Sorrye.
Friday evening - one too many gin with Kaji Tenga. :-)
My bad!
From: Chan Mahanta
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Ranjan Gogoi new CJ of Punjab, Har
Perhaps the correction needs start with Chidambaram himself?
Heard that he is one of the most corrupt with blessings from Karunanidhi et el.
Etia mur Madraazot juwa baat bondho hol neki? :)
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From: Chan Mahanta
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 20
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/There-is-governance-and-ethical-deficit-admits-Chidambaram/articleshow/7479866.cms
There is governance and ethical deficit, admits Chidambaram, TNN, Feb 12,
2011, 04.17am IST, Article, Comments (12), Tags:Wall Street Journal|P
Chidambaram|Manmohan Si
O'Deka:
Since when have Gogois been Bodo?
O'm
On Feb 11, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Dilip Deka wrote:
> This is the kind of news we all want to hear, good for Assam and good for
> India, also good for the minorities and the majority in India.
> You get my drift.?
> I am sure Ranjan Gogoi is an e
This is the kind of news we all want to hear, good for Assam and good for
India, also good for the minorities and the majority in India.
You get my drift.?
I am sure Ranjan Gogoi is an exceptional candidate for the position. But the
news should motivate other Bodos to work towards positions like
Ranjan Gogoi new CJ of Punjab, Haryana HC
Law Reporter
GUWAHATI, Feb 11 – Justice Ranjan Gogoi, a former Judge of the Gauhati High
Court and a present judge of the Punjab and Haryana High Court, has been
appointed Chief Justice of the Punjab and Haryana High Court, said a
notification issue
This is great. Glad to learn about this (4th only?) medical college in Assam.
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From: Buljit Buragohain
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:55:44
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Subject: [Assam] Kokrajhar Medical College foundation laid The Assam Tribune
Kokrajhar Medical College foundation laid
Correspondent
KOKRAJHAR, Feb 11 – As per the clause of the historic Bodo Accord - 2003, the
foundation stone for the Kokrajhar Medical College was laid formally on
February 9 at Bodofa Nagar in Kokrajhar along with the Kokrajhar Nursing
College and Udal
> It's not an excuse, it's just that India has a lot more challenges,
> languages, people, customs & religions.
> No other country can boast of so much diversity.
It is NOT a nation, that is why! It masy claim to kingdom come to be one.
But the truth is different, historically and even toda
>B: Those who pioneered it, did have to experiment with it, and thus it took
time. What is India's excuse?
It's not an excuse, it's just that India has a lot more challenges,
languages, people, customs & religions.
No other country can boast of so much diversity.
--Ram
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4
The older and younger argument, as a means for defending the failures and
aberrations, is fallacious, because:
A: It is not that India is having to INVENT what is right. They already know it
and wave it around. Except that it
is only the wrappings.
B: Those who pioneered it, did have to exper
C'da,
I agree. In fact, I'll go a bit further:
The strength of a true Democracy lies in it's ability to protect and uphold the
rights of it's weakest minorities. Once that's done, it can go ahead with the
next rung, and so on.
Having said that, I think democracies go through phases & challenges.
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?711615
No Government Wants a Strong Judiciary: SC
"No government wants strong judiciary," was how the Supreme Court today
expressed its exasperation over the low budgetary allocation to the judiciary.
A bench of Justices G S Singhvi and A K Ganguly said les
>To the majority goes the spoils .. be it language, culture, religion or
>caste.
*** So does Democracy. But in a true democracy there ARE limits to majority
power. That is why in an enlightened pluralistic society, majority will must
not
be the only thing that rules.
On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:
There are more than that . What about the Christmas Carols in Public Schools
? Will those be brushed aside as just "songs" ?
Ram-da, In India, they allow Gita, Bible or Koran in court ... probably a tad
better than Amerikan secularism.
>Would they let the Muslims
> perform a similar servic
C'da,
If I'm not mistaken, a short prayer is often done in office Christmas
parties. Don't know about the WH Christmas tree.
