Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-25 Thread Amit B
Hell Misi,

This nice insights. This is really helpful to me.

Regards,

Amit B

A

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky <m...@rrr.se> wrote:

> **
> Hi,
>
> One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all
> records after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.
>
> RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and
> then do transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.
>
> Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example,
> testing.
>
> I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in
> RRR|Chive, but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much
> on your own and need to do the mapping yourself.
>
> I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on
> custom fields you have added yourself automatically.
>
> I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new
> application versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an
> excel sheet of all changed data fields. This makes it easy to find
> differences and plan your data massaging.
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
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>
> April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil" <phil.murn...@windward.com
> <%22Murnane,%20phil%22%20%3cphil.murn...@windward.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's tool
> is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and data
> migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be
> accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> --Phil
> --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <
> ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after
> Upgrade
> I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require
> admin freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.
> That said, there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form
> in question on your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything
> over.
>
> Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the
> errors are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific
> package as needed.
>
> Ryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Mohamed
> Kamruzzaman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
>
> Hi Amit,
>
> Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering
> you are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to
> migrate over foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x
> . This is an ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats
> etc. and potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.
>
> We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION]
> http://www.alderstone.com/cmt) for the migration from previous ITSM
> versions to the latest, as we can migrate all modules data or a reduced set
> (including transformation and cleaning of data), depending on your
> requirements. In general we've been able to move entire data set within a
> day ensuring a smooth migration. Please let me know if you would like to
> talk about this in more detail or have any specific questions.
>
> Regards,
> Mohamed
>
> Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com +962776723269 | mohamed.kamruzzaman@
> alderstone.com | Skype: mkamruzzaman | LinkedIn: Mohamed-Kamruzzaman
>
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-25 Thread JD Hood
Misi,

The last time I installed the tool, DDM had seperate folder structures with
the instructions, mapping files, etc per version.

When you run DDM, you select the "from-to" servers and the tool fetches the
server versions - that's how it knows which mappings to use.

Link to the docs:
https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm81/Performing+the+data+migration
​
I have used DDM strictly as a bulk data pump (which it was *not* designed
for) and it is *aggravatingly* slow. Speed varies based on robustness of
the environment and per record data sizes (ie attachments in worklogs,
etc), but I was getting about 100 records every 8 to 16 or so seconds.
Pretty awful. I was only moving less than 200k records, so it was tolerable.

However, the benefit is that the tool handles cross version mappings and
worked spot on accurately - even for custom forms & fields.

Hope this helps!
-JDHood

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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-24 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
date/time field to be 
accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive. 
HTH, 

--Phil  

  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)  on behalf of Nicosia, 
Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment. That said, 
there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything over.

Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the errors 
are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific package as 
needed.

Ryan

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)] On Behalf Of Mohamed 
Kamruzzaman
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

Hi Amit,

Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering you 
are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to migrate over 
foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x . This is an 
ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats etc. and 
potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.

We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION]  
http://www.alderstone.com/cmt (http://www.alderstone.com/cmt)) for the 
migration from previous ITSM versions to the latest, as we can migrate all 
modules data or a reduced set (including transformation and cleaning of data), 
depending on your requirements. In general we've been able to move entire data 
set within a day ensuring a smooth migration. Please let me know if you would 
like to talk about this in more detail or have any specific questions.

Regards,
Mohamed

Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com (http://Alderstone.com) +962776723269 | 
mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com (mailto:mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com) 
| Skype: mkamruzzaman | LinkedIn: Mohamed-Kamruzzaman

