RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-05 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Michael Giagnocavo wrote: Yes, there is network support. I tried it out, but the voice quality seemed quite choppy (local machine, P4 3GHz). Not sure if it'd actually work for any near-production scenarios. -Michael Being partly responsible for AstWind, the

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-05 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
CoLinux works great for IAX to IAX or SIP to IAX where no Disk Access is taking place. Thanks for clearing that up. I had been using it for IVRs. So if I created a RAM disk for CoLinux and booted it from there... that might work? You know, that would be an interesting project, and I'd bet

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-05 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Michael Giagnocavo wrote: CoLinux works great for IAX to IAX or SIP to IAX where no Disk Access is taking place. Thanks for clearing that up. I had been using it for IVRs. So if I created a RAM disk for CoLinux and booted it from there... that might work? You

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows: A Ramble About Open Source

2004-11-04 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
I don't know why I bother feeding the trolls (either of them), but I do think this conversation does actually have something to contribute to the list. I think they are angry for a really important and relevant reason. Thus we begin the long and winding trek from off-topic to on-topic: On Tue,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Matt Riddell
Jay Milk wrote: I'm not sure why I'm even discussing the benefits of one operating system over another with someone who can't even spell its name. His name...not its name (especially following who). :-) -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Jay Milk
-Users] Linux and Windows Jay Milk wrote: I'm not sure why I'm even discussing the benefits of one operating system over another with someone who can't even spell its name. His name...not its name (especially following who). :-) -- Cheers, Matt Riddell

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Matt Riddell
Jay Milk wrote: its name -- as in, not being able to spell the name of the operating system he's trashing. Ah... [FLAMEBAIT] So it was a joke! Who care winblows sux! [/FLAMEBAIT] :-) -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___ http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 12:46, Karl J. Vesterling wrote: At 06:51 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: [snip for brevity[ So the U.S. Govt has never used linux anywhere? Wow. Not in most installations, and definitely not in DoD facilities. The Office of Inspector General has deemed open source to be

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Kevin Walsh
Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] lazily top-posted: I'm not sure why I'm even discussing the benefits of one operating system over another I don't know why you bother posting at all. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ K e v i n W

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 12:46, Karl J. Vesterling wrote: At 06:51 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: [snip for brevity[ So the U.S. Govt has never used linux anywhere? Wow. Not in most installations, and definitely not in DoD facilities. The Office of Inspector General has

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Kevin Walsh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lazily top-posted: Actually we have used RedHat Enterprise AS in the military has well. Perhaps you should use Windows in the military. It likes to bomb unexpectedly, and with no good reason, so the US military should feel very much at home with it. -- _/ _/ _/_/_/_/

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Tim Donahue
But don't forget one important point, at this point there is absolutly NO hardware support for running Asterisk under Windows. If you need hardware support (TDM Cards, etc) you will need to run Asterisk on a Linux based server. Tim Donahue On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 01:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread David McNett
On 01-Nov-2004, Tim Donahue wrote: But don't forget one important point, at this point there is absolutly NO hardware support for running Asterisk under Windows. If you need hardware support (TDM Cards, etc) you will need to run Asterisk on a Linux based server. Or a FreeBSD based server.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Me
for just the super geeks. -- Start Your Own ISP! http://www.YourOwnISP.com - Original Message - From: Tim Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:12:15 -0500, Tim Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But don't forget one important point, at this point there is absolutly NO hardware support for running Asterisk under Windows. If you need hardware support (TDM Cards, etc) you will need to run Asterisk on a Linux based

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:25:03 -0600, Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing is, why run it on Windows.. Even though there is a Windows version now it's not really a Windows version is a Linux version running on a version of Linux that will run on Windows.. YUCK.. That's like taking a Cadillac

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Craig Guy
such. Craig - Original Message - From: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows The thing is, why run it on Windows.. Even though there is a Windows

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:09 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows I haven't really looked into ASTWind too much but I assume there would be network access available to it? It might be useful for the purpose of providing

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Achilleus Papadopoulos
Graig, What is ITSP??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Guy Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:09 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread james
The trouble is innertia. Most Windoze folks are so much into their Windoze routine, they won't even use a Linux or BSD box if you install it for them. I have got a friend in the UK who is always complaining about his Windoze box being down and having to rebuild it from scratch because of

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Henry Devito
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:09 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows I haven't really looked into ASTWind too much but I assume there would be network access available to it? It might be useful for the purpose

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Craig Guy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows Graig, What is ITSP??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Jason Becker
james wrote: The trouble is innertia. Most Windoze folks are so much into their Windoze routine, they won't even use a Linux or BSD box if you install it for them. I have got a friend in the UK who is always complaining about his Windoze box being down and having to rebuild it from scratch because

