for taking the time to write this up carefully.
--
Michael Slone
:
A distribution is where the Promotor starts
I'd reword this.
You initiate an infraction case in the same way as a criminal case,
specifying the defendent, the violated rule and the alleged
^
This should be defendant.
--
Michael
On 2013-07-30, Fool wrote:
Anyways, you can't leave. Pretty sure I explained that right off the bat...
It's easy to leave. Staying away is another matter.
--
Michael Slone
Short Logical Ruleset, so I might
not have the current rules.
--
Michael Slone
the and befuddled me into
misinterpreting the ifs.
--
Michael Slone
On 2013-07-25, omd wrote:
Just noticed something to add - it's recognition in 2369.
Thanks! Added.
--
Michael Slone
at
which at least one person won the game. When used as a
period of time, a game is the period of time between a
pivot and the next pivot.
Revision history.
2013-07-23.
* First version.
--
--
Michael Slone
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:47 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote:
m.sl...@gmail.com
Don't use me in support of your argument. Just because I'm not using
a proper email client doesn't mean I have to like it.
--
Michael Slone
Happy birthday, Agora!
--
Michael Slone
aka Maud
root wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Elliott Hird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is your first post, right?
I can't see anything else by you in the logs.
If so, do you know what Agora Nomic is? This isn't a
/lurk
On 6/19/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Never mind all the rules that carry out mathematics without using
number, in which case R1023(a) may not apply anyway. I suggest
amending it to All mathematics is restricted to real numbers
unless explicitly specified otherwise.
You mean
is executed by announcement..
^
Speling era.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
There must be evil in the rules somewhere
-- Quazie, in agora-discussion
On 6/11/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Spurious of?
It's just reification of indices. I don't see the problem.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
5. You literal-brained, procedural-minded, bozos. :)
-- Goethe, in agora-discussion
of the Courts by private
message. I don't see a good reason to delete this sentence.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
You know you're not abusing your station enough when people don't want
you out.
-- root, in agora-discussion
On 6/9/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hereby cause the Hanging Judge to be deregistered, provided that
this does not cause me to cease to be a player.
What grants you the power to deregister the Hanging Judge?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Agora: a self-supporting cycle of evil
?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I tried once, but according to Kelly I only said I did.
-- Goethe, in agora-discussion
, there's no such thing as an infinite
number.
In any case, I don't understand why y'all seem to think that someone
not party to an agreement can modify properties which essentially
supervene on that agreement.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I am, nonetheless, curious to see what y'all have been up
. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Ah, finally an excuse to have some vindictive fun!
-- Oerjan, in agora-business
On 6/7/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While we have a great tradition of not being speciesist regarding
personhood (CFJ 1614 et al), the phrase root's keyboard proposes
What tradition?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Well, it's succinct, at least.
-- Kelly, in agora
that's been changed
recently.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Yes.
-- Sherlock, in agora-discussion
.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I dance a dance of welcome. A welcomy kind of dance. Come dance with
me well. Well, come dance. Welcome dance!
-- Blob, in agora-discussion
On 6/3/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The quorum for an Agoran decision is NEV^0.55, rounded up, where
Quorum should be asymptotically linear. This is too low (in general).
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
What is this fixing?
-- The Goddess Eris, in agora
On 5/31/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The quorum for an Agoran decision is ceil(sqrt(NEV)), where NEV
^^^
This would look better written out.
I can't say I support the decrease in quorum.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Aww
should consider another ``case'' here.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Channeling Mojo Jojo, are we?
-- Chuck, in agora-discussion
.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I'm not at work so I don't have my SLR handy[.]
-- Manu, in agora-discussion
by the Pineapple Partnership, and I don't accept that
the Pineapple Partnership judged CFJ 1623.
I'll try to remember to appeal both of these when I reregister, even
though the first was never called and the second was never judged, if
it will make you happy.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Upon
are the consequences of em doing
so?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I'm not at work so I don't have my SLR handy[.]
-- Manu, in agora-discussion
. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I'm on vacation. Sorry about that.
-- root, in agora-discussion
to make it matter or not matter; I was not sure what
``nested bullets'' meant, so I picked something I knew how to define.
I also walk near lightposts when I've lost my keys in a dark alley.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
But I won't try to explain Latin grammar to people who have no need
of protectorate nomics, as well as
Not the Ambassador?
I'm not convinced any nomic would agree to such a ``deal''.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Channeling Mojo Jojo, are we?
