Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Aris Merchant
Sounds reasonable. I'll add it to the general reports rule. -Aris On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:32 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > How about a rule to this effect: “A Convergence is a change to the > gamestate designed to resolve ambiguity in the current state. [Maybe: > Causing a

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
How about a rule to this effect: “A Convergence is a change to the gamestate designed to resolve ambiguity in the current state. [Maybe: Causing a change to the gamestate to be considered a Convergence is protected at power 3. A player may cause a gamestate change to be considered a Convergence

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Aris Merchant
This used to be true, but was changed in your absence. Rule 106 now states "Except insofar as the action performed by a proposal happen one after another, rather than simultaneously, a proposal's effect is instantaneous. A proposal can neither delay nor extend its own effect. Once a propsal

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:45 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > In Rule 105 “Rule Changes,” replace > > For absolute safety please change this to: "Amend R105 by replacing" > > > Thanks, will do. -Aris

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Aris Merchant
Yep, I evidently missed that bit. -Aris On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 2:31 AM Gaelan Steele wrote: > Why the “rounds” of cleanup? The “END CLEANUP” thing was to avoid the need > to figure out what the “actual” game state was for the purposes of the FLR > history, while still having

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 18 Mar 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > In Rule 105 “Rule Changes,” replace For absolute safety please change this to: "Amend R105 by replacing"

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
IIRC proposals are instruments with power, and that power is never revoked. Unfortunately, I don’t think a temporary rule would do the trick—unless we ratified the history of the PAoaM rules (something I’d rather not do), every future FLR might be technically “incorrect” unless we figured out

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
Why the “rounds” of cleanup? The “END CLEANUP” thing was to avoid the need to figure out what the “actual” game state was for the purposes of the FLR history, while still having the actual text changes in this proposal be annotated properly. Other than that, looks good. Thanks for picking

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Kenyon Prater
I didn't see the "entities other than Agora" change, that works. On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Kenyon Prater wrote: > In "Facilities": > >If a player owns any facilities with upkeep costs, e must pay them >before the first day of the next Agoran month. Failing

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Kenyon Prater
In "Facilities": If a player owns any facilities with upkeep costs, e must pay them before the first day of the next Agoran month. Failing to do this destroys the facility. In the second to last Eastman week of the Agoran Month, the Cartographor SHOULD issue a humiliating public

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2018-03-18 at 00:09 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > Okay, everyone, here's a revised patch. Please point out any other > issues you see. All changes more significant than a typo fix have > been moved to a new section for reader's convenience . Gaelan, some > version of this will be in this

DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Aris Merchant
Okay, everyone, here's a revised patch. Please point out any other issues you see. All changes more significant than a typo fix have been moved to a new section for reader's convenience . Gaelan, some version of this will be in this week's distribution, so you can withdraw your original. -Aris