Re: [android-developers] Re: Market misery !!
On 10/10/10 10:48 , Doug wrote: I interviewed with Yahoo a while back, and their strategy is to product mobile apps and SDKs that are primarily web driven with an Android/iOS shim to access the device-specific features. Honestly, I think this is a smart move because it leverages all their web content, infrastructure, and talent while minimizing the time to market for a mobile app. FWIW, I turned them down because hybrid mobile-web apps aren't my interest and I'm trying to abandon my prior track as a web app developer. :-) That said, leverage any web content you have because the web isn't going away any time soon! I second both point - that is, for some publisher the model might make sense, and I don't like it either :-) Indeed, this is due to an architectural deficiency, I mean if people exposing a web app had a good modular architecture, they could expose it by means of REST as well and easily connecting any kind of client to it... -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Market misery !!
On 10/9/10 20:46 , Yahel wrote: I'm promoting my app all I can on my blog, myspace, facebook, twitter, tumblr and all, but the best exposition tool should normally be the market !! Don't expect that. The market is just an easy way for people to install your app, but the critical promotion will only come from you and the mentioned tools. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Follow up for the active install count problem
Just received this from the Market support: We wanted to follow-up. By now, you should have noticed that the installs metrics for your applications have been restored. We identified the problem as occurring with application updates only, have made some changes recently that should resolve and prevent this problem. Please let us know if this error persists. If we can assist you further, please let us know. In my case, things have not changed at all. Downloads are increasing (1550) and active installs stabilized at 29% (the value before the drop was 44/45%). So, indeed active installs are increasing again - 29% is stable since three weeks - but the original percentage was not restored. Now, I don't know what to think... Maybe the problem is not solved, maybe in my specific case the active installs really dropped for a while (but it's curious that it only happened for a while...). BTW, I didn't release any new upgrade since then (I have a new one almost ready, but I'm beyond schedule because of personal problems) - and maybe the count would fix itself with new upgrades... What would you do now? Is there anybody else for which the problem was not solved? -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Java classes not inclded in android
On 9/28/10 01:49 , Lance Nanek wrote: I kind of managed this the other day in a hackish sort of way. I wanted to use an open source RSS library that used java.beans.** Java classes, which aren't in Android. So I downloaded the source for those classes from the Apache Harmony project, ripped out all the references to AWT stuff, and got the library source code imported and compiling against it. Then I refactored the packages to notjava.beans.**. So anyway, sometimes you can work out a substitute for the missing Java classes and alter all references to point to that substitute. I've answered to this question a number of times recently... The quickest way to do this is not by refactoring the classes, but by using static bytecode manipulation tools. They are able to replace the references directly in bytecode, without need of patching sources and recompile them. They are available both for Ant and Maven. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Market the Google I/O 2010 features
On 9/20/10 15:05 , Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) wrote: I like The 32nd of Never better. It almost sounds like a real date. February 29th, 2011 is good too. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
On 9/18/10 12:59 , Brad Gies wrote: Actually, I am very impressed with the response, and I hope you thanked them. It would be good to encourage the Market people to respond to this kind of stuff :). For sure I personally thank people at Google working on the issue and bugs happen, so not a big problem in general. But I've to say I'm not impressed with the timing of the response, since it appears they started responding with much delay, when a lot of people here got upset and puzzled about what was happening. Since the bug has been confirmed, and it's a blatant bug (I mean, it might be difficult to find a fix and apply it, but I'd expect that some consistency check at Google should raise the warning early, especially then the first people start to complain), I hope that anything similar in future will be posted to an official Google blog before so many people start scratching their heads for months. I mean: many other kind of bugs are annoying, but not as annoying as this one, since it has to do with the people's feedback about your app. The feedback channel with users is already broken enough, as it has been said many times, and when you put a big effort in providing yourself the information, the feedback channels, you try to fix bugs and add features that people are asking for, and you see what's supposed to be the most important metric decreasing (*), well, you might be tempted to give up (especially if you're on a free project). (*) Downloads are not the most important thing for me. They are somewhat a measure of how you good are in making people aware of you, while the active install ratio is the measure of how much people like your stuff. In this situation, with downloads steadily increasing and active ratio steadily decreasing, I've been thinking for a long time that I was relatively good in inform people of my product, but I was describing it a cut above its real value. Sort of good ad, bad implementation. Fortunately, it *could* not be that way. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Clarification about ImageView.setImageURI()
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/14/10 14:02 , Fabrizio Giudici wrote: I'm using ImageView.setImageURI() to render an image that has been previously downloaded from the Internet. It works fine, but I haven't understood whether the call is blocking or not. In my code, I've implemented a background thread to download the bits, in the meantime a placeholder is rendered, and as soon as a download is complete, setImageURI() is called. This approach is used both for a Gallery with thumbnails and for a single, large rendered with ImageView. The thing is working, but I see that the application freezes for a while when a download has been completed and setImageURI() is called. Which make me wonders whether I'm using it properly. For the record, I know that the images I'm downloading are larger than I need (at least initially); that is, they are much larger than the thumbnail and the large viewer. Since images, once downloaded, are stored locally forever, I should probably create some smaller-size previews in background and then pass them to Gallery and ImageView? Would that make the UI really more responsive? Anybody here...? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkySJHwACgkQeDweFqgUGxeAPgCfYWxFYRudMVkTzkLfusVUWaBS B7cAoLEKO7410fblPivzb47ozhzqX/3K =Q2i7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] OOM after ImageView.setImage() make the phone irresponsive - how to protect?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My app, among other things, downloads and displays images from the Internet. Some might be too large and trigge an OOM when ImageView.setImage() is called. Of course, this normally makes the application to crash. I've put catch (OutOfMemoryError e) around the method invocation. I know that catching errors is unusual, but in JSE applications it proved to work pretty good, especially when the problem was due to image manipulation that consumed all the memory. The Android app seemed to survive for a while, but then it blocked the computer. All buttons are irresponsive, even though the phone seems still alive (e.g. it's playing the audio notification that new email has been spotted). I tried holding the power button, it triggered the shut down menu, but touching a menu option didn't do anything. Only after a while, the phone became responsive again. Now, it's reasonable that one can't display everything on a smartphone; I'm sure there's some inefficient memory management I'm doing (perhaps keeping too many images in memory); ok, I have to improve my code. Given that I'll do, how can I add some safety facility to avoid the most severe consequences? Making an irresponsive application it's a 100% sure way to make people to uninstall my app and give bad reviews. I'm thinking of a two-pronged safety approach: 1) whether it's possible to understand in advance whether an image is too large to be rendered by itself; 2) whether it's possible to recover from an OOM in any case. Thanks. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkySa8cACgkQeDweFqgUGxd0WACgqxeDnLvof8nnry2YN6spYXy6 Ga8An0CujetPySu44VsNJsAyL+BIpz1S =cQIf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] OOM after ImageView.setImage() make the phone irresponsive - how to protect?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/16/10 21:11 , Fabrizio Giudici wrote: My app, among other things, downloads and displays images from the Internet. Some might be too large and trigge an OOM when ImageView.setImage() is called. For the record, the worse OOM (the one which crashes the phone) is one that I haven't caught, as it originates from the event loop (see below). In particular, it seems that ImageView.onMeasure() causes the whole decoding of the image. It sounds strange, as I presume that onMeasure() only needs the image dimensions, and it should be possible to retrieve them *without* decoding the bitmap. In any case, I'm now going to try subclassing ImageView and put a catch (OOM) around that onMeasure(). Any other idea? E/AndroidRuntime(15277): java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: bitmap size exceeds VM budget E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.graphics.BitmapFactory.nativeDecodeStream(Native Method) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.graphics.BitmapFactory.decodeStream(BitmapFactory.java:459) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.graphics.BitmapFactory.decodeFile(BitmapFactory.java:271) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.graphics.BitmapFactory.decodeFile(BitmapFactory.java:296) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.graphics.drawable.Drawable.createFromPath(Drawable.java:801) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.ImageView.resolveUri(ImageView.java:501) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.ImageView.onMeasure(ImageView.java:577) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.measure(View.java:7964) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.Gallery.setUpChild(Gallery.java:786) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.Gallery.makeAndAddView(Gallery.java:738) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.Gallery.fillToGalleryRight(Gallery.java:697) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.Gallery.layout(Gallery.java:628) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.Gallery.onLayout(Gallery.java:336) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.LinearLayout.setChildFrame(LinearLayout.java:1119) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.LinearLayout.layoutVertical(LinearLayout.java:998) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.LinearLayout.onLayout(LinearLayout.java:918) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.FrameLayout.onLayout(FrameLayout.java:333) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.FrameLayout.onLayout(FrameLayout.java:333) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.FrameLayout.onLayout(FrameLayout.java:333) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.LinearLayout.setChildFrame(LinearLayout.java:1119) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.LinearLayout.layoutVertical(LinearLayout.java:998) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.LinearLayout.onLayout(LinearLayout.java:918) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.FrameLayout.onLayout(FrameLayout.java:333) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.FrameLayout.onLayout(FrameLayout.java:333) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.widget.FrameLayout.onLayout(FrameLayout.java:333) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.View.layout(View.java:6830) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.ViewRoot.performTraversals(ViewRoot.java:996) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.view.ViewRoot.handleMessage(ViewRoot.java:1633) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:99) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:4363) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:521) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:860) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:618) E/AndroidRuntime(15277): at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method) - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
Re: [android-developers] Using WebView with local data
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/9/10 14:11 , Fabrizio Giudici wrote: I'm using WebView to render a simple HTML document that I've loaded in memory from a file. The document contains non-latin characters, and I can say they are correctly loaded since if I put it into a regular TextView, all the text is properly rendered. Now, I suppose that since I've already loaded the text in memory, I have to specify the unicode-16 enconding, right? webView.loadData(myText, text/html, unicode-16); But I have problems with non-latin characters. Note that I've URI-encoded the four special characters as described in the javadoc of WebView. Anybody here? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkySczMACgkQeDweFqgUGxe/yACfbunEDP8khqWOiLXGGMhqoGUB FF0An0LtOz7PxK4DckU4Xyr5lwLocqUT =JXRv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Using WebView with local data