-- Chuck, in agora-discussion
force to register, and so allows AIs,
teams, RL corporations, and so on.
I strongly dislike B Nomic's model of the game.
Look at rules 1-15 and 1-16. Ick ick ick.
Rule 0 is okay, I guess.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
This is a straightforward case of the classic I say I do, therefore I
do
deb bob playing before, during, or after 30 September 1993,
when rule 498 (``A player is any person who is registered as a
player...'') was enacted?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I would, given the chance, repeal about 70% of the current ruleset.
-- Kelly, in agora-discussion
(Michael Slone)
Argh! You mean I've been participating in a Ponzi scheme?
-- Oerjan, in agora-discussion
.
3. (Semi-customary) ``Within 72 hours from the time a proposal is
distributed, the Promotor shall assign it a proposal number for
reference.''
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
You know you're not abusing your station enough when people don't want
you out.
-- root, in agora
as a
synonym for the maximum element of the extended real numbers, so
there's no reason to use the term ``positive infinity'' where
``unanimity'' will do.
Third, I'd like to know the historical reasons for why the Speaker's
veto doesn't just kill the proposal.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Well
I don't see what enjoyment y'all get out of making stacks of puppets.
I know that the puppets vary slightly, but I fail to see the interest
in any of this.
In any case, it's too meta for me, and *I'm* a mathematician.
Your pal,
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I blame these homology functors
On 5/21/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
R955 curiously does not simply describe a mathematical recipe
Why is it curious? pythonomic and other formal nomics are that way --
-- _
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone) _/ \_/| - TOWNSVILLE
To read
on behalf of an entity
includes an implicit claim that it is possible to do so. Remember
that until 2005, attempting to act on behalf of an entity of which one
is not the executor constituted the Crime of Impersonation.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I see them down, I see them quiet, the crazy I sees
rule 2117 (Replacing the Vote Collector).
Repeal rule 2124 (Agoran Consent).
Repeal rule 2127 (Conditional Votes).
--
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Whooops! Free Kudos!
-- Manu, in agora-discussion
of a particular office is announced in a given quarter, then the
IADoP shall ensure that such an attempt is made during the
subsequent quarter.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Upon reading this, a most curious sensation overcame me.
-- Sherlock, in agora-discussion
, and an
action without objection is an action without one objection.
--
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
(This makes me sad.)
-- Sherlock, in agora-discussion
instance of the
text reading Registrar with text reading Herald.
--
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I'm pretty sure the proposer of such a thing would receive a Genuine
Agora Smackdown. [TM]
-- Sherlock, in agora-discussion
for the other side of the issue.''
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I don't understand this proto, although it makes me vaguely
uncomfortable for some reason.
-- Goethe, in agora-discussion
a message is
performed at the time date-stamped on that message.
with text reading:
A message is public if and only if it is sent via a public forum
or is sent to all players and contains a clear designation of
intent to be public.
--
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone
I hereby place a bounty of one magic cookie and a (virtual) pat on the
back to the first person to write a good proto or proposal which would
repeal rules 1688, 1482, and 1030. Goodness of protos and proposals
will be evaluated relative to my biases, of course.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone
On 5/10/07, Michael Slone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I no longer wish to discuss anything at all with you.
Okay, I'm done with the above pointless nonsense.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Don't you mean I say I don't, therefore I don't, I say I do, therefore
I don't, or I don't say I do
offered.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
It's your fault, H. Notary!
-- Manu, in agora-discussion
hand, we have too many
rules with power 1, 3, or 4 and not enough with power 2, so I have no
objections to this modification.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
You make it sound as if publishing out-of-copyright works is somehow
morally suspect.
-- Michael, in agora-discussion
to the next line
and reattached to the stray ``(es)''.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
At least one out of three Active Noise Agorans disagree.
-- Goethe, in agora-discussion
On 5/15/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mon 14 May 18:00:12 Maud deregisters
This time has not been converted to UTC. My deregistration occurred
at 18:00:12 -0400, which I believe is 22:00:12 UTC.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I couldn't possibly monkey with that! Or could I
is tenuous anyway, this would hardly be a change.)
On the other hand, forcibly deregistering players who are members of
in partnerships would be an overreaction.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I support this, partly because it makes sense and partly for the
marvyness of having a useful rule
On 5/14/07, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
14 May 2007 18:52:21 Sherlock deregisters.
14 May 2007 18:00:12 Maud deregisters.
I think the time you give for my deregistration is incorrect, since I
deregistered after Sherlock did.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
In Australia
On 5/13/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You, sir, are cited for the use of domain-specific meanings in a
general context. :P
I would expect a goddess to know not to call me ``sir''.