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On 01 Nov 2004 11:16:31 -0500, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all very easily. When I started with Asterisk, there was finally something that got him interested because he's a telephone junkie. Well then, how did you expect your win-weenies to admin a hardware based phone system then? It

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread public
Asterisk is working only in Linux? Can not work in Windows 2000?   I'm an unashamed windows user. So I like to game, sue me ;) I'm surprised no one has mentioned VMware or virtualPC. I setup my first Asterisk system in VMware and when I wanted to drop a generic line card in an old 500mhz system

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of public Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:06 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows Asterisk is working only in Linux? Can not work in Windows 2000?   I'm an unashamed

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Samuel Luxford-Watts
invaluable for testing and development. Sam -Original Message- From: Michael Giagnocavo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 November 2004 18:13 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows You might also want to consider MS Virtual

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Henry Devito
: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:31 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows Does MS Virtual server support running linux? Thought you could only run windows on it? Vmware's server products are apparently very good

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Matt Schulte
I use VMware + (Generic linux flavor) + Asterisk, for testing. Works great, sound and mic work even. Kind of a bloated aproach seeing you need ~128meg ram to even boot the OS but still it's fun to play with.. Matt -Original Message- From: Michael Giagnocavo [mailto:[EMAIL

OT -- RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Jay Milk
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:06 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows The trouble is innertia. Most Windoze folks are so much into their Windoze routine, they won't even use a Linux or BSD box Not true

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread public
You might also want to consider MS Virtual Server, as it is geared more to running as a service. VMware workstation / VirtualPC are more like desktop tools (although I think they have some higher-end server-like products, but I haven't used them). Regarding VMware's workstation product,

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread public
Does MS Virtual server support running linux? Thought you could only run windows on it? Vmware's server products are apparently very good. Their Workstation product is really good, and has seamless support for many different OS's. We have used it here for almost two years now and its been

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread public
Does MS Virtual server support running linux? Thought you could only run windows on it? Vmware's server products are apparently very good. Their Workstation product is really good, and has seamless support for many different OS's. We have used it here for almost two years now and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Steve Totaro
VxWorks? - Original Message - From: public [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows Does MS Virtual server support running linux? Thought you

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread John Breeden
I run both VMware GSX and ESX servers. It should be noted that though asterisk runs under VMware, none of Digim's cards (or any other telephony cards) are available inside VMwares's virtual machines. It's just my opinion, but I don't think MS's virtual products currently conpare to GSX and ESX

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread John Breeden
Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote: In this respect, something like CoLinux and Astwind is definitely a good thing because it lowers that entry hurdle, even if only the perception thereof. rgds benjk When NT40 first came out, the company I worked for ported all of it's management

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread public
VxWorks? Apparently, http://www.computing.net/solaris/wwwboard/forum/3923.html -Bryan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:06:28 -0700, public [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm an unashamed windows user. Nobody is. It's like alcoholics, they don't admit that they have a drinking problem, because they can stop any time they like, right? So I like to game, sue me ;) Very good point. Leading right

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
] On Behalf Of Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:06:28 -0700, public [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm an unashamed windows user. Nobody

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Bryan Mannos
Very good point. Leading right to the only reason why Windoze even exists in the workplace: People who abuse their employers and waste their time at work with entertainment instead of doing their jobs. You can play with your toys at home, but there is absolutely no reason why your

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Jay Milk
ON WITH OUR LIVES. -Original Message- From: Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:06:28

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Brian Capouch
Jay Milk wrote: Why are you so angry? At the risk of throwing oil on the fire, I would submit that Benjamin was *kidding* at the beginning of that mail, and trolling at the end. I agree with him about the quit anytime I want, but I digress. . . It does appear his flamebait was eagerly pounced

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Jay Milk
List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows Jay Milk wrote: Why are you so angry? At the risk of throwing oil on the fire, I would submit that Benjamin was *kidding* at the beginning of that mail, and trolling at the end. I agree with him about

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread public
You can play with your toys at home, but there is absolutely no reason why your employer should provide you toys at work simply because you have them at home. [rest of sermon snipped] This is a joke right? While I'm amazed at your enlightenment of how a computer is supposed to be used, in my

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Karl J. Vesterling
As far as I understand, corporation, and Govt's like commercial products because of the issue of liability. That is why the Commercial market and Govt market don't accept open source solutions. What is perplexing about the whole situation is that the licensing agreements with commercial

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Tim Jackson
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl J. Vesterling Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:24 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows As far as I understand, corporation, and Govt's like commercial products because of the issue

