Re: [Assam] Critical Media people : Osama to Deepa Mehta --ToughLove

2006-05-03 Thread Barua25
Umesh: This ban on critism does not work for India. Do you know why? India is no longer a child, she is an old lady who is abusing her children very badly. She need to be criticised strongly. We need more tough girls like Deepa Mehta. RB - Original Message - From: umesh

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFu At 1:21 AM +0100 5/4/06, umesh sharma wrote: 50% of seats in educational institutions run by minorities are reserved for members of their own faith. *** Tsk, tsk! How unfair to the majority! My heart bleeds :-)!  Govt cannot int

[Assam] Suffering of the Widows

2006-05-03 Thread Himendra Thakur
    Dear Ram,   I congratulate you for your open views. There are 33 million widows in India. Majority of them live below animal level. My cousin Mamoni (Dr.Mamoni Goswami) told me about the observations she made in Brindaban. What about the property rights of a widow in her marital home &/

Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or otherwise

2006-05-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
I just read the write-up on "Water" and Deepa Mehta in the NYT.   I think Umesh you are being way too sensitive. Film produces/directors and authors usually have the leeway in portraying as they see the world. They often make us see things that a community or a country does not or just ignores. In

Re: [Assam] Critical Media people : Osama to Deepa Mehta --Tough Love

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Deepa Mehta seems to be an advocate of "Tough Love" to reform/educate Hindu male mindset - thru her ever critical films. It can backfire. See this article about Ban on Criticism   http://www.boston.com/yourlife/family/articles/2005/12/22/criticism_can_eat_away_at_a_youths_self_worth/ umesh sharm

Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism-- criticism and Mother Teresa

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Ram-da,   I think you are right about the good thing about media people highlighting the plight of widows and other oppressed people. However, the main grouse which many have ( I read reports earlier in Indian newspapers) is that the movie depicts ALL widows in India of Hindu faith --- as sexuall

[Assam] Critical Media people : Osama to Deepa Mehta

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Hi,   I was trying to recall the poem which was printed in the first admission brochure of Jaipur School more than 25 years ago in 1979. The first line shows us why constant criticism is bad for anyone . Any teacher (reformer) who is only criticising and never praising will raise children (or soc

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
50% of seats in educational institutions run by minorities are reserved for members of their own faith. Govt cannot interfere in institutions run by minorities -- cannot enforce reservation for Dalits in them, cannot dictate rules -unlike in secualr or Hindu run ones .  Though linguistic and religi

Re: [Assam] Fonts in Sadin

2006-05-03 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
Hi Barua: After downloading the font, keep that screen minimized - NOT closed. Otherwise it may  go back to showing the gibberish again. From: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Subject: [Assam] Fonts in SadinDate: Wed, 3 May 2006 13:26:25 -0500 You can go through it in SADIN's internet edit

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFu >Religious minorities have special rights in India as per Indian constitution. *** Really? What rights do the minority religions have that the majority religion/s are deprived of? At 10:53 PM +0100 5/3/06, umesh sharma wrot

Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or otherwise

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da,   You missed the point.   I wrote: I take my own case - while I was in India I did not know many realities existing in US etc . But after coming to US I started commenting about them - and then a member of my mailing list got angry that if you did not like USA why did you come here.

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Religious minorities have special rights in India as per Indian constitution. Period.   Law favors their views. Whether it is about reservation in admissions in educational institutions or films hurting religous sentiments - minorities have a special status.   Once you correct that imbalance i

[Assam] Ed Wk/Nat. Geo - World Culture Gap for US scholars

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/roper2006/findings.html for survey deatils   Published: May 2, 2006 Young Adults Ill-Informed About the People, Places, and Cultures of the World, Report Says By Kathleen Kennedy Manzo Washington http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2006/05/02/34geog_web.h

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
Good response, Ram! Thanks RB - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: Rajen Barua Cc: assam@assamnet.org ; Chan Mahanta Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ? If I am not mistaken, this a

Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or otherwise

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
>I haven't seen any effforts by Deepa Mehta to highlight any good points about Hindusim at all.   Why you have to depend on Deepa Mehta to high light the goods of Hinduism. Are there no other Hindus who can do that? Or Deepa mehta have some special; power? RB - Original Message -