The US $ bills also have "In God we trust". Is that secular?
One may argue that it doesn't specifically refer to the Christian God, but
what about them American atheists?
>The lighting of Christmas trees is akin to ground-breaking pujas and could
>be termed 'cultural'.
That is a real strtch! Diwali lighting maybe. But not performing
Pujas.,
which will be same as holding a church service. Would they let the Muslims
perform a similar service ? Or would th
KC,
Even in Texas, there are court buildings with the 10 Commandments.
The greater issue is that media channels like Fox or any number of the
conservative talk shows, and even senators & congressmen/women are regularly
on the media spewing one form hatred (or prejudice) or another. And these
folk
Here is from wiki --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore#Early_prayer.2FTen_Commandments_controversy
"The practice of opening court sessions with prayer, though not uniform
throughout Alabama, continues in state courtrooms today"
The difference lies in HOW those who believe in those PRIN
On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> Dilli is the big bad wolf - we all know that. We all expected they would
> roll out the red carpets, wine & dine them.
*** But then should thinking people place their faith on this animal ? Or was it
just a perfunctory disclaimer :-)?
> B
SC,
Your sentiments are pretty common in Assam. But the bright side is there are
many people in
Assam & other places who are working hard to make things much better.
Unemployment and poverty are two of the big issues. Hopefully, the
investment climate will improve drastically
and the state can m
Dilli is the big bad wolf - we all know that. We all expected they would
roll out the red carpets, wine & dine them.
But ain't it a big surprise, that our home-grown varieties would take
Dilli's bait? And poor MM Singh & his aunt will say anything and
everything.
He is no constitutional expert, a
Thik asa apunak sir nokou..you know (well this is my personal opinion,
strictly) i never was in favor of independant assam nor i am now. We couldnt
use our hard earned democracy and we could nt use asom andolon. Then what
the hell we could do with independant assam. Our people have a name of "laha
On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> Well, C'da
>
> I don't think they should be taken lying down. People do protest. And
> sometimes those protests work. But, how on earth are you going to change
> belief systems & prejudices that are ages old.
That has to come from the
>For a moment I thought you might be referring to our newer editions of
> 'freedom fighters' in the NE.
And why are they so bad? If they were so bad, why is Dilli spreading the
red-carpet
for them now? They don't need to. The armed revolters were defeated you know?
And why is MMS so genero
Well, C'da
I don't think they should be taken lying down. People do protest. And
sometimes those protests work. But, how on earth are you going to change
belief systems & prejudices that are ages old.
And unfortunately, you don't have go all the way to India to find examples.
You can pretty much
*** As long as the ones who can't do it without their worship of the God/s of
their choice and as long as they don't do it at the public expense
they ought to be free to go do it wherever they wish to. There is NOTHING to
prevent them from doing it.
But nooo---the Gujarati Hindus HAVE to asser
Oh! you are talking about Indian's independence movement.
For a moment I thought you might be referring to our newer editions of
'freedom fighters' in the NE.
Those guys are now making a beeline to Dilli to strike some great deals.
Most of us knew they would be given a red carpet welcome. And th
Let's say a group of people associated with the construction of the new
courthouse annex just cannot do without a Bhumipuja but separation of state and
church(or temple) will not allow them to perform the Puja at the site of the
courthouse. So the group goes and performs the Puja at a
I am sorry. I was struggling with my touch pad. And plz read the above line
"will it be true?" thanx:-)
On 11 Feb 2011 22:53, "Saugot Chowdhury" wrote:
Sir, if i say that we gained freedom from oppsessive regime only by guns
will be true. But our father of nation taught us to be non cooperative
*** So, should that therefore be accepted, taken lying down :-)?
On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>> What I object to is claiming to be secular on the one hand, while
> practising religious hegemony, on the sly or overtly.
