Re: [Assam] BBC E-mail: Twenty-three dead in India floods
Dear Uttamda Floods bring very sad memories. Floods were regular features in our area (Bordoloni). In fact during our matric exam, the exam hall was under water upto ankle. It pushes back development by many years. Think of the common people who has no dry cloth to wear and no food to eat. Govt. has to find lasting solutions for flood. It will require massive investment in channelizing our shallow rivers and drainage system. Our sympathies are with you all in this hour of discomfort and loss. May the waters recede fast and give you some dry space. Regards -manoj On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM, uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Manoj My compund has waist deep water. The water has seeped in the ground floor. The only reason is stagnation for shallow and inadequate drains. In this country of teeming millions, governement/ authorities could have simply and cheaply widened, deepened and cleaned the drains frequently to ensure free flow of water by labour intensive techniques and proper administration. It would have given bread and butter to many wage earners as well. Instead disasters, big or small, are boon to the elite as those are breeding grounds of corruption. Even on a global scale,disasters like wars are welcome to various businesses whether during the war or during the reconstruction period. The variation is in respect to scale only. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Mon, 16/6/08, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] BBC E-mail: Twenty-three dead in India floods To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Monday, 16 June, 2008, 10:33 PM manoj saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you should see it. ** Twenty-three dead in India floods ** At least 23 people are killed by heavy monsoon rain and flooding in north-eastern India, officials say. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7456974.stm ** BBC Daily E-mail ** Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all in one daily e-mail http://www.bbc.co.uk/email ** Disclaimer ** The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views or opinions. Please note that neither the e-mail address nor name of the sender have been verified. If you do not wish to receive such e-mails in the future or want to know more about the BBC's Email a Friend service, please read our frequently asked questions. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food and more. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/bestofyahoo/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Manoj Kumar Das C 172 GF, Sarvodaya Enclave New Delhi 17 India 0091 9312650558 (HP) 9910972654 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] BBC E-mail: Twenty-three dead in India floods
Govt.has to find lasting solutions for flood.You mean the Liberated People have to find . It will require massive investment in channelizing our shallowED rivers and drainage systems.Shallowed How? DueTo Indian 'National Embankments Policy'-a fundamentally flawed -non science. massive investment It is Massive to the Non-Functioning Rupeeconomics. Will be one key employment avenue for all present-day loafers. You will Invest to Survive and to get back your true Independence. Chezy will happily turn in his grave and thank the Assamese and say Thanks for proving my theory again. Meanwhile people should Suffer. Through Suffering will come realization of a 60 years' folly and something will happen. mm Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:53:49 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] BBC E-mail: Twenty-three dead in India floods Dear Uttamda Floods bring very sad memories. Floods were regular features in our area (Bordoloni). In fact during our matric exam, the exam hall was under water upto ankle. It pushes back development by many years. Think of the common people who has no dry cloth to wear and no food to eat. Govt. has to find lasting solutions for flood. It will require massive investment in channelizing our shallow rivers and drainage system. Our sympathies are with you all in this hour of discomfort and loss. May the waters recede fast and give you some dry space. Regards -manoj On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM, uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Manoj My compund has waist deep water. The water has seeped in the ground floor. The only reason is stagnation for shallow and inadequate drains. In this country of teeming millions, governement/ authorities could have simply and cheaply widened, deepened and cleaned the drains frequently to ensure free flow of water by labour intensive techniques and proper administration. It would have given bread and butter to many wage earners as well. Instead disasters, big or small, are boon to the elite as those are breeding grounds of corruption. Even on a global scale,disasters like wars are welcome to various businesses whether during the war or during the reconstruction period. The variation is in respect to scale only.Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Mon, 16/6/08, manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] BBC E-mail: Twenty-three dead in India floods To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Monday, 16 June, 2008, 10:33 PM manoj saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you should see it. ** Twenty-three dead in India floods ** At least 23 people are killed by heavy monsoon rain and flooding in north-eastern India, officials say. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7456974.stm ** BBC Daily E-mail ** Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all in one daily e-mail http://www.bbc.co.uk/email ** Disclaimer ** The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views or opinions. Please note that neither the e-mail address nor name of the sender have been verified. If you do not wish to receive such e-mails in the future or want to know more about the BBC's Email a Friend service, please read our frequently asked questions. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.orgBest Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food and more. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/bestofyahoo/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Manoj Kumar Das C 172 GF, Sarvodaya Enclave New Delhi 17 India 0091 9312650558 (HP) 9910972654 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _ Watch hottest Bollywood videos, clips, movie tailors, star interviews, songs and more on MSN videos. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Look What I Found!
