ar.conf entries for queues/threads missing

2009-11-09 Thread Thad K Esser
**
Hello,

Today I went to update the number of
queues I'm allocating for escalations, and found out that my ar.conf file
has no entries for ANY queue! The server doesn't appear to be suffering
any performance issues right now, but I'm thinking this is a time bomb
for my next restart. Before I do anything, I'd like to
see how many queues/threads are actually running. There used to be
a utility for older versions of ARS that would tell you how many threads
were running for each queue. A couple of years ago, I tried it on
my 7.1 server and remember it not working right. Is there an updated
utility for 7.1 that someone can point me to? (any gurus out there
want to whip something up?)

ARS 7.1 patch 6 on AIX 5.3 (with a remote
Oracle 10g db)

Thanks,
Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
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Re: ar.conf entries for queues/threads missing

2009-11-09 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
ps -Lp process ID of arserverd will tell you the total number of threads in 
use by that process.  Unfortunately it does not tell you which are fast and 
list. The only way I know of to tell how many of the threads are for fast and 
list servers is to run the system with the thread log turned on from startup 
(you get 1 line for each thread started).

Fred


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**
Hello,

Today I went to update the number of queues I'm allocating for escalations, and 
found out that my ar.conf file has no entries for ANY queue!  The server 
doesn't appear to be suffering any performance issues right now, but I'm 
thinking this is a time bomb for my next restart.  Before I do anything, I'd 
like to see how many queues/threads are actually running.  There used to be a 
utility for older versions of ARS that would tell you how many threads were 
running for each queue.  A couple of years ago, I tried it on my 7.1 server and 
remember it not working right.  Is there an updated utility for 7.1 that 
someone can point me to?  (any gurus out there want to whip something up?)

ARS 7.1 patch 6 on AIX 5.3 (with a remote Oracle 10g db)

Thanks,
Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
Now... Just where did I put that cheese...?



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Re: ar.conf entries for queues/threads missing

2009-11-09 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

If you turn on API-logging, you can soon sample enough data to determine
the number of queues.

Just look at the TID and the Queue tags in the log file. TID is the
Thread ID.

You have to parse out the stuff, and remove duplicates. If you are on
unix, it is not hard! It is possible that Excel can do the same thing...

Unix/Linux (someone will probably give me a even simpler solution to this
I am sure ;-) :
cut -b 8-24,46-65 arapi.log | sort | awk '($0!=p){print;p=$0;}'

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 **
 Hello,

 Today I went to update the number of queues I'm allocating for
 escalations, and found out that my ar.conf file has no entries for ANY
 queue!  The server doesn't appear to be suffering any performance issues
 right now, but I'm thinking this is a time bomb for my next restart.
 Before I quot;doquot; anything, I'd like to see how many queues/threads
 are actually running.  There used to be a utility for older versions of
 ARS that would tell you how many threads were running for each queue.  A
 couple of years ago, I tried it on my 7.1 server and remember it not
 working right.  Is there an updated utility for 7.1 that someone can point
 me to?  (any gurus out there want to whip something up?)

 ARS 7.1 patch 6 on AIX 5.3 (with a remote Oracle 10g db)

 Thanks,
  Thad Esser
  Remedy Developer
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Re: ar.conf entries for queues/threads missing

2009-11-09 Thread Tony Worthington
Same thing has happened here.  At times, making changes to the server 
configuration via the user tool, our ar.conf would get corrupted. (7.1) 
Ours was a bit different though -- the lines would end up concatenated -- 
prefixed with the letter P.

The thread log files (if enabled) will tell you how many fast/list you're 
running but that is only written out on restart, or thread allocation.  I 
think the Server Statistics will tell you the total threads -- but not 
broken out by fast/list.

Not sure of any utilities updated for 7.x ...


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** 
Hello, 

Today I went to update the number of queues I'm allocating for 
escalations, and found out that my ar.conf file has no entries for ANY 
queue!  The server doesn't appear to be suffering any performance issues 
right now, but I'm thinking this is a time bomb for my next restart. 
Before I do anything, I'd like to see how many queues/threads are 
actually running.  There used to be a utility for older versions of ARS 
that would tell you how many threads were running for each queue.  A 
couple of years ago, I tried it on my 7.1 server and remember it not 
working right.  Is there an updated utility for 7.1 that someone can point 
me to?  (any gurus out there want to whip something up?) 

ARS 7.1 patch 6 on AIX 5.3 (with a remote Oracle 10g db) 

Thanks,
Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
Now... Just where did I put that cheese...? 
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Re: ar.conf entries for queues/threads missing

2009-11-09 Thread Thad K Esser
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Thanks everyone for the feedback. I
ended up using arwklga to find the number of threads. There's only
two of us that have access to ar.conf, and we're both smart enough to not
delete those lines, so its good (if not unsettling) to know that something
else caused the random changes to ar.conf.

On a side note... since I have the stats,
how close to zero do you want let your Minimum Idle Times
get before you increase the thread count?
0.0169
0.0173
0.0172
0.0172
0.0172
0.0003
0.0002
0.0173
0.0170
0.0170
0.0172
0.0173
0.0174
0.0170
0.0007
0.0169
0.0169
0.0170
0.0171
0.0169

Those seem pretty close to me.

Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
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** Same thing has
happened here. At times, making changes to the server configuration
via the user tool, our ar.conf would get corrupted. (7.1) Ours was
a bit different though -- the lines would end up concatenated -- prefixed
with the letter P. 

The thread log files (if enabled) will tell you how many fast/list you're
running but that is only written out on restart, or thread allocation.
I think the Server Statistics will tell you the total threads --
but not broken out by fast/list. 

Not sure of any utilities updated for 7.x ... 


Tony Worthington | Sr. Technical
Analyst | Kohls
Department Stores 
N56 W17000 Ridgewood Drive | Menomonee Falls, WI 53051 | office:
(262) 703-7763 | e-mail: tony.worthing...@kohls.com





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** 
Hello, 

Today I went to update the number of queues I'm allocating for escalations,
and found out that my ar.conf file has no entries for ANY queue! The
server doesn't appear to be suffering any performance issues right now,
but I'm thinking this is a time bomb for my next restart. Before
I do anything, I'd like to see how many queues/threads are
actually running. There used to be a utility for older versions of
ARS that would tell you how many threads were running for each queue. A
couple of years ago, I tried it on my 7.1 server and remember it not working
right. Is there an updated utility for 7.1 that someone can point
me to? (any gurus out there want to whip something up?)


ARS 7.1 patch 6 on AIX 5.3 (with a remote Oracle 10g db)


Thanks,
Thad Esser
Remedy Developer
Now... Just where did I put that cheese...?

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