RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-27 Thread Fleming, William
Ln Corvallis, Montana From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Randy Beaudry Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:35 AM To: Apple-Crop Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! Another relatively sobering

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2010-07-27 Thread Daniel Cooley
He had a few other factors working for him. He was on top of a hill, with good air movement. Conway, where he lived, is climatically cooler than most of MA or in your case CT. His trees were relatively small and well-pruned. Again, good air movement, less humidity. He was removed from the

Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-27 Thread Daniel Cooley
Actually I've seen the process of moving from blemished fruit to clean fruit happen, Dave, on research trips to Romania. When we first went, soon after the fall of communism, the apples being sold in all the markets I saw were blemished by insects and diseases to the extent that most would

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2010-07-26 Thread evansml
-Original Message- From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of frecon Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:02 PM To: 'Apple-Crop' Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! Dear Mr. Kuljis: Everything in the real, physical

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2010-07-26 Thread William H Shoemaker
Research Center 535 Randall Road, St Charles, IL, 60174 630-584-7254, FAX-584-4610 wshoe...@illinois.edu Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! While Robert Kuljis worries about the influence of giant companies, others, including myself, worry about the influence of left

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2010-07-26 Thread Daniel Cooley
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Mark Angermayer wrote: Obviously, I'm not a behavioral scientist but I think instead of educated in your quote, a better word would be offered. That is, agriculture has continued to offer more attractive looking food. It seems to me the consumer drives it,

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2010-07-25 Thread Claude Jolicoeur
Dave Rosenberger wrote: Unfortunately, American and European consumers demand food that is 100% free of pests, blemishes, and contaminants I think this is the key point! If there were no perfect fruit available on the market, people would eat fruit that is not perfect. A spot of scab on an

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2010-07-25 Thread almarapple
, 2010 6:15 PM o: 'Apple-Crop' ubject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! Every once in a while I have to pull out something that was posted a few ears back on this list serve about organic. I think it fits. I even grow ome certified organic apples, but this really sums it up

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2010-07-25 Thread dockw
Sent: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 7:39 am Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! Comment: There has been many note able comments made about organic apple production, and this is quite common on such a controversial subject. I find this very similar to diverse and many times erroneous

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2010-07-25 Thread Dave Rosenberger
apple grower for fifteen years -Original Message- From: Kurt Alstede k...@alstedefarms.com To: 'Apple-Crop' apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 2:57 pm Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! To Jim Bittner's quote I say AMEN! Yet, also like Jim we

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2010-07-25 Thread frecon
something about that. Who's in charge here! Bill Original message Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:31:11 -0400 From: Ken Hall edsorch...@aol.com Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Is anyone familiar with work on human exposure

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2010-07-24 Thread Bill Shoemaker
I recently heard life is terminal. I think someone should do something about that. Who's in charge here! Bill Original message Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:31:11 -0400 From: Ken Hall edsorch...@aol.com Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! To: apple-crop

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2010-07-24 Thread Robert kuljis
here! Bill Original message Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:31:11 -0400 From: Ken Hall edsorch...@aol.com Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net Is anyone familiar with work on human exposure to kaolin clay in an orchard setting

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2010-07-24 Thread Bill Shoemaker
I agree. I wasn't really arguing with Ken. I just wonder when we will get to live risk-free. Bill Original message Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:49:50 -0700 From: Robert kuljis rjkul...@peak.org Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! To: Apple-Crop apple-crop

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2010-07-24 Thread Jim Bittner
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! I agree. I wasn't really arguing with Ken. I just wonder when we will get to live risk-free. Bill Original message Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:49:50 -0700 From: Robert kuljis rjkul...@peak.org Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: RE

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2010-07-24 Thread Kurt Alstede
PM To: 'Apple-Crop' Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! Every once in a while I have to pull out something that was posted a few years back on this list serve about organic. I think it fits. I even grow some certified organic apples, but this really sums it up

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2010-07-24 Thread Dave Rosenberger
Mr. Kuljis, your response causes me considerable pain for several different reasons. First, where did you come up with data indicating that 40% of green house gas emissions result from agriculture? I find that figure very difficult to believe, although I am not an expert on greenhouse

RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-24 Thread Jim Bittner
: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:15 PM To: 'Apple-Crop' Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too! Every once in a while I have to pull out something that was posted a few years back on this list serve about organic. I think it fits. I even grow some certified organic apples

Apple-Crop: RE:..and causes you to be fat too!

2010-07-23 Thread moore5403
It is more important to know where your food is grown! We have seen salmonella from melons and scallions from Mexico and Asia. The USA has the Food Drug Administration that tightly regulates pesticides and their application. Foreign foods do not! Some pesticides are not applied to the

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2010-07-23 Thread Robert kuljis
I agree to buy local , but how can you say that organic pesticides are more toxic to the enviornment? Lets see, kaolin clay, entrust (soil organism), pyrethreum(breaks down VERY fast, as opposed to synthetic version which last longer). How are these more toxic then man made chemicals