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
As far as I understand, corporation, and Govt's like commercial products because of the issue of liability. That is why the Commercial market and Govt market don't accept open source solutions. Both governments (Germany anyone?) and commercial entities (quite a few people have made

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Matt Riddell
Jay Milk wrote: I make six figures from Windows. I have yet to earn a penny with Linux. That hardly makes your opinion unbiased. You are obviously a windows shop or you suggest windows. There are many of us who make our money mainly from Linux. -- Cheers, Matt Riddell

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Karl J. Vesterling
At 06:41 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: [ snip for brevity ] If I only ran linux, I'd not even be able to connect to the Internet, since all I have is an EVDO/CDMA PCMCIA modem that barely has working drivers for Windows. I wouldn't attempt to get on the highway riding a rusty old tricycle, nor

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
If I only ran linux, I'd not even be able to connect to the Internet, since all I have is an EVDO/CDMA PCMCIA modem that barely has working drivers for Windows. I wouldn't attempt to get on the highway riding a rusty old tricycle, nor would I entrust my penguin to such a device. Perhaps

Re: OT -- RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 13:32:03 -0600, Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we could keep the religious Windows vs. Linux discussions out of here? I think they're hardly productive, nor do they make people who argue for one or the other look very intelligent... Go back and read the entire

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Steve Underwood
Karl J. Vesterling wrote: At 06:41 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: [ snip for brevity ] If I only ran linux, I'd not even be able to connect to the Internet, since all I have is an EVDO/CDMA PCMCIA modem that barely has working drivers for Windows. I wouldn't attempt to get on the highway riding a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Karl J. Vesterling
At 06:51 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: [snip for brevity[ So the U.S. Govt has never used linux anywhere? Wow. Not in most installations, and definitely not in DoD facilities. The Office of Inspector General has deemed open source to be Verboten. That's going to become an interesting situation when

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Karl J. Vesterling
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Karl J. Vesterling Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:24 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows As far as I understand, corporation, and Govt's like commercial products because

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Steve Underwood
Its hard to get to the bottom of this. I've seen things on the internet saying open source in all forms is banned. I've also seem lots of things about deployments in the US government in general and the DoD in particular. I guess like most things the left hand never knows what the right hand

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Karl J. Vesterling
At 08:23 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: Try reading what people say before ranting. He has a *CDMA* modem. Can you offer him good modem support for a CDMA modem? If not, try to avoid making yourself look so foolish. Oh good gawd... I thought he was rambling some obscure sort of part number from some

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Karl J. Vesterling
There are exceptions to the rule... For instance, if an RFP contained requirements that only an open-source solution, or a solution written from scratch would provide the open source solution may be accepted on the grounds that it is the least cost solution. HOWEVER! One may have to file

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Jay Milk
: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows This has nothing to do with anger, but it has all to do with truthfulness. How many times have you had discussions with Windoze folks trying to give you good reasongs why Windoze should

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Tim Jackson
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl J. Vesterling Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:46 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows At 06:51 PM 11/1/2004, you wrote: [snip for brevity[   So the U.S. Govt has never used linux anywhere? Wow

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Brian Capouch
Jay Milk wrote: I'm not sure why I'm even discussing the benefits of one operating system over another with someone who can't even spell its name. Um, because he's an intelligent and insightful commentatator on the various aspects of VoIP in general and Asterisk in particular? People are

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Jay Milk
-Users] Linux and Windows Jay Milk wrote: I make six figures from Windows. I have yet to earn a penny with Linux. That hardly makes your opinion unbiased. You are obviously a windows shop or you suggest windows. There are many of us who make our money mainly from Linux

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-11-01 Thread Jay Milk
Jay Milk wrote: I'm not sure why I'm even discussing the benefits of one operating system over another with someone who can't even spell its name. Um, because he's an intelligent and insightful commentatator on the various aspects of VoIP in general and Asterisk in particular?

[Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-10-31 Thread Bilal Ghayad
Asterisk is working only in Linux? Can not work in Windows 2000? Please advise. Regards Bilal ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-10-31 Thread sgup015
I saw something on the Digium site a few days ago that Asterisk was available for MS based platforms. Its called AstWind. http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=astwind Cheers, Sahil Quoting Bilal Ghayad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Asterisk is working only in Linux? Can not work in Windows 2000?

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Linux and Windows

2004-10-31 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:46:46 +0300, Bilal Ghayad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asterisk is working only in Linux? Can not work in Windows 2000? You can have Asterisk on any operating system you like, as long as it is a proper operating system that actually deserves the name, that is to say a system