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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-24 Thread JD Hood
ve will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and
>> then do transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.
>>
>> Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example,
>> testing.
>>
>> I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in
>> RRR|Chive, but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much
>> on your own and need to do the mapping yourself.
>>
>> I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on
>> custom fields you have added yourself automatically.
>>
>> I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new
>> application versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an
>> excel sheet of all changed data fields. This makes it easy to find
>> differences and plan your data massaging.
>>
>> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>>
>> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
>> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
>> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs
>> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se
>>
>>
>> April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil" <phil.murn...@windward.com
>> <%22Murnane,%20phil%22%20%3cphil.murn...@windward.com%3E>> wrote:
>>
>> We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's
>> tool is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and
>> data migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field
>> to be accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> --Phil
>> --
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <
>> ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration
>> after Upgrade
>> I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require
>> admin freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.
>> That said, there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form
>> in question on your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything
>> over.
>>
>> Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the
>> errors are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific
>> package as needed.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Mohamed
>> Kamruzzaman
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after
>> Upgrade
>>
>> Hi Amit,
>>
>> Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering
>> you are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to
>> migrate over foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x
>> . This is an ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats
>> etc. and potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.
>>
>> We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION]
>> http://www.alderstone.com/cmt) for the migration from previous ITSM
>> versions to the latest, as we can migrate all modules data or a reduced set
>> (including transformation and cleaning of data), depending on your
>> requirements. In general we've been able to move entire data set within a
>> day ensuring a smooth migration. Please let me know if you would like to
>> talk about this in more detail or have any specific questions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mohamed
>>
>> Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com +962776723269 |
>> mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com | Skype: mkamruzzaman | LinkedIn:
>> Mohamed-Kamruzzaman
>>
>> 
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-24 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

In other words it actually points to the .ARM file for mapping.

So how is this structured, do you get a set of config/mapping files for each 
supported version transition?

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2011)

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April 24, 2017 10:01 AM, "Jarl Grøneng"  wrote:

** 
Hi 
This is a DDM instruction file, and you can see that the field mapping using an 
import-tool format. 
PASS_QUALIFICATION
Regards, 
Jarl  
2017-04-20 14:48 GMT+02:00 Misi Mladoniczky :

 **
Hi,

So RRR|Chive works in a similar way, where matching ids are the default, 
regardless if it is a custom field or not. Fields can then be mapped/skipped 
specifically.

It sounds like a simple thing to generate rrrchive-config-files based on the 
mapping-files from DDM!? Any chanse of supplying me with a few DDM-config-files 
to allow me to check how much work it would take?

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2011)

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April 20, 2017 1:49 PM, "JD Hood"  wrote:

**As for custom fields, the in the 7.x version, the default DDM mapping was 
based on matching field IDs, unless a different mapping was specified. So as 
long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems, the data would 
migrate correctly.

So, with DDM migrating between two forms, it would map based on matching field 
IDs for all fields that were not mapped specifically. So if you looked at the 
mappings for the specifically mapped fields, it only listed the odd-ball fields 
that needed to be mapped because their ID's differed (presumably due to version 
changes). As long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems 
(or if you manually edited the DDM mapping to include the custom fields if the 
ID's differed), the data would migrate correctly.
Biggest issue I had with DDM is that it was slow, Slow, SLOOOW. 
Thanks, 
-JDHood 
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Vinod Gaidhani  wrote:
 ** 
Thanks Misi, seems to be good and overcomes shortcomings of DDM.

Vinod.  
On 20-Apr-2017, at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky  wrote: 
**
Hi,

One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all records 
after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.

RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and then do 
transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.

Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example, 
testing.

I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in RRR|Chive, 
but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much on your own and 
need to do the mapping yourself.

I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on 
custom fields you have added yourself automatically.

I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new application 
versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an excel sheet of all 
changed data fields. This makes it easy to find differences and plan your data 
massaging.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (http://www.rrr.se) (ARSList MVP 
2011)

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April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil"  wrote:
We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's 
tool is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and 
data migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be 
accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive. 
HTH, 

--Phil  

  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)  on behalf of Nicosia, 
Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment. That said, 
there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
your

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-24 Thread Jarl Grøneng
Hi

This is a DDM instruction file, and you can see that the field mapping
using an import-tool format.