Have been browsing the Assam papers. And the following was the leading story in the Sentinel yesterday. After a spate of ISI sightings and 'ISI nabbings' in Assam, duly reported for our benefit by a variety of netters, including journalists, I asked a question of one of these journalists sometimes back what happens to these suspected ISI elements and what crimes they are charged with. The report below finally gives us a clue. What I am curious about is the consternation of leading citizens reported. If I had to go by what I read it means: The 'suspected ISI agents ' are guilty, but were set free by the courts because the police and the state govt du-jour are inept and could not prove their case. I say du-jour ( of the day), because one of the complainers used to rule Assam for quite a number of years. It raises some questions in my mind: A: If the concerned pillars-of-society are correct about the guilt of the 'suspected ISI agents', what do they know that the police did not? Should they have raised their voices and come out to testify ? Or at the very least tell the police what they knew. Was it not their patriotic duty? B: What is the crime associated with being a 'suspected ISI agent'? Is there some Indian law that prohibits someone from being an ISI agent, self-styled or so labeled by pillars-of-society or by anyone who is not an ISI agent? It really boggles the mind. C: Is police ineptitude something new, that they have been unaware of? If I am not mistaken, the complainers include an ex-CM, an ex-Chief Secy and an ex-Police Chief . Wouldn't people want to know what measures they took to improve the quality of policing? Finally, I am of course relieved to notice that there have not been much IS sightings reported to assamnet in recent months. Perhaps they have all been 'nabbed' and Assam's scourge has been finally eradicated. Or just re-habbed and released after years of detention, raising the pillars-of-society's hackles. What do netters think? cm *** Government's role on release of suspected ISI agents severely criticized By our Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, June 14: Former Asom Chief Minister Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, former Asom Chief Secretary JP Rajkhowa and former DGP HK Deka today expressed serious concern over the release of as many as ten suspected ISI agents by the court for the failure of the Assam Police to prove charges against them. They termed it as a total failure of the Government and a serious threat to the internal security of the country. Mahanta even said the incident has once again proved Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi's soft stand towards the ISI and Islamic fundamentalists. However, the All Assam Students' Union (AASU) preferred not to air any comment on the issue now. Talking to The Sentinel, Mahanta said: It was due to the bold stand taken by the then AGP Government that police could arrest as many as ten ISI agents on the basis of strong ground, but those ISI agents have been set free due to negligence on the part of the Tarun Gogoi-led Government. Either the police didn't investigate the case deeply or the prosecutor was not given the required briefing by the State Government or the State Government took a soft stand in the case. Whatever may be the case, it has proved once again that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is soft towards the ISI and fundamentalists. This is undoubtedly a serious threat to the internal security of the country. It may be mentioned here that the 10 suspected ISI agents had been arrested during the tenure of Prafulla Kumar Mahanta as Chief Minister of the State. Blaming it on the Assam Police, former Asom Chief Secretary JP Rajkhowa said since it is a serious matter and the Union Ministry of Home Affairs should step in. Talking to The Sentinel, Rajkhowa said : If the ten are not ISI agents, the Assam Police is responsible for holding them so long on mere suspicion. After their arrest, did the Assam Police ever consult the RAW and IB, given the fact that the issue was so serious and a grave threat to the internal security of the country? Rajkhowa further said: The Assam Police can still detain them as they are a threat to national security. They can still be arrested under the National Security Act (NSA) and their cases may be referred to an advisory committee headed by a retired judge of the High Court. The Assam Police is actually incompetent to handle such cases. Former Asom DGP HK Deka was also surprised at the release of the 10 suspected ISI agents. Talking to The Sentinel, Deka said: It's not only an unfortunate incident, but also a threat to the internal security of the country. When the suspected ISI agents were arrested, sufficient incriminating documents were seized from their possession. Maybe, the police didn't investigate the case
Re: [Assam] Look What I Found!
