[asterisk-users] chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host:

2007-02-18 Thread broadbandvoice
I have followed all the install note for A2billing and have everything 
installed and configured and my asterisk works except the callingcard 
application. 
Added the following
[callingcard]
; CallingCard application
exten = 777,1,Answer
exten = 777,2,Wait,2
exten = 777,3,DeadAGI,a2billing.php
exten = 777,4,Wait,2
exten = 777,5,Hangup
I am using 777 as the calling card application. when I call that extension, 
instead of getting  please enter you pin number it fails and this is the 
output from the cli:
-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-e7ba, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 05:03:38 WARNING[11725]: chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host: 777
Feb 18 05:03:38 NOTICE[11725]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable to create 
channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)
  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-e7ba' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host:

2007-02-18 Thread Rob Hillis
I guess the obvious question would be whether the callingcard context 
is included into the context that the call is coming from.  That's the 
usual reason for a failure like this.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have followed all the install note for A2billing and have everything 
installed and configured and my asterisk works except the callingcard 
application.

Added the following
[callingcard]
; CallingCard application
exten = 777,1,Answer
exten = 777,2,Wait,2
exten = 777,3,DeadAGI,a2billing.php
exten = 777,4,Wait,2
exten = 777,5,Hangup
I am using 777 as the calling card application. when I call that 
extension, instead of getting  please enter you pin number it fails 
and this is the output from the cli:

-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-e7ba, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 05:03:38 WARNING[11725]: chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such 
host: 777
Feb 18 05:03:38 NOTICE[11725]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable 
to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)

  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-e7ba' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
Any Help will be greatly appreciated.


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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host:

2007-02-18 Thread broadbandvoice
Thanks Rob, that helped a little bit but now getting a different kind of error:

-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-3896, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 06:00:30 NOTICE[12236]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable to create 
channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)
  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-3896' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'


-- Original message -- 
From: Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I guess the obvious question would be whether the callingcard context is 
included into the context that the call is coming from.  That's the usual 
reason for a failure like this.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I have followed all the install note for A2billing and have everything 
installed and configured and my asterisk works except the callingcard 
application. 
Added the following
[callingcard]
; CallingCard application
exten = 777,1,Answer
exten = 777,2,Wait,2
exten = 777,3,DeadAGI,a2billing.php
exten = 777,4,Wait,2
exten = 777,5,Hangup
I am using 777 as the calling card application. when I call that extension, 
instead of getting  please enter you pin number it fails and this is the 
output from the cli:
-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-e7ba, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 05:03:38 WARNING[11725]: chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host: 777
Feb 18 05:03:38 NOTICE[11725]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable to create 
channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)
  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-e7ba' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
Any Help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Strange behaviour with Dial cmd

2007-02-18 Thread Tim Panton


On 15 Feb 2007, at 09:55, Yuan LIU wrote:


From: Il Neofita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:37:14 -0500

But I tought that hangup was suppose to close the call, however,  
is not the case and a really did not catch why.


Now I see where the confusion comes from.  Asterisk doesn't really  
speak English - or Chinese for that matter:-)  In telephony, there  
is no way for the callee to tell the caller to stop ringing -  
unless you answer it first.  Once you answer, you can do a number  
of things, the rudest being to immediately hang up. (I saw live  
people doing this intentionally.)  Your only other option really is  
to ignore.


That isn't exactly true - ISDN and IAX (SIP?) support the concept of  
rejecting a call without answering it.
The asterisk dial plan only supports this indirectly. If there is no  
extension that maps to the called number
in the relevant context then asterisk will reject the call without  
answering. I don't think this helps the OP's
situation, but for the sake of the archives I think its worth  
clarifying


Tim Panton

www.mexuar.net
www.westhawk.co.uk/



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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host:

2007-02-18 Thread Al Bochter

Its not right. I am using a2billing calling card and it works fine

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email

If you need to contract Customer Service
Please use our IAX2 WebPhone at the link below

http://www.bochterservices.com/voip/iaxphone.php



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have followed all the install note for A2billing and have everything 
installed and configured and my asterisk works except the callingcard 
application.

Added the following
[callingcard]
; CallingCard application
exten = 777,1,Answer
exten = 777,2,Wait,2
exten = 777,3,DeadAGI,a2billing.php
exten = 777,4,Wait,2
exten = 777,5,Hangup
I am using 777 as the calling card application. when I call that 
extension, instead of getting  please enter you pin number it fails 
and this is the output from the cli:

-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-e7ba, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 05:03:38 WARNING[11725]: chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such 
host: 777
Feb 18 05:03:38 NOTICE[11725]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable 
to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)

  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-e7ba' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
Any Help will be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host:

2007-02-18 Thread Al Bochter

nope

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email

If you need to contract Customer Service
Please use our IAX2 WebPhone at the link below

http://www.bochterservices.com/voip/iaxphone.php



Rob Hillis wrote:

I guess the obvious question would be whether the callingcard 
context is included into the context that the call is coming from.  
That's the usual reason for a failure like this.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have followed all the install note for A2billing and have 
everything installed and configured and my asterisk works except the 
callingcard application.