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ? Ram: >>I know the Indian SC does a whole lot more: Some for the good. And others in clear >contravention of democratic norms. *** The Indian SC has taken up upon itself ( go look up its website) to take up issues that go beyond interpret

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
My question then is well why then the Hindus did not protest against the film, like the Kerela Christians did? Where is the protest to ban the film? Why the Hindus did not go to court to stop the film? And if there was why it failed? Don't say the Muslims and the Christians demanded to see

Re: [Assam] March 2006 issue of Newsletter - weblink

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
In March issue the article by Ayan is very interesting . He wrote pretty well for a grade four student.   Umesh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone,We are going to publish the April issue of the newsletter within a week. I am writing this email soliciting unpublished articles on any topic th

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Barua,   >I have observed that it is a characteristics of the Desis, they like to be ruled by >somebody. They actually do not believe in the democratic principle of 'government >by the people'.   Thats nice - and when did we NRI/NRA  'God's gifts to Desis' manage to extricate ourselves from

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da   >I know the Indian SC does a whole lot more: Some for the good. And others in clear >contravention of democratic norms.   Thats a blanket statement. Are you saying that the SC is 'legislating from the bench' specially when some rulings don't go in ones favor? Do you have some stark examples

Re: [Assam] March 2006 issue of Newsletter - weblink

2006-05-03 Thread jkk2020
Hello everyone, We are going to publish the April issue of the newsletter within a week. I am writing this email soliciting unpublished articles on any topic that will be relevant to the worldwide Assamese electronic community. The newsletter Posoowa will be published on assam.org as usual. P

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
If I am not mistaken, this article 47 came directly from the British Constitution. In fact, similar articles exist in most constitutions (regarding public health). Remember, this was 1951 or when this was done.   Now, if the legislators don't like the article, they can pass an amendment.   >This is

Re: [Assam] Fonts in Sadin

2006-05-03 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka
Go to http://www.pratidinassam.com, and download font for Sadin.Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can go through it in SADIN's internet edition at www.pratidinassam.com/sadin.   Does anybody know how to make these fonts change to Assamese fonts. RB__

Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or otherwise

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
C-da wrote: "Because others may have similarly corrosive practices in their religions, does not make Hinduism's demons go away. Does it?"     One has to fight one's demons own her/his own.   You are right about that.   UmeshChan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>I haven't seen any

Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or otherwise

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or otherwise >I haven't seen any effforts by Deepa Mehta to highlight any good points about Hindusim at all. *** Why is Deepa Mehta required to do that? Let those who revere it do that. Not to suggest she does not. She might very well be a d

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ? I wonder why so many northeastern people ( there may be others elsewhere as well) would submit to puritanical Indians' endeavor to prohibit alcoholic beverage consumption when it is an integral part of their culture and religion. And why sh

Re: [Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or Mirabai

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
I think if she really wants to make a movie about plight of females in religion in Hinduism (showing it a positive light acceptable to all) a movie on Mira Bai would be in order. Mirabai was the princess who fell in love with the God-Head Krishna (all historical - just a few centuries ago) http://w

[Assam] NYTimes.com: 'Opal Mehta' Won't Get a Life After All

2006-05-03 Thread jaipurschool
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from sender: $500,000 down the drain! Umesh ARTS   | May 3, 2006 'Opal Mehta' Won't Get a Life After All

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da,   Perhaps we should go the Mexico way and make it legal to use LSD, Weed and other drugs .   What is religion after all - it is man made. These drugs are also man made using ingredients which are God made:)   UmeshRajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Article 47--Duty of

[Assam] Deepa Mehta's love for Hinduism--or otherwise

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Just like I haven't seen any love emanating from C-da's writings about Hinduism similarly I haven't seen any love emanating from Deepa Mehta's movies or otherwise about Hindu faith.   Anybody who is not a Hindu should expect negative response to negative comments about Hinduism.   I take my ow

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
Article 47--Duty of the State to raise the level of nutrition and the standard of living and to improve public health The State shall regard the raising of the level of nutrition and the standard of living of its people and the improvement of public health as among its primary duties and, i