The ISI would foment trouble in India and the RAW would do the same in Pakistan. This is the game played by the States and is a part of the statecraft. What I find revolting is: the sight of the corpses of the Biharis ( some of them assimilated into the Oxomiya society and so the term is inapplicable) gunned down by ULFA cadres ( Madhrurya Gohain's name pops up here) and also the sight of Madhurya Gohain's corpse that lay like a slaughtered animal in the TV pictures. These are entirely unnecessary. We should not go out to see for whom the bell tolls, for it tolls for all of us. The politicians in question are neither less nor more than their do-alikes in any part of the world, be it Assam, be it India, be it the US. It is a big farce. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Tue, 17/6/08, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Look What I Found! To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Tuesday, 17 June, 2008, 6:53 PM Have been browsing the Assam papers. And the following was the leading story in the Sentinel yesterday. After a spate of ISI sightings and 'ISI nabbings' in Assam, duly reported for our benefit by a variety of netters, including journalists, I asked a question of one of these journalists sometimes back what happens to these suspected ISI elements and what crimes they are charged with. The report below finally gives us a clue. What I am curious about is the consternation of leading citizens reported. If I had to go by what I read it means: The 'suspected ISI agents ' are guilty, but were set free by the courts because the police and the state govt du-jour are inept and could not prove their case. I say du-jour ( of the day), because one of the complainers used to rule Assam for quite a number of years. It raises some questions in my mind: A: If the concerned pillars-of-society are correct about the guilt of the 'suspected ISI agents', what do they know that the police did not? Should they have raised their voices and come out to testify ? Or at the very least tell the police what they knew. Was it not their patriotic duty? B: What is the crime associated with being a 'suspected ISI agent'? Is there some Indian law that prohibits someone from being an ISI agent, self-styled or so labeled by pillars-of-society or by anyone who is not an ISI agent? It really boggles the mind. C: Is police ineptitude something new, that they have been unaware of? If I am not mistaken, the complainers include an ex-CM, an ex-Chief Secy and an ex-Police Chief . Wouldn't people want to know what measures they took to improve the quality of policing? Finally, I am of course relieved to notice that there have not been much IS sightings reported to assamnet in recent months. Perhaps they have all been 'nabbed' and Assam's scourge has been finally eradicated. Or just re-habbed and released after years of detention, raising the pillars-of-society's hackles. What do netters think? cm *** Government's role on release of suspected ISI agents severely criticized By our Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, June 14: Former Asom Chief Minister Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, former Asom Chief Secretary JP Rajkhowa and former DGP HK Deka today expressed serious concern over the release of as many as ten suspected ISI agents by the court for the failure of the Assam Police to prove charges against them. They termed it as a total failure of the Government and a serious threat to the internal security of the country. Mahanta even said the incident has once again proved Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi's soft stand towards the ISI and Islamic fundamentalists. However, the All Assam Students' Union (AASU) preferred not to air any comment on the issue now. Talking to The Sentinel, Mahanta said: It was due to the bold stand taken by the then AGP Government that police could arrest as many as ten ISI agents on the basis of strong ground, but those ISI agents have been set free due to negligence on the part of the Tarun Gogoi-led Government. Either the police didn't investigate the case deeply or the prosecutor was not given the required briefing by the State Government or the State Government took a soft stand in the case. Whatever may be the case, it has proved once again that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is soft towards the ISI and fundamentalists. This is undoubtedly a serious threat to the internal security of the country. It may be mentioned here that the 10 suspected ISI agents had been arrested during the tenure of Prafulla Kumar Mahanta as Chief Minister of the State. Blaming it on the Assam Police, former Asom Chief Secretary JP Rajkhowa said since it is a serious matter and the Union Ministry of Home Affairs should step in. Talking to The Sentinel, Rajkhowa said : If the ten are not ISI agents, the Assam
Re: [Assam] Look What I Found!
Given the fact that the troublemakers are not going to go away, They shoul be nabbed. Some time back I think there was a report showing the Assam police is the most corrupt in India , so I would not set standards based on their wisdom. Umesh uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ISI would foment trouble in India and the RAW would do the same in Pakistan. This is the game played by the States and is a part of the statecraft. What I find revolting is: the sight of the corpses of the Biharis ( some of them assimilated into the Oxomiya society and so the term is inapplicable) gunned down by ULFA cadres ( Madhrurya Gohain's name pops up here) and also the sight of Madhurya Gohain's corpse that lay like a slaughtered animal in the TV pictures. These are entirely unnecessary. We should not go out to see for whom the bell tolls, for it tolls for all of us. The politicians in question are neither less nor more than their do-alikes in any part of the world, be it Assam, be it India, be it the US. It is a big farce. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Tue, 17/6/08, Chan Mahanta wrote: From: Chan Mahanta Subject: [Assam] Look What I Found! To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Tuesday, 17 June, 2008, 6:53 PM Have been browsing the Assam papers. And the following was the leading story in the Sentinel yesterday. After a spate of ISI sightings and 'ISI nabbings' in Assam, duly reported for our benefit by a variety of netters, including journalists, I asked a question of one of these journalists sometimes back what happens to these suspected ISI elements and what crimes they are charged with. The report below finally gives us a clue. What I am curious about is the consternation of leading citizens reported. If I had to go by what I read it means: The 'suspected ISI agents ' are guilty, but were set free by the courts because the police and the state govt du-jour are inept and could not prove their case. I say du-jour ( of the day), because one of the complainers used to rule Assam for quite a number of years. It raises some questions in my mind: A: If the concerned pillars-of-society are correct about the guilt of the 'suspected ISI agents', what do they know that the police did not? Should they have raised their voices and come out to testify ? Or at the very least tell the police what they knew. Was it not their patriotic duty? B: What is the crime associated with being a 'suspected ISI agent'? Is there some Indian law that prohibits someone from being an ISI agent, self-styled or so labeled by pillars-of-society or by anyone who is not an ISI agent? It really boggles the mind. C: Is police ineptitude something new, that they have been unaware of? If I am not mistaken, the complainers include an ex-CM, an ex-Chief Secy and an ex-Police Chief . Wouldn't people want to know what measures they took to improve the quality of policing? Finally, I am of course relieved to notice that there have not been much IS sightings reported to assamnet in recent months. Perhaps they have all been 'nabbed' and Assam's scourge has been finally eradicated. Or just re-habbed and released after years of detention, raising the pillars-of-society's hackles. What do netters think? cm *** Government's role on release of suspected ISI agents severely criticized By our Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, June 14: Former Asom Chief Minister Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, former Asom Chief Secretary JP Rajkhowa and former DGP HK Deka today expressed serious concern over the release of as many as ten suspected ISI agents by the court for the failure of the Assam Police to prove charges against them. They termed it as a total failure of the Government and a serious threat to the internal security of the country. Mahanta even said the incident has once again proved Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi's soft stand towards the ISI and Islamic fundamentalists. However, the All Assam Students' Union (AASU) preferred not to air any comment on the issue now. Talking to The Sentinel, Mahanta said: It was due to the bold stand taken by the then AGP Government that police could arrest as many as ten ISI agents on the basis of strong ground, but those ISI agents have been set free due to negligence on the part of the Tarun Gogoi-led Government. Either the police didn't investigate the case deeply or the prosecutor was not given the required briefing by the State Government or the State Government took a soft stand in the case. Whatever may be the case, it has proved once again that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is soft towards the ISI and fundamentalists. This is undoubtedly a serious threat to the internal security of the country. It may be mentioned here that the 10 suspected ISI agents had been arrested during the tenure of Prafulla Kumar Mahanta as Chief Minister of the State. Blaming it on the
[Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill
It sounds like a good idea. Is there a downside to it? Brahmaputra needs dredging and the plant site needs dirt - good match as I can see it. Dilip Past WeekPast MonthPast 3 MonthsPast 6 MonthsPast YearSince 2006 Guwahati, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 HomeClassifieds Backissues Weather Contact Us News • City • State • North East • Sports • Business • Obituary Opinion • Editorial • Letters • Jocoserious • Photos Features • Panorama • Mosaic • Horizon • Sunday Reading Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill By Ron Duarah DIBRUGARH, June 16 – The river Brahmaputra is being scouted as a possible source for silt (fine grain sand) for use as landfill at the 3000 – bigha site for the Assam Gas Cracker Project. Work on the project has just begun, and engineers of BCPL (Brahmaputra Cracker Polymer Limited) and EIL (Engineers India Limited) have approached the Dibrugarh civil administration for possible sites from where earth, silt and sand can be extracted to meet the landfill requirement. Sources in BCPL and EIL said the requirement of landfill aggregate is huge, and is initially pegged at a mind boggling 75 lakh cubic metres. The landfill works alone are estimated to cost about Rs 250 crore. Such quantities of silt or earth is unlikely to be available from a single site, except if the Brahmaputra is exploited, said a BCPL official. Moreover, land filling on such a scale has not been taken up before in eastern India for any purpose. Last week, officials of the Dibrugarh administration and Forest department went around several places in the vicinity of the gas cracker project site, scouting for areas from where earth or silt could be excavated from. They have pinpointed a couple of places, including the possibility of excavating sand from the Buri Dehing river. However, the civil officials have also expressed their concern at the possible transport bottleneck if these places are to be used, as a major highway traffic jam could not be ruled out. Then there is the potential of a public outcry against excavation of paddy fields. It is anticipated that once the landfill work commences, there would be about 400 ten-wheel trucks on the road, which would congest the already busy national highway between Dibrugarh and Jorhat, and may also lead to major traffic snarls. Another possibility the BCPL and EIL engineers are mulling is the induction of slurry pumping systems, to pump silt straight