 
   
PASS_QUALIFICATION

 
   


   
  


Regards,
Jarl

2017-04-20 14:48 GMT+02:00 Misi Mladoniczky <m...@rrr.se>:

> **
> Hi,
>
> So RRR|Chive works in a similar way, where matching ids are the default,
> regardless if it is a custom field or not. Fields can then be
> mapped/skipped specifically.
>
> It sounds like a simple thing to generate rrrchive-config-files based on
> the mapping-files from DDM!? Any chanse of supplying me with a few
> DDM-config-files to allow me to check how much work it would take?
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se
>
>
> April 20, 2017 1:49 PM, "JD Hood" <hood...@gmail.com
> <%22jd%20hood%22%20%3chood...@gmail.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> **
> As for custom fields, the in the 7.x version, the default DDM mapping was
> based on matching field IDs, unless a different mapping was specified. So
> as long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems, the
> data would migrate correctly.
>
> So, with DDM migrating between two forms, it would map based on matching
> field IDs for all fields that were not mapped specifically. So if you
> looked at the mappings for the specifically mapped fields, it only listed
> the odd-ball fields that needed to be mapped because their ID's differed
> (presumably due to version changes). As long as custom fields had the same
> field ID between the systems (or if you manually edited the DDM mapping to
> include the custom fields if the ID's differed), the data would migrate
> correctly.
> Biggest issue I had with DDM is that it was slow, Slow, SLOOOW.
> Thanks,
> -JDHood
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Vinod Gaidhani <vinod.gaidh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> **
> Thanks Misi, seems to be good and overcomes shortcomings of DDM.
>
> Vinod.
>
> On 20-Apr-2017, at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky <m...@rrr.se> wrote:
>
> **
> Hi,
>
> One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all
> records after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.
>
> RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and
> then do transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.
>
> Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example,
> testing.
>
> I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in
> RRR|Chive, but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much
> on your own and need to do the mapping yourself.
>
> I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on
> custom fields you have added yourself automatically.
>
> I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new
> application versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an
> excel sheet of all changed data fields. This makes it easy to find
> differences and plan your data massaging.
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se
>
>
> April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil" <phil.murn...@windward.com
> <%22Murnane,%20phil%22%20%3cphil.murn...@windward.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's tool
> is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and data
> migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be
> accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> --Phil
> ------
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <
> ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after
> Upgrade
> I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require
> admin freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.
> That said, there are ways to get ar

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-20 Thread JD Hood
I currently lack access to a system - but I think DDM installs with
Migrator?

-JDHood

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Misi Mladoniczky <m...@rrr.se> wrote:

> **
> Hi,
>
> So RRR|Chive works in a similar way, where matching ids are the default,
> regardless if it is a custom field or not. Fields can then be
> mapped/skipped specifically.
>
> It sounds like a simple thing to generate rrrchive-config-files based on
> the mapping-files from DDM!? Any chanse of supplying me with a few
> DDM-config-files to allow me to check how much work it would take?
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
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>
>
> April 20, 2017 1:49 PM, "JD Hood" <hood...@gmail.com
> <%22jd%20hood%22%20%3chood...@gmail.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> **
> As for custom fields, the in the 7.x version, the default DDM mapping was
> based on matching field IDs, unless a different mapping was specified. So
> as long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems, the
> data would migrate correctly.
>
> So, with DDM migrating between two forms, it would map based on matching
> field IDs for all fields that were not mapped specifically. So if you
> looked at the mappings for the specifically mapped fields, it only listed
> the odd-ball fields that needed to be mapped because their ID's differed
> (presumably due to version changes). As long as custom fields had the same
> field ID between the systems (or if you manually edited the DDM mapping to
> include the custom fields if the ID's differed), the data would migrate
> correctly.
> Biggest issue I had with DDM is that it was slow, Slow, SLOOOW.
> Thanks,
> -JDHood
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Vinod Gaidhani <vinod.gaidh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> **
> Thanks Misi, seems to be good and overcomes shortcomings of DDM.
>
> Vinod.
>
> On 20-Apr-2017, at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky <m...@rrr.se> wrote:
>
> **
> Hi,
>
> One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all
> records after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.
>
> RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and
> then do transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.
>
> Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example,
> testing.
>
> I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in
> RRR|Chive, but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much
> on your own and need to do the mapping yourself.
>
> I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on
> custom fields you have added yourself automatically.
>
> I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new
> application versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an
> excel sheet of all changed data fields. This makes it easy to find
> differences and plan your data massaging.
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
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>
> April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil" <phil.murn...@windward.com
> <%22Murnane,%20phil%22%20%3cphil.murn...@windward.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's tool
> is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and data
> migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be
> accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> --Phil
> ------
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <
> ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after
> Upgrade
> I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require
> admin freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.
> That said, there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form
> in question on your target server and telling 