--
C. Maud Image There's your clue right there, Your Chaoticity!
-/
I'm not invited to
(Michael Slone)
When you people agree to shrink the ruleset a bit, I'll be back.
-- The Goddess Eris, in agora-business
?
Whenever a Player registers, Currency shall be created in the amount of
$1,000 and given to em. When a Player de-registers, any Currency they
possess shall be destroyed.
What does it mean to create or destroy Currency?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I dance the dance of the objectionable; no, that's
in place, and I don't see myself proposing the
Switches proto until executors are back in place. It does not look
like that will happen for at least five months. So please, don't let
me stop you from proposing things.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
That's scary.
-- The Goddess Eris
voting only by
those members that are persons.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I am hereby issuing a challenge to write a good proposal that
incorporates this awesomely bad idea.
-- Sherlock, in agora-discussion
interviewed in English via an interpreter; e could in
principle use email and attempt to register as a player of Agora.
I no longer wish to discuss anything at all with you.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
-- Kelly, in agora-discussion
the text if e was not standing
when it was called with if e is not standing.
There's no need for conditional edits here.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Sorry about that.
-- root, in agora-discussion
. There is no *point* to
outlawing something impossible, but there is also no contradiction in
doing so.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
my record has been stained
-- Andre, in agora-discussion
On 5/8/07, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Illegal must be explicitly defined.
One could make a good argument for the claim that the word ``illegal''
is primarily used in legal contexts.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I would, given the chance, repeal about 70% of the current ruleset
that requires a deontic logic to include it as an
axiom.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Well, it's succinct, at least.
-- Kelly, in agora-discussion
something more useful to say on the subject after that.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Haha! This is mildly amusing!
-- Manu, in agora-discussion
On 5/8/07, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. I hate this terminology.
I don't understand your complaint.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I flip such-and-such switch to mango
-- Murphy, in agora-discussion
On 5/8/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We need something akin to RFC 2119.
I have tried before with little success to introduce a semantics for
modal logic (or if you like, deontic logic) into Agora. Perhaps the
time has come?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I tried once
an old proto on notices which I may dust off.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
We could really cut down on unnecessary duplication by having the
Speaker do everything. :)
-- Kelly, in agora-discussion
, not making it impossible.
Are you thinking of ``A player can not transfer Fee to Foo''?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
So, as usual, the truth of the statement may be decided on issues
completely orthogonal to its original intent. How Agoran.
-- Blob, in agora-discussion
rewrite of
rule 1871 is not an attempt to counteract it, if that's what you mean.
I included a rewrite of this rule because my first version of
Switches reborn did and the rule still exists.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
That's scary.
-- The Goddess Eris, in agora-discussion
want to come back five years later and
say, ``Oh wait, e wasn't Lexicographor, e could not have flipped those
switches.'' It would be much better to say, ``Oh, wait, e wasn't
Lexicographor, e should not have flipped those switches, but e did.''
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
It is axiomatic
. This proposal
read:
-begin quote-
Upon the adoption of this Proposal, all outstanding debts in VEs that
arose from Rule 1946 prior to July 14, 2001, are forgiven.
--end quote--
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
[I can do this by hand, so I will. Besides, it's raining. -G.]
. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Give me all your money or I'll pinch you.
-- Steve, in an example
.
As I argued above, these are the only players who can submit valid
ballots on the decision.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
If anyone has ideas or thinks this is laudable or stupid
please do chime in.
-- Riail, in agora-discussion
. See rule 107.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Thanks for playing. Tell your friends!
-- OscarMeyr, in agora-discussion
On 5/4/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I note, in passing, that we don't in practice require the notice
defined by R107 to be explicit.
The rules do not vanish when we choose to ignore them.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I think someone has a comprehension problem here. I don't think
for as
long as we can than to pin it down to a theory drafted in seven days
to deal with one issue.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Maud, whatever they're putting in your coffee, I want some of.
-- Steve, in agora-discussion
be dismissed as excess.
These were CFJs 945-1044. No one claimed that this was excessive.
This is only true because I was not a player in 1997.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I'm pretty sure the proposer of such a thing would receive a Genuine
Agora Smackdown. [TM]
-- Sherlock, in agora
On 4/30/07, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't make an agreement with myself, but I agree, inasmuch as is possible,
to assign all judgements by random draw until further notice. Let me know
if anyone feels that I should corroborate my randomness.