Added the following
[callingcard]
; CallingCard application
exten = 777,1,Answer
exten = 777,2,Wait,2
exten = 777,3,DeadAGI,a2billing.php
exten = 777,4,Wait,2
exten = 777,5,Hangup
I am using 777 as the calling card application. when I call that 
extension, instead of getting  please enter you pin number it fails 
and this is the output from the cli:

-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-e7ba, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 05:03:38 WARNING[11725]: chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such 
host: 777
Feb 18 05:03:38 NOTICE[11725]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable 
to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)

  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-e7ba' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
Any Help will be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Native format prompts

2007-02-18 Thread Time Bandit

I am trying to implement native format (ulaw) voice prompts and music on
hold. Different documentation has different file extensions. Does Asterisk
recognise them all? So far I have .ulaw .ul  .pcm . Which should I use so
Asterisk recognises them as native uLaw files
From what I know, .ulaw


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Re: [asterisk-users] Native format prompts

2007-02-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:19:27AM +1100, Eric Bishop wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to implement native format (ulaw) voice prompts and music on
 hold. Different documentation has different file extensions. Does Asterisk
 recognise them all? So far I have .ulaw .ul  .pcm . Which should I use so
 Asterisk recognises them as native uLaw files

What do you see on 'show file formats' ?

-- 
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+972-50-7952406   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk consultant needed in Paris

2007-02-18 Thread brian
Hi list,

We are looking for an Asterisk consultant for a 3 months mission in Paris. If 
you are interested, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Best regards,

Brian
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Re: [asterisk-users] Strange behaviour with Dial cmd

2007-02-18 Thread C F

Asterisk supports this directly by issuing the hangup command before
the answer command.  However, when using an analog interface like FXO
the line has no way of knowing you just hung up and will continue to
ring, which asterisk will see as a new call. in my experience even
when using a PRI if i dont give the pri cause the provider re
initiates the call.

On 2/18/07, Tim Panton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 15 Feb 2007, at 09:55, Yuan LIU wrote:

 From: Il Neofita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:37:14 -0500

 But I tought that hangup was suppose to close the call, however,
 is not the case and a really did not catch why.

 Now I see where the confusion comes from.  Asterisk doesn't really
 speak English - or Chinese for that matter:-)  In telephony, there
 is no way for the callee to tell the caller to stop ringing -
 unless you answer it first.  Once you answer, you can do a number
 of things, the rudest being to immediately hang up. (I saw live
 people doing this intentionally.)  Your only other option really is
 to ignore.

That isn't exactly true - ISDN and IAX (SIP?) support the concept of
rejecting a call without answering it.
The asterisk dial plan only supports this indirectly. If there is no
extension that maps to the called number
in the relevant context then asterisk will reject the call without
answering. I don't think this helps the OP's
situation, but for the sake of the archives I think its worth
clarifying

Tim Panton

www.mexuar.net
www.westhawk.co.uk/



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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host:

2007-02-18 Thread Ioan Indreias

Hello,
I'm not familiar with A2billing but for me it is strange that you dial 
SIP/777 - 777 should be an extension.


Could you post your user context - or at least the one which direct 
you to:

Dial(SIP/9614-3896, SIP/777|200|rt)

Best regards,
## nini @ www.modulo.ro ##



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Rob, that helped a little bit but now getting a different kind 
of error:
 
-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-3896, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 06:00:30 NOTICE[12236]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable 
to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)

  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-3896' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
 


-- Original message --
From: Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I guess the obvious question would be whether the callingcard
context is included into the context that the call is coming
from.  That's the usual reason for a failure like this.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have followed all the install note for A2billing and have
everything installed and configured and my asterisk works except
the callingcard application.
Added the following
[callingcard]
; CallingCard application
exten = 777,1,Answer
exten = 777,2,Wait,2
exten = 777,3,DeadAGI,a2billing.php
exten = 777,4,Wait,2
exten = 777,5,Hangup
I am using 777 as the calling card application. when I call that
extension, instead of getting  please enter you pin number it
fails and this is the output from the cli:
-- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-e7ba, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
Feb 18 05:03:38 WARNING[11725]: chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No
such host: 777
Feb 18 05:03:38 NOTICE[11725]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full:
Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to
destination)
  == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
  == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-e7ba' status is
'CHANUNAVAIL'
Any Help will be greatly appreciated.


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From:
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Date:
Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:43:59 +
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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No such host:

2007-02-18 Thread James Coberly
a2billing is your default context in the a2billing.conf file from setup,
if you have changed this, and also changed your context for your
card/sip entry to callingcard you should, when you dial from your phone,
be using the callingcard context.  Please check your SIP entry for your
phone in additional_a2billing_sip.conf to ensure that your context is
set to callingcard, not a2billing (default), and then reload you sip
config from the CLI.
Your phone that is registered sounds like it is not assigned to that
context by default.

J-



On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 20:38 +0200, Ioan Indreias wrote:

 Hello,
 I'm not familiar with A2billing but for me it is strange that you dial 
 SIP/777 - 777 should be an extension.
 
 Could you post your user context - or at least the one which direct 
 you to:
 Dial(SIP/9614-3896, SIP/777|200|rt)
 
 Best regards,
 ## nini @ www.modulo.ro ##
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Rob, that helped a little bit but now getting a different kind 
  of error:
   
  -- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-3896, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
  Feb 18 06:00:30 NOTICE[12236]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full: Unable 
  to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination)
== Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
== Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-3896' status is 'CHANUNAVAIL'
   
 
  -- Original message --
  From: Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I guess the obvious question would be whether the callingcard
  context is included into the context that the call is coming
  from.  That's the usual reason for a failure like this.
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have followed all the install note for A2billing and have
  everything installed and configured and my asterisk works except
  the callingcard application.
  Added the following
  [callingcard]
  ; CallingCard application
  exten = 777,1,Answer
  exten = 777,2,Wait,2
  exten = 777,3,DeadAGI,a2billing.php
  exten = 777,4,Wait,2
  exten = 777,5,Hangup
  I am using 777 as the calling card application. when I call that
  extension, instead of getting  please enter you pin number it
  fails and this is the output from the cli:
  -- Executing Dial(SIP/9614-e7ba, SIP/777|200|rt) in new stack
  Feb 18 05:03:38 WARNING[11725]: chan_sip.c:1968 create_addr: No
  such host: 777
  Feb 18 05:03:38 NOTICE[11725]: app_dial.c:1011 dial_exec_full:
  Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to
  destination)
== Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)
== Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/9614-e7ba' status is
  'CHANUNAVAIL'
  Any Help will be greatly appreciated.
  
