Re: [Arm-netbook] archive
On April 3, 2017 7:18:44 AM PDT, Muhammed Adel Afzal wrote: >Is there an archive for old messages on this listserv? I posted >something recently but forgot to read the replies before my listserv >folder cleared those messages. > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/ -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] around when might we receive these computers?
On March 29, 2017 11:40:47 AM PDT, Muhammed Adel Afzal wrote: >I remember that it was originally supposed to be April this year I >think. Is that still true? Pretty excited but I understand of course >if there have been delays. > Its my understanding that they will be shipped soon after multiple working prototypes have been achieved. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] AMD considering releasing the PSP
On March 10, 2017 10:34:55 AM PST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > bottom line, if AMD want to stay in business they need to get out of >x86. part-hardware-emulated x86 fine (like the Loongson 3H >architecture did), non-x86, fine. pure x86: dying and dead very soon. > I'm rather curious about this. "x86 is dying" is a rather vague statement. Do you mean producers investing in x86 processor based hardware are likely to be pushed out of making profit by non-x86 competitors? -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] systemd and kernel: 3.4, mainline [was: Re: Logging and journaling]
On March 7, 2017 5:20:50 PM PST, Hendrik Boom wrote: >On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:39:46 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > >> >> just go with the image that i have been working with and testing over >> the past two years. it's using xfce4 (gnome is too heavy). i know >it >> works, and i simply don't have the time - or importantly the energy - >to >> create a new image, *especially* based on people's comments and >> reactions that they'd be deeply unhappy with it not being a "stock >> image", even if all i did was make it boot sysvinit instead by >default. >> those comments *alone* immediately terminate all and any possibility >> that i can provide debian/jessie in a 100% ethical way. > >Do the same you did with Debian, only use Devuan aand the Devuan >installer. It will likely just work, and you won;t need to expunge >systemd. > >Sell it as a Devuan system. > >You can still make a stock Debian available if your customers demand >it. >But by providing Devuan you won't be pushing systemd on those that >don't >want it. Your conscience can be somewhat clearer. > I agree with this approach. Trying to single-handedly remove systemd from an otherwise maintained distro is targeting a symptom without mitigating the cause, and could break things that people expect to work. Devuan is a *great* solution for anyone wanting to get Debian without systemd, and there's no need to duplicate effort. However, it is IMO too late to pivot to this solution as the cards have been tested on a specific image and changing that would invalidate years of costly testing. Plus, the bigger problem we have is that these cards can't be updated to current Debian *at all* because of a kernel bug. That is why this is a somewhat limited run AFAIK and it's worth it to note Luke doesn't and can't have customers according to what he says. I find it likely the eventual distributor of mass-market cards will simply sell Debian as-is. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] passthrough, a20 and rk3288 cards
On February 23, 2017 12:55:18 PM PST, zap wrote: > >I wonder if the eoma68 cards should have a desktop choice built into >the >crowdsupply purchase area. Where you choose which card you want. > That would be a rather fine-grained choice. The campaign already has 4 different operating systems to choose from. I suppose Debian implies a choice between XFCE and LXDE, and could mean a fifth card representing another Debian choice. Is this what you mean? -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] passthrough, a20 and rk3288 cards
On February 23, 2017 8:30:05 AM PST, zap wrote: > >does lxde work well on arm devices also? I am guessing yes but I don't >know for sure. > LXQT (or LXDE I don't know for sure) comes by default with Debian for the Beagleboneblack. In my experience it works well. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] passthrough, a20 and rk3288 cards
On February 21, 2017 2:00:06 PM PST, Parobalth wrote: >Am 21.02.2017 10:02 nachm. schrieb "Paul Boddie" : > >I'm probably not the kind of person to bring much to the table, either, >but >what kind of equipment would one need to actually attempt anything with >such a >card at this point? > >I believe Luke provided some clues when he wrote that he is going to >provide: >OTG-Host Cable, breakout board (or microdesktop) and RS232-USB-UART. >with the pre-production boards. Seems like power, access to the pins, and some really low-level signal communication called UART -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] passthrough, a20 and rk3288 cards
On February 21, 2017 3:52:12 AM PST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > >btw i didn't hear from anyone about the offer to send out >pre-production cards. > I'm tempted but I have nothing to bring to the Linux effort; zero experience hacking or installing the kernel and not much time to learn. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Mainlining the EOMA68-A20
On February 13, 2017 1:50:29 AM PST, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >Obligatory link: http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort > Thanks. I wonder if this topic been raised on the mailing list already; I suppose it's a little premature since the initial run of dev cards haven't gotten to backers yet, and we weed hackers to have them in order to start hacking on the kernel. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling
who now >depend on them. > >put another way: > >systemd has a huge - MASSIVE - series of independent statistical >correlations associated with it, none of them INDIVIDUALLY being >statistically significant or indicative of anything (because they're >independent events) but when added up overall, using demster-shafer >theory, give support for the hypothesis that there is something >deeply, deeply wrong with systemd with a confidence level somewhere >around 4 sigma. i simply cannot ignore that, but equally i cannot >really explain it in ways that you would ACCEPT, either, because my >name is not "linus torvalds" or "dr richard stallman". > >anyway. the fact that the 3.4 kernel has to be used makes it entirely >moot. which reminds me the last time this happened, was when i was >working in portsmouth, something similar happened. i was ORDERED to >deploy ubuntu, but could not explain or vocalise the dozens of reasons >why that was a bad idea. finally one of the sysadmins got fed up of >hearing the discussion, did some research and found that canonical had >long since terminated support for 486 processors. > >so please. understand. sometimes i *can't give you a concrete >reason* because there are instead potentially *hundreds* of >lower-probability ones, some of which i'm not even consciously aware >of. I think it's possible for people to learn to understand and trust your intuition. After all, a lot of good leaders make decisions based on uncanny intuition. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling
On February 12, 2017 11:35:00 AM PST, Lyberta wrote: > >It looks like EOMA68-A20 is not going to just work. I don't want it to >end like my laptop. This is a legit problem. While the first EOMA68-A20 cards need to be shipped without delay, we also NEED to get EOMA computer cards to work with stock Debian and more as soon as possible. Thankfully it seems the main argument started by this thread has wound down, but I don't know how to properly split off threads into a new subject. If there's anyone who can continue the discussion on getting modern, update-able images on the A20 or other, please do so. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling
On February 12, 2017 12:56:57 AM PST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > the certification mark process requires that i >not have any customers at all, only licensees of the certification >mark. the only reason why i'm here at all is to bootstrap the >ecosystem, and to fulfil the requirements in order to be able to even >*apply* for the certification mark i have to be very *very* careful >not to have actual customers. This is an important point. Will it be part of a future update? I was under the impression that rhombus-tech would be producing and selling products *without* the certification mark to jump-start a market where others would produce and apply for the certification mark. If a different entity out of this community must take over the flagship of the first mass-produced products, I'm confident the research and information developed up to the point of shipping to backers is enough to facilitate that happening. I do however wonder who is going to be doing it. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling
On February 12, 2017 1:40:50 AM PST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > once the first Cards are out there, i would assume it would be >natural for people to help each other get things up-to-date and to >sort out any software issues. > > that leaves me free to focus on hardware design (which i would like >to also be moved to the responsibility of others) and on being the >guardian of the eoma68 standard. > Indeed, this us vs. l. attitude isn't productive. We are a community built around a standards project. I think l. is hard at work to get a product out the door with the software that is tested and working on it without unnecessary delay, as part of the project. If any of us are dissatisfied with the idea of what's on the product, then one or more of us ought to get cracking on producing some of those "specially prepared microSD card"s that will flash a proper image onto the product, as another part of the project. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Logging and journaling
On February 11, 2017 7:10:00 AM PST, Lyberta wrote: >Great, and what about newbies who want stock image and don't know the >nooks and crannies of GNU/Linux? Depending on what you mean by "newbies", I don't think they would know if they want any particular image of GNU/Linux except the one that was designed to run on the product by the maker of the product. After all, they don't know the nooks and crannies of GNU/Linux and would just want to receive a product that works. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] OT: The U.S. Needs to Stop Lecturing the Rest of the World About Internet Values
On November 27, 2016 6:12:03 PM PST, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >--- >crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > >On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Jonathan Frederickson > wrote: > >> Of course this could all be the result of complex plots within the US >> government and foreign governments, but I tend to believe that it's >> more just a lack of exposure to different cultural values. > > very much so, i feel. in essence: no one size fits all, and now we >see even emerging countries are beginning to wake up to the massive >over-reach and destruction of sovereignty that the U.S. has been >undertaking for decades. the key point of the fascinating and rather >long article [1] is that various small countries are viewing U.S. >diplomatic and political efforts finally for what it is: extremist >imperialist domination. unfortunately they're not the only country >that's historically