Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-24 Thread Robin Hanson
Alexander Tabarrok wrote: >Robin, > My model explains a negative correlation between extremity and >flexibility. You objected that correlation of *signals* would mean that >"The people who >become more confident and move from the initial consensus position >should also tend to move in the sam

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-21 Thread Alex Tabarrok
Robin, My model explains a negative correlation between extremity and flexibility. You objected that correlation of *signals* would mean that "The people who become more confident and move from the initial consensus position should also tend to move in the same direction from that consensus.

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-21 Thread Robin Hanson
William Sullivan wrote: > >Another problem is that people have to be unaware of other people's > >positions, otherwise they could update on that and then should all > >end up at the same place. > >I'm not clear why they'd have to be ignorant of other people's positions. >It seems that they could b

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-21 Thread Robin Hanson
Alexander Tabarrok wrote: > Robin then concludes "But we observe similar levels of confidence >moving both directions away from the consensus." > > The latter observation, however, is not what correlation predicts. >Correlation predicts that more people should be on one extreme than t

Re: Extremists due to strong priors? (Out of Country)

2000-07-20 Thread Shireen Pasha
I will be out of the country between July 21st and August 20th. Shireen Pasha

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-20 Thread Alex Tabarrok
Robin writes (in reference to my model explaining extremeness and firmness) "A problem with this model is that if all these people are getting signals about the same thing, their signals should be correlated. The people who become more confident and move from the initial consensus positi

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-20 Thread William Sullivan
At 02:46 PM 7/20/00 -0400, Robin Hanson wrote: >Another problem is that people have to be unaware of other people's positions, >otherwise they could update on that and then should all end up at the same >place. I'm not clear why they'd have to be ignorant of other people's positions. It seems tha

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-20 Thread Robin Hanson
Alexander Tabarrok wrote: >Consider the following model. If you are ignorant it's reasonable to adopt >what you perceive as the consensus view but unreasonable to hold that view >firmly ... If you investigate the issue (you receive a series of signals) >it may turn out that the consensus view app

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-20 Thread Alex Tabarrok
Consider the following model. If you are ignorant it's reasonable to adopt what you perceive as the consensus view but unreasonable to hold that view firmly since you haven't investigated the issue in any depth. If you investigate the issue (you receive a series of signals) it ma

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-20 Thread Robin Hanson
Fred Foldvary wrote: > > It seems you posit that people who reason will be inflexible, and those > > who don't will be flexible and go with the crowd, which won't happen to > > be where reason would lead. But under this theory, how do you explain that > > the people on the *other* side from you o

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-20 Thread Fred Foldvary
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Robin Hanson wrote: > It seems you posit that people who reason will be inflexible, and those > who don't will be flexible and go with the crowd, which won't happen to > be where reason would lead. But under this theory, how do you explain that > the people on the *other* si

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-20 Thread Edward Dodson
Ed Dodson responding... Robin Hanson wrote: > Ed Dodson wrote: > >I admit to being extreme only in my defense of objectively-derived > >principle. ...extreme in belief or action without objectivity ... > >most inflexibile ... are those who are so far beyond objectivity > >as never to be confused

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-19 Thread Francois-Rene Rideau
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 05:40:45PM -0400, Robin Hanson wrote: > That explains a correlation between thinking and inflexibility, but > not between extremism and inflexibility. > Those whose thinking do not lead to an inflexibility against errors they found and recognized as such will not progress.

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-19 Thread Robin Hanson
I wrote: > Since some people on this list might be considered extremists, > what do you think of this explanation? Are you extreme > because you are inflexible? Chris Rasch wrote: >Regarding the issue of flexibility, one explanation is that someone who >has spent a lot of time thinking about

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-19 Thread Fred Foldvary
> From: Robin Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Since some people on this list might be considered extremists, > what do you think of this explanation? Are you extreme > because you are inflexible? No, I am inflexible because I am extreme. "Extreme" is relative, and means extremely far from the av

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-19 Thread Chris Rasch
Robin Hanson wrote: > The June 2000 American Economic Review has an article by > Blomberg & Harrington, "A Theory of Rigid Extremists and > Flexible Moderates with an Application to the U.S. Congress". > > They offer data showing a correlation between political > extremism and inflexibility in c

Re: Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-19 Thread Edward Dodson
Ed Dodson responding... Robin Hanson wrote: > > > Since some people on this list might be considered extremists, > what do you think of this explanation? Are you extreme > because you are inflexible? > Hmmm. I admit to being extreme only in my defense of objectively-derived principle. Eric Ho

Extremists due to strong priors?

2000-07-19 Thread Robin Hanson
The June 2000 American Economic Review has an article by Blomberg & Harrington, "A Theory of Rigid Extremists and Flexible Moderates with an Application to the U.S. Congress". They offer data showing a correlation between political extremism and inflexibility in changing one's opinions. They ref