DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Stop disincentivizing bugfixes

2020-06-28 Thread omd via agora-discussion
> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business > wrote: > > Don't know how everyone else is feeling about it but there is "Sponsored > Proposals" to fix this which IMO is more elegant of a solution. I'm okay with that too, although I’m not a big fan of having to wait, and

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Easy Summary Judgement Repeal (also includes treasuror action)

2020-06-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 11:06 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > So, as it currently stands, the Referee can impose 6 blots around anywhere > e wants for no reason whatsoever, just because e feels like it. This seems, > to put it mildly, unfair (the PM can also do this but e is a special boi, > so this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: SNOCS (Simple, No-Opportunity-Cost Sets)

2020-06-28 Thread omd via agora-discussion
> On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:12 PM, nch via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 6/28/20 7:07 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: >> Any player CAN join the contract by announcement; any party CAN leave the >> contract by announcement. Any party CAN remove another party from the >> contract >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations

2020-06-28 Thread omd via agora-discussion
> The Gamemaster CAN, by announcement, amend > the gamestate by substituting one Contestant into all instances of > another Contestant. Extra space, and it’s pretty unclear what this means. > the victor is (1) the last contestant remaining. Extra space, and what’s the (1) doing there? >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations

2020-06-28 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 8:31 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > >> The Gamemaster CAN, by announcement, amend >> the gamestate by substituting one Contestant into all instances of >> another Contestant. > > Extra space, and it’s pretty unclear what this means. It's intended to allow me to replace a

Re: DIS: Archiving Metareports

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
it's on white now, also i think nch will show me how ot archive things in the same place Murphy did it On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:44 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/28/2020 7:22 AM, Ed Strange via agora-official wrote: > > Success! Resending

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Generalized card auctions

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Jason wrote: On 6/28/20 3:11 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: [Pending fees are fine and all, but only three new Legislative Cards per month seems a bit low. This would at least raise that to four.] Officers can actually only give two legislative cards right now (since I'm both

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 23:07, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 7:33 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > > On 6/23/20 7:32 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > >> On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > >>> I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar

DIS: Re: BUS: Birthday Tournament Regulations

2020-06-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Sorry, I didn't get around to reading these until now. Thanks for going to the effort to write these! Comments inline. > 4. The judge is the final arbitor on matters of this tournament, and eir > decisions can overturned if and only if a CFJ finds eir decisions were "can overturned" > 8. At any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract charities

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 7:21 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 00:53, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/26/20 8:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: >>>This SHOULD only be done if the >>>contract's provisions ensure

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract charities

2020-06-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 00:53, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 8:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > > This SHOULD only be done if the > > contract's provisions ensure that its funds will be used solely > > for the betterment of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Easy Summary Judgement Repeal (also includes treasuror action)

2020-06-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/28/20 11:06 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > > So, as it currently stands, the Referee can impose 6 blots around > anywhere > > e wants for no reason whatsoever, just because

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/23/20 7:33 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > On 6/23/20 7:32 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: >>> I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the >>> old disinterested proposals system. The way this works is by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Interested Proposals

2020-06-28 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-28 17:07, nch via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/23/20 7:33 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: On 6/23/20 7:32 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/23/20 7:29 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: I ditched the idea of Ready Proposals for something more similar to the old

Re: DIS: [Notary] Web Report Survey

2020-06-28 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-28 14:51, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: Or both, if possible with reasonable effort, akin to MediaWiki transclusion. (I used Wikidot when I held Notary several years back, but if it supports transclusion then I was unaware of it; I just had one page per contract, then a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Honor among Pirates [Attn. All "Pirates"]

2020-06-28 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 21:45, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/16/20 3:17 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > > I could have just let this pass and banked some MAJOR coinage but the > > long-term consequences of having people be paranoid about my contracts > > isn't worth it imo, I

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Agoran Announcements

2020-06-28 Thread omd via agora-discussion
> On Jun 28, 2020, at 7:28 PM, nch via agora-business > wrote: > - If it refers to the announcement, what does it mean for an announcement to > be valid or invalid? Does an invalid announcement fail to have effect? I’d argue that being valid or invalid is not an inherent property of the