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/16/10 21:58 , Kostya Vasilyev wrote: Fabrizio, Since your data is already in a Java string, are you sure you need to specify an encoding? I'd be sure that I _don't_ need an encoding, but the method wants a third parameter: data A String of data in the given encoding. The date must be URI-escaped -- '#', '%', '\', '?' should be replaced by %23, %25, %27, %3f respectively. mimeType The MIMEType of the data. i.e. text/html, image/jpeg encoding The encoding of the data. i.e. utf-8, base64 I must say I don't understand this at all. What does mean a String of data in the given encoding?. A String is Unicode 16, how can it have an encoding? Ok for base64 - it's a string representing binary contents, but how a String un utf-8 would look like? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkySofsACgkQeDweFqgUGxdy3gCgnTJGCjcKPykpMIqC4gVOA/vq dRsAmgM01i/fzFAs4uulOi8p8XxzUGmD =dDCU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Fine-tuning the WebView
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/14/10 07:24 , Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) wrote: The webview renders like a browser so if you pass it html formatted with css, it will display that way. I suppose you're passing html directly to webview instead of using a file. I haven't tried this myself but I'm guessing if you passed a reference to a file for css it would be used as expected. Try it and see. You can easily store it in your assets folder. At the moment I'm passing it directly, not through a file. But since I have some problems with non latin characters (described in a previous post here), and I also have to manually URLencode a few characters as per documentation, I'm considering writing the contents to a temporary file and passing it to the WebView... - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyPKOoACgkQeDweFqgUGxfn0wCgq9egYcGSAovxioIIGpQvjGyt Mq0An3WNz7R9zmTsr4dJaTh933aOTau8 =fg/O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Problem in SimpleDateFormat MMM return month number
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/13/10 00:32 , Mathieu - gpmoo7 wrote: Hope it helps someone else. 12% are still using Android 1.5 ;( I can confirm that there's a locale problem on some gear with 1.5. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyPKVIACgkQeDweFqgUGxfesACgiiK17W9UqZVVzwsSySc2iL11 1xYAnidP9OPhT0krt14DOc8ZCLSxvSAZ =yJRa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Clarification about ImageView.setImageURI()
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using ImageView.setImageURI() to render an image that has been previously downloaded from the Internet. It works fine, but I haven't understood whether the call is blocking or not. In my code, I've implemented a background thread to download the bits, in the meantime a placeholder is rendered, and as soon as a download is complete, setImageURI() is called. This approach is used both for a Gallery with thumbnails and for a single, large rendered with ImageView. The thing is working, but I see that the application freezes for a while when a download has been completed and setImageURI() is called. Which make me wonders whether I'm using it properly. For the record, I know that the images I'm downloading are larger than I need (at least initially); that is, they are much larger than the thumbnail and the large viewer. Since images, once downloaded, are stored locally forever, I should probably create some smaller-size previews in background and then pass them to Gallery and ImageView? Would that make the UI really more responsive? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyPZGIACgkQeDweFqgUGxcifwCffncxl6Wdgns5BuM/tZwWx4h6 BOUAn2Lv9SYXQYAywyn796dR2jilRvgx =Ml7X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/14/10 21:04 , TreKing wrote: I actually got a response: Thanks for writing in. We are currently investigating this issue. So far, this appears to be purely a reporting issue: some update events are being inaccurately recorded as uninstalls, rather than updates, creating a lower active installs percentage. However, our investigation tells us that applications are not actually being uninstalled. We hope to have a resolution soon. Which explains why it happened after updating. I guess we just sit tight now and wait for a fix. Also good to know there's some semblance of support for the Market issues. Maybe I won't be so harsh on them from now on =D Great. Let's sit and wait. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyPzBYACgkQeDweFqgUGxcP3wCgpYiBzp96N1qkXiCmdH+auliw 2MQAn01xZw1Xn1nbuYghVybztQKhTV/p =cEPZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Handling large screens, such as tablets - still doesn't make sense to me
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In any case, I think that this is only part of the problem and in most cases it's not a Google problem, but our own problem. If in your case it makes sense to just grow the drummer up, in my case I have some fact sheets, related to the same item, that are shown one per screen with a tab widget. If I think of an iPad-sized tabled, it doesn't make sense to just scale up the font sizes etc... It would make more sense to group together some fact sheets so the user can see many fact sheets at the same glance. For the Galaxy pad size, I don't know since it's mid-way. In any case, I think that for many apps it will make sense to provide alternate layouts for large screens. I think it's also difficult to say in advance which the better solution is: I can't figure out how a pad could be used by only having the emulator. I need to grab a real device and play as a real user, and then find out which is the best way to use my app with it. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyPzYcACgkQeDweFqgUGxdZpgCfWUDEqEZ3vaPPBaedJwygrgSL 8lwAn2ETUcChxwsjlyapYFUZvJfoc69K =u6Vm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/14/10 21:21 , Pent wrote: Thanks for reporting back. Which explains why it happened after updating. I guess we just sit tight now and wait for a fix. If that turns out to be it, I'm kindof horrified how many people are running old versions of my app! ... we can only hope that after giving us the segmented data for stars (I'm not saying pretty useless, but almost useless, since the average value is enough), Google will soon give us the segmented data for the installed versions... I also have the feeling that many people don't update frequently and that it's a good idea to add a specific feature in the app that e.g. reads the info from a RSS feed and pops up an invitation to upgrade when a new version is published. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyP7soACgkQeDweFqgUGxeh8ACglN9H/O44JgbJfAtRlcLemWps Wm4An3F54j+GHZqHyXKbPkD2aN0e3xnt =1oKd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/13/10 15:04 , TreKing wrote: On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it mailto:fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: So, can you tell us which part of Google we should talk to in order to get some answer to the problem? Here's another option. Everyone with this issue should try this one: http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/request.py?contact_type=publisher Ok, for the record I posted: Hello. After a few months of steady active install ratio, the number dropped significantly in August, with no evident reasons; in fact, comments and stars placed on the market by users have been good as usual. While I can't exclude that the drop in the active install rate is physiologic and real, having seen that many people experienced the same phenomenon in the same time slot I'd really like to be sure that there weren't bugs in the computation of the active installs ratio. Thanks. I'll let you know what will be the answer. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyOdWcACgkQeDweFqgUGxfxpgCdEMj0jczwSM2KacdRroCbA5h0 yDwAni4M2RbgIVhjg3/x0EsJA+HxozMk =pLYO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/13/10 20:11 , Zsolt Vasvari wrote: My app, one day last week dropped 3%, which is almost impossible. I have a 4.87 with 70 ratings... For me, it seems now stable at 31/32%. Active installs are now increasing again. A few positive reviews and even a new 5-stars. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyOpq4ACgkQeDweFqgUGxeGGwCbBVfdR9p/eugCnJ7EjnuedmFX 84oAnRi9QyiZ21Zz1LjFkWuFnUXoKS6/ =g5NS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Fine-tuning the WebView
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using WebView for rendering some moderately complex texts. It works nicely for what I need. The only things that I still need to do is some tuning in the way texts are rendered; in particular, the font family and size and the padding (it seems that the component automatically puts 6-8dips of padding even though I've specified 0; so it doesn't get aligned with other components in the same view. I suppose the best way is by means of a CSS, right? Is it possible to put an external reference to an existing file, or does the CSS need to be embedded in the document? I'd like to see some examples. Thanks. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyOqE8ACgkQeDweFqgUGxfJDACcD4ZW2vVHvx9dV9NK8oh8Y14P Bx8An1us0CPkogUbDGQT96PgV+h8KhAr =bd5G -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/10/10 23:57 , tdieckman wrote: Second, I have a paid license key for my app on the market. I've been keeping records daily to watch trends (why can't the console do this for us)? Anyway, my total sales figure right now is 584 paid downloads, while my active downloads of that paid app is only 452 as of two days ago. If I add the number of cancelled purchases (71) to my paid purchases (584), I end up with 655 which is more than the 639 that the console shows. I know that the console doesn't update as frequently, I've gotten about 10 downloads per day over the last few days, so that would mean the console is off by more than a day. Well, thanks - your check against paid downloads is one of the most interesting pieces of information in this thread and sounds a solid proof that, at least in some cases, the number are buggy. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyLteQACgkQeDweFqgUGxfxHACfb4ZgBVtOWb8Qq6dcHOcu8CsK tK4AmgMCqbYGqHiKSB30XNjxaNIA8qc2 =pcKj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: somebody stole our app and resell it on the market.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/10/10 01:54 , William Ferguson wrote: OK, firstly deploying your app without obfuscating the code was a mistake. But now that its happened why do you think someone who is selling a paid version of your app and who will have a hard time maintaining the code (decompiling doesn't give you a nice base to work from) is going to be able to compete with a free up to date version from you? Secondly 1) I don't find Java particularly slow. But you can expect that its performance on a device will improve as more devices can access to JIT. 2) Eclipse is OK, but you don't have to use it. I don't, I prefer IntelliJ. Yes it costs, but not much. There's also the NetBeans option. 3) Yes, the emulator is slow to start up, but after that its fine. So don't close it between each iteration. I don't. Indeed, the very fact that with Android one has got all these options, while with iPhone doesn't (and you *have* to buy a mac) makes the comparison pretty useless to me (in favour of Android). Of course, this is partly subjective. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyJ1xcACgkQeDweFqgUGxfQ9QCgkGbSBEJRkdZVMYsvXeLIj757 UVMAn06hG/DA6k73PwV46b7VWBS7/Uwu =Yt48 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Possible (and not possible) customization of the Tab component
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. I've got an Activity with a Tab component, whose layout is shown below. I need to do some customizations and I'd like to know what it's possible to do and what not - in the latter case, I'll consider dropping the Tab component and emulating it with some buttons. 1. Between the tvTaxon TextView and whatever is rendered in the FrameLayout a solid 1px divider with a drop shadow below is rendered. I'd like to get rid of that. I suppose that this drawable has been designed for separating the TabWidget from the contents below, but as you can see in my case I have an extra component (tvTaxon) between the two. If it's not possible to get rid of the divider, I could consider removing tvTaxon and replicating it in every Activity that is put into the FrameLayout. 2. I'd like not to render the text in the buttons of the TabHost, only the icon. Is it possible? 3. When moving to landscape mode, an horizontal TabHost is really a waste of space. I'd like to specify an alternate layout for landscape mode and have the TabHost vertically rendered at the left edge. Is it possible? Thanks. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? TabHost xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android; android:id=@android:id/tabhost android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=fill_parent LinearLayout android:orientation=vertical android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=fill_parent TabWidget android:id=@android:id/tabs android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=wrap_content / TextView android:id=@+id/tvTaxon style=@style/TextAppearance.Large android:paddingLeft=4dip android:paddingRight=4dip android:paddingBottom=10dip android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=wrap_content / FrameLayout android:id=@android:id/tabcontent android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=fill_parent / /LinearLayout /TabHost - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyIq8AACgkQeDweFqgUGxeJugCfVpWX2IuoGvDwD3pra4A4X9+m JKgAnAlrebDGlmmEJ7NxR/fZ/UXDTFJE =DeYb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Using WebView with local data