It would help.
--
Michael Slone
a
poor prototype of professional performance as Clerk of the Courts.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Don't you mean I say I don't, therefore I don't, I say I do, therefore
I don't, or I don't say I do, therefore I do?
-- Goethe, in agora-discussion
On 4/30/07, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well...let's see. I'm off to a good start.
It's good that you brought your own CFJ.
I hereby register for Agora Nomic.
BobTHJ
Welcome to Agora, BobTHJ! You definitely picked an interesting time
to register.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael
a rule change was implemented based
on the rule number mentiioned, even though an incorrect title was also
used.
--
C. Maud specious and parochial Image (Michael Slone)
I take my right to vote seriously, and I take offense at your
derogatory denigration of my defense of democratic dogma
On 4/28/07, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
comex,
I don't think the text in the Subject: line has any legal effect, so
you might want to post a message to agora-business with body ``I
register'' to make sure.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Holy cow! This means This Time to the Public
all pretty clearly be DISMISSED as irrelevant to
the rules. Or did we get rid of that?
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Hmmm... maybe if I lift this blindfold just a little I can see who
the Mafiosi are without them noticing.
-- Macross, in a game of Mafia
this to be the purpose of the
clause.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Fish exist.
-- Goethe, in agora-business
to an expert. A judicial expert who tries this is
penalized and after judgement is disbarred. Or something like that.
That would allow you to get rid of cases of particular types and would
be Phase One of my devious plan to reintroduce A Separation of Powers.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
As far
On 4/29/07, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You'll have to contend with Rule 1450, though.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that you were Speaker.
--
Michael Slone
the argument about rule 101 (v). The
proposal would provide a filter on proposals, not force particular
proposals to pass.
I am therefore inclined to judge FALSE, as much as I'd rather judge
the other way.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
The Registrar isn't some two-year old who can only be trusted
= Mellow.)
4937 PRESENT
4938 AGAINST (I don't like the definition of ``paragraph'', and we
ought to change ``number'' to mean ``rational number''.)
4939 PRESENT (IADoP should be promoted to ``Director of Personnel''.)
4940 FOR
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I move to OVERTURN
conspire
To (from a Bard), this Title to erase:
Or Bard (plus 2 Bards) make a Bard retire.
But lest we ruin some poor minstrel's fun
No bard will be dis-bard for eir bad pun.
--end quote--
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Whooops! Free Kudos
that the named player be deregistered at
the moment the Writ is published. Hence the decision of the Trial
Judge was incorrect. Accordingly, I move to REVERSE the decision of
Judge Sherlock on CFJ 1594.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
I make harvel an Artichoke.
-- Goethe, in agora
to submit a concurring opinion.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
It's your fault, H. Notary!
-- Manu, in agora-discussion
to challenge a
proposal passed with unanimous consent, but I would not be
particularly surprised to see it happen here.
If I am misinterpreting which argument you intend, please let me know.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
What an interesting culture we've built!
-- Goethe, in agora
,
the judiciary, and the legislature and declaring the rights of
players.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
(Look, sooner or later somebody's going to become Speaker.)
-- OscarMeyr, in agora-business
Is there any way I can make myself eligible to judge CFJs, or do I
have to wait for a Notice of Rotation?
--
Michael Slone
On 3/11/07, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07 Mar 2007
While I don't mind the theoretical lack of spam, that's not my email
address.
--
Michael Slone
that can be the
subject of rights and duties, including corporations and partnerships.
Where is your argument for the claim that the Pineapple
Partnership is actually a partnership? This term also has a
legal definition.
--
Michael Slone
On 2/26/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's only the Australian law on the matter. Not applicable here.
If Austrian law does not apply to Agora, then how do you explain the Map?
--
Michael Slone
of
an inward state, namely the state of Victoria.
Hope this clears things up for you.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Bring back PROSIRUP!
On 2/19/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's some bogus line wrapping there. That wasn't in the proposal
as written.
The format of whitespace in rules is up to the Rulekeepor, so this
shouldn't end up making a difference.
--
C. Maud Image (Michael Slone)
Am I to understand
for the interpretation of the construction used in
the quoted sentence, so that similar cases don't have to be resolved
with new CFJs. I therefore propose that we appeal the judgement of
CFJ 1599.
--
Michael Slone
along proposal being dismissed as handwaving.
Then take it up with Kelly, not me.
If I have misrepresented Kelly's position, I'm sure she will let me know.
--
Michael Slone
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