manipulated entire [small] countries, but the >point is we kiiinda expect it to *be* history... not still happening >*right now*. > I'm finding this perspective quite enlightening. From inside the US, although a lot of us know we are propagandized and foreign policy is full of ulterior motives, it's not often one considers the opposite view as a citizen of another country. > now, i'm not one for just "complaining": there's enough of that crap >going on already. i very much like to also suggest actual solutions, >and in this instance there happens to be a perfect fit: look up >someone called "robert david steele". there's an extremely good >article about him in 2014 by the guardian [2]. he started the "open >source intelligence" movement. a quote: > >Today’s capitalism, he argues, is inherently predatory and destructive: > >“Over the course of the last centuries, the commons was fenced, and >everything from agriculture to water was commoditised without regard >to the true cost in non-renewable resources. Human beings, who had >spent centuries evolving away from slavery, were re-commoditised by >the Industrial Era.” > >huh. how about that. someone else who recognises that "employment" >is nothing more than a rebadged, re-introduced form of slavery. don't >believe me? if you're a software engineer actually READ your >employment contract. paying particular attention to the intelligence >enslavement clauses. the ones that say that your employer owns >absolutely everything that you do, think and say. if it wasn't >enslavement, you would be REWARDED in direct proportion to the value >of the work that you provide. you don't: you get paid a quotes fair >wage quotes. fuck off if you actually want *shock horror* shares in >the company! > There's a zen-slap for me. I'm a wage-slave and so is nearly everyone around me. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
On November 3, 2016 7:48:05 AM PDT, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >look up the cpufreq page on linux-sunxi wiki. linux-sunxi wiki says in "overclocking" section that 1.2 Ghz is "rather unrealistic". Well, I'll move forward assuming the A20 card will be about as fast as my Beaglebone Black (~1 Ghz) with double the RAM. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
On October 20, 2016 2:19:52 PM PDT, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> guessing it will run well on the EOMA68-A20 with it's 1.2 GHz. > >Last I checked the A20 only goes up to 960MHz or so: > >% cat >/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies >144000 312000 528000 72 864000 912000 96 >% I must have misunderstood, then. The Crowdsupply page and other pages rate the A20 at 1.2 Ghz -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
On October 19, 2016 11:17:00 PM PDT, FaTony wrote: >> Maybe try PrBoom? IIRC that's what Rockbox's Doom port is based on, >and >> that runs on MP3 players with 40 or 50MHz ARM CPUs. > >There's Prboom-plus in the official Debian repository. Yeah, there it is. I just ran it smoothly on my Beaglebone Black (1 GHz). I've yet to try PrBoom on my Raspberry Pi B+ (700 MHz), but I'm guessing it will run well on the EOMA68-A20 with it's 1.2 GHz. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
On October 19, 2016 11:35:17 AM PDT, Benson Mitchell wrote: >AFAIK, Freedoom is just a BSD-licensed IWAD (i.e. game content) that >can be >used instead of the proprietary IWAD with any number of source ports of >the >Doom engine. And since these source ports vary widely in the number of >additional features and capabilities bolted on, it may be a question of >which source port you're using. > >I haven't messed with Doom on anything below 1GHz for some years, so I >don't have any specific recommendations for lightweight/efficient >source >ports, but you might try several and see if it makes a difference. Correct. I don't know why I just said "Freedoom". I've tried Freedoom with Vavoom and something called "Chocolate Doom" and was rather disappointed... maybe I should pick up the search again. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
On October 18, 2016 5:28:42 AM PDT, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >the really *really* nice thing about descent is that it actually works >well on 320x240 on 16mhz 386s all the way up to modern systems. I almost find this incredible! Considering games like Doom ran on a few Mhz and NO 3D acceleration, I expect them to run comfortably on modern 1 Ghz computers, but in my experience Freedoom runs slow as a snail on an ARM board. Is there some factor I'm missing? Perhaps the SDL abstraction layer gets in the way of fast direct-architecture code? I'm tempted to see about compiling that free Descent source and see what you mean. I have the data files in my possession somewhere. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
On October 15, 2016 12:47:14 PM PDT, GaCuest wrote: >Yes, our idea is to support all that. That's great to hear. >As I said above, it may be interesting to launch a EOMA68-A20 >completely libre with this type of software. Without proprietary >drivers for the GPU to be completely free. If the ZEOMA will "just plug it in" and work with an EOMA68-A20 cards on offer, meaning the drivers provided by the OS can run the screen, wi-fi, etc., then I think it is already over half-way done! For instance, I'd just need to install the Xorg Joystick driver or make it automatically launch EmulationStation. EmulationStation can be configured to launch any libre games practicable. I've been experimenting with Zeroinstall for fetching games or versions that are not in repos. Solarwolf runs well on as low as 1 Ghz processors without any 3D acceleration. Freedink is probably a good candidate, too. I haven't tried many libre games on low-powered hardware so this list needs expansion. Also, games with no built-in joystick support will require extra accommodations. Of course, someone would need to put in the work to derive a pre-configured gaming ISO from a Debian or Parabola base. This could be sold on eoma68 cards or put on a "specially prepared" SD card to flash eoma cards. If anyone can offer some expertise in this area, please chime in. P.S. I'd like to thank and welcome GaCuest to this mailing list. I had heard the ubrewit-zeoma project was a little hard to reach. Collaboration between these two communities should be beneficial. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
