Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
I agree that you must avoid EXTERNAL. I only use it at filters when adding some configurable business rule and I want to give complete freedom to the user to define when to execute the rule. For instance we have a priority control at HPD:Help Desk. Check if the incidence agrees with some

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi, That is definitely a good use for it. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se I agree that you must avoid EXTERNAL. I only use it at filters when adding some configurable business rule and I want to give complete freedom to the user to define when to execute the rule. For

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Campbell, Paul (Paul)
Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:20 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If Hi, That is definitely a good use for it. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se I agree that you must avoid EXTERNAL. I only use it at filters when adding

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
'. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Campbell, Paul (Paul) Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:56 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If We use External for Table field and Set Field

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Campbell, Paul (Paul)
, September 07, 2012 11:10 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If Paul, I once built a system that was so data driven that we virtually never needed to modify code on, and it became to the point where they started designating which of our data changes required change tickets

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
will work or not :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Campbell, Paul (Paul) Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:16 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If I could see that ;) Paul Campbell

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Jose Huerta
: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Campbell, Paul (Paul) Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:16 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If I could see that ;) Paul Campbell | Development Team Lead | TSD SSBL

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
to take 'grey' into account. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:51 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If That argument is completely

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If That argument is completely false under my point of view. It doesn't matter if you are changing the data field where the external is to be executed or say that a change in workflow is just changing db data. Using the same rationale, a java

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
interested in giving it a try? Joe From: Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:41 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If ** I agree. What I really wanted to point, is that to consider what requires

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If ** I just had an interesting thought when reading this thread.. I 'wonder', if TR.Field would work on a table field qualification when used in an EXTERNAL(), IF that qualification were used on Fiter table loops... I do not have access to any system at the moment

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If I doubt itthe documentation says that it is a Filter Run-If thing -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
07, 2012 1:30 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If I doubt it too for the same reason as you cannot even use it in Push Fields If.. Might be fun to see what happens though if you tried.. Bad qualification error maybe? Joe -Original Message- From: Longwing, LJ

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
: Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 3:33 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If More than likely a Qual error, as you suggested. Same thing that happens when you put an invalid qual in your external field

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
and the DB formats in the EXTERNAL() of a filter Run-If. i.e. ‘TR.STATUS’ = “Assigned” or ‘MyField’ != ‘DB. MyField’ You can also use the Field IDs 'TR.536870923' != $\NULL$ or '536870923' != 'DB.536870923' Fred -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Nice -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If I finally got a chance to try

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-07 Thread Chintan Shah
Hi Misi, I have not tried EXTERNAL() in Filter Run-If'sbut will try it. Most of time I have ended up using EXTERNAL() in table fields and actually it has worked out really well for us.We actually have a data manager form which tracks what external call was set at what time and what

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-06 Thread Chintan Shah
I so want this functionality if it exists! :) Thanks Chintan. --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote: From: Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com Subject: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 11:13 AM

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-06 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
to follow... Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se I so want this functionality if it exists! :) Thanks Chintan. --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote: From: Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com Subject: EXTERNAL in Filter Run

EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-05 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Has anyone tried using a TR value with the EXTERNAL keyword of a filter Run-If? I.e. Say your Run-If has EXTERNAL( $zTmpQualification$ ) If zTmpQualification is 'STATUS' = Assigned then the filter will fire whenever the status is = Assigned What about if zTmpQualification is

Re: EXTERNAL in Filter Run-If

2012-09-05 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
I think it works. I used it at SLA conditions (start, stop, pause) and I think that they're implemented using EXTERNAL. Of course it won't work if used at some qualifications like the table field qualification. Regards, Jose Manuel Huerta http://theremedyforit.com/ On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at