from the river to the gas cracker site. The system comprises laying of a pipeline, installation of slurry pumps and booster pumps. The procedure would involve making a fine paste of silt and water, and push it through a pipeline to pour the material at the required site. This system, if put to use, would negate the use of a massive number of dumper trucks, avoid the need to build a road, and also avoid any road congestion by trucks carrying silt/earth. To avoid nightmarish conditions on the national highway and also to cause least disturbance and annoyance to the civil population on the Moran – Dibrugarh belt, BCPL has been informally advised by the Dibrugarh administration to exploit the Brahmaputra for the landfill requirement. Of course, this would entail construction of an adequate service road from the river bank to the gas cracker site, but is the best available option, remarked a senior revenue official here. He said a couple of Brahmaputra islands (char, in local parlance) could be scooped up to meet the land filling requirements of the gas cracker project. The civil administration here is of the studied opinion that such an exercise would be beneficial for Brahmaputra river navigation too, provided the excavation of river silt is done from demarcated areas as mapped by the Forest Department, in consultation with the Water Resources Department, engineers of the Bogibeel Bridge Project and the Inland Water Transport Department. Meanwhile, work on the rehabilitation of gas cracker – affected families (those whose lands and homes have been acquired for setting up of the Rs 5,600 crore project) have begun in right earnest, and people are building their homes in the designated areas, said a senior district administration official here. He said the families are being provided financial and material assistance to build their new homes by the government, and that the evacuated families are cooperating with the administration, much to the relief of both BCPL and the state government. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] The Pandas of Sichuan, Retrieval of radioactive material from the quake region, and
If only people heeded what others were saying and started to think about the state of the world. Earthquakes are man-made. Really-is man that powerful to be able to shake the earth(physically) ? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:27:56 -0700Subject: [WaterWatch] The Pandas of Sichuan, Retrieval of radioactive material from the quake region, andThe Honshu major earthquake of 13th June 2008: Genpatsu Shinsai is coming! We live in such a disconnected world! This need not have been the scenario of the future. If only people heeded what others were saying and started to think about the state of the world. Earthquakes are man-made. Many by Indian dams! Because of the peculiar nature of the Indian monsoon. If they had learnt to see this cause effect connect they could have seen it coming. In the 30-50 latitude band strong earthquakes were raging- Algeria, Greece, the 35 degree latitude, 81 degree longitude major quake in March in the Himalayas, even the Iceland strong quake upwards of this latitudeand the 12 May Sichuan earthquake(Sichuan quake was predicted by me a week in advance). Then the monsoon was raging heavily in North India in June 2008 and the 12th of June 2008 saw the heaviest rain over India. The fag end of the 13th of June 2008 then saw the major 7.2 MM North Japan earthquake(Fukushima nukes spilt highly radioactive water from the spent fuel pools): The magnitude and the date band was predicted a year in advance, the location 12 hrs in advance. If only the people had seen that the past becomes the future! The mean of the past locations, magnitudes and dates of the peak magnitude earthquake for any month is the future! The USGS was routinely informed! Genpatsu Shinsai is coming. See http://predictingquakes.blogspot.com/ and http://earthquakescausedbydams.blogspot.com/ __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Calendar MARKETPLACE Blockbuster is giving away a free trial of Blockbuster Total Access to smart movie lovers like you. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 5 New MembersVisit Your Group Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice more. Y! Messenger Files to share? Send up to 1GB of files in an IM. Cat Fanatics on Yahoo! Groups Find people who are crazy about cats. . __,_._,___ _ 2000 Placements last year. Are You next ? Find out http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=499 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill
It is mentioned in the report that the cost of the landfill has been estimated at Rs250 crores. How have they estimated the cost when the source of landfill and the delivery system are yet to be finalised? You do not know whether you are buying from public or private source, you do not know whether you have to build a road or lay a pieline, you do not know whether the land will be free of cost or it will entail costs, and you have estimated the cost! That is, even if it costs you Rs.100 crores, you will spend Rs.250 crores, by means fair or foul. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 18/6/08, Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 6:12 AM It sounds like a good idea. Is there a downside to it? Brahmaputra needs dredging and the plant site needs dirt - good match as I can see it. Dilip Past WeekPast MonthPast 3 MonthsPast 6 MonthsPast YearSince 2006 Guwahati, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 HomeClassifieds Backissues Weather Contact Us News • City • State • North East • Sports • Business • Obituary Opinion • Editorial • Letters • Jocoserious • Photos Features • Panorama • Mosaic • Horizon • Sunday Reading Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill By Ron Duarah DIBRUGARH, June 16 – The river Brahmaputra is being scouted as a possible source for silt (fine grain sand) for use as landfill at the 3000 – bigha site for the Assam Gas Cracker Project. Work on the project has just begun, and engineers of BCPL (Brahmaputra Cracker Polymer Limited) and EIL (Engineers India Limited) have approached the Dibrugarh