Re: ITSM 8 Unpatched Version Install

2012-10-20 Thread rpnampa...@gmail.com
ITSM 7604sp4 took about 4 hr for me on windows and oracle Prasad (832)-421-1128 On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bhupesh Gupta wrote: > Hi Friends - > > How long does an ITSM installation take when all modules are selected at one > go? > > For me , its 21 hours and installation is still going o

Re: ITSM 8 Unpatched Version Install

2012-10-20 Thread Joshua Taylor
I had AR, Atrium, ITSM, SLM, and SRM all installed in about 7 hours. For ITSM I selected all 5 modules to install at once and it took about 2 hours. I was using Windows 2008 64 bit. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.OR

ITSM 8 Unpatched Version Install

2012-10-20 Thread Bhupesh Gupta
Hi Friends - How long does an ITSM installation take when all modules are selected at one go? For me , its 21 hours and installation is still going on? As an work-around my colleagues tried to install module by module which seems to take less time. Kindly Suggest. Is there any docs, what BMC

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Saji Philip
Oracle or Dell for me... HP is struggling so I don't they will be major players. IBM would not be interested. They are trying to get away from applications/software. IMHO I think BMC will sell of the Remedy side and concentrate on Cloud and infrastructure management. Offering on going services o

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Howard Richter
My two cents is that Oracle will be the buyer of BMC or parts of it one day. I always felt that that would be a great match and bring the ARsystem up to the next level. I might not be right and it's just my two cents, but you never know. Howard -Original Message- From: Action Request S

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread patchsk
If you see recent Gartner's chart, no body needs to tell BMC that they cannot enjoy the comfortzone they used to because 1. Their competitors are closing on and looking attractive. 2. They are eating their own dog food by the way of remedy ondemand. Now they will experience the same challeng

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
John, At WWRUG, Jay Shankar, VP of support was there with her team of directors, managers, etc. from support as well as engineering to hold a session on customer support. They did a good job of explaining how they were improving support models and introducing new interfaces and improving their curr

Re: WWRUG And BMC Support

2012-10-20 Thread Rick Cook
I attended that morning session. They laid out some improvements they have made and listened to some we thought they still needed. Things are far from perfect, but they have been far worse, and seem to be trending well. Rick On Oct 20, 2012 2:16 PM, "Dave Shellman" wrote: > Yes Jay Shankar and

Re: WWRUG And BMC Support

2012-10-20 Thread Dave Shellman
Yes Jay Shankar and a number of her folks were there at Evening with Engineering as well as a breakfast session for those that wanted to talk to the Support Management team. Dave On Oct 20, 2012, at 4:09 PM, "John Baker" wrote: > The entire HP vs BMC thing is entirely subjective. JSS came wi

WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread John Baker
The entire HP vs BMC thing is entirely subjective. JSS came within an inch of an SSO Plugin sale in 2010 only to be scuppered by the organisation cancelling the BMC project. And I've spoken to a couple HP customers complaining about HP support and asking if BMC were as bad. I pointed them at ar

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Rick Cook
I also spoke to someone who witnessed something very similar at another very large company whose name you would all know. They were basically given hardware and software by HP, and a few years later, all that "free" stuff has cost them plenty, and they are still using the Remedy systems HP was sup

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Dave Shellman
John, I also encourage you to join us next year at WWRUG. At the conferences I have learned a lot about the software. Over the years I have meet many of the individuals that post to the ARS List. it's become like a big family reunion when not in sessions. It would be great to be able to

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Rick Cook
John, up until v8, I would agree with you about BMC SRM being the weaker of the two. But not now. BMC completely rebuilt it, and the customer feedback so far is very positive. In fact, having just spent the week at WWRUG seeing the new version of ITSM, BMC has raised the bar again. I encourage

WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread John Baker
Patrick: I guess it depends on what you mean by 'replace'. Different products have different functionality. HP SRC is far slicker than BMC SRM and seems perfectly adequate in the role of allowing a user to request a service. Rick: I think you're probably correct in terms of integration at the

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Patrick Zandi
I have a friend who works for a very big pharmaceutical company. That has been working for 5 years to get Hp SRA to replace a remedy implementation : it just cannot be done ! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:44, Rick Cook wrote: > ** > HP's ITSM products also aren't integrated with o

Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread Rick Cook
HP's ITSM products also aren't integrated with one another nearly as seamlessly as BMC's, making implementation more time consuming and problematic, and even relatively simple customizations complicate it further. I have seen enough of both, and a few others, to say with confidence that BMC is th

WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors

2012-10-20 Thread John Baker
HP: They have a good ITSM product, and it doesn't require 4GB of RAM and 20 minutes to start, so if BMC ended up at HP then AR System may bite the bullet. And on that basis, it doesn't seem a likely option. ___ UNSUBSCR