  
 
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  Date:
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[asterisk-users] Looking for starting point?

2007-02-18 Thread Gary H. Thompson
Hi,

I am a retired telephone tech/manager who recently had a bad experience with a 
local company offering digital phone service (VoIP). I have spent the last 
thirty years in the PSTN network, switching, PBX and key system field and am 
interested in learning more about VoIP. My background also includes 
programming, mostly specialized applications to interact with the PSTN network. 
Most of my experience in this field have been with Borland products, 
specifically Delphi. I also have been involved with database programming, same 
platform as the communications.

My computer experience started with the operating system CPM (I'm not really 
that old, only 56). The best platform now seems to be Linux so now since I am 
retired now, it seems a good time to learn something new. I also have been 
looking at Asterisk which most companies seem to be using for a PBX platform. I 
found out by accident that the local company I had the problem with uses this 
PBX software.

Could someone steer me in the right direction as to where to start? I spent 
most of my career in the telephone industry in a 'bush' area of Alaska so 
pretty much had to teach myself what I needed to know about computers but I can 
learn almost anything from a book and by asking questions when I get stuck. 
Most of my experience was before the Internet so I plan on using this avenue to 
advance my knowledge. 

I understand what a broad scope I am asking about so would appreciate any tips 
to help me get started. Since there are many 'brands' of Linux what is the best 
one to start with? Which Linux will be better when I get to the point of 
working with Asterisk? Any tips or ideas on books, online tutors, discussions 
or anything of this nature would be much appreciated.

I hope to add to this group if I can be any assistance from the 'other side', 
the PSTN network.

Thank You,

Gary H. Thompson
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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with busydetect and cell phones

2007-02-18 Thread Stephen Bosch
Ryan McDaniel wrote:
 I have a very strange problem I'm hoping someone has encountered
 already.
 I've scoured the internet for an answer to this one.  My phone company
 provides no disconnect supervision.  Hence I'm forced to use the
 busydetect
 feature.  I have a TDM400 with two FXO ports.  If I call from an
 internal
 extension to a landline and then hangup the landline Asterisk detects
 the
 busy signal correctly and clears the line.  If I call from an internal
 extension to a cell phone and then hangup the cell phone Asterisk will 
 never
 detect the busy signal though it is clearly there.  Asterisk will
 happily
 sit there listening to the busy signal.  I suspect that the busy signal
 styles are slightly different though it is undetectable to me.  How can
 I
 fix this???  It causes severe issues when a call is forwarded to a cell
 phone via the Zap interfaces as once you hangup the cell phone Asterisk
 never releases the channel.

 
 The landlines are with ATT.  The cell phones I'm testing with are
 Cingular (ATT subsidiary).  There must be a subtle difference in the
 busy signals.  How can I make it catch busy signals from both carriers?

Have you tried calling ATT and asking for call disconnect supervision?

I realise that this can be a thankless and tedious endeavour, but it IS
worth trying. There are almost no commercial switches that don't support
this; it's a matter of activating it for the specific circuit in
software. Particularly if you have a business line -- you can demand it.
All PBXs need it if they use analog lines (and plenty still do) so I'm
sure this is not an alien concept to ATT. It's just a matter of finding
the right Earthling there who can help you.

This might be one of those times where a beer with the technician will
get you some joy, if calling Repair doesn't give you any joy.

-Stephen-
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Re: [asterisk-users] Summary of Trixbox vs. custom install

2007-02-18 Thread Time Bandit

I also include a consideration from mine: I would happily use
Trixbox, because I did FreePBX setup once and it was a real pain, but
I'm very frightened by a few issues:

1) Trixbox Macho installation that installs everything without
asking. I, for example, would like to use software RAID (maybe it's
wrong with Asterisk, but I want to do it!). I wouldn't like doing it
manually after Trixbox installation. I would like to have an
installer doing it for me. Centos (ex redhat) installer does it, so
why Trixbox choose to install everything without prompting?

You can just install CentOS with RAID and whatever you want, then use
the Trixbox tar package instead of the ISO. Still, why on earth did
the Trixbox team didn't leave the option of doing a custom install
with the ISO ?


2) How easy it is to find Trixbox SRPMS?  Is it possible to compile
new software (i.e. Asterisk or FreePBX, etc..) on Trixbox without
having to rewrite all the configuration files, changing all paths,
all permissions, and so on...

You can update Asterisk/zaptel/whatever by just downloading the source
and compiling it. My home system was installed with [EMAIL PROTECTED] on version
0.8 (if memory serves me right) and I upgraded Asterisk and Zaptel to
version 1.0.10 by downloading and compiling. I know, this is a really
old version and I should upgrade, but hey, it is doing everything I
need and it is stable (uptime of 315 days).

IMHO, Trixbox can me customized alot, but you need to know where and
what to modify. I believe that if you know enough about how Asterisk
work, you can get around Trixbox limitations. One thing to remember is
that the files you can modify are the _custom.conf files. Never touch
the _additional.conf files, they will get overwritten next time you
click Apply changes in the GUI. The normal base files (sip.conf.
iax.conf, etc) can be modified since the GUI doesn't touch them.

But I also think that there is nothing that can beat a plain install
as far as customization go. YMMV
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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for starting point?