civil administration for possible sites from where earth, silt and sand can be extracted to meet the landfill requirement. Sources in BCPL and EIL said the requirement of landfill aggregate is huge, and is initially pegged at a mind boggling 75 lakh cubic metres. The landfill works alone are estimated to cost about Rs 250 crore. Such quantities of silt or earth is unlikely to be available from a single site, except if the Brahmaputra is exploited, said a BCPL official. Moreover, land filling on such a scale has not been taken up before in eastern India for any purpose. Last week, officials of the Dibrugarh administration and Forest department went around several places in the vicinity of the gas cracker project site, scouting for areas from where earth or silt could be excavated from. They have pinpointed a couple of places, including the possibility of excavating sand from the Buri Dehing river. However, the civil officials have also expressed their concern at the possible transport bottleneck if these places are to be used, as a major highway traffic jam could not be ruled out. Then there is the potential of a public outcry against excavation of paddy fields. It is anticipated that once the landfill work commences, there would be about 400 ten-wheel trucks on the road, which would congest the already busy national highway between Dibrugarh and Jorhat, and may also lead to major traffic snarls. Another possibility the BCPL and EIL engineers are mulling is the induction of slurry pumping systems, to pump silt straight from the river to the gas cracker site. The system comprises laying of a pipeline, installation of slurry pumps and booster pumps. The procedure would involve making a fine paste of silt and water, and push it through a pipeline to pour the material at the required site. This system, if put to use, would negate the use of a massive number of dumper trucks, avoid the need to build a road, and also avoid any road congestion by trucks carrying silt/earth. To avoid nightmarish conditions on the national highway and also to cause least disturbance and annoyance to the civil population on the Moran – Dibrugarh belt, BCPL has been informally advised by the Dibrugarh administration to exploit the Brahmaputra for the landfill requirement. Of course, this would entail construction of an adequate service road from the river bank to the gas cracker site, but is the best available option, remarked a senior revenue official here. He said a couple of Brahmaputra islands (char, in local parlance) could be scooped up to meet the land filling requirements of the gas cracker project. The civil administration here is of the studied opinion that such an exercise would be beneficial for Brahmaputra river navigation too, provided the excavation of river silt is done from demarcated areas as mapped by the Forest Department, in consultation with the Water Resources Department, engineers of the Bogibeel Bridge Project and the Inland Water Transport Department. Meanwhile, work on the rehabilitation of gas cracker – affected families (those whose lands and homes have been acquired for setting up of the Rs 5,600 crore project) have begun in right earnest, and people are building their
Re: [Assam] banana...
Babul, Where was the picture taken? It is amazing. Dilipda - Original Message From: bg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assamnet assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:00:50 PM Subject: [Assam] banana... -- Babul Gogoi i-50, Lajpat Nagar 1, New Delhi 110024 Tel: 011-29817150 / 9868182079 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill
Dear Uttam, An estimate is an estimate. It is based on past experience and data. The real cost could be lower. But that is not the issue here. If we can get free dredging of the Brahmaputra or a tributary, why not? That's what my question was about. Dilip Deka - Original Message From: uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:20:05 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill It is mentioned in the report that the cost of the landfill has been estimated at Rs250 crores. How have they estimated the cost when the source of landfill and the delivery system are yet to be finalised? You do not know whether you are buying from public or private source, you do not know whether you have to build a road or lay a pieline, you do not know whether the land will be free of cost or it will entail costs, and you have estimated the cost! That is, even if it costs you Rs.100 crores, you will spend Rs.250 crores, by means fair or foul. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 18/6/08, Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 6:12 AM It sounds like a good idea. Is there a downside to it? Brahmaputra needs dredging and the plant site needs dirt - good match as I can see it. Dilip Past WeekPast MonthPast 3 MonthsPast 6 MonthsPast YearSince 2006 Guwahati, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 HomeClassifieds Backissues Weather Contact Us News • City • State • North East • Sports • Business • Obituary Opinion • Editorial • Letters • Jocoserious • Photos Features • Panorama • Mosaic • Horizon • Sunday Reading Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill By Ron Duarah DIBRUGARH, June 16 – The river Brahmaputra is being scouted as a possible source for silt (fine grain sand) for use as landfill at the 3000 – bigha site for the Assam Gas Cracker Project. Work on the project has just begun, and engineers of BCPL (Brahmaputra Cracker Polymer Limited) and EIL (Engineers India Limited) have approached the Dibrugarh civil administration for possible sites from where earth, silt and sand can be extracted to meet the landfill requirement. Sources in BCPL and EIL said the requirement of landfill aggregate is huge, and is initially pegged at a mind boggling 75 lakh cubic metres. The landfill works alone are estimated to cost about Rs 250 crore. Such quantities of silt or earth is unlikely to be available from a single site, except if the Brahmaputra is exploited, said a BCPL official. Moreover, land filling on such a scale has not been taken up before in eastern India for any