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using WebView to render a simple HTML document that I've loaded in memory from a file. The document contains non-latin characters, and I can say they are correctly loaded since if I put it into a regular TextView, all the text is properly rendered. Now, I suppose that since I've already loaded the text in memory, I have to specify the unicode-16 enconding, right? webView.loadData(myText, text/html, unicode-16); But I have problems with non-latin characters. Note that I've URI-encoded the four special characters as described in the javadoc of WebView. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyIztsACgkQeDweFqgUGxcGOgCgrqL3EecxM/dA/7JkGsy38DY+ 1n8AoJDOovzvGegV4CTnxy7tAnVGZfYl =9sWs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How to make screen shoots with an android device?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/9/10 16:20 , Lidia G wrote: Thank you Have a look at this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/robotium-developers/browse_thread/thread/c5cf28ef88918d7d/38a80fd483c114df?hl=enlnk=gstq=Need+help+to+take+screen+shot#38a80fd483c114df - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyI/DUACgkQeDweFqgUGxc3fwCeKYHbPO3l7clkKwzF64XT0AOz ldsAn0s9XYs0VGptQ6og30scPUv4bWUi =+rLV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: List of Android Devices with specifications to use in Emulator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/8/10 07:49 , Marcus Wolschon wrote: Thanks. That should be quite useful. There's a more efficient way to gather these data. For instance, look at http://droidparade.noser.com/droidparade/droidparade.html They're collecting the data from people willing to run their diagnostic app. It's a very good approach since there's no manual copy of data and thus no errors, and they're collecting a large number of attributes for each model. You have to click on a model to have the details and data aren't ready to consume as in a spreadsheet, but it would not be difficult to write a small HTML scraper to automatically extract the data. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyHQ98ACgkQeDweFqgUGxcGrQCfYUPgqlrLsusvwPB9mDP2FAII trsAn3AfGHdR7brZ5/o7nRULVGDp5pqd =vbdq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Recommendation for an Application with tons of media files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/6/10 18:50 , Frank Weiss wrote: I was thinking in using the sd card storage. That's a good idea. But, I don't want the user to accidentally remove the media files. I want it to be private, not accesible to possible deletions. How might a user accidently remove them? Why is this a concern? Definitely a 160MB apk is not a good idea. Go for the sdcard, and add just a consistency check for all the stuff, if you're worried about deletions. Keep in mind that most users won't use a file manager and thus it's not probable that they mess around with your data. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyFKoQACgkQeDweFqgUGxcyKwCgie6CTEeIY77K9kkWMaMYXROh 3LwAnRQG4IneGWRStazk9Jtsykv1P+rS =hk3x -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Lost my keystore, loads of Apps, what to do?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/3/10 18:02 , Michael MacDonald wrote: You have to back up the keystore offsite. That can be as simple as e-mailing it to yourself as an attachment on a gmail account. Not that it makes much sense to send by email a private key, even though it's encrypted by a password. Back it up, but keep the store private, such as an USB key or a CDROM. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyBJjYACgkQeDweFqgUGxcJ2gCgnGsxXwKaMEoQslznOXCbiSJJ Ma4An3PEupzah7X7Diiqu4FlnbyoMmh/ =6Gu4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/4/10 09:37 , Dianne Hackborn wrote: Yet another less for me to keep the heck away from these threads. :p So, can you tell us which part of Google we should talk to in order to get some answer to the problem? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyCKnQACgkQeDweFqgUGxcXnACgox4Zf6TxmWbOfDuPu3vjwybB Tb8AoKgGL/q+xxxK/2/Qlo9OFt0Ewbtv =R5ZL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/3/10 21:03 , Brad Gies wrote: This is just a question that I have been wondering about related to this. When I published one of my apps many months ago, I selected All Locations. However, I only have data in my app for Canada, and the US., and it is English only. The app would be handy for any English speaker that is planning on visiting Canada/US but for the most part, it's really only handy if you live here. I expected about 50% of users that download my app would uninstall it because they don't live in North America, and wouldn't get much use out of it. But, now my installed percentage is only 38%... it was 48% only a few weeks ago.. then it also started dropping. The question is: Has anyone experimented to find out whether your installed percentage climbs if you only publish to those locations that would get the most use out of your app? And a followup question :). In your opinion, is it worth changing the Locations now? FYI.. I just did it, so I might be able to answer this in a month or so :). I could have a similar problem (I have bird lists that are localized for large areas, let's say continents). As far as I can tell, the bulk of the initial downloads were from UK (and initially I supported a bird list for Europe). People from USA started asking for supporting North America, and at a certain point I released this new feature. In spite of a clear tip placed on the home activity, I've gotten a few feedback from US people not understanding that they have what they need... But this doesn't explain why there are no more active users from the UK/Europe in general. FYI, my number is still going down (32% from 45%) and the absolute figure is about 20 units down from a couple of weeks ago. BTW, I find it very disturbing that nobody from Google has confirmed that there are no ongoing known bugs with the Market, as I and others have asked about in this thread. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyBXSEACgkQeDweFqgUGxcZ6gCdGji29XFDLKd4PoKIZco5i4k/ UYAAn02s38VaAOne9J25iMLoly23yTOM =i2Nz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 00:00 , Doug wrote: Here's a scary thought. What if, during development, every time you installed and uninstalled your app on your phone, Android phones home with an uninstall. Maybe that's a new feature of Froyo. Please, someone prove this wrong on this. :-) I've thought about that (with the exception that the new feature could be just due to an update on the Market - my own development phone is still running 2.1). This doesn't explain the facts, in my case. My active install ratio is still dropping :-( I got to 33%, down to 45/46% of two weeks ago, and I only disinstalled from my phone 3/4 times. I'd really like to have the feedback from Google engineering that there are no possible bugs in the market. Sure there are chances new users are not understanding something (my app provides features per geographic area, recently I've advertised the extension to North America, and users might not been able to spot it - in spite of a tip message on the home screen). But even one comment market that would suggest me this is in form of please add support... and means that the user didn't uninstall the application. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx8s0EACgkQeDweFqgUGxe99wCfSIumtqh7py5ENGXu20Ea8XZv 9K8AoI8ylhKu6zXio1K8JtMev9M+GA3h =fYdn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Strange instance of app not responding error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. A customer just notified me that she's experiencing the infamous app not responding / wait, force close message during a specific operation. By just waiting enough, the app resumes ok. Now, that specific operation is indeed long and in fact it has been programmed in a background thread, with a progress dialog signaling the wait. I can't reproduce the problem on my development phone - I suppose because it's perhaps faster than the phone of the user. But I can't reproduce the problem either with the emulator, which I suppose is slow enough. Generally speaking, I think I could be able to solve this specific problem with the customer giving me the proper feedback. It's the general issue that hassles me. This part of the application is very good covered by tests at different levels, including automated black-box tests with Robotium that drive the UI as the user would do, and even in stress mode (repeating the test multiple times). So I supposed to be very safe in that area and I'm disappointed to discover that it was a false sense of safety. What am I possibly missing? Also, is it possible / does make sense to slow down a phone during tests? I was thinking of a service running in background just consuming some CPU cycles to make the phone less responsive. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAkx8uUcACgkQeDweFqgUGxeL7gCVGEE8EYiE2J0t9vnS48LVYOrd hwCfZW1TN7TFM8CbYTIZR36pDU6TcSE= =X0L9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 10:04 , Simon Platten wrote: As google take a percentage of every sale surely its in there interest to get this right? In the past there have been bugs related to some apps not being visible on the Market (see Tim Bray's blog). I suppose that also in that case Google interest was to have the apps visible :-) Bugs happen, of course. As a side note, how are you guys tracking the daily history of stats? I suppose there's no automated way, right? So we have to set up a spreadsheet and daily copy the data, right? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx8uk8ACgkQeDweFqgUGxfiJwCfa5OOzkMs7s52eHiSUy3gZoeH WaoAn0tkeTh4vfAIFj415tCsrytiVP7P =Qli+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Strange instance of app not responding error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 10:22 , Mark Murphy wrote: The two most variable performance things I can think of in Android are network I/O operations and flash writes. The former is fairly obvious, and we've been recommending network I/O be done in an AsyncTask, IntentService, or background thread for some time. Thanks for pointing out those things. Is it also reading from flash slow? The long operation I'm talking of is reading a bunch of data from the flash to RAM (no network, no writes). - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx8vlwACgkQeDweFqgUGxdgsgCgpm18MvBnIM8CGOBQ2KFGeoes IGUAmwY1vqxep5oyyO3EjaCcuHt9rXVh =kqG7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Ratings breakdown in Dev Console
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 14:34 , OldSkoolMark wrote: ... and nice to see evidence of Google working on Market improvements. Yes. Perhaps in four / five years we'll get segmented data about phones and countries of users... :-/ - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx9EckACgkQeDweFqgUGxfVZgCfXr9Hi3Xd65wGc7Ui0gBB/miA ag4AoLKJr0iQX2iHBZRem3q2STnufVuz =T21U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/28/10 22:30 , cyxb wrote: My favorite one-star Market comment: Rate one star if you want the full version to be free!. Or another 1 star classic: Make the full version free cuz my mom won't let me buy it People are like lemmings. A comment like that will cause an avalanche of similar comments. Likewise, a great comment may also trigger other people to post nice comments. I suppose it all evens out in the end, or at least that's what I tell myself. I suppose in the end this kind of social Market features (starts and comments) are just useless. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx6IqgACgkQeDweFqgUGxdhtgCfTk1jurc403AH7jBCKHjrvrWo LGUAoKo5nMIyMBS5sariDvOPgo8wU5OC =yUPX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/29/10 12:41 , Anil wrote: I have a suggestion. Make short 1 minute video clips of people using your app and saying why they like it - post these on youtube. Then have a web page with links to these and also text comments from Market. Try to find balanced comments - all excessively sweet will make people mistrust your effort. To summarize, from the existing crop of comments on Market, find the most useful balanced comments, create your own video clip comments, and in your app description persuade people to go there. Generalizing: don't expect that the Android Market can really help us to promote our apps. We need to do that by ourselves, with websites, youtube videos, what else. We need to attract people in other ways so when they get to the market they have already decided to download our apps, and won't pay much attention to others' comments. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx6eUEACgkQeDweFqgUGxf6ygCgjTipKcj1JC8sXv7s6jnES+v/ iDIAn2XT9W6I78sJvX0kqaZUJpIkTjhq =2oxv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Active Installs Dropping Like Crazy but Total Downloads Increasing Steadily!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/26/10 17:54 , Chris Stewart wrote: Yeah I can imagine. I think what you should focus on is that your downloads are _steadily_ rising. That's really what matters most and so if that continues and your position isn't being affected, negatively, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Hmmm... I disagree. We have discussed that there could be non-worrying reasons for the phenomenon (*), but of course downloads increasing and active installations not increasing may be as well the warning of a problem. For instance, you're advertising your application in such a way that users are really excited about it, but the app doesn't match their expectations; or they are searching for some feature that is in the app, but they can't find it (for an usability design problem). I suppose that in this case, sooner or later you also get a negative review, tough. (*) Reading that so many of us seem to be experiencing the same thing at the same moment, I'm guessing whether it's a market bug... it would be nice to eventually have a feedback from the Google engineers confirming that on their side everything is fine. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAkx3cCsACgkQeDweFqgUGxe0EgCgmBPrhYB8nVlh0E4ddQll9bbG kPYAmLnfJVe9kJR6zWpT5YsRP0iJPrs= =nR6O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Making sure that ... (not an ellipsis) is not wrapped
