[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-04 Thread fadden
On Mar 3, 6:52 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: My point is simply this: getting actual support or answers for legitimate issues relating to the Android Market is nigh impossible - regardless of the channel one goes through. Meanwhile a thread with the threat of being spammed gets the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-04 Thread Justin Anderson
Running naked through the Google campus with your hair on fire and I /3 ANDEROID MARKT tattooed across your back would have gotten a *lot* of attention from a *lot* of googlers. I'm not sure that's the best metric for success. I'm sure more than one of us would be willing to do that if it

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-04 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, fadden fad...@android.com wrote: Running naked through the Google campus with your hair on fire and I /3 ANDEROID MARKT tattooed across your back would have gotten a *lot* of attention from a *lot* of googlers. Well there's an idea ... :D I'm not sure

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin)
Yes it was really funny. But there is a grain of joke in every joke. On 2 мар, 23:38, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/2 JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin) jalex...@gmail.com H  who do I really hate? Ironically, the fact that you have written this, makes it more obvious what

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin)
Is there a list for Market similar to this one? On 3 мар, 08:12, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Do I not count as a response from Google? Oh you mean a response answering question about Market?  As I said there, nobody from the Market team is on this list, so you shouldn't be

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread Peter Sinnott
Does http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market count? On Mar 3, 9:18 am, JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin) jalex...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a list for Market similar to this one? On 3 мар, 08:12, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Do I not count as a response from Google?

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin)
Support specialists are not developers. There is also a support forum for Android and Google Mobile, but I meant like it is here. Where developers are communicating on equal grounds, not Resuest Support/Wait For support/Get or Not Get support. On 3 мар, 11:40, Peter Sinnott psinn...@gmail.com

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Do I not count as a response from Google? Of course! Probably more so than most. However, you didn't respond to the thread I linked to, so my statement still stands. Oh you mean a response answering question about

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread Chris Stewart
Agree with everything you said TreKing. While I really appreciate the effort Dianne shows towards this list, I wish there were more Android developers putting the same effort out in other areas of the Android ecosystem. Having such insight into the Market would be a very welcome addition. --

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Yes, we really, REALLY need that meaningful interaction with Google about the market. What we have had to date is more like a parody of really bad customer service (think Lily Tomlin and the Phone Company). After all: even if we disagree with much of Rich's Rant, there is one thing we should all

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
Can anyone name an app that's been removed from the market that didn't deserve it? As far as I know, every one of them has been asking for it. Malware, spamware and Crapps that clearly are violating the terms are all that's been removed. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone name an app that's been removed from the market that didn't deserve it? Take your pick: http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/search.py?ctx=en%3Asearchboxforum=1query=app+suspended

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
Take your pick:http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/search.py?ctx=en%3Ase... Hmm. Lots of them. When Mars comes around next time for its closest pass, we'll have to send a message to the market team about that. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread Justin Giles
Hmm. Lots of them. When Mars comes around next time for its closest pass, we'll have to send a message to the market team about that. Um, I hate to burst your bubble, but life hasn't been discovered on Mars yet. For all we know, the Market team is stationed on Europa or Titan. Perhaps we

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-03 Thread Nathan
On Mar 3, 11:55 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone name an app that's been removed from the market that didn't deserve it? Take your

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
Mark, Sounds like AARP! -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Roman Nurik
The original message has been deleted for violating our Groups Charter and encouraging spamming of individuals. Rich— consider this a warning; repeat offenses will result in a ban. All— as a general note, any discussions that are not strictly related to technical questions around Android

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Katrina Swales
you do know that means spam against anyone. Not just him On 2 Mar 2011 05:29, Rich miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Romain - I will remove your email from the list! Do you have any contact information for somebody who would be more willing to listen to our grievances? Please email me off

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Katrina Swales
There are always idiots like this in any platform, something is not right for them, so they have to decide they are the voice of everyone else, To be honest the only part of this that worries me is. * we will dissuade other developers* *from developing Android projects, and we will work

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Indicator Veritatis
The following lines from the charter show whose interpretation of it is questionable. Hint: it isn't Rich's: Allowed discussion topics Most of our groups are for technical discussions of Android or users helping each other. Generally we don't put hard restrictions on the topics discussed in the

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Humiliation of alleged violators by sending them in public a warning that should have been sent only in private is a great way to blacken Google's reputation. No one will believe you anymore when you say your motto is do no evil. On Mar 2, 10:02 am, Roman Nurik romannu...@google.com wrote: The

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin)
H who do I really hate? Ironically, the fact that you have written this, makes it more obvious what a nightmare Android Market is at the moment. On 2 мар, 08:32, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: H  who do I really hate? On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Rich

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread TreKing
2011/3/2 JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin) jalex...@gmail.com H who do I really hate? Ironically, the fact that you have written this, makes it more obvious what a nightmare Android Market is at the moment. Can you explain that? I'm pretty sure she was joking, and I at least thought

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread JBQ
Rich, I'd appreciate if you could explain what made you believe that it was appropriate to ask people to spam me personally. JBQ On Mar 1, 6:56 pm, Rich miser...@gmail.com wrote: How is it silly? Manydevelopershave had their apps removed without warning and it's frankly unacceptable. I make

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Peter Sinnott
Granted spamming people not directly involved with the Market isn't going to do much to improve the situation but some people are prone to taking useless action over doing nothing. Ideally there would be some way for developers to have meaningful interaction with Google about the market instead

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread TreKing
This recent threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/318e43185f556724/fd60e3b077091a15?lnk=raot asking a simple question about the state of in-app billing has received no response from anyone at Google. This thread has received 4, 2 of which I, personally,

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
As Bill Ted would say, this is sad and bogus at the same time... On Mar 3, 11:41 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: This recent threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... asking a simple question about the state of in-app billing has received no

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread brian purgert
I'm with it :) might as well give it a shot. On Mar 2, 2011 10:55 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: As Bill Ted would say, this is sad and bogus at the same time... On Mar 3, 11:41 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: This recent thread

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-02 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Do I not count as a response from Google? Oh you mean a response answering question about Market? As I said there, nobody from the Market team is on this list, so you shouldn't be surprised by not getting responses to questions that people on this list can't answer. The people here work on the

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-01 Thread Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)
This is silly. Can't you find something better to do? -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-01 Thread Rich
How is it silly? Many developers have had their apps removed without warning and it's frankly unacceptable. I make my _living_ off of application develop and this kind of instability is intolerable, especially considering that Google has taxed me out of over ten thousand dollars. Just because

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-01 Thread Romain Guy
Rich, I am very sorry you feel this way. However, setting up an online form that may be used by anyone to spam a few individuals working on Android is not the appropriate solution (especially since these individuals, including myself, do *not* work on Market.) On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:56 PM,

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-01 Thread morrildl
I'm sorry you are not satisfied with the experience you've had with Android Market so far. I look forward to seeing your applications on other platforms. Please note that the page you have put up encourages people to send unsolicited email of a commercial nature in bulk. Spamming or a call to

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-01 Thread Rich
I'm sorry Romain - I will remove your email from the list! Do you have any contact information for somebody who would be more willing to listen to our grievances? Please email me off list if there are other email address you want removed. R On Mar 1, 10:38 pm, morrildl morri...@google.com

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

2011-03-01 Thread Dianne Hackborn
H who do I really hate? On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Rich miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Romain - I will remove your email from the list! Do you have any contact information for somebody who would be more willing to listen to our grievances? Please email me off list if