purpose. Last week, officials of the Dibrugarh administration and Forest department went around several places in the vicinity of the gas cracker project site, scouting for areas from where earth or silt could be excavated from. They have pinpointed a couple of places, including the possibility of excavating sand from the Buri Dehing river. However, the civil officials have also expressed their concern at the possible transport bottleneck if these places are to be used, as a major highway traffic jam could not be ruled out. Then there is the potential of a public outcry against excavation of paddy fields. It is anticipated that once the landfill work commences, there would be about 400 ten-wheel trucks on the road, which would congest the already busy national highway between Dibrugarh and Jorhat, and may also lead to major traffic snarls. Another possibility the BCPL and EIL engineers are mulling is the induction of slurry pumping systems, to pump silt straight from the river to the gas cracker site. The system comprises laying of a pipeline, installation of slurry pumps and booster pumps. The procedure would involve making a fine paste of silt and water, and push it through a pipeline to pour the material at the required site. This system, if put to use, would negate the use of a massive number of dumper trucks, avoid the need to build a road, and also avoid any road congestion by trucks carrying silt/earth. To avoid nightmarish conditions on the national highway and also to cause least disturbance and annoyance to the civil population on the Moran – Dibrugarh belt, BCPL has been informally advised by the Dibrugarh administration to exploit the Brahmaputra for the landfill requirement. Of course, this would entail construction of an adequate service road from the river bank to the gas cracker site, but is the best available option, remarked a senior revenue official here. He said a couple of Brahmaputra islands (char, in local parlance) could be scooped up to meet the land filling requirements of the gas cracker project. The civil administration here is of the studied opinion that such an exercise would
Re: [Assam] banana...
Is it in Assam? nbsp; Mridul --- On Wed, 6/18/08, bg lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: bg lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: [Assam] banana... To: assamnet lt;assam@assamnet.orggt; Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 9:30 AM -- Babul Gogoi i-50, Lajpat Nagar 1, New Delhi 110024 Tel: 011-29817150 / 9868182079___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] banana...
This proto was probably clicked by Debojit Gogoi, Numaligarh Refinery, Golaghat.. I could not get thru his mobile number .. to get more info.. will try after sometime On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Babul, Where was the picture taken? It is amazing. Dilipda - Original Message From: bg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assamnet assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:00:50 PM Subject: [Assam] banana... -- Babul Gogoi i-50, Lajpat Nagar 1, New Delhi 110024 Tel: 011-29817150 / 9868182079 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Babul Gogoi i-50, Lajpat Nagar 1, New Delhi 110024 Tel: 011-29817150 / 9868182079 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill
Dilip Da I am at one with your opinion.Nothing can be better. But you asked about the downside. So, the skeptic in me wanted to know what has gone into that estimate, if they did not do their homework about the source and delivery of the land-fill before preparing it. This project is on the works for so many years; could not they have consulted the state government about the possibility while making the estimate itself? Even at the estimate level, all known factors are to be considered and it should not be on whimsy. If they are so callous, then they are not serious about the project's success or they have some other motives giving them the elbow room to indulge in another scam. That is what I thought. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 18/6/08, Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 9:42 AM Dear Uttam, An estimate is an estimate. It is based on past experience and data. The real cost could be lower. But that is not the issue here. If we can get free dredging of the Brahmaputra or a tributary, why not? That's what my question was about. Dilip Deka - Original Message From: uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:20:05 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill It is mentioned in the report that the cost of the landfill has been estimated at Rs250 crores. How have they estimated the cost when the source of landfill and the delivery system are yet to be finalised? You do not know whether you are buying from public or private source, you do not know whether you have to build a road or lay a pieline, you do not know whether the land will be free of cost or it will entail costs, and you have estimated the cost! That is, even if it costs you Rs.100 crores, you will spend Rs.250 crores, by means fair or foul. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 18/6/08, Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 6:12 AM It sounds like a good idea. Is there a downside to it? Brahmaputra needs dredging and the plant site needs dirt - good match as I can see it. Dilip Past WeekPast MonthPast 3 MonthsPast 6 MonthsPast YearSince 2006 Guwahati, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 HomeClassifieds Backissues Weather Contact Us News • City • State • North East • Sports • Business • Obituary Opinion • Editorial • Letters • Jocoserious • Photos Features • Panorama • Mosaic • Horizon • Sunday Reading Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill By Ron Duarah DIBRUGARH, June 16 – The river Brahmaputra is being scouted as a possible source for silt (fine grain sand) for use as landfill at the 3000 – bigha site for the Assam Gas Cracker Project. Work on the project has just begun, and engineers of BCPL (Brahmaputra Cracker Polymer Limited) and EIL (Engineers India Limited) have approached the Dibrugarh civil administration for possible