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In some cases I have messages, typically shown in a toast message, where there are three trailing periods. For instance, bla bla bla. Please wait Note that this is _not_ an elipsis, as the string is not truncated. The problem is that sometimes the string is wrapped at the end of line and I get two periods in the first line, a newline, and then a single orphaned period in the next line. I'd like to have the ... not broken by any means. How can this be done in a reliable way? E.g. is there any Unicode single char guaranteed to be available in all Android appliances that gets rendered as three periods? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx4EgkACgkQeDweFqgUGxcVxQCgppQtp3Owqa9vaYKw2ivAOaZH o2sAoJLb4+dLbSlosvFoi3weL25i21Yc =00Kj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Using Bouncy Castle with an Android app
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/28/10 00:55 , fba wrote: Or, could I get around this by making sure that I am using the same version that is included in the OS? (Or, in a nutshell, is the ClassCastException likely to be a problem because the parameters defined for the same method names don't match?) I don't fully understand what's happening to you because more details are needed, and generally speaking I think that Android would prevent you from embedding in your app classes which are already present in the runtime, but your problem seems to definitely fall within this area. One possible solution (but it's about the symptom, not necessarily the real cause and thus not necessarily the best solution) is to use a static bytecode manipulator that renames packages in a jar. I use Maven and there is the maven-shade-plugin, but I'm sure similar tools exist for Ant. The basic idea is that if you have L.jar containing com.acme.MyClass and A.jar referring to it, with the tool you can directly feed in L.jar and A.jar and achieve L2.jar and A2.jar where both the original class and its references have been replaced by something such as foo.bar.com.acme.MyClass. This works for me (not for BouncyCastle but for other stuff). With this trick, your source files stay as they are, but the binary code gets fixed before being converted to dex. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx4SjMACgkQeDweFqgUGxfolwCfeStWh31mcmgzcRdjkcbCNA+Y qOsAn0Twzw2rUyRDwSh5hT2UKyUD/dzK =zjwJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Negative comment causing drop in sales
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/26/10 14:45 , TreKing wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:28 AM, abowman abow...@gmail.com mailto:abow...@gmail.com wrote: What can I do about this? With the current system, not much. Is there anyway to respond to this false comment besides editing the description of my app? Post your own comment directly after explaining that this is wrong and / or have some friends do the same. Alternatively, and this is more work, update your app to show a huge dialog that states the comment is wrong and why. Is there anyway to get the comment removed, since there is nothing wrong with the app? Nope. You can try marking the comment as Unhelpful (Version 2.2), or as Spam, but I doubt either of those does much of anything, if anything at all. If you have some registered users, or anyway you are in touch with them, you might ask them to post a positive review. Even though people can't distinguish your friends from your customers, having the latter ones to post sounds as a better move. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx2ZzEACgkQeDweFqgUGxeTTwCfeBxJNBOqagsNXcNdQ5cuGPob dM0AoJzgESjzanYTZFuqm8we3Jm7CQD4 =AVbT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Android Emulator vs iPhone emulator (Why does it take so long)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/10 21:14 , Vedran Rodic wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Frank Weiss fewe...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be a bit cheeky, why use the Android emulator at all? You know it doesn't cost $99/year to to run your Android apps on a device. I'm worried about flash memory in my phone wearing down, + I mostly find it more convenient to have results on the same screen, on a device I don't have to hold in my hands. I understand this, but you're taking high risks if you don't test on real devices, since there are many things that can fail on a real device and don't on the emulator. FYI, for several weeks at my beginning of the development I believed that my app was fine with Android 1.5, because it ran fine in the emulator, while it was regularly crashing on 1.5 devices (nothing special depending on hardware, such as GPS: it was just an icon resource placed in an improper way). This also caused my ratings to start with a wonderful 1 star - it crashes on my phone that isn't precisely the best way to present yourself to the world. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAkx2abUACgkQeDweFqgUGxdQIwCgpN9MfaTSM8m1GTXg0hFPNw0i vLgAlAokSatM3W1vLMNQtTLDiKDJ1UM= =L20j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Is anyone's active install % dropping like a rock lately?
I've spotted this thread only now. It's happening to me too - in a week it dropped from a _steady_ 45% (held since several weeks) to 36%, with a single new active install out of regularly increasing new downloads. I even posted that on my blog - a commenter pointed out that when people upgrade an app the download counter might increase, while the active install doesn't (actually, I've released two updates in this month). Can you confirm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Cannot use the sdcard while connected by means of USB - problems testing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/20/10 17:07 , Kostya Vasilyev wrote: Fabrizio, You can try changing USB connection mode to Portal Tools. I've posted screenshots here: http://kmansoft.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/enabling-adb-on-the-motorola-milestone/ - -- Kostya Thanks Kostya, I've already tried that, but if I select Portal Tools I don't see my device from adb (and USB debug connection disappears from the notification area, confirming that the link has been disconnected). - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxvsf8ACgkQeDweFqgUGxdtgQCfWJCBOiv2ISralynd2Ek0iZt6 6cwAn1GU5/q5xVwQqy4Rt0jb571+vApn =/8VN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Cannot use the sdcard while connected by means of USB - problems testing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I connect my Droid to the USB port, its sdcard gets mounted to my laptop (Mac OS X). While this is occasionally useful, the sdcard becomes unusable from the apps - which causes me troubles when I try to test features that use the sdcard. Detaching the USB works, of course, but I want to keep it attached in order to keep adb shell and adb logcat running. Unmounting unilaterally the sdcard from the laptop doesn't work - I see a notification on the phone that the sdcard is again available only when I detach the USB. Thanks. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxulHsACgkQeDweFqgUGxfXlgCfZFUoDbA8JBcY5JrLpGTAlapJ 4kcAn0dn5BFbEg5MXB8cU2xf+0YqpSXH =RFmU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Optimizing image processing algorithms for Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/19/10 13:35 , Amit wrote: Now, I know that native code will *not* yield any significant performance improvement over Java code Well, specifically for image processing this won't be true, for sure up to 2.1 included (as the bytecode is purely interpreted); in 2.2 we have JIT, but can't speak as I haven't seen it yet. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtHakACgkQeDweFqgUGxe83wCfSDP1NEN+TLD0iOCZ/zSvQDRw I5cAoJOEoC7eREU5KuPU7m93/GDj9VUr =2ZDf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Optimizing image processing algorithms for Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/19/10 14:33 , Amit wrote: Well yes, I only meant that just the fact of using native code (over Java) won't be very effective. At least that is the impression I have (which may be wrong). Considering the fact that even native code ultimately runs inside the Dalvik VM instance, performance gains from use of native code would be modest, right? Things are a bit different. As far as I understand, applications in general only run inside the Dalvik VM - which means that e.g. activities, boot code etc... is bytecode. In other words, a 100% native app can't exist in Android. But the NDK allows you to create portions of native code that are called by the app. That is, a flow of operations is always started by the VM, but your native code gets executed directly on the processor. This is more or less the same that happens with JNI in the regular Java JDK. Given that, before moving to native code I'd wait for others to share with you their experience specifically with image processing. PS It's a shame that Google dropped some imaging back-end classes from Harmony, as there are a number of powerful and complete imaging libraries in Java such as JAI. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtKYAACgkQeDweFqgUGxdg6wCgpJM/beTx9U0thsO30tjNh0Mp lOUAnRRBs/XxM9PutV+7KOh7CoLGehE8 =bXS+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Rendering problems with an Activity having android:screenOrientation=landscape
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I have a regular list with a list of names. When I pick one name, I need to show it on the screen with the largest font size (they are supposed to be made available for reading by the phone owner to other people). On this purpose, I activate a new Activity that declares android:screenOrientation=landscape so it can take advantage of the wider screen available. The Activity has also the FullScreen style. It works, but for a couple of rendering details. First, the slide in screen effect that I've configured on my Droid doesn't work - the activity is rendered without any effect. Second, for a glimpse there are foreign contents on the screen (they are parts of the last notification screen that I opened). I presume it's a problem of the frame buffer off-screen contents being not properly managed. If the problem is not clear, I can later post a link to a short video. If I start with the regular list already in landscape mode (because I rotated the phone) everything works fine. The problem seems to be transitioning from an activity in portrait mode directly to an activity in landscape mode. I guess I've hit a known bug... I was thinking of trying the following thing: 1. Drop the android:screenOrientation=landscape setting in the AndroidManifest.xml 2. Keep the widgets on the Activity initially not visible, so a blank activity slides in. 3. After a short delay, programmatically switching to landscape mode and set the widgets visible 4. When quitting the activity, run the reverse steps (setting the widgets to not visible, programmatically switching to portrait mode, waiting for a short delay, finishing). Thoughts? Better workarounds? Thanks. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtR6wACgkQeDweFqgUGxcFbwCfTiiS0KpTECkLB5ZOuypNGSRe rDwAn3PSPJE0+EhBLDoKhDa4qvCGXgiD =YQq2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Changing default location of R.java
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/18/10 22:34 , Fabrizio Giudici wrote: On 8/18/10 12:19 , Roj wrote: Hi, Is there any way to change the default location of R.java file which is getting created in gen folder? By default R.Java will get created in gen folder under the package (of the application) directory. I have a common code (with UI) which has to go with different applications with different package names/branding. When ever I change the package name in manifest file, R.java will created inside that package so I have to change the import statement in all the files with the new location of R. How I can avoid it? Also is there is any provision to have two or more R files in one application? There are at least two ways to deal with that - I'm enumerating them and also taking the chance of asking to the list if there are some relevant consequences in choosing one or the other. 1. You can trick your build system with two AndroidManifest.xml files. The former has e.g. com.acme.app as the package and thus com.acme.app.R is generated. Just before you run the packager you replace/tweak it by changing the package name. This is relatively simple to do with Maven and is described here: http://groups.google.com/group/maven-android-developers/browse_thread/thread/56b2449756fd4a40?fwc=1pli=1 - - I suppose you can do the same with ant. 2. aapt has got the --rename-manifest-package option that seems to do the trick as well. Well, after experimenting I've found that #2 is the way to go, at least if you have explicit intents. In fact, if the code packages for activities stays the same, Android will pop up a question box when an explicit intent is activated, asking to choose one of the two apps. This means that the two apps are not well separated. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtTxkACgkQeDweFqgUGxc03QCfbxSLPDG8DQBm0/wYMceYU1+j t64AnR9cPdpAB6nIUdpkFauIMkPqp/qc =fCna -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Changing default location of R.java
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/19/10 17:34 , Fabrizio Giudici wrote: Well, after experimenting I've found that #2 is the way to go, at least if you have explicit intents. In fact, if the code packages for activities stays the same, Android will pop up a question box when an explicit intent is activated, asking to choose one of the two apps. This means that the two apps are not well separated. Never mind my previous post. The problem are *implicit* intents, not explicit ones. If you don't have implicit intents, #1 strategy should be fine. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtWEsACgkQeDweFqgUGxfooQCdGLl1Y+x3ZFnXzmauQQsRpXnK u9QAoLPccyPsGv35zTOSqXEjwqqiTQH9 =ir8f -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Getting critical feedback on your application