2007-02-18 Thread Michael Welter

Go to your book store and get the Fedora/Linux reference.

Get yourself a PC with 20GB drives, a CD burner, and decent ram.  The PC 
should have either an i386 or x86_64 processor.  If you'll be purchasing 
a PC, go to the computer store, purchase the piece parts, and assemble 
it yourself (I like Athlon CPUs).


Since you have a PC and were able to post a message, go to 
http://fedora.redhat.com and follow the links to Documentation and then 
to Download.  Follow the link for your PC's architecture (i386 or 
x86_64) and then download the six ISO images.  Burn each image to a CD.


Install Linux.  Take all the defaults.  Load all packages.

When it's running, login as root and open the browser. Go to 
http://asterisk.org .  Take the download tab and download the five 
Asterisk 1.2 tar files into directory /usr/src.


'cd' to /usr/src.

Use 'tar xzf file' on each of the downloaded files.

Enter the zaptel directory and execute 'make', check for errors, and 
then 'make install' and 'make config'.


Enter the libpri directory and execute 'make;make install'.

Enter the asterisk directory and execute 'make', 'make install', and 
'make samples'.


Enter the asterisk-addons directory and execute 'make' and then 'make 
install'


Enter the asterisk-sounds directory and execute 'make install'.

Execute 'service zaptel start'--this will load the zap drivers.  These 
will also load on reboot.


Execute 'asterisk -c'.  This will start Asterisk.

N.B.  People spend years between step #1 and a running Asterisk system.

For help with asterisk, google on 'site:lists.digium.com search 
words'.  For the wiki, google on 'site:voip-info.org search words'. 
The wiki is most helpful.


Keep a blog of your experience and let other newbies learn from you.  :=)

Cheers,

Gary H. Thompson wrote:

Hi,

I am a retired telephone tech/manager who recently had a bad experience 
with a local company offering digital phone service (VoIP). I have spent 
the last thirty years in the PSTN network, switching, PBX and key system 
field and am interested in learning more about VoIP. My background also 
includes programming, mostly specialized applications to interact with 
the PSTN network. Most of my experience in this field have been with 
Borland products, specifically Delphi. I also have been involved with 
database programming, same platform as the communications.


My computer experience started with the operating system CPM (I’m not 
really that old, only 56). The best platform now seems to be ƒ so 
now since I am retired now, it seems a good time to learn something new. 
I also have been looking at Asterisk which most companies seem to be 
using for a PBX platform. I found out by accident that the local company 
I had the problem with uses this PBX software.


Could someone steer me in the right direction as to where to start? I 
spent most of my career in the telephone industry in a ‘bush’ area of 
Alaska so pretty much had to teach myself what I needed to know about 
computers but I can learn almost anything from a book and by asking 
questions when I get stuck. Most of my experience was before the 
Internet so I plan on using this avenue to advance my knowledge.


I understand what a broad scope I am asking about so would appreciate 
any tips to help me get started. Since there are many ‘brands’ of Linux 
what is the best one to start with? Which Linux will be better when I 
get to the point of working with Asterisk? Any tips or ideas on book s, 
online tutors, discussions or anything of this nature would be much 
appreciated.


I hope to add to this group if I can be any assistance from the ‘other 
side’, the PSTN network.


Thank You,

Gary H. Thompson




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RE: [asterisk-users] Problem with busydetect and cell phones

2007-02-18 Thread Ryan McDaniel

Original Message-
 
Ryan McDaniel wrote:
 I have a very strange problem I'm hoping someone has encountered
 already.
 I've scoured the internet for an answer to this one.  My phone
company
 provides no disconnect supervision.  Hence I'm forced to use the
 busydetect
 feature.  I have a TDM400 with two FXO ports.  If I call from an
 internal
 extension to a landline and then hangup the landline Asterisk detects
 the
 busy signal correctly and clears the line.  If I call from an
internal
 extension to a cell phone and then hangup the cell phone Asterisk
will 
 never
 detect the busy signal though it is clearly there.  Asterisk will
 happily
 sit there listening to the busy signal.  I suspect that the busy
signal
 styles are slightly different though it is undetectable to me.  How
can
 I
 fix this???  It causes severe issues when a call is forwarded to a
cell
 phone via the Zap interfaces as once you hangup the cell phone
Asterisk
 never releases the channel.

 
 The landlines are with ATT.  The cell phones I'm testing with are
 Cingular (ATT subsidiary).  There must be a subtle difference in the
 busy signals.  How can I make it catch busy signals from both
carriers?

Have you tried calling ATT and asking for call disconnect supervision?

I realise that this can be a thankless and tedious endeavour, but it IS
worth trying. There are almost no commercial switches that don't support
this; it's a matter of activating it for the specific circuit in
software. Particularly if you have a business line -- you can demand it.
All PBXs need it if they use analog lines (and plenty still do) so I'm
sure this is not an alien concept to ATT. It's just a matter of finding
the right Earthling there who can help you.

This might be one of those times where a beer with the technician will
get you some joy, if calling Repair doesn't give you any joy.

-Stephen-


Unfortunately I tried that.  Apparently my lines are on one of the last
really ancient junction boxes in Southern California.  When using
busydetect is it looking for any on / off repetitive sound to identify
the busy signal, or for a specific length sound as defined in the
indications.conf region?  I'd really like to avoid using callprogress if
possible.  Is there a way to tweak it so it will accept a wider variety
of busy patterns?

- Ryan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for starting point?

2007-02-18 Thread John Novack



Michael Welter wrote:

Go to your book store and get the Fedora/Linux reference.