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da,   The common thread is that when someone raises an issue which presents the negative aspects of a group its members raise an outcry.   Recently a Indian film (called "Sins" http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/hindi/review/7455.html  ) based on a real story of a Roman Catholic Priest f

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ? >But should the people let a group of appointed lawyers be the final arbiters of what is their right, instead of attempting to reform and improve its lawmaking bodies?   I have observed that it is a characteristics of the Desis, they li

[Assam] AT: Barman demoted as RBI Dy Governor

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Barman demoted as RBI Dy GovernorBy A Staff Reporter http://www.assamtribune.com/ GUWAHATI, May 2 – Yet another instance of deprivation of an officer from Asom came to light when RB Barman, seniormost of the Executive Directors of the Reserve Bank of India (RBI), was first promoted to the rank of

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ? One would think it is the prerogative of the people and its representatives -- the law-making entities, to make laws to uphold the constitutional mandates. SC merely INTERPRETS the laws of the land. I know the Indian SC does a whole lot mor

[Assam] Fw: just political system

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
Just Political System: A Buddhist Point of View:   Although a good and just political system which guarantees basic human rights and contains checks and balances to the use of power is an important condition for a happy in society, people should not fritter away their time by endlessly sea

[Assam] Fonts in Sadin

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
You can go through it in SADIN's internet edition at www.pratidinassam.com/sadin.   Does anybody know how to make these fonts change to Assamese fonts. RB ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.or

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of HinduFundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
Why you try to bring the similarities of other religions? Just to show that it is a matter-of-fact thing nothing to get excited about? Anyway the similarities did not match. RB   - Original Message - From: umesh sharma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; assam@assamnet.org Sent:

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
This is democracy at work. Why are we blaming the SC? The people elect their representatives, who in turn enact laws. The Indian Supreme Court ONLY interprets the constitution. If people (read legislators) don't want it, they can always pass an amendment.   BTW: In the US, prohibition was passed in

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
>The Supreme Court has asked the central and state >governments to take steps to achieve the goal of total prohibition of >liquor as enshrined in Article 47 of the constitution under the >Directive Principles of State Policy.   I think the power comes from above. What is Article 47? Who ma

Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006

2006-05-03 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
yes, it is bad publicity. some westerners think only the "low-caste" -- non-brahmin indians eat meat, which may be the reality in southern part of india but not everywhere else.  meat eating is not just an "in" thing to do (and so is being a vegan/vegetarian for many - well some considers it being 

Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006 I know Alpana. In fact a couple of very close friends of our daughter's , who are our family friends too, are vegans. But I think this kind of self-imposed rules of diet smack of fundamentalism. But it is their choice. They have every right to it. A

Re: [Assam] Fwd: Opening of phase-I of Srimanta Sankaradeva Bhawan

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Seems like a significant phase of Assamese cultural presence in Delhi ! And JNU being close to it would ensure that people from across India and the world learn about Assamese culture and traditions and issues about development etc.     UmeshManoj Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:3rd  May

Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006

2006-05-03 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
Hi C'da: >They are vegetarian fundamentalists, that's all. They take it way too seriously. Don't know about the fundamentalist part, as one can also be kind and less opinionative :) to say they have strong will power. :) Vegans won't even eat any dairy products and not just meat, fish and eggs. S

[Assam] WB: Celebrate World Press Freedom Day

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:20909211~pagePK:64257043~piPK:437376~theSitePK:4607,00.html   Atleast in this regard India stands quite high -- just as in corruption..     UmeshUmesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - I

Re: [Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Does Supreme Court have the right to interpret the Indian constitution - and atleast remind the elected officials about what is written therein.   Umesh Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While it is disturbing to see uncontrolled proliferation of alcohol peddling and consumption in India,

[Assam] Fwd: Opening of phase-I of Srimanta Sankaradeva Bhawan

2006-05-03 Thread Manoj Das
3rd  May'06  Press Release   Assam Association, Delhi is going to open phase-I of the Cultural Center named after Mahapurusha Srimanta Sankaradeva tomorrow in a simple ceremony. The Bhawan located at A-14-B Qutub In

[Assam] IE: Of riots and religous structures in the middle of roads

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=66976Umesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard University,Class of 2005Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.mes

[Assam] From ToI/ SC the New Desi DIKTATOR ?

