Hold on a minute. I really don't care the least bit about underlying
code, that is, the XML that's generated by a really good design tool.
Saying you should have to learn the XML (in this case) is like saying
you have to learn the bytecode that's generated from the java code.
Sure, you always need
...with a small difference that XML was designed to be human readable
but also for machines, while the bytecode never meant to be human
readable.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:19 AM, dirk dhaa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hold on a minute. I really don't care the least bit about underlying
code, that is, the
I agree with Dirk and others. After using Microsofts development
environment, Visual Studio and asp.net for me, there is no reason to
code database connections, html tables of data etc., sql update,
delete and insert commands. If you know them that is great and it is
helpful. But by having a full
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On Apr 5, 8:25 am, Craigbtx craig...@austin.rr.com wrote:
I agree with Dirk and others. After using Microsofts development
environment, Visual Studio and asp.net for me, there is no reason to
code database connections, html tables of data etc., sql update,
delete and insert
I lol'd...
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:30 AM, nation-x shawn.payme...@gmail.com wrote:
I lol'd...
On Apr 5, 8:25 am, Craigbtx craig...@austin.rr.com wrote:
I agree with Dirk and others. After using Microsofts development
environment, Visual
At the end of the day, it comes down to an allocation of resources on
Google's part. I'd much rather have them spending time innovating Android,
it's APIs, the Android Market, and so forth, rather than building a better
GUI editor because people don't want to put in the time to learn how to do
Comparing ADT to Visual Studio is a little ridiculous. Using a .Net language
like C# in VS to design a GUI is a thing of beauty, but it's gotten to its
current point of sophistication after *a lot* of time, money, and
engineering effort. This is one of Microsoft's premier products and they've
been
I agree with the sentiment of the post.There is definitely a lot of
scope for improvment in layouts. If layout designing was on par with
other technologies it would make life easy for a lot of developers.
It is not just a matter of learning xml. I know xml fully well, and
haven't used the gui
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Leo allway...@gmail.com wrote:
It is not just a matter of learning xml. I know xml fully well, and
haven't used the gui tool yet. I only create layouts with handwritten
xml. But when you encounter two attributes like gravity and
layout_gravity you scratch your
Having developed for Android since the launch of the G1, and having
spent the last 10-11 months writing Android apps full-time, the
layouts aren't actually that bad.
Actually, RelativeLayout isn't that bad. I've never had a layout
simple enough for LinearLayout or FrameLayout, and having spent a
Our layout editors in Eclipse have been somewhat low priority for a
long time but we are now focusing some effort on it. You may have seen
that ADT 10 includes a lot of new features and we have more coming for
the next versions.
We are working on:
- better interactivity in the editor itself.
-
Is it possible to address the lack of examples in samples section on
layouts in future releases? I spent two days trying to figure how to
put 4 large images into a 2x2 grid for option selection in my first
app that I am working on. Granted my UI experience is next to NIL but
such things should be
I'm sure this is possible.
We would also like have templates in Eclipse so that you can create a
new layout with some pre-built items arranged in different ways.
We know that sometimes it's not easy to make the layouts do what you
want and we are working on making this easier.
Xav
On Tue, Apr
Maybe you should try a ListView instead.
On Apr 4, 1:01 am, grndvl1 grnd...@gmail.com wrote:
Why is it I spend more time dealing with the layout of items than the
actual coding of the program? The Eclipse Graphical Layout tool
really blows as it has a ton of errors and can't handle simple
I've actually been very happy with the progress Google has made to the
layout tools. It took a little while to get used to, but now I'm
finding it very easy to arrange and rearrange design elements.
Best,
Stephen
On Apr 3, 10:01 pm, grndvl1 grnd...@gmail.com wrote:
Why is it I spend more time
Coming from the Windows world where the tools are really top notch, I
have to agree with the sentiment (if not the presentation) of grndvl1
point. Really there should be no need to have to know the XML if you
have a good designer tool. That tool is improving for sure, but it
still has a long way
Layout is part of development. Having tools to help with that are aids
but should not be used as an excuse not to learn the underlying code.
THe designer tools only generate the structures based on the rules
programmed into them. You will always have a more detailed level of
control by going to
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