Not to start a religious argument here, but it seems from reading the 
list that the CentOS flavors have fewer problems




Install Linux.  Take all the defaults.  Load all packages.

When it's running, login as root and open the browser. Go to 
http://asterisk.org .  Take the download tab and download the five 
Asterisk 1.2 tar files into directory /usr/src.

Also get the book, Asterisk the future of telephony  free for the taking.

John Novack

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for starting point?

2007-02-18 Thread Paul
Another perspective:

Fedora is not the only linux distro. If I did use it, I would be
building RPM rather than doing local builds on the target asterisk
server. I use debian so I build deb files instead of rpm files.

Here is a good way to get started using debian linux and some cheap old
hardware:

http://www.xorcom.com/rapid/index.html

Install the above just to play around a bit. Why buy any new hardware
before you need it? The longer you wait, the more performance you get
for your money.

Michael Welter wrote:

 Go to your book store and get the Fedora/Linux reference.

 Get yourself a PC with 20GB drives, a CD burner, and decent ram.  The
 PC should have either an i386 or x86_64 processor.  If you'll be
 purchasing a PC, go to the computer store, purchase the piece parts,
 and assemble it yourself (I like Athlon CPUs).

 Since you have a PC and were able to post a message, go to
 http://fedora.redhat.com and follow the links to Documentation and
 then to Download.  Follow the link for your PC's architecture (i386 or
 x86_64) and then download the six ISO images.  Burn each image to a CD.

 Install Linux.  Take all the defaults.  Load all packages.

 When it's running, login as root and open the browser. Go to
 http://asterisk.org .  Take the download tab and download the five
 Asterisk 1.2 tar files into directory /usr/src.

 'cd' to /usr/src.

 Use 'tar xzf file' on each of the downloaded files.

 Enter the zaptel directory and execute 'make', check for errors, and
 then 'make install' and 'make config'.

 Enter the libpri directory and execute 'make;make install'.

 Enter the asterisk directory and execute 'make', 'make install', and
 'make samples'.

 Enter the asterisk-addons directory and execute 'make' and then 'make
 install'

 Enter the asterisk-sounds directory and execute 'make install'.

 Execute 'service zaptel start'--this will load the zap drivers.  These
 will also load on reboot.

 Execute 'asterisk -c'.  This will start Asterisk.

 N.B.  People spend years between step #1 and a running Asterisk system.

 For help with asterisk, google on 'site:lists.digium.com search
 words'.  For the wiki, google on 'site:voip-info.org search words'.
 The wiki is most helpful.

 Keep a blog of your experience and let other newbies learn from you.  :=)

 Cheers,

 Gary H. Thompson wrote:

 Hi,

 I am a retired telephone tech/manager who recently had a bad
 experience with a local company offering digital phone service
 (VoIP). I have spent the last thirty years in the PSTN network,
 switching, PBX and key system field and am interested in learning
 more about VoIP. My background also includes programming, mostly
 specialized applications to interact with the PSTN network. Most of
 my experience in this field have been with Borland products,
 specifically Delphi. I also have been involved with database
 programming, same platform as the communications.

 My computer experience started with the operating system CPM (I’m not
 really that old, only 56). The best platform now seems to be ƒ so now
 since I am retired now, it seems a good time to learn something new.
 I also have been looking at Asterisk which most companies seem to be
 using for a PBX platform. I found out by accident that the local
 company I had the problem with uses this PBX software.

 Could someone steer me in the right direction as to where to start? I
 spent most of my career in the telephone industry in a ‘bush’ area of
 Alaska so pretty much had to teach myself what I needed to know about
 computers but I can learn almost anything from a book and by asking
 questions when I get stuck. Most of my experience was before the
 Internet so I plan on using this avenue to advance my knowledge.

 I understand what a broad scope I am asking about so would appreciate
 any tips to help me get started. Since there are many ‘brands’ of
 Linux what is the best one to start with? Which Linux will be better
 when I get to the point of working with Asterisk? Any tips or ideas
 on book s, online tutors, discussions or anything of this nature
 would be much appreciated.

 I hope to add to this group if I can be any assistance from the
 ‘other side’, the PSTN network.

 Thank You,

 Gary H. Thompson


 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Disconnection supervision: what about PBX

2007-02-18 Thread Stephen Bosch
Hi, Trevor:

Trevor G. Hammonds wrote:
 Stephen Bosch wrote:
 Are BRI circuits what phone companies call digital lines for use
 with digital sets, such as with digital Centrex?

 I'm not aware that Telus even offers BRI.

 Sorry -- BRI is ISDN, not digital Centrex.

 I'm still not aware that Telus even offers ISDN anymore :)
 ...and by that I mean ISDN BRI ;)

 -Stephen-
 
 Throughout most of the United States, Digital Centrex or CentrexIS is
 ISDN as part of a Centrex group.  If the circuit is meant for a single
 device, it would be a BRI.  If the circuit is Hi-Cap or meant to be hooked
 up to a PBX or the like, it would be a PRI.  
 
 I am not that familiar with Telus, but what Bell is calling Digital Voice
 service is merely VoIP over one of their DSL connections.  While I know that
 both companies offer Centrex over PRI, I am unsure if either company
 supports BRI widely anymore.  I know BRI service is available, and most of
 their switches are capable of offering BRI circuits.  For example, digital
 secretarial enhanced key telephone sets are ISDN phones that work via a BRI.

 In my experience, most telcos in the US and Canada will not tell you about
 BRI unless you specifically ask.  And if you do, they shuffle you off to
 another department where they may or may not know how to properly provision
 the circuit.  Somehow, all the LECs in North American look at BRI as a
 data-only service and never really saw the advantages of offering it to
 voice-only customers.  As such, now that 128k (or 144k) is too slow of a
 data connection for most, BRI has just been passed by.  Such a shame...