>
> C'da,
>
> While this sounds nice, it is really
Sir, if i say that we gained freedom from oppsessive regime only by guns
will be true. But our father of nation taught us to be non cooperative
towards regime machinery. The whole egypt episode reminds me of those
developments. I have nt seen the plight of our forefathers but i have seen
my brother
>What I object to is claiming to be secular on the one hand, while
practising religious hegemony, on the sly or overtly.
C'da,
While this sounds nice, it is really Utopian. I don't believe there is a
single country where religious hegemony does not exist in some for or the
other (of course, I am
I hope Indians will do so very soon! But, it's not about only democracy
there. It was all about globalization and American hegemony. The agitations
there shows that America is loosing its' grip there in North Africa and Arab
World.
Sushanta Kar
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Chan Mahanta wr
Now for Indians to rise against the dysfunction of their governance! What holds
them back from demanding
real democracy, free from corruption and the rule of law?
On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Saugot Chowdhury wrote:
> This is the begining of new era. They have shown patience and courage, tw
*** I think so too. They have a long and enviable history and civilization.
*** I have no problem with a homogeneous society willing to remain bound
by religious rule--its their choice. What I object to is claiming to be secular
on the one hand, while
practising religious hegemony, on the sly or
>They have shown patience and courage, two
>traits that link our freedom fighters to them
Which ' our freedom fighters' are we talking about?
This might be interesting, depending on the answer :-)
--Ram
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Saugot Chowdhury wrote:
> This is the begining of new
Sir, now its an wait and watch game. I am could nt contact my friends in
egypt during this whole movement. Now i hope that they will be very happy
with this develoqment. Well fear is always there, but they also know and we
too that, this is a part with too much uncertainity. Lets hope the best for
Hehe!
Now, we will have to see if that bit of 'secularism' you were just talking
about will be palatable :-)
But, I think, the Egyptians will just fine. From all indications, it looks
like the army will facilitate the transition, and Egypt will have a
government chosen by it's people.
---Ram
On
This is the begining of new era. They have shown patience and courage, two
traits that link our freedom fighters to them. Now i hope winds of change
will hit other countries in the world under dictatorship like libiya..god
bless the land of pharoh..
On 11 Feb 2011 22:21, "Pragyan Tinsukia College"
ITS TIME TO DEMOCRATS OF THE WORLD TO CELEBRATE.
Sushanta Kar
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/11/egypt.protests/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
> ___
> assam mailing list
> assam@assamnet.or
Now comes the hard part :-)
On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/11/egypt.protests/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
> ___
> assam mailing list
> assam@assamnet.org
> http://assamnet.org/mailman/list
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/11/egypt.protests/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
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>Alex de Tocqueville, whom modern conservatives in the U.S. so love,
*** Only as long as it is convenient for them. Just look at their position on
the democracy movement
in Egypt! Democracy is great as long as it does not run the risk of going
against or competing
with American interests.
You are right Amlan. You explain it very well.
However I take issue with "I see Indian "secularism" (or whatever of that
exists) as more in line
>
> with the U.S. concept than what is practiced in France." :-).
It maybe so in appearance, but in substance it is far different, like most
things
> This act of lighting a lamp and chanting Sanskrit slokas too is not
> considered religious but cultural.
*** I can understand that, to a point. But to perform Bhumi Puja at the
courthouse site goes far beyond following a cultural
tradition. BTW, WHOSE tradition is it to chant Sanskrit "slok
I would actually characterize it differently.
Secularism in the US implies equal recognition of all religions. It
is the separation of the church and the state (although nothing
specific anywhere spells this out) - the "no establishment" of
religion and "free exercise thereof" in the first amendm
I've seen a couple of episodes of this. Its OK, not ALL that hilarious though
:-).
On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:42 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
> Watch Outsourced - comes in NBC @ 8:30 PM every Thursday. It's hilarious
> though it can be taken as insult or embarrassing by some sometimes.
>
>
In USA, secularism means absence of religion. In India, secularism means equal
treatment of all religions. Thus the multi-faith prayers during "state"
functions. This definition of secularism has been sanctified by years of
prevailing usage and case law. There is also the very widespread practic
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