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/19/10 18:24 , Frank Weiss wrote: I wanted to add that if you really want to keep your customers satisfied, a complaint is a gift. The problem in this case is finding the sincere complaints. ... and detailed complaints. Because sometimes you don't understand what's wrong. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtXdkACgkQeDweFqgUGxchTwCdHghBSCUplWaALwtW5AuU9+nH 74kAnjxmTwpS+pmnsHdfev96wE84J+qt =rLLb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Explicit intent in custom Preferences screen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I'm currently using this in preferences.xml: PreferenceCategory android:title=@string/preferences_taxonomy PreferenceScreen android:title=@string/preferences_taxonomy_title android:summary=@string/preferences_taxonomy_summary intent android:action=it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android.snapshot.action.PICK_TAXONOMY / /PreferenceScreen /PreferenceCategory This allows to trigger a custom Activity when this specific preferences item is triggered. Copying from the documentation, I'm using an implicit intent, and it's working. But I'd solve a problem if I could use an explicit intent, that is writing the fully qualified class name of the target Activity. I didn't find documentation about this, so I don't know whether it's possible and how to do that. Thanks. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtjscACgkQeDweFqgUGxesbwCfTvDkzWefaBjWv0PDm0G/LvDF HJYAn3USABw1KIX1UtpnOHnpwuC+vFJO =uKkV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Getting critical feedback on your application
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/19/10 18:12 , TreKing wrote: I also respond to user comments in the app itself. Not much more you can do. BTW, does this mean that you reply to the comments in the Market? I'm only aware that I can post a single comment after giving some stars - are there other ways? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxtpMoACgkQeDweFqgUGxd2jgCeO1awq36tTvOLQlaoqy8hW0ey nuUAnRfS89yRDRZcf9BTHSDb1M+jZfxo =Zgfl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Need confirmation: it is impossible to programmatically set the default locale in a device, right?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/18/10 00:55 , DanH wrote: You can in theory do java.util.Locale.setDefault within your application, to change the apps Locale from whatever the machine default is. Whether/how it works on Android is hard to say. Tried and for what I've seen it's has problems. For what I've seen it doesn't change the locale in parts handled by Android (e.g. selection of xml resources), so even though it would be picked by my code (where I use Locale.getDefault()) you'd end up with a mix of two Locales, which doesn't make any sense. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxrk/YACgkQeDweFqgUGxcgvwCffx7MRC8c+u967Ks2UG7s5n0M j+0An1k4Efw7z6kECk1dNRJhhQs6PhDg =5YCz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How to test Apps on a variety of devices?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/18/10 16:37 , Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) wrote: I have found the emulator to be useful for testing the screen sizes but little else. The emulator is fine for basic functionality tests but it is woefully inadequate for determining if an app will run without crashing on any particular device. ... I second John's words. The emulator is just a gross filter for trivial problems. In addition to his advices, I'd suggest to check out the local Java User Group (JUG) to seek for help. There's usually a number of JUG members who own an Android phone and I've been helped in a few cases thanks to this channel. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxr8fcACgkQeDweFqgUGxcy0QCgtJ0jomeuYBBNLePWJ2wvhgrN b1gAn1fMv7iwpkHuIdjL2+JJKDYdAhR8 =lXpn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Pros/cons of multiple activities in an app vs. one activity, multiple views
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's partly subjective, of course. Another advantage of multiple activities is the inter-app integration, or expandability. For instance, splitting into activities and using implicit intents, you are effectively creating public integration points for your application, that could be used by other applications. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxsFXIACgkQeDweFqgUGxccCgCgg7vB68PYmjQ3uE7LyodxMnQX Z4UAn3ootEvqGQdDafBFhTJEskEal59r =Hwc1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Changing default location of R.java
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/18/10 12:19 , Roj wrote: Hi, Is there any way to change the default location of R.java file which is getting created in gen folder? By default R.Java will get created in gen folder under the package (of the application) directory. I have a common code (with UI) which has to go with different applications with different package names/branding. When ever I change the package name in manifest file, R.java will created inside that package so I have to change the import statement in all the files with the new location of R. How I can avoid it? Also is there is any provision to have two or more R files in one application? There are at least two ways to deal with that - I'm enumerating them and also taking the chance of asking to the list if there are some relevant consequences in choosing one or the other. 1. You can trick your build system with two AndroidManifest.xml files. The former has e.g. com.acme.app as the package and thus com.acme.app.R is generated. Just before you run the packager you replace/tweak it by changing the package name. This is relatively simple to do with Maven and is described here: http://groups.google.com/group/maven-android-developers/browse_thread/thread/56b2449756fd4a40?fwc=1pli=1 - - I suppose you can do the same with ant. 2. aapt has got the --rename-manifest-package option that seems to do the trick as well. I'm going to need this soon as I would keep separate package names for the official releases and the snapshot builds, so I can install both at the same time. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxsQ8QACgkQeDweFqgUGxcjHwCeNNL5zXn3AZGovnbzjDKr6B1A z4UAnRFJQi3GK2LrZdtd/dYh/9q/8VLx =7Wot -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Getting critical feedback on your application
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/18/10 17:55 , MapleWorks wrote: I was wondering how people manage to find the best feedback on the apps they create. We've developed an application as a test for the Android platform but the community reviews on various sites are not the most helpful. 'Bug with text but good everywhere else' isn't the most detailed description of what's wrong and there is no way to follow up with these anonymous reviewers. Do people look to forums to post their app and get feedback or other methods? I don't want to post our actual app here in case it is not allowed and I do not want this to come across as spam. Thank you for any help. Same frustration in my experience. I'm receiving very few meaningful comments related to bugs and most of them make me think that some user doesn't correctly figure out how to use the application (which is a usability bug, of course, but not having the possibility to contact them I can't know for sure). There's only a single bug that has been precisely reported. I've set up a Facebook page and a forum (not working yet, indeed), but they haven't been used yet - consider that I've almost 1000 downloads (+ 100 more in alternate markets). OTOH, I've gotten some extremely helpful feedback by 3/4 users that contacted me by email, making it possible for me to get back to them. I've planned to add a specific form in the app itself for reporting bugs, maybe they will be more willing to use it. Also I'm considering to embed in the app a simple poll that could be periodically used to explicitly ask for feedback (and eventually prioritize new features). Anyway I'd be happy to hear from others with more experience in this field. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxsRWQACgkQeDweFqgUGxcZUgCgjfngJ7k4JL1wTBVqWlJqEbu8 vI0AmwZnZql/GQpYyHa0MYG5yW8rY1LU =hdZH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Problem computing the free space on the external card - only with a single installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/18/10 22:37 , Kostya Vasilyev wrote: The code above multiplies two ints and casts them to long. If the intermediate result is over 2Gb, you'll get a negative number. Try multiplying long values instead: long byteCount = blockSize * (long) avlBlocks; A they are ints Hell. I think it can be definitely that. It is not reproduced on my Droid because it has 5.5Gb free that are reported as 1.5Gb. Indeed, it will report a negative number when the free space is between 2Gb and 4Gb, 6Gb and 8Gb, 10Gb and 12Gb, 14Gb and 18Gb etc... And my user has got 14Gb. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxsUqwACgkQeDweFqgUGxdJNQCaAwtrwoaj+WMUsL8ZqseowIiw UR0AnixwG7t0M6V9SVhVW/sydNMk0xEw =X1Pt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How to test Apps on a variety of devices?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/18/10 21:45 , nation-x wrote: You can test you applications on all Motorola devices by using their Device Anywhere service or whatever it's called... it costs money though. Yes. I know that service from the JME times, and probably is ok if you are running a commercial app. But if you're after a free one, it's too expensive as you said. BTW, they offer a good number of Android phones in addition to Motorola. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxsWKYACgkQeDweFqgUGxdOcgCfTd+Oi4WvX99+jhVWOQyTew1r pG4AnR18pPFAjE4wsmDnJfitrF5IYSbU =HSbT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/17/10 08:20 , nexbug wrote: Face it, This is just a ploy by msft and apl to distract android devs from writing code And make them spend all the time speculating and starting flame wars. So, as I said, we'd just keep on writing code and improve our apps! Right? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxqQAIACgkQeDweFqgUGxdrhQCggTw57DvV4M5bYDqibHP8NyyD uK0AnRLvHHX29U8t/LHJCHg1VLTUuWeq =tPeG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Need confirmation: it is impossible to programmatically set the default locale in a device, right?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I know that for testing with the emulator, the default locale can be changed by proper adb shell commands, as documented by the official docs. In the docs there's no mention about doing a similar thing in a real device. I assume that there's no other way to change the default locale than by manually using the Parameters app, right? Of course, I'm talking of testing. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxq/CYACgkQeDweFqgUGxdJRACZAcaTBdKJLIHabu5DGRaeiCVb 9/wAmwazX9dHxPPdGEVUKuxGvRxEIJHv =TNFg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Need confirmation: it is impossible to programmatically set the default locale in a device, right?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/17/10 23:52 , Frank Weiss wrote: I'd be surprised if you can't do per-app locale changes in Android. It would be ok for me to change the locale of the whole phone. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxrCiUACgkQeDweFqgUGxeJeACfbkFS907YmVctqXYnChoNbvR1 ckwAn2LLrh9hqTLclnq3WgUe+BKLEO49 =5OpG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/16/10 05:07 , DanH wrote: Having written 13 software patents, I'm well aware that many are very weak, or, if not weak, very narrow. But proving all that in a court of law is the trick -- the presumption is that the patent, having been cleared by the patent office, is valid. (I'd have several more patents if it weren't for the ones the PO rejected because of supposed prior art, even though the quoted prior art had no relation to the area of my applications.) Exactly. I don't think that Oracle made such an obvious mistake, even though the patents might be actually weak. They can anyway cause harm to Google with the trial thing. This only consolidates the idea that Oracle doesn't want to shut down Android, but come to a deal (maybe I'm wrong, but note that even though Oracle officially asked to withdraw and destroy Android, they didn't ask for a temporary suspension of Android activities until the trial is finished). If the deal is only money, it won't affect us in any way. If the deal is also about changes in the way Android is, it will affect us. I think there are both positive and negative outcomes - but until they come to a deal, we really can't know. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxo7g0ACgkQeDweFqgUGxdKiACdEHWE9jpxcpbONq9SttNgs3tP xZ4AnRyE3V5sQD2k5ASP4L3S9pLn2icg =Y+xk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Suggested read: http://blogs.forbes.com/taylorbuley/2010/08/13/android-lawsuit-is-really-just-oracle-flirting-with-google/ - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxo8dwACgkQeDweFqgUGxcXuQCcCiFY+IC2kXMsWzbejUXOtRqb qjMAmQHJBRWpCQTOoCfjd00bLwMh+aMZ =m91m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] XML parsing slow ... cache!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/16/10 16:02 , Davide wrote: Hi, I have seen that xml parsing is very slow. Using sax would be better, but benchmark show that sax work only 30% faster as dom. Is right? Is faster if I construct a DOM using sax? To reduce time i like to cache xml file. Caching it as xml is not a good idea because the parsing time is there again the secondo time. Should I use sqllite? Is faster? Is an idea to use an ObjectOutputStream? Can I put in asset a file maked by ObjectOutputStream or the serialized objects can be different in different mobile hardware? Davide, have you run some precise test so you are sure you've spotted the bottleneck? Just to be sure that it's really XML the problem (and not I/O). JSON could be an alternative. I've run some tests with serialization and theoretically works (I exchanged objects between Android and a JavaSE app), but it's somewhat brittle. Also, I'm not sure it's fast because introspection is not fast on Android (it might be different with 2.2). Also consider JDom / Jaxen as an alternate XML parser, might be worth while compare their performance. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxpTMMACgkQeDweFqgUGxdHiwCgne+CB+ZbtRZxLLN0VjH9ppZK pPEAoKC5cyf8MwUAl46+pdAGugg6/nES =gE71 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Problem computing the free space on the external card - only with a single installation
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Hello.