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
While it is disturbing to see uncontrolled proliferation of alcohol peddling and consumption in India, where does the SC derive its mandate to ASK ( read order) even in desi-demokrasy? Is the SC the SUPREME elected body of the country? cm Time has come for total prohibition: SC [ Wednesda

Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
Well that gives bad publicity that all Hindus are Vege. We from Assam had to clarify everytime that Brahmins in Assam take delight in eating meat. Another point of alienation of Assam from India? RB  - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: Rajen Barua Cc: assa

Re: [Assam] Harvard's First Hindu Magazine -details

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
"Our first article examines in detail the varying interpretations of dharma and traces the evolution of dharma into the modern world. Later articles extend these varying interpretations to such topics as gender equality, religious tolerance, economic theory, and the evolution of the Hindu Diaspora,

[Assam] Harvard News: Police corruption even in USA!!

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/04.27/11-tulia.htmlUmesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard University,Class of 2005 24 FIFA World Cup tickets to be won with Yaho

[Assam] Harvard's First Hindu Magazine

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
http://www.harvarddharma.org/resources/swadharma/ Umesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard University,Class of 2005Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messeng

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of Hindu Fundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Not surprising. Just like the Pope Benedict's ire against Da Vinchi Code and Gospel of Judas or like Muslim demonstrations against cartoons of Prophet Muhammad.   Communists would perhaps object to the notion that Marx and Engels were gay lovers -as has been recently reported.   :)   Umesh[EM

Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006

2006-05-03 Thread umesh sharma
Members of Jain faith believe in non-violence and are strictly vegetarian. Other faiths give choice to their followers. Though I have eaten chicken with atleast a few Jains -once even in a village dominated by Jains - Ashok Nagar in MP - on Holi day inside a farm.   The Maratha (Hindu) lad whose

Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006

2006-05-03 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006 What I fiund is that the Root of Hindu Vegetarianism is surprisingly and contrary to popular belief is not 'compassion to animals' but it is to keep oneself clean and pure so that it will help in getting 'Mwksha' or 'Mukti'. This Hindu vegetarianism is

[Assam] NYTimes.com: Film Ignites the Wrath of Hindu Fundamentalists

2006-05-03 Thread cmahanta
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from sender: >From NYT MOVIES   | May 3, 2006 Film Ignites the Wrath of Hindu Fundamentalists By ELISAB

Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006

2006-05-03 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Fw: HPI, May 2, 2006 They are vegetarian fundamentalists, that's all. They take it way too seriously. At 12:24 AM -0500 5/3/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: While this discussion about vegetarian is going on here, just heard over the TV that the some police dept. people (I

[Assam] It's a question of living with dignity

2006-05-03 Thread Pradip Kumar Datta
It's not the question of survivel, it's a question of living with dignity. We must encourage cheap foreign capital for our better living. Governments should track and monitor the funds and it's proper utilisation.   Thanks   Pradip Kumar Datta www.silchartoday.com "River Basin Friends(NE)" <[E

[Assam] Economy is boom and so you can take risk.

2006-05-03 Thread Pradip Kumar Datta
Partha, Economy is growing rapidly and sectors like retail, real estate, telecom, manufacturing, mining, power are growing rapidly. Mumbai Stock Exchange touched 12000 points which was 3000-4000 points two years back. One of my friend took loan from a private bank and invest in capital market and

Re: [Assam] Can we make the difference?

2006-05-03 Thread Pradip Kumar Datta
  People should understand that if they want to promote industries in the north east then they should respect company policies, rules and regulations of respective companies. Airtel is not a government company where we can ask jobs for local. Private companies will hasitate to invest if these thi

[Assam] Why a hero was forgotten

2006-05-03 Thread Pradip Kumar Datta
Burnout in obscurity- Forgotten anti-mandal face fades DALIP SINGH Rajeev Goswami, who set himself on fire in 1990. (AFP) New Delhi, Feb. 24: Rajeev Goswami, the burning face of the anti-Mandal movement of 1990, died today, forgotten by those who reaped the benefit of