On October 16, 2016 6:16:24 AM PDT, Stefan Monnier wrote: >FWIW, any distribution which comes with a browser that doesn't do >something like LibreJS suffers from the same problem (or worse): users >will download and run proprietary software without even being aware >of it just by going to their favorite web sites. This is true, although programs delivered via non-free Javascript are so ubiquitous on the web and the demand for them so high the general practice seems to be just letting the user have this Javascript as it is expected behavior. I don't think much can be done except trying to push a user toward a js-off experience, but letting them turn it on easily when their website doesn't work. This is far from a comprehensive solution though. Is this the thread about the handheld device? Talk about getting off-topic! :-P -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
A game console based on emulators and ports can be really interesting even before adding non-free software. For starters, you may be able to find public domain or even free software ROM for most of the emulators, and they could even be shipped with the device operating system as part of the free software included! Users looking for a device to play classic games will of course download what they want, but that base set of games will be there, pre-installed, free, and legal. It would take some searching and verification, but even a handful of free ROM would be good. [PD Roms](http://pdroms.de/) [Community Software]( https://archive.org/details/open_source_software) RetroPie has an interesting project they call [Ports](https://github.com/retropie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Ports). Some of the engines and games they are porting are free software. Lastly, it could be really helpful to provide a platform target for free software games developers. I'd guess that a device that can run/test games written in [Godot](https://godotengine.org/), [Löve](https://love2d.org/), or [Pygame](http://www.pygame.org/) would be rather attractive. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
A game console based on emulators and ports can be really interesting even before adding non-free software. For starters, you may be able to find public domain or even free software ROM for most of the emulators, and they could even be shipped with the device operating system as part of the free software included! Users looking for a device to play classic games will of course download what they want, but that base set of games will be there, pre-installed, free, and legal. It would take some searching and verification, but even a handful of free ROM would be good. [PD Roms](http://pdroms.de/) [Community Software]( https://archive.org/details/open_source_software) RetroPie has an interesting project they call [Ports](https://github.com/retropie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Ports). Some of the engines and games they are porting are free software. Lastly, it could be really helpful to provide a platform target for free software games developers. I'd guess that a device that can run/test games written in [Godot](https://godotengine.org/), [Löve](https://love2d.org/), or [Pygame](http://www.pygame.org/) would be rather attractive. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Block Diagram - ZEOMA - Handheld Games Console
A game console based on emulators and ports can be really interesting even before adding non-free software. For starters, you may be able to find public domain or even free software ROM for most of the emulators, and they could even be shipped with the device operating system as part of the free software included! Users looking for a device to play classic games will of course download what they want, but that base set of games will be there, pre-installed, free, and legal. [PD Roms](http://pdroms.de/) [Community Software]( https://archive.org/details/open_source_software) RetroPie has an interesting project they call [Ports](https://github.com/ retropie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Ports). Some of the engines and games they are porting are free software. Lastly, it could be really helpful to provide a platform target for free software games developers. I'd guess that a device that can run/test games written in [Godot](https://godotengine.org/), , or Pygame would be rather attractive. -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] microdesktop and eoma68-a20 new pcb revisions, pictures
On October 13, 2016 3:48:30 AM PDT, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/micro_desktop/news/Microdesktop_Rev_1.4_PCB_photos/ >http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/news/ > >briefly, mike very kindly took these photos, we're sorting out the >components to get them populated, i'll be back in shenzen on tuesday >for the rest of the 2nd 30-day china visa period, hopefully we can get >these populated, tested, and approved for 1k production run of the A20 >board and 500 for the microdesktop. > >we can then start testing and shipping, get them out to people. lots >to do... Glad to hear the ball is rolling (even if slowly and bumpy). Sending good luck vibes! -- Eric Duhamel http://www.noxbanners.net/ ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