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Agoran Announcements

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 9:28 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > There was some debate and disagreement about this in the discord the > other night, so I think it's worth formally discussing. As a tangent, I don't think I could've formulated this CFJ this well without the previous discussion in discord. In

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Easy Summary Judgement Repeal (also includes treasuror action)

2020-06-28 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/28/2020 8:35 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/28/20 11:06 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: >>> So, as it currently stands, the Referee can impose 6

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Decriminalization

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
nch wrote: On 6/28/20 2:54 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: Amend Rule 2626 (Certifiable Patches) by replacing "unless its sole function is" with "unless e reasonably believes its sole function is". [In addition to quibbles about "sole function", this also covers cases like "I

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Decriminalization

2020-06-28 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-28 13:54, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: Proposal: Decriminalization (AI = 1.7) Unless I'm missing something, this is purely a ruleset-wide change in semantics from 'crime' to 'infraction', correct? Not an expansion to a system where crimes and infractions are different

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: SNOCS (Simple, No-Opportunity-Cost Sets)

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 7:07 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > Any player CAN join the contract by announcement; any party CAN leave the > contract by announcement. Any party CAN remove another party from the > contract > without objection. Each party consents to the aforementioned membership > changes.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Stop disincentivizing bugfixes

2020-06-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 5:19 PM omd via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > Don't know how everyone else is feeling about it but there is "Sponsored >

DIS: [Promotor] Tardiness

2020-06-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
The Promotor's report is going to be late. I'm going to try to have a draft out today (in the next 12 hours) and do the distribution tomorrow (in the next 36 hours). I apologise to everyone for my tardiness. I fell behind on things. Entirely my fault. In good news, the distribution will be

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADOP] Salaries

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
You already got paid salary for that week in my most recent salaries (Jun 28) - i gave it to you for your June 21 full report not your June 16 CoE revision. So there is no refund to give. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:12 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Resolving ADoP election

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
If it were an outright tie, I probably wouldn't feel right just giving it to myself, I might have rolled a dice. But PSS would have voted for you if you had voted, so you would actually would have won. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:40 AM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion <

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Glitteral

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
I didn't flag you, I guess i breached contract lol, sorry. On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 6/28/20 9:42 AM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > > COE: I claimed glitter for winning the ADOP election that I did. > > > > I'm

DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Glitteral

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
By the way the glitteral is an official weekly report now, it would probably be best to say so in the text/title in the future. On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:42 PM Ed Strange wrote: > COE: I claimed glitter for winning the ADOP election that I did. > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:14 PM Publius

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Glitteral

2020-06-28 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 9:47 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > By the way the glitteral is an official weekly report now, it would > probably be best to say so in the text/title in the future. > That's a good thought; I'll include a note to that effect in the next one. -- Publius Scribonius

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
POSITIVE KARMA POGCHAMP On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:11 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official wrote: > Herald's Weekly report > > Date of Last Report: 21 June 2020 > Date of This Report: 28 June 2020 > > Karma Entity > - -- > > +7 Jason <= SHOGUN

DIS: Archiving Metareports

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Frankly, I have no idea how to code, automatically archive stuff or anything like that. However, I did promise to put all my metareports from now on in the same, easily accessible place. Please accept this blog (which I originally intended to be a pretentious law blog, which I abandoned thank

DIS: Test (double spacing)

2020-06-28 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
=Metareport= This is the ADoP’s weekly report Date of last report: 2020-06-21 Date of this report: 2020-06-28 MISCELLANEOUS INFO -- Filled offices: 15/15 (100%) Total officers: 10 Consolidation[1]: 1.5 Late reports: 0%

DIS: Re: [attn Herald] Re: BUS: Judgment on CFJ 3858

2020-06-28 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 10:10 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > I give the same notice of honour as G below > > On Sun., 28 Jun. 2020, 12:00 pm Kerim Aydin via agora-business, < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> >> Notice of Honour >> +1 grok (for delivering a heavy judgement load under