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-20 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

So RRR|Chive works in a similar way, where matching ids are the default, 
regardless if it is a custom field or not. Fields can then be mapped/skipped 
specifically.

It sounds like a simple thing to generate rrrchive-config-files based on the 
mapping-files from DDM!? Any chanse of supplying me with a few DDM-config-files 
to allow me to check how much work it would take?

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (http://www.rrr.se) (ARSList MVP 
2011)

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April 20, 2017 1:49 PM, "JD Hood"  wrote:

**As for custom fields, the in the 7.x version, the default DDM mapping was 
based on matching field IDs, unless a different mapping was specified. So as 
long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems, the data would 
migrate correctly.

So, with DDM migrating between two forms, it would map based on matching field 
IDs for all fields that were not mapped specifically. So if you looked at the 
mappings for the specifically mapped fields, it only listed the odd-ball fields 
that needed to be mapped because their ID's differed (presumably due to version 
changes). As long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems 
(or if you manually edited the DDM mapping to include the custom fields if the 
ID's differed), the data would migrate correctly.
Biggest issue I had with DDM is that it was slow, Slow, SLOOOW. 
Thanks, 
-JDHood 
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Vinod Gaidhani  wrote:

 ** 
Thanks Misi, seems to be good and overcomes shortcomings of DDM.

Vinod.  
On 20-Apr-2017, at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky  wrote:
**
Hi,

One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all records 
after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.

RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and then do 
transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.

Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example, 
testing.

I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in RRR|Chive, 
but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much on your own and 
need to do the mapping yourself.

I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on 
custom fields you have added yourself automatically.

I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new application 
versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an excel sheet of all 
changed data fields. This makes it easy to find differences and plan your data 
massaging.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (http://www.rrr.se) (ARSList MVP 
2011)

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April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil"  wrote:
We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's 
tool is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and 
data migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be 
accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive. 
HTH, 

--Phil  

  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)  on behalf of Nicosia, 
Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment. That said, 
there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything over.

Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the errors 
are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific package as 
needed.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)] On Behalf Of Mohamed 
Kamruzzaman
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

Hi Amit,

Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering you 
are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to migrate over 
foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x . This is an 
ideal t

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-20 Thread JD Hood
As for custom fields, the in the 7.x version, the default DDM mapping was
based on matching field IDs, unless a different mapping was specified. So
as long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems, the
data would migrate correctly.

So, with DDM migrating between two forms, it would map based on matching
field IDs for all fields that were not mapped specifically. So if you
looked at the mappings for the specifically mapped fields, it only listed
the odd-ball fields that needed to be mapped because their ID's differed
(presumably due to version changes). As long as custom fields had the same
field ID between the systems (or if you manually edited the DDM mapping to
include the custom fields if the ID's differed), the data would migrate
correctly.

Biggest issue I had with DDM is that it was slow, Slow, SLOOOW.

