's used as the tiebreaker when needed]. Can you remove the hot-or-cold thing at the same time? This serves a similar purpose,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 14:19 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: [The Justiciar can just submit an opinion when e feels like it, and it's used as the tiebreaker when needed]. Can you remove the hot-or-cold

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I withdraw my previous proposal, Two tiered tiebreaker. I submit the following proposal, Two tiered tiebreaker, AI 2.0, ais523 coauthor: - Amend Rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: - otherwise, the case enters an overtime period, which lasts for four days. The CotC SHOULD publicly remind the Justiciar when an overtime period begins. During this period, if the Justiciar publishes a Justiciar's

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: If the time period ends with no majority judgement, then: - if the Justiciar has published an opinion on the case clearly marked as the Justiciar's Opinion and indicating a valid judgement, and that judgement is the same as one given by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: 7-man panel: REMAND REMAND REMAND REASSIGN REASSIGN OVERRULE -no judgment- the Justiciar picks OVERRULE, and that's the judgment. *shrug* I thought about making the Justiciar pick only from among the ones with most votes, but frankly, panels

DIS: Re: BUS: MwoPs should not incur obligations

2009-05-20 Thread comex
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Justiciar has no duty (AI=2) Aw, I was expecting something much more interesting. Proto: Rests CANNOT be created in a Minister Without Portfolio's possession, rules to the contrary notwithstanding.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: - Otherwise, the Justiciar (or, failing that, the CotC) shall choose a judgment such that if every undecided panelist chose that judgment, no other judgment would have been chosen more often (so in the above instance, e could pick REMAND or REASSIGN) Consider the actual recent

DIS: Re: BUS: Trade / Farming

2009-05-20 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On May 20, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Charles Reiss wrote: I harvest 1482 (recently repealed rule number) to destroy a random land held by OscarMeyr. As a sage once said: Of course you realize this means war! - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Referential votes default to PRESENT

2009-05-20 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: Referential votes default to PRESENT Amend Rule 2127 (Conditional Votes) by replacing each instance of: that voter's valid votes on that decision. with: that voter's valid votes on that decision, or PRESENT otherwise. You should also replace

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [s-b] [Notary] Report (null)

2009-05-20 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Alex Smith wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 19:01 -0400, Warrigal wrote (in spoon-business): On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: CONTRACTS - (none) I agree to all documents as public contracts. I call for judgement on the statement Warrigal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Kerim Aydin wrote: You mean affirm based on the arguments of Murphy and Goethe where both appellants argued for a non-affirm? Did that mean that Pavitra wasn't paying attention, or that e accepted the arguments of Murphy (that the judgement was wrong) but realized from the arguments of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Referential votes default to PRESENT

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: Referential votes default to PRESENT Amend Rule 2127 (Conditional Votes) by replacing each instance of: that voter's valid votes on that decision. with: that voter's valid votes on that decision, or PRESENT otherwise. You should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MwoPs should not incur obligations

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: Proto: Rests CANNOT be created in a Minister Without Portfolio's possession, rules to the contrary notwithstanding. A license to break the rules at will? Thank you, no. Proto: Rests CANNOT be created in a Minister Without Portfolio's possession to penalize eir inaction, rules to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MwoPs should not incur obligations

2009-05-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: comex wrote: Proto: Rests CANNOT be created in a Minister Without Portfolio's possession, rules to the contrary notwithstanding. A license to break the rules at will? Thank you, no. Proto: Rests CANNOT be created in a Minister Without Portfolio's possession to

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA pledge

2009-05-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Benjamin Caplan wrote: I agree to the following: snip Pavitra Rather than set up a bunch of pledges, wouldn't it be easier to use the IBA? which allows these operations to take place platonically and provides a nice consistent framework (I do believe I have one outstanding Offer).