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Resolving Ambiguous Decisions

2020-06-28 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 9:07 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > Tpf > > On Sun., 28 Jun. 2020, 11:06 am Ed Strange, > wrote: > >> I point a finger at jason for uncertain certification. Reasonable players >> may not disagree about the operation of the current wording. I have no reason to believe

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADOP] Salaries

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
R. Lee wrote: I award the following players the following amount of money for their officer reports and assessor resolutions . For more information, see the recent events section of my last weekly report. R. Lee: 5 coins (ADoP weekly x1) Falsifian: 10 coins (Registrar weekly x1, Registrar

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADOP] Salaries

2020-06-28 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:01 AM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > R. Lee wrote: > > > I award the following players the following amount of money for their > > officer reports and assessor resolutions . For more information, see the > > recent events

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Resolving ADoP election

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
R. Lee wrote: I resolve the ADoP election as follows. Quorum was 9, voting system was IRV, candidates were R. Lee and Murphy. First round R. Lee: (16) tcbapo, R. Lee, G^., twg, PSS* Murphy: (9) Aris, ATMunn, Jason Present: (3)Falsifian ^: G. had 4 voting power as speaker *PSS cast a

Re: DIS: Archiving Metareports

2020-06-28 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/28/2020 7:22 AM, Ed Strange via agora-official wrote: > Success! Resending to OFF, for those who prefer it. Yay! On 6/28/2020 7:16 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > https://leeonlaw.blogspot.com/2020/06/adop-metareport.html Bookmarked and thanks. That black on dark brown is

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Salaries

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
R. Lee wrote: Salaries I award the following players the following amount of money for their officer reports and assessor resolutions . For more information, see the recent events section of my last weekly report. R. Lee: 5 coins (ADoP weekly x1) Aris: 5 coins (Promotor weeky x1) Falsifian:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Humble Agoran farmer offers wood for sheep (oh, attn Notary btw)

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
I wrote: Oh, good catch. I intend (with Agoran consent of Collectors) to amend this contract to read, in full: Pinging R. Lee (if you consented to this change, I missed it)

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] AgoraOnline is now Online

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
nch wrote: Here it is: https://agoranomic.org/Webmastor/ Will surely receive tweaks over time. Suggestion: linkify the links.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Generalized card auctions

2020-06-28 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 3:11 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > [Pending fees are fine and all, but only three new Legislative Cards > per month seems a bit low. This would at least raise that to four.] Officers can actually only give two legislative cards right now (since I'm both Assessor and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Generalized card auctions

2020-06-28 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/28/2020 12:14 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/28/20 3:11 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: >> [Pending fees are fine and all, but only three new Legislative Cards >> per month seems a bit low. This would at least raise that to four.] > > > Officers can actually

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Generalized card auctions

2020-06-28 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/28/2020 12:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:> On 6/28/2020 12:14 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:>> On 6/28/20 3:11 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote:>>> [Pending fees are fine and all, but only three new Legislative Cards>>> per month seems a bit low. This would at least raise

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Decriminalization

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 2:54 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > Amend Rule 2626 (Certifiable Patches) by replacing "unless its sole > function is" with "unless e reasonably believes its sole function is". > > [In addition to quibbles about "sole function", this also covers cases > like "I thought X

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Put the discord on the agora home page

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Falsifian wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 1:12 PM Rebecca via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: See title Also all should join it, it has been a fun and very active atmosphere, although too small. On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 03:17, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Put the discord on the agora home page

2020-06-28 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/28/20 3:27 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Falsifian wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 1:12 PM Rebecca via agora-business < >>> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: >>> See title Also all should join it, it has been a fun and very active atmosphere,

Re: DIS: [Notary] Web Report Survey

2020-06-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Jason wrote: On 6/24/20 9:30 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: - Should everything be in one long webpage, or should each contract be split into its own page? I think it would be fine to have it all on one page with summary/details for the texts, but having everything on separate