I can still find information pages on BRI on the Telus website (buried,
but there); as you point out, though, they refer to data connections only.

I am going to give it a try and see what I come up with.

There's every possibility they'll offer it but at a ridiculous price,
just to discourage adoption enough to let them phase it out. I'll bet
that this stuff will disappear when the switching equipment is upgraded.

-Stephen-

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
It will do so automatically if it is working.  Asterisk will stuff those 
digits into ${EXTEN}, therefore you need an exten = _XXX,1,Whatever if 
you are expecting 3 digits.


Until recently we had DID service from our telco on an EM Wink 
channelized voice T-1.  The above is what we did.


David Ruggles wrote:

Yuan (and Matt),

Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry I kind of vented, I just got very frustrated
with trying to configure Asterisk for what (in a proprietary PBX) is
normally one of the easiest parts of configuration.

With a wink start T1 the DNIS digits are transmitted in-band. The Network
goes off hook, the PBX winks (goes off hook for 200ms) and then the network
sends DNIS (and ANI if used) as DTMF tones, after the PBX gets the tones it
answers the call (goes off hook). So you would tell the PBX to look for x
number of digits and then after getting that number of digits it will answer
the call. I have the Sangoma A101 configured for wink start, but I can't
find anything that says how to specify the number DNIS digits to expect. If
the PBX answers the call instead of just winking, the DTMF tones will be
transmitted during the call which is what seems to be happening here.

For more specific information a good overview of the wink start process can
be found here:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
1123bb.shtml#topic2a


Can anyone tell me how to configure Asterisk to pickup the DNIS digits off a
wink start T1?

Thanks,

David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yuan LIU
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:57 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

Matt already replied to your other posting of similar content.  I'm also a 
bit confused.  Do you mean you have observed that Asterisk is brought into 
the intended context, but start to react to digits in DNIS one after 
another?  If so, can you estimate the interval Asterisk stays in each 
extension?


If this is true, it seems to suggest that your provider is sending DNIS as a

DTMF string after Asterisk has answered the call.  Isn't this a bit weird?  
What does the card's manual say about DNIS (with wink start)?


Yuan Liu


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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Michael Winstead wrote:
A PRI connection is required to pass DNIS digits. Just a 24 channel wink 
start T-1 with no D channel will not pass DNIS.


That would depend on how you define DNIS.  Dialed Number Identification 
Service.  Most of the time the DNIS is the same as EXTEN, since the 
dialed number is the dialed extension.  The only time this might not be 
the case is of someone dialed a number that was forwarded to a number on 
your Asterisk.  If you don't care about such situations then a 
Channelized Voice T-1 will work just fine for DID service.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Strange behaviour with Dial cmd

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

C F wrote:

Asterisk supports this directly by issuing the hangup command before
the answer command.  However, when using an analog interface like FXO
the line has no way of knowing you just hung up and will continue to
ring, which asterisk will see as a new call. in my experience even
when using a PRI if i dont give the pri cause the provider re
initiates the call.


This would only happen if you blindly run two Dial lines in sequence in 
your dialplan.  Don't do this.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for starting point?

2007-02-18 Thread Lee Jenkins

Gary H. Thompson wrote:

Hi,

Most of my experience in this field have been with 
Borland products, specifically Delphi. I also have been involved with 
database programming, same platform as the communications.


I can't tell you anything more helpful than Michael has.  I purchased a 
tomb called Fedora 5 and Red Hat Enterprise Bible form Wiley press, 
which has been very helpful.


Also I would suggest purchasing or downloading Asterisk The Future of 
Telephony.  See the Asterisk Doc project:


http://www.asteriskdocs.org

I personally like a paper book to have around.

I am a Delphi man myself.  As you become more familiar with and 
comfortable with Asterisk, you'll inevitably want to customize 
Asterisk's behavior through one of the interfaces available.


One of the most common is the AGI interface which allows Asterisk to 
communicate with external programs through standard input and standard 
output (ie: Writeln(), Readln()).  You can call these external programs 
directly from the dialplan and most people seem to prefer PHP, bash or 
other integrated scripting.


Being a Delphi programmer as well, I wanted to let you know that I have 
had great success in using open source FreePascal and Lazarus IDE for 
developing linux based executables for the AGI interface which are 
basically just console type programs.  I personally prefer using 
binaries because I think they execute faster than interpreted languages.


I wrote a Cepstral Text to Speech wrapper using those tools not too long 
ago.  Info and source is available on the wiki:


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DTSwift+Cepstral+AGI+Wrapper

When you're at the point where you want to start writing AGI and you if 
you decide to try freepascal/lazarus, that may help you get an idea of 
writing an AGI using FP/Laz.


Welcome to the community.

--

Warm Regards,

Lee

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Re: [asterisk-users] Strange behaviour with Dial cmd

2007-02-18 Thread Il Neofita

Yes, but I would like to try a number and after to try a second one.
Any Idea how to avoid this.

On 2/18/07, Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


C F wrote:
 Asterisk supports this directly by issuing the hangup command before
 the answer command.  However, when using an analog interface like FXO
 the line has no way of knowing you just hung up and will continue to
 ring, which asterisk will see as a new call. in my experience even
 when using a PRI if i dont give the pri cause the provider re
 initiates the call.

This would only happen if you blindly run two Dial lines in sequence in
your dialplan.  Don't do this.
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Re:[asterisk-users] Looking for starting point?