My application allow to download files and store them on the external
card. To avoid filling it, I've implemented a safety check so it
prevents downloading when the free space is less than 20MB. The
computation of the free space is done by:
public synchronized long getFreeSpace()
{
if (statFs == null)
{
statFs = new
StatFs(getExternalStorageDirectory().getAbsolutePath());
}
return statFs.getAvailableBlocks() * statFs.getBlockSize();
}
which I presume is correct. In fact, it works in all my tests and for
what I can say for the 99% of users. But a single user notified me
that my app is constantly giving the card full message, as if the
above method didn't work. He also told me that the problem went away
after a while, and returned after upgrading a new release of my app.
The user seems an advanced one, and I think he's able to check and
correctly manage the contents of his external card. He reported that
the card has more than 1.4GB free on the card. Are you aware of any
specific issue or bug? The smartphone of the user is a Dell Streak
with Android 1.6. Thanks.
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/14/10 23:04 , Sebastián Treu wrote: The problem it's not if Oracle wants to shutdown Android. The problem is how this will *affect* the android platform both acceptance and distribution. Android is new and it's making his way in the market. With this issue on the horizon, how will affect Android to be the choice of phone makers? Will you risk, as a phone maker, to continue supporting Android and distributing it in your phone without knowing what is happening behind the scenes? Good points, but Android has already made its way in the market. The same day Oracle filed the complaint (not a coincidence IMHO) there was the news that Android has passed iPhone in the USA and it's #2 on the USA market. So, it's well consolidated. The Oracle legal issue might certainly make some damage, but it largely depends on how long the trial will go on. I suppose that time is precisely one of the cards that Oracle is playing. If they settle down to an agreement in a relatively short time, we won't be affected by any major problem. So, there are still some months before one should be worried, I think. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxnpDcACgkQeDweFqgUGxcgagCgj82bwFlhqpq0BuyUC2cB9ohp HW8An2zqzHyjRX1inXC8VbBAW1g7qdo2 =bTFY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: My app is not visible for some (potential) users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/14/10 03:29 , String wrote: It's the difference between target and min sdk in your manifest. As long as you have min set to 3, it'll deploy fine to 1.5 devices; the unknown xml elements and attributes will just be ignored. String On Aug 13, 5:38 pm, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: On 8/13/10 18:00 , Lance Nanek wrote: You can have a build target higher than Android 1.5, but still specify Android 1.5 support in the android:minSdkVersion attribute of the uses- sdk element. It's the thing described in Supporting legacy... in Android docs, right? I hoped to avoid that, but I don't see other solutions. Many thanks to Lance and Sterling. It's clear and I'm working on it. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxmTzYACgkQeDweFqgUGxc62wCgqP9zQRLdv0pzSZAX4n/a0CIQ jz0An3ny0LzY0r0Bwam1f/a55LkImtAS =9hEo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Android 1.5 device behaves differently than the emulator
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On 8/14/10 12:28 , { Devdroid } wrote:
We had different problem on 1.5 where app worked fine on emulator
but crashed on device. In our case it was string formatting
difference where some call returned coma separated output on device
while on emulator it was dot separated (thus come conversion calls
crashed later on).
I've experienced differences too. I was doing the wrong thing with the
drawable resource directories - my fault, but the 1.5 emulator worked
fine while the real device crashed.
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/14/10 12:27 , netlander wrote: Now! can anyone (Google guys?) enlighten us on what's the lawsuit about? You can bet that none of Google will talk about this in the mailing lists :-) I suppose only lawyers, spokesmen and some executives will be allowed to talk in the next weeks. My point is that we developers should not be much worried about that. I don't think that Oracle has any real intention to shut down Android, since it's a pot of money. You usually want to have a part of it, or be part of the game, not to destroy it. My principal concerns about Android are the same as one week ago, that is to make my app work at best. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxmqYYACgkQeDweFqgUGxeQQQCgssZ5EBXd5lQQqfC0ZuLNVGZO L6QAoIEWRNQgxbg8mErHgb9Ed23d9ux8 =XOxW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 10:18 , Miguel Morales wrote: Eclipse is not snappy, at all. Not even close. KDevelop is snappy. XCode is snappy enough. Azureus is slow too, you have to really tune the settings to get some decent performance, same with Eclipse. Never used Tomcat? It can slow a server to a crawl with just a few processes. Not all of us can afford top of the line computers in order to run some software that runs fast in other programming languages. Do you know that most of the web sites, services and whatever on the internet are powered by Java and by a good percentage by Tomcat? Java = slow is bullishit at least since five years, so please don't spread FUD any longer. Yes, the java JVM works nicely in a server environment. Again, for your standard server applications. Subtle things in the GC process (as previously explained) make it too slow optimal performance. Other FUD. GC is no more a problem, unless a programmer is really ham-handed, since several years. That's why java is good for your standard apps, which is what it's great for. It doesn't push the standard in speed the way C does. This is meaningless given some context. There are plenty of benchmarks around that demonstrates than Java or C are faster. The JIT technology, BTW, allows for higher optimization than C, since it can only optimize statically. Of course, single benchmarks aren't meaningful, since in a real world project one have to do some trade-offs. There are many real-world examples that can be done, just the first one that is public and comes to my mind has been recently presented at Jazoon. See http://jazoon.com/Conference/Thursday/OMullane, slide #40, which I'm copying: Is Java fast enough.. ? On some processors with highly tuned C compilers the C can be faster than java (max factor 2) ?You can play cat and mouse for ever with any specific piece of code .. ? On most Intel?s Java is as fast or faster than C ?JIT(JustIn Time) Compiler with Hotspot remarkable! ? Just one example from Gaia ?Relativity C code running in simulator 10 years on super computer ?The orginal Author rewrote it in java ?Its is ~10 times faster in JAVA ! - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxlB7MACgkQeDweFqgUGxeVOgCgnbD37bXfa+50WQe9ohcf3Dwq G8AAoIDPZ97nFoICkc9Wdi+r6q61LM1c =qduP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 11:39 , Miguel Morales wrote: I don't know of any popular fast java applications, despite all these features. Again, Java is ok, great for what it does. But just not as good as its alternatives. It's great for android because it's popular. It's stable, there's tons of libraries, it's fast/efficient enough. You can optimize the hell out of it. That's why I said it's ok to good. When was the last time you heard of java in the news or in anything interesting until recently with android? Like I said, Oracle should be grateful google chose to use java. Java on customer desktop applications has been limited by a number of things that you previously cited: it's hard (but not impossible) to get a native look and feel, and for many years in the past it was even difficult to get a decent look and feel, and for many years there have been hard times in deploying it easily (there are still some residual problems). These are important things if you have to reach the end customers. In the industrial world, where both issues are less important, Java is widespread. Just have a look at http://platform.netbeans.org/screenshots.html and http://eclipse.org/community/rcp.php. You'll find tons of applications made even by large corporates and for basically all the industrial segments, running on the desktop. These are only the subset of Java applications using the NetBeans Platform and Eclipse RCP technologies - - there are many others. And these are only those that the makers were available to speak on; for instance, I've been consulting for years also on Java on the desktop and have customers running large and business applications which are 100% Java, also on the desktop, but aren't interested in publicly talking about them. Also, industrial applications don't make easily through common news as customer applications do, and this explain why Java is not well known to the large public. Yes, Java needs more memory in comparison with C. So, what's the point? It's a matter of cost / benefit ratio and memory is cheap enough to wholly compensate the increment in productivity that one has by working with the whole Java ecosystem (which include tools heavily based on bytecode manipulation, such as profilers, AOP, coverage reporting tools, etc...) that aren't in the domain of C because it compiles to native code. For what comes to Android, I'd like to recall that up to 2.1 we didn't have any JIT, that has been introduced with 2.2. I'd be curious to know whether people who has experienced some performance troubles with Dalvik has tried his app on Froyo. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxlFnYACgkQeDweFqgUGxempQCdEzt80ZrbqIWWdVB8WP7gsHMA 82YAoIgv2TyivL70dfjQNtpbk+SqHovH =R0Su -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 14:05 , DanH wrote: Acually, SUN has one of the worst JVMs available, and that's probably a big part of what's got Oracle upset about Android. (That and the money, of course.) I would assume that Google got one of the standard development licenses from Sun, where they could do pretty much whatever they wanted -- it just had to pass the JCK tests if they used the name Java. I'm assuming that Android Java passes the JCK somehow. You're assuming wrong. Google took the runtime from Harmony, which is a willing-to-be-Java implementation made by the Apache Software Foundation and that never got the permission by Sun to be tested against the JCK (thus it can't be named as Java). It's a well known debate between Sun and the Apache that has been going for years. When we use the Android SDK we're using the Java compiler from Sun/Oracle, we're having an intermediate passage through Sun/Oracle bytecode, but we end with bytecode made by Google and with a runtime that has nothing to do with Java. I've read previously discussions about the topic that seemed to miss completely this fact. Google has never claimed that it's compatible with Java(TM) and I think there's not a single bit of Sun code in Android - in fact, Oracle filed the sue not about a license violation concerning its own SDK, but mentioning more general patents, as you can read here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/35815632/Oracle-Google-Complaint ?Protection Domains To Provide Security In A Computer System? ?Controlling Access To A Resource ?Method And Apparatus For Preprocessing And Packaging Class Files? ?System And Method For Dynamic Preloading Of Classes Through Memory Space Cloning Of A Master Runtime System Process? ?Method And Apparatus For Resolving Data References In Generate Code? ?Interpreting Functions Utilizing A Hybrid Of Virtual And Native Machine Instructions? ?Method And System for Performing Static Initialization? In other words, this is the classic patent-based war that often occurs among large corporates and that, thanks to the currently flawed patent bills, allows every corporate to sue any other one. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxlO3IACgkQeDweFqgUGxeVLQCfbMoRpUswnloeo/EpCI86/7Ye lVYAoJGlV2fHi8BXHzNymsaJpFjQ+olZ =p/8D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: My app is not visible for some (potential) users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 17:14 , Lance Nanek wrote: I'd make sure the supports-screens element is present in your AndroidManifest.xml with android:smallScreens set to true, or that the android:targetSdkVersion attribute is present on your uses-sdk element and set high enough to make the smallScreens attribute default to true on its own as per this page: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/supports-screens-element.html Thanks for trying it. But isn't that supposed to hold for Android 1.6 and upper? I'm targetting 1.5 and this should automatically make the app compatible with every screen, right?. After all, otherwise I shouldn't ever see the app from my Droid that has got a 'large' screen... - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxlZH8ACgkQeDweFqgUGxeymwCfYCggnDvvTqwCKmQ/S2wqp4fS ZPoAnjf20e2b5H/Yx56UnOt2tHJ3sq13 =GyJ4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: My app is not visible for some (potential) users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 17:34 , Lance Nanek wrote: Apps that do not support large screens are still available to large screen devices. Apps that do not support small screens are not available to small screen devices. Thanks. I've verified with the customer and he's indeed running an HTC wildfire, which is a 240 x 320 QVGA, so it makes sense. Now, the final question: since the support-screens manifest element is not supported with Android 1.5, does this mean that any application targeting Android 1.5 is not compatible with small screens? Right? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxlaPkACgkQeDweFqgUGxfGAwCeMqH5UNjs4bQ+0JH1wrFaLps8 UIIAoJ8B+WbECUXcUNIve7D9z47hZF4T =V2qC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: My app is not visible for some (potential) users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 18:00 , Lance Nanek wrote: You can have a build target higher than Android 1.5, but still specify Android 1.5 support in the android:minSdkVersion attribute of the uses- sdk element. It's the thing described in Supporting legacy... in Android docs, right? I hoped to avoid that, but I don't see other solutions. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxldPgACgkQeDweFqgUGxeBEwCgj1UV7YUIlCaowfamyqtb+VDN 1j0AnRKXCjFksS/HM6HUObGA/arhEK0V =/95c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 19:08 , DanH wrote: Yeah, I saw the list of patents, and commented above that from the titles they likely were pretty narrow. This is going to be an angels- on-the-head-of a-pin battle. To complete the scenario, I've been pointed to that in the complaint there's also a copyright violation allegation, regarding Java itself. It is not clear to what it refers to and I still believe that there are not Sun bits in Android. In any case, it is cited after the seven patents, so I think that the last ones are the real core of the case. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxljGYACgkQeDweFqgUGxeG3ACfUTWGMGoaaXaIlTLRyBzkKO8l vZgAoIG/tPMa12OEydov+FzsM4p6Ml7w =Jlky -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM, DanH danhi...@ieee.org mailto:danhi...@ieee.org wrote: I do wish that Sun had fully opensourced and open licensed Java like they were planning to several years back. I'm guessing the plan was killed when Oracle began negotiating with them. Java Standard Edition _is_ fully open sourced under the GPL+CPE license (Java Micro Edition is a different thing, but it's not related with Android). As fas as I understand, even though you open source a product, there's still the patent thing. Usually these are handled by having the license to grant users a perpetual right to use the technology guaranteeing that they won't be accused of breaking a patent. But this clearly applies only to people using the plain open Java made by Sun / Oracle. Back to the license thing, I suppose that Oracle might refer to the Java specifications and namespaces (the java.* thing). Probably, even though Google has never claimed that Android is Java and their implementation doesn't derive from Sun, the weak point could be the fact that Android uses a subset of the runtime specifications and namespaces. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxlqJEACgkQeDweFqgUGxd7LQCgkq+uB04uYEOgtnRlDBpTuXIr oxwAn2pPRrHaRWHa6TkeU+/Mo+YdrRAQ =ZvTF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Chilling news: Oracle sues Google over Android
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/10 22:38 , François Masurel wrote: That's what I was asking to myself : what if Google simply infringed Oracle copyrights by using Java specifications and namespaces ? Can APIs be copyrighted ? Of course they can and specs can be licensed independently of an implementation. It's a complex thing and today I've read opposite opinions on many blogs by people who should have a knowledge on the matter. I suppose we'd better to wait some days for a better analysis of the problem. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxluJgACgkQeDweFqgUGxd/fgCfX2LSyhtTzLygHUBYGanDE+kY RXIAmwafjkrF5X4+HQPsQGNbZl3A5aA2 =Mboi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] My app is not visible for some (potential) users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm getting feedbacks from a few potential users that they can't see my application (blueBill Mobile) on the Market. I've checked it myself and for what I can see everything is fine. Today two persons reported the problem, one from UK and the other from Italy. They both have recent Android versions that are supported by my application. It sounds they are not doing any error in the search since they used the QRCode I've published on my website, that I'm able to confirm. What's happening? It's really annoying - one makes a new release, publishes the news, I can see more hits on my own webpage, and yet some users can't get the application. Should I fine an issue to the Android issue tracker? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxkUBcACgkQeDweFqgUGxcd/QCeL5x3WzjM5xMNeE2Gw0vl+I+O FIkAoK+GtjVmkgrhoohRcJltokNXKjfj =kBmq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Can't make restartPackage() / killBackgroundProcesses() to work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/9/10 23:19 , Indicator Veritatis wrote: That depends on where you draw your line to decide what is in and outside of the black box. If you use JUnit, and have all your Applications under test inherit from the basic test (TestCase), can't you get the black box test effect you desire? Black box to me means using the minimum or not at all the APIs of the application, but driving instead the tests emulating user gestures to the UI. The reason for that is that I want to test what my users will see, and everything done outside the black-box approach would break that constraint. This can be done with JUnit and the Android API; the problem is that if you need that tests are run in isolation, e.g. every test starts from scratch, this is not possible from a single adb invocation, because you can't force unloading stuff (of course I could call some of my application methods to force a clean up of the app status, but it wouldn't be black-box). The only resort is multiple invocation of adb, which seems to do the required clean up. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxhO1kACgkQeDweFqgUGxdbnACghaUY3YU0zLGrkG+kkHYXz32g r7gAoIGRc6TNqlLPuIF5rlIij/wKjL/F =/UOF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Can't make restartPackage() / killBackgroundProcesses() to work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/9/10 04:03 , Dianne Hackborn wrote: Well if you need it, write your own code to do it. They are your apps, right? You can have a way for them to interact to have one ask the other to kill itself -- send a broadcast to it, have a service to bind to to send a command to it, or heck even just have an instrumentation test case that does a self-murder and run that between every real test case. It's what I'm doing in other cases, but this wouldn't be a black-box testing. (Note from looking at your manifest -- applications have never been able to get the INJECT_EVENT permission, so there is no reason to request it.) Yes, it's a residual for other tries. Thanks. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxf3uIACgkQeDweFqgUGxfR9gCfThS8ssQCOpmiH2O+DZv4jtpb fg8An1grVKrBcaBFyUdnhVgjAOyRJMsB =C1du -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Can't make restartPackage() / killBackgroundProcesses() to work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/7/10 19:59 , Dianne Hackborn wrote: Sorry you can't do this. Apps now can only kill processes of other apps that are in the background. Too bad. This makes functional testing more complex and longer than it should... :-( But why doesn't it work in older emulator versions than 2.2? - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxend8ACgkQeDweFqgUGxdY8wCfdS/DjA7VIg6NRP3HdjAonvIJ 6CsAn0udiHGHk+MEUF9Szr4zGhsE+a5M =DiZF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Can't make restartPackage() / killBackgroundProcesses() to work
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Hello.
I'm trying to have restartPackage() work - please note that I'm aware
of all the discussions related to APIs for restarting another
application; I'm not trying to do this in production, but during
functional tests in order to be sure to have the application under
test to start clean every time (without it, I'm currently forced to
run one functional test at a time with adb, which is an annoyance). I
know that restartPackage() has been deprecated in 2.2 and now is
equivalent to killBackgroundProcesses(), which is perfectly fine for
me.
This is the code I'm trying (from setUp() of an
ActivityInstrumentationTestCase2):
private void resetApplication()
{
logger.info( RESTARTING APP);
final Context context = getInstrumentation().getContext(); //
also tried with getTargetContext(), even though I suppose getContext()
is correct
final ActivityManager manager =
(ActivityManager)context.getSystemService(Context.ACTIVITY_SERVICE);
manager.restartPackage(it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android);
}
but I constantly get:
W/ActivityManager( 1280): Permission Denial: restartPackage() from
pid=6014, uid=10071 requires android.permission.RESTART_PACKAGES
I/TestRunner( 6014): failed:
testRun(it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android.test.functional.InsertOneObservationFromScratch)
I/TestRunner( 6014): - begin exception -
I/TestRunner( 6014):
I/TestRunner( 6014): java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial:
restartPackage() from pid=6014, uid=10071 requires
android.permission.RESTART_PACKAGES
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1218)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.os.Parcel.readException(Parcel.java:1206)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.app.ActivityManagerProxy.restartPackage(ActivityManagerNative.java:2383)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.app.ActivityManager.restartPackage(ActivityManager.java:910)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android.ScenarioTestSupport.resetApplication(ScenarioTestSupport.java:183)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android.ScenarioTestSupport.setUp(ScenarioTestSupport.java:87)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android.test.functional.ObservationScenarioTestSupport.setUp(ObservationScenarioTestSupport.java:48)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
junit.framework.TestCase.runBare(TestCase.java:125)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
junit.framework.TestResult$1.protect(TestResult.java:106)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
junit.framework.TestResult.runProtected(TestResult.java:124)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
junit.framework.TestResult.run(TestResult.java:109)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
junit.framework.TestCase.run(TestCase.java:118)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.test.AndroidTestRunner.runTest(AndroidTestRunner.java:169)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.test.AndroidTestRunner.runTest(AndroidTestRunner.java:154)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.test.InstrumentationTestRunner.onStart(InstrumentationTestRunner.java:430)
I/TestRunner( 6014): at
android.app.Instrumentation$InstrumentationThread.run(Instrumentation.java:1447)
I/TestRunner( 6014): - end exception -
Of course I put the required permission in the AndroidManifest.xml:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
manifest package=it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android.tests
android:versionCode=1545
xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android;
android:versionName=0.14.0-SNAPSHOT
uses-sdk android:minSdkVersion=3/
uses-permission android:name=android.permission.INJECT_EVENT/
uses-permission android:name=android.permission.RESTART_PACKAGES/
application android:label=blueBill Mobile Functional Tests
uses-library android:name=android.test.runner/
/application
instrumentation
android:name=android.test.InstrumentationTestRunner
android:targetPackage=it.tidalwave.bluebill.mobile.android
android:label=Tests for blueBill Mobile for Android./
/manifest
The app with tests is signed with the same signature of the app under
test (the debug key). It happens both with the emulator (1.5 and 2.2)
and a Motorola Droid (2.1). Of course the 2.2 with the variant that
the required permission is android.permission.KILL_BACKGROUND_PROCESSES.
Why am I still getting the error? Thanks.