Thanks,
-JDHood



On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Vinod Gaidhani <vinod.gaidh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> **
> Thanks Misi, seems to be good and overcomes shortcomings of DDM.
>
> Vinod.
>
> On 20-Apr-2017, at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky <m...@rrr.se> wrote:
>
> **
> Hi,
>
> One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all
> records after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.
>
> RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and
> then do transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.
>
> Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example,
> testing.
>
> I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in
> RRR|Chive, but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much
> on your own and need to do the mapping yourself.
>
> I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on
> custom fields you have added yourself automatically.
>
> I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new
> application versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an
> excel sheet of all changed data fields. This makes it easy to find
> differences and plan your data massaging.
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se
>
>
> April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil" <phil.murn...@windward.com
> <%22Murnane,%20phil%22%20%3cphil.murn...@windward.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's tool
> is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and data
> migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be
> accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> --Phil
> --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <
> ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after
> Upgrade
> I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require
> admin freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.
> That said, there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form
> in question on your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything
> over.
>
> Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the
> errors are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific
> package as needed.
>
> Ryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Mohamed
> Kamruzzaman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
>
> Hi Amit,
>
> Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering
> you are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to
> migrate over foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x
> . This is an ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats
> etc. and potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.
>
> We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION]
> http://www.alderstone.com/cmt) for the migration from previous ITSM
> versions to the latest, as we can migrate all modules data or a reduced set
> (inc

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-20 Thread Vinod Gaidhani
Thanks Misi, seems to be good and overcomes shortcomings of DDM.

Vinod.

> On 20-Apr-2017, at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky <m...@rrr.se> wrote:
> 
> **
> Hi,
> 
> One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all 
> records after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.
> 
> RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and then 
> do transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.
> 
> Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example, 
> testing.
> 
> I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in 
> RRR|Chive, but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much on 
> your own and need to do the mapping yourself.
> 
> I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on 
> custom fields you have added yourself automatically.
> 
> I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new application 
> versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an excel sheet of 
> all changed data fields. This makes it easy to find differences and plan your 
> data massaging.
> 
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
> 
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se
> 
> 
> April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil" <phil.murn...@windward.com> wrote:
> We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's tool is 
> scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and data 
> migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be 
> accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.
> 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> --Phil
> 
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on 
> behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after 
> Upgrade
> I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
> freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment. That said, 
> there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
> your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything over.
> 
> Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the 
> errors are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific 
> package as needed.
> 
> Ryan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mohamed Kamruzzaman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
> 
> Hi Amit,
> 
> Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering you 
> are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to migrate 
> over foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x . This is 
> an ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats etc. and 
> potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.
> 
> We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION] 
> http://www.alderstone.com/cmt) for the migration from previous ITSM versions 
> to the latest, as we can migrate all modules data or a reduced set (including 
> transformation and cleaning of data), depending on your requirements. In 
> general we've been able to move entire data set within a day ensuring a 
> smooth migration. Please let me know if you would like to talk about this in 
> more detail or have any specific questions.
> 
> Regards,
> Mohamed
> 
> Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com +962776723269 | 
> mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com | Skype: mkamruzzaman | LinkedIn: 
> Mohamed-Kamruzzaman
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-20 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all records 
after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.

RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and then do 
transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.

Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example, 
testing.

I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in RRR|Chive, 
but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much on your own and 
need to do the mapping yourself.

I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on 
custom fields you have added yourself automatically.

I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new application 
versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an excel sheet of all 
changed data fields. This makes it easy to find differences and plan your data 
massaging.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (http://www.rrr.se) (ARSList MVP 
2011)

Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
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April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil"  wrote:
We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's 
tool is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and 
data migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be 
accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive. 
HTH, 

--Phil  

  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)  on behalf of Nicosia, 
Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment. That said, 
there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything over.

Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the errors 
are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific package as 
needed.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)] On Behalf Of Mohamed 
Kamruzzaman
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

Hi Amit,

Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering you 
are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to migrate over 
foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x . This is an 
ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats etc. and 
potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.