sites from where earth, silt and sand can be extracted to meet the landfill requirement. Sources in BCPL and EIL said the requirement of landfill aggregate is huge, and is initially pegged at a mind boggling 75 lakh cubic metres. The landfill works alone are estimated to cost about Rs 250 crore. Such quantities of silt or earth is unlikely to be available from a single site, except if the Brahmaputra is exploited, said a BCPL official. Moreover, land filling on such a scale has not been taken up before in eastern India for any purpose. Last week, officials of the Dibrugarh administration and Forest department went around several places in the vicinity of the gas cracker project site, scouting for areas from where earth or silt could be excavated from. They have pinpointed a couple of places, including the possibility of excavating sand from the Buri Dehing river. However, the civil officials have also expressed their concern at the possible transport bottleneck if these places are to be used, as a major highway traffic jam could not be ruled out. Then there is the potential of a public outcry against excavation of paddy fields. It is anticipated that once the landfill work commences, there would be about 400 ten-wheel trucks on the road, which would congest the already busy national highway between Dibrugarh and Jorhat, and may also lead to major traffic snarls. Another possibility the BCPL and EIL engineers are mulling is the induction of slurry pumping systems, to pump silt straight from the river to the gas cracker site. The system comprises laying of a pipeline,
Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill
Dear Uttamda While preparing the estimates they must have simply added the CPWD rates for land filling. On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM, uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dilip Da I am at one with your opinion.Nothing can be better. But you asked about the downside. So, the skeptic in me wanted to know what has gone into that estimate, if they did not do their homework about the source and delivery of the land-fill before preparing it. This project is on the works for so many years; could not they have consulted the state government about the possibility while making the estimate itself? Even at the estimate level, all known factors are to be considered and it should not be on whimsy. If they are so callous, then they are not serious about the project's success or they have some other motives giving them the elbow room to indulge in another scam. That is what I thought. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 18/6/08, Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 9:42 AM Dear Uttam, An estimate is an estimate. It is based on past experience and data. The real cost could be lower. But that is not the issue here. If we can get free dredging of the Brahmaputra or a tributary, why not? That's what my question was about. Dilip Deka - Original Message From: uttam borthakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:20:05 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill It is mentioned in the report that the cost of the landfill has been estimated at Rs250 crores. How have they estimated the cost when the source of landfill and the delivery system are yet to be finalised? You do not know whether you are buying from public or private source, you do not know whether you have to build a road or lay a pieline, you do not know whether the land will be free of cost or it will entail costs, and you have estimated the cost! That is, even if it costs you Rs.100 crores, you will spend Rs.250 crores, by means fair or foul. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 18/6/08, Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dilip and Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill To: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 6:12 AM It sounds like a good idea. Is there a downside to it? Brahmaputra needs dredging and the plant site needs dirt - good match as I can see it. Dilip Past WeekPast MonthPast 3 MonthsPast 6 MonthsPast YearSince 2006 Guwahati, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 HomeClassifieds Backissues Weather Contact Us News • City • State • North East • Sports • Business • Obituary Opinion • Editorial • Letters • Jocoserious • Photos Features • Panorama • Mosaic • Horizon • Sunday Reading Brahmaputra islands to provide landfill By Ron Duarah DIBRUGARH, June 16 – The river Brahmaputra is being scouted as a possible source for silt (fine grain sand) for use as landfill at the 3000 – bigha site for the Assam Gas Cracker Project. Work on the project has just begun, and engineers of BCPL (Brahmaputra Cracker Polymer Limited) and EIL (Engineers India Limited) have approached the Dibrugarh civil administration for possible sites from where earth, silt and sand can be extracted to meet the landfill requirement. Sources in BCPL and EIL said the requirement of landfill aggregate is huge, and is initially pegged at a mind boggling 75 lakh cubic metres. The landfill works alone are estimated to cost about Rs 250 crore. Such quantities of silt or earth is unlikely to be available from a single site, except if the Brahmaputra is exploited, said a BCPL official. Moreover, land filling on such a scale has not been taken up before in eastern India for any purpose. Last week, officials of the Dibrugarh administration and Forest department went around several places in the vicinity of the gas cracker project site, scouting for areas from where earth or silt could be excavated from. They have pinpointed a couple of places, including the possibility of excavating sand from the Buri Dehing river. However, the civil officials have also expressed their concern at the possible transport bottleneck if these places are to be used, as a major highway traffic jam could not be ruled out. Then there is the potential of a public outcry against excavation of paddy fields. It is anticipated that once the landfill work commences, there would be about 400 ten-wheel trucks on the road, which would congest the already busy national highway between Dibrugarh and Jorhat, and may also