- --
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Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere.
java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people
fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android testing: can't programmatically press buttons, etc...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/5/10 19:11 , A. Elk wrote: In other words, you can do button presses in a sample Android app from a test package, but you can't do them from your app's test package to the app under test. Right. (The test package is the same as the test app and the app under test is the application you're trying to build.) Are you using ActivityInstrumentationTestCase2 as your test case class? I assume that you're calling TouchUtils.clickView(t,v) where t is the test case object (probably _this_), and v is the Button object you want to click, in the Activity you're testing in the app under test. I'm trying _also_ with TouchUtils.clickView(); I'm also exploring other testing frameworks. The cited Robotium, for instance, creates MotionEvents with the DOWN/UP sequence and the proper position and feeds them to the Instrumentation (yes, I'm using AITC2). I've manually verified that the events are properly created (uptime, coordinates are ok - tested with the hierarchyviewer - etc). Yesterday night I discovered that tests launched my application not in touch mode (in fact, I could see a focused button in orange). This would have been an explanation, but then I explicitly added setActivityInitialTouchMode(true) in setUp(), I got a visual confirmation that it has been accepted (I no more see a focused button), but it's not yet working. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxbsrYACgkQeDweFqgUGxfhaACfZpiS5INwfKXAHoblnkbGammP dbwAn0WuoLcxXkTbDzj8qRORCEVZQaUf =3h7h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] how to check whether insterted SD Card is full or not
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/6/10 18:21 , TreKing wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:23 AM, pradeep gan@gmail.com mailto:gan@gmail.com wrote: Could you please let me know if there is any API to check whether inserted SD Card is full . If it has free space, then how to know how much free space is left. The SD card is a Java File like any other. Knowing this, doing this http://tinyurl.com/2cmrt59 led me to http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/io/File.html#getTotalSpace() and http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/io/File.html#getFreeSpace() Try that. I do this: statFs = new StatFs(getExternalStorageDirectory().getAbsolutePath()); return statFs.getAvailableBlocks() * statFs.getBlockSize(); Seems to work, with a user that once said that he experienced a problem that could be tracked down to that value erroneously computed as zero (or a very small value) even if the card was ok. But I had no more feedback from him and no other notices of error. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxcRcgACgkQeDweFqgUGxfcmgCgsQtqykvLuCZrPEBxjo18t6RW gzAAn0xfWkvqp5N3JanzrbdYIMknQSAI =fNGB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Programmatically expanding / collapsing items of an ExpandableListView
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This should be a very simple thing, but it's driving me crazy and
currently one of the older bugs of my app. Given an ExpandableListView
I want to collapse all the groups but the last one and expand the last
one. The code below doesn't work (basically seems to do things at
random). Thanks.
final ExpandableListView expandableListView =
getExpandableListView();
final int groupCount = expandableListView.getCount();
for (int i = 0; i groupCount - 1; i++)
{
expandableListView.collapseGroup(i);
}
expandableListView.expandGroup(groupCount - 1);
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Re: [android-developers] Programmatically expanding / collapsing items of an ExpandableListView
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/6/10 20:12 , TreKing wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it mailto:fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: The code below doesn't work (basically seems to do things at random). What does it does things at random mean? I would not collapse all but the last group. I would collapse them all to make sure they're all the same, then expand the one you want. Try that? Hmmm... the problem seems to be fixed by replacing: final int groupCount = expandableListView.getCount(); with final int groupCount = expandableListView.getExpandableListAdapter().getGroupCount(); getCount() always returns a smaller number that it should be (e.g. 0 when there is 1 item in the list). That explains the behaviour for which some nodes that are not the last one sometimes get expanded. I supposed that getCount() was equivalent to getExpandableListAdapter().getGroupCount(), but I'm clearly wrong. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxced4ACgkQeDweFqgUGxfsxwCgh1u+p4hZpLGoHuRWj6Mn5cdr s/EAoKGpW+ax54dK4BA34cuL8jKa5Dmr =DLp9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Android testing: can't programmatically press buttons, etc...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. I'm trying to write some functional tests for my application that include interactions with the UI. As part of the test I'm trying to press a button programmatically. I've both tried TouchUtils.clickView() and Robotium (third party's utility for this task). But buttons don't get pressed. With Robotium, whose sources are simpler to understand, I can track my code until it properly generates ACTION_DOWN and ACTION_UP events. At the same time, I've tried a Robotium sample together with a small sample application, and it works perfectly. So, Robotium works and my Android SDK is ok - it must be something specific of my application. What should I check? Is it possible to track with the system logger events sent by mean of Instrumentation.sendPointerSync()? For the record, I've tried the sample application with Eclipse, while I'm developing mine with NetBeans + Maven. But I don't think this makes a difference. Also, of course my application perfectly works if I manually test it. Thanks. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxayRsACgkQeDweFqgUGxe+nACeL66XyDdH18ozPM5+eRxBbLxS ARcAniMNuBE/XdjltsGwir1UPKsABZic =tfuS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android testing: can't programmatically press buttons, etc...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/5/10 17:56 , Brion Emde wrote: Did you try working with the testing tutorial? http://developer.android.com/resources/tutorials/testing/activity_test.html That gives an example of using the Instrumentation to send key presses to an Activity. Yes, I've been able to run example tests both from vanilla Android and from Robotium - they work. For what I've checked (multiple times) the set up, manifest, etc... are properly configured in my app. I don't know what to check more, that's why I'd like to know whether there's some kind of system diagnostics to understand what's happening. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxa5cYACgkQeDweFqgUGxee1ACfYErl7SuHOHq9GXAWO8A1Gwjx GVkAn27QZt7aZTV8qWxYgJs1Ze4u2UGv =lvr2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Avoiding GPL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/25/10 22:53 , Anton Persson wrote: Well, to connect to a MySQL database you need a connector, and the connector library shipped with MySQL is under GPL. Which is what I meant. And, hence, corporations buy licenses from MySQL to avoid having to release their applications under the GPL. (If you still don't believe me, try explaining the reason why they HAVE a dual license model... If they only wanted to sell support and indemnification, a separate paid-for license would NOT be needed... See Red Hat for an example of how that works..) But I was referring to MySQL, not the connector. Also, sure there will be also corporates who pay for not using the GPL, but my point was that one is not forced to pay to use it. Now I think we are made clear our points, and MySQL was only an example. And; the INTENT of MySQL is that if you use the GPL version of the MySQL database, your application should also be GPL. But, of course, there are loopholes. However, using these loopholes in a way that is obviously a circumvention is against this INTENT. If you want people to respect YOUR intellectual property, you should respect others as well, and not exploit their software in an unintended manner. Licenses arbitrate how much land each entity has the right to own, in other words they establish borders in a objective way that everybody agrees on, not a subjective or moralistic one. So while I personally might have some interest in what other people are willing to do (subjective and moral position), not everybody is compelled to do that, but only respect the law. Everybody uses licenses to try to place that border in the most convenient possible way. An author of FLOSS software tries to place the border in the best possible position in his perspective, and a user of a FLOSS software has the same right, in his perspective. PS MySQL intent was to make money, and GPL is one of the best way to do that, because of the double licensing thing. In fact, they made a lot of money. Note that the owner of MySQL has changed many times and the intents of the original founders, of Sun Microsystems and Oracle might have been changed. Frankly, if I used MySQL I wouldn't be interested in what their intents are, only in what I can do. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwmRwIACgkQeDweFqgUGxdGBACbBX13NejP63WSlLMgtoCuZ2xb cQcAn15F0686sMX6qDugfZy8ScS4ajE/ =ME+q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Avoiding GPL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/25/10 04:55 , Andy Savage wrote: I forgot to say in my previous post. In response to the person talking about MySQL. I believe this is quite different as MySQL is a completely self contained database system that other applications communicate with. As in, it's a completely GPL package, rather than a part of another application. If you actually incorporated the MySQL code within your application I believe it would break GPL (presuming your application was closed source). I am not sure how this applies to the MySQL libraries that are setup to use mysql say from PHP. This is correct, and I was referring to MySQL. The difference stays in that incorporating - as you said, if the two apps were still considered as two separate, collaborating apps it would be fine. On 6/25/10 09:39 , Anton Persson wrote: Not entirely true. Yes; a LOT of non-FLOSS (closed source) apps use MySQL.. But they do that by buying the non-FLOSS-licenses that MySQL _sell_. MySQL allows you to use MySQL with the GPL license as long as YOUR application is also using GPL. That is their idea, and that's why many prefer PostgreSQL. So, if you are using MySQL with the GPL license you are doing something MySQL doesn't want you to do. This is COMPLETELY incorrect. Corporates buy the paid license of MySQL because of support and indemnification. The GPL license CLEARLY says that a GPL application can be used without applying the virality when it runs in a separate process and is used by connecting with a socket (or other ways, such as clear API access points - otherwise, everything using Linux should be GPL as well, and clearly it isn't). - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwlC9oACgkQeDweFqgUGxd1sgCgkmJuBWeEGzc50aATw08v/Uke Is0AoJ/o8RAoJ1XMTRvlWXQA3jM74sHQ =Q5fR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Avoiding GPL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/23/10 10:51 , Sean Hodges wrote: You really need to consult a specialist on this subject, developers (including me) have a tendency to give out I am not a lawyer type advice, which is inherently unreliable. In the strategy you describe, I believe putting A and B in the same APK means you are distributing both components as a single piece of software. A person cannot modify and distribute B without either bundling closed-source A, or modifying the build process (which also violates the GPL). You would be closer to a solution if you created 2 separate APK's, as long as A and B are completely independent of each other. The nature of the GPL is that the authors *do not want* their code distributed in a closed-source solution, and this is exactly why it is so difficult to find a legal way to do it. If you want to mix licences; seek legal advice, and/or contact the authors about the possibility of a dual-licence solution. I agree that binding everything into a single .apk is very likely a GPL violation; in the best case, an expert would be needed to clarify the point. I repeat, the simpler thing is to ask the FSF about, as they are quite open (!) to talk to people. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwlDHMACgkQeDweFqgUGxeQvwCfY2KWbanVJWP4IooODu9AWwqM AJsAni7uJGyN0lR66RcjPFyO6Sy4W//F =glY7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Avoiding GPL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/22/10 13:19 , Tom Gibara wrote: I am not a lawyer etc. but I think you should be very careful about trying to circumvent the GPLv3 in this way; its wording is broad. You have several options without attempting this, they include: finding a revenue model that's compatible with open sourcing your application, consulting a lawyer first, contacting the author of the library and explaining the situation. While I second the point that legal things must be properly understood, I don't agree that this is trying to circumvent a license. License explain what can be done and what can't be done, and the original poster is just trying to find a legal way to do that. For instance, MySQL is GPL, but tons of non-FLOSS projects use it, because GPL applies to the concept of linking to the code, and doesn't apply to separate process communicating. That's how a non FLOSS application can use MySQL, without circumventing the GPL. Thus, the original idea of setting up a inter-process communication makes sense and if it were plain Java on a plain desktop I'd say it's fine (IANAL, of course). I don't know how this can apply to Android. Maybe looking at the FSF FAQs or sending them an email would help. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwgn50ACgkQeDweFqgUGxdSxQCeMaMJfIIEe4Zu1oQJ2TaAaQ0Z lyAAoJsSKsHyvJr2ze3ENa1GhXD5JByi =WP8Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