2007-02-18 Thread jacobso1
hi,

hi, i did wrote (assembler) programs for cp/m!

if your experience is more on telephony', i think you will find trixbox
easier. in one cd you will have a ready system.
if your hardware is fully recognized, great !
do not use a too old machine nor a too new one.
mind that the install will erase your hd. so buy a new cd if you would want to
go back to windows.

a 'normal' distribution will allow for dual-boot (not trixbox).
mandrake, suse, fedora, red-hat  centeos are good candidate.
(k)ubuntu, debian, ... are also nice one
but then you would have to download, compile, setup all.

this could be harder to learn. but you learn a deeper way

maybe go to a linux group in your neighborhood most people there are happy to
welcome a newbie. buy some books about linux and stick with one distribution
(you can change later)

my 2c from a young chap of nearly 48

t. jacobson

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From  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To  : asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
CC  :
Date  : Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:05:15 -0500
Subject : [asterisk-users] Looking for starting point?

 Hi,

 I am a retired telephone tech/manager who recently had a bad experience with
a local company offering digital phone service (VoIP). I have spent the last
thirty years in the PSTN network, switching, PBX and key system field and am
interested in learning more about VoIP. My background also includes
programming, mostly specialized applications to interact with the PSTN
network. Most of my experience in this field have been with Borland products,
specifically Delphi. I also have been involved with database programming, same
platform as the communications.

 My computer experience started with the operating system CPM (I'm not really
that old, only 56). The best platform now seems to be Linux so now since I am
retired now, it seems a good time to learn something new. I also have been
looking at Asterisk which most companies seem to be using for a PBX platform.
I found out by accident that the local company I had the problem with uses
this PBX software.

 Could someone steer me in the right direction as to where to start? I spent
most of my career in the telephone industry in a 'bush' area of Alaska so
pretty much had to teach myself what I needed to know about computers but I
can learn almost anything from a book and by asking questions when I get
stuck. Most of my experience was before the Internet so I plan on using this
avenue to advance my knowledge.

 I understand what a broad scope I am asking about so would appreciate any
tips to help me get started. Since there are many 'brands' of Linux what is
the best one to start with? Which Linux will be better when I get to the point
of working with Asterisk? Any tips or ideas on books, online tutors,
discussions or anything of this nature would be much appreciated.

 I hope to add to this group if I can be any assistance from the 'other
side', the PSTN network.

 Thank You,

 Gary H. Thompson

 
---
Scarlet One Unlimited
Free national calls, surf up to 6 Mbit/s, 50 GB download volume
For only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom subscription needed.  All in!
http://www.scarlet.be

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[asterisk-users] HT488 doesn't disconnect FXO

2007-02-18 Thread Itamar Lavender
Hi,

I have HT488 with it's FXO connected to Israeli PSTN (bezeq) when
dialing to that PSTN line asterisk see gets the call and direct it to
the right extension but if the extension doesn't answer and the dialer
is hanging the call the extension will keep on ringing.
I'm not an expert but it seems like my asterisk doesn't recognize the
hangup signal from the HT488 -or it's the HT88 which doesn't hangup upon
the signal.

this is my HT488 FXO config:
PSTN Disconnect Tone: Frequency: f1 420 f2 420
PSTN Disconnect Tone Cadence:Choice 1: On 500ms Off 500ms

Asterisk SVN-trunk-r48967

could someone please help?

Thanks,
Itamar.

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Re: [asterisk-users] HT488 doesn't disconnect FXO

2007-02-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 10:55:20PM +0200, Itamar Lavender wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have HT488 with it's FXO connected to Israeli PSTN (bezeq) when
 dialing to that PSTN line asterisk see gets the call and direct it to
 the right extension but if the extension doesn't answer and the dialer
 is hanging the call the extension will keep on ringing.
 I'm not an expert but it seems like my asterisk doesn't recognize the
 hangup signal from the HT488 -or it's the HT88 which doesn't hangup upon
 the signal.

Chances are that the unit does not have proper busy detection. Perhaps
it does not know how the Israeli busy tone sounds like.

And no: Bezeq does not provide any better disconnect supervision.

 
 this is my HT488 FXO config:
 PSTN Disconnect Tone: Frequency: f1 420 f2 420

Try 400?

 PSTN Disconnect Tone Cadence:Choice 1: On 500ms Off 500ms
 
 Asterisk SVN-trunk-r48967

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Ron Fox
Arriving late to this discussion, sorry if this has already been mentioned
but DNIS and ANI can be variable length without confusion if the sender
uses the * DTMF tone as a delimiter. Thus sending *ANI*DNIS* (pronounced
Star ANI Star DNIS Star allows the receiver to identify the two values
unambiguously and to find the trailing boundary (when the 3rd * has been
received).

We have a Channelized Voice T1 from a long distance provider that is set
up this way into our non-Asterisk PBX where the provider sends us ANI as
the full originating phone number and DNIS as the last 4 digits.  So the
DTMF string seen by our PBX for someone calling one of our toll-free
numbers, say 800-123-4567, from a local phone in Hawaii, say 808-555-1313,
would be *8085551313*4567*.  The PBX parses this string and uses the
last 4 digits DNIS to route the call from the T1 trunk group to the proper
internal extension or hunt group.

Do Asterisk and Digium or Sangoma T1/E1 cards know about delimited ANI and 
DNIS?
 
--Ron

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:

 It will do so automatically if it is working.  Asterisk will stuff those 
 digits into ${EXTEN}, therefore you need an exten = _XXX,1,Whatever if 
 you are expecting 3 digits.
 
 Until recently we had DID service from our telco on an EM Wink 
 channelized voice T-1.  The above is what we did.
 