We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION]  
http://www.alderstone.com/cmt (http://www.alderstone.com/cmt)) for the 
migration from previous ITSM versions to the latest, as we can migrate all 
modules data or a reduced set (including transformation and cleaning of data), 
depending on your requirements. In general we've been able to move entire data 
set within a day ensuring a smooth migration. Please let me know if you would 
like to talk about this in more detail or have any specific questions.

Regards,
Mohamed

Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com +962776723269 | 
mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com (mailto:mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com) 
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-19 Thread LJ LongWing
I would use each in a different situation.

RRRChive: I would use when I have two identical systems that I'm migrating
data between (prod->dev for example)

DDM: Useful for doing the migration from version X to version X+1it
contains all of the mappings to move data between versions when doing
staged upgrades.



On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Murnane, Phil <phil.murn...@windward.com>
wrote:

> **
>
> We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects.  Misi's
> tool is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM.  DDM can schedule code
> and data migrations.  Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time
> field to be accurate.  Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> --Phil
> --
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <
> ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after
> Upgrade
>
> I have to disagree.  We used DDM with great success but it does require
> admin freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.
> That said, there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form
> in question on your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything
> over.
>
> Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the
> errors are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific
> package as needed.
>
> Ryan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Mohamed
> Kamruzzaman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
>
> Hi Amit,
>
> Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering
> you are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to
> migrate over foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x
> . This is an ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats
> etc. and potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.
>
> We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION]
> http://www.alderstone.com/cmt) for the migration from previous ITSM
> versions to the latest, as we can migrate all modules data or a reduced set
> (including transformation and cleaning of data), depending on your
> requirements. In general we've been able to move entire data set within a
> day ensuring a smooth migration. Please let me know if you would like to
> talk about this in more detail or have any specific questions.
>
> Regards,
> Mohamed
>
> Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com +962776723269 <+962%207%207672%203269>
> | mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com | Skype: mkamruzzaman | LinkedIn:
> Mohamed-Kamruzzaman
>
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-19 Thread Murnane, Phil
We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects.  Misi's tool is 
scriptable and very fast compared to DDM.  DDM can schedule code and data 
migrations.  Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be 
accurate.  Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive.

HTH,

--Phil


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on 
behalf of Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ <ryan.nicosia@socom.mil>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

I have to disagree.  We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.  That said, 
there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything over.

Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the errors 
are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific package as 
needed.

Ryan

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mohamed Kamruzzaman
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

Hi Amit,

Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering you 
are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to migrate over 
foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x . This is an 
ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats etc. and 
potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.

We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION] 
http://www.alderstone.com/cmt) for the migration from previous ITSM versions to 
the latest, as we can migrate all modules data or a reduced set (including 
transformation and cleaning of data), depending on your requirements. In 
general we've been able to move entire data set within a day ensuring a smooth 
migration. Please let me know if you would like to talk about this in more 
detail or have any specific questions.

Regards,
Mohamed

Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com +962776723269 | 
mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com | Skype: mkamruzzaman | LinkedIn: 
Mohamed-Kamruzzaman

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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

2017-04-19 Thread Nicosia, Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ
I have to disagree.  We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment.  That said, 
there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything over.

Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the errors 
are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific package as 
needed.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mohamed Kamruzzaman
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

Hi Amit,

Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering you 
are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to migrate over 
foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x . This is an 
ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats etc. and 
potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need. 
 
We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION] 
http://www.alderstone.com/cmt) for the migration from previous ITSM versions to 
the latest, as we can migrate all modules data or a reduced set (including 
transformation and cleaning of data), depending on your requirements. In 
general we've been able to move entire data set within a day ensuring a smooth 
migration. Please let me know if you would like to talk about this in more 
detail or have any specific questions.

Regards,
Mohamed

Mohamed Kamruzzaman. Alderstone.com +962776723269 | 
mohamed.kamruzza...@alderstone.com | Skype: mkamruzzaman | LinkedIn: 
Mohamed-Kamruzzaman

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