 David Ruggles wrote:
  Yuan (and Matt),
  
  Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry I kind of vented, I just got very frustrated
  with trying to configure Asterisk for what (in a proprietary PBX) is
  normally one of the easiest parts of configuration.
  
  With a wink start T1 the DNIS digits are transmitted in-band. The Network
  goes off hook, the PBX winks (goes off hook for 200ms) and then the network
  sends DNIS (and ANI if used) as DTMF tones, after the PBX gets the tones it
  answers the call (goes off hook). So you would tell the PBX to look for x
  number of digits and then after getting that number of digits it will answer
  the call. I have the Sangoma A101 configured for wink start, but I can't
  find anything that says how to specify the number DNIS digits to expect. If
  the PBX answers the call instead of just winking, the DTMF tones will be
  transmitted during the call which is what seems to be happening here.
  
  For more specific information a good overview of the wink start process can
  be found here:
  http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
  1123bb.shtml#topic2a
  
  
  Can anyone tell me how to configure Asterisk to pickup the DNIS digits off a
  wink start T1?
  
  Thanks,
  
  David Ruggles
  CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
  Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
  (910) 285-7200  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yuan LIU
  Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:57 PM
  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?
  
  Matt already replied to your other posting of similar content.  I'm also a 
  bit confused.  Do you mean you have observed that Asterisk is brought into 
  the intended context, but start to react to digits in DNIS one after 
  another?  If so, can you estimate the interval Asterisk stays in each 
  extension?
  
  If this is true, it seems to suggest that your provider is sending DNIS as a
  
  DTMF string after Asterisk has answered the call.  Isn't this a bit weird?  
  What does the card's manual say about DNIS (with wink start)?
  
  Yuan Liu

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Re: [asterisk-users] HT488 doesn't disconnect FXO

2007-02-18 Thread Itamar Lavender
when directing the calls to the HT488 FXS instead of asterisk it does
disconnect! that's why I believe this is has to do with asterisk in it's
busy/hangup tone detection.

Itamar.


On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 23:09 +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 Chances are that the unit does not have proper busy detection. Perhaps
 it does not know how the Israeli busy tone sounds like.
 
 And no: Bezeq does not provide any better disconnect supervision.
 
  
  this is my HT488 FXO config:
  PSTN Disconnect Tone: Frequency: f1 420 f2 420
 
 Try 400?
 
  PSTN Disconnect Tone Cadence:Choice 1: On 500ms Off 500ms
  
  Asterisk SVN-trunk-r48967
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Matt

Why would the card care?  This would be something you'd take care of in your
dialplan.

On 2/18/07, Ron Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Arriving late to this discussion, sorry if this has already been mentioned
but DNIS and ANI can be variable length without confusion if the sender
uses the * DTMF tone as a delimiter. Thus sending *ANI*DNIS* (pronounced
Star ANI Star DNIS Star allows the receiver to identify the two values
unambiguously and to find the trailing boundary (when the 3rd * has been
received).

We have a Channelized Voice T1 from a long distance provider that is set
up this way into our non-Asterisk PBX where the provider sends us ANI as
the full originating phone number and DNIS as the last 4 digits.  So the
DTMF string seen by our PBX for someone calling one of our toll-free
numbers, say 800-123-4567, from a local phone in Hawaii, say 808-555-1313,
would be *8085551313*4567*.  The PBX parses this string and uses the
last 4 digits DNIS to route the call from the T1 trunk group to the proper
internal extension or hunt group.

Do Asterisk and Digium or Sangoma T1/E1 cards know about delimited ANI and
DNIS?

--Ron

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:

 It will do so automatically if it is working.  Asterisk will stuff those
 digits into ${EXTEN}, therefore you need an exten = _XXX,1,Whatever if
 you are expecting 3 digits.

 Until recently we had DID service from our telco on an EM Wink
 channelized voice T-1.  The above is what we did.

 David Ruggles wrote:
  Yuan (and Matt),
 
  Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry I kind of vented, I just got very
frustrated
  with trying to configure Asterisk for what (in a proprietary PBX) is
  normally one of the easiest parts of configuration.
 
  With a wink start T1 the DNIS digits are transmitted in-band. The
Network
  goes off hook, the PBX winks (goes off hook for 200ms) and then the
network
  sends DNIS (and ANI if used) as DTMF tones, after the PBX gets the
tones it
  answers the call (goes off hook). So you would tell the PBX to look
for x
  number of digits and then after getting that number of digits it will
answer
  the call. I have the Sangoma A101 configured for wink start, but I
can't
  find anything that says how to specify the number DNIS digits to
expect. If
  the PBX answers the call instead of just winking, the DTMF tones will
be
  transmitted during the call which is what seems to be happening here.
 
  For more specific information a good overview of the wink start
process can
  be found here:
 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
  1123bb.shtml#topic2a
 
 
  Can anyone tell me how to configure Asterisk to pickup the DNIS digits
off a
  wink start T1?
 
  Thanks,
 
  David Ruggles
  CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
  Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
  (910) 285-7200  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yuan LIU
  Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:57 PM
  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?
 
  Matt already replied to your other posting of similar content.  I'm
also a
  bit confused.  Do you mean you have observed that Asterisk is brought
into
  the intended context, but start to react to digits in DNIS one after
  another?  If so, can you estimate the interval Asterisk stays in each
  extension?
 
  If this is true, it seems to suggest that your provider is sending
DNIS as a
 
  DTMF string after Asterisk has answered the call.  Isn't this a bit
weird?
  What does the card's manual say about DNIS (with wink start)?
 
  Yuan Liu

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Matt

BTW.  This seems kinda backwards.  Why not just get a PRI.  PRIs have all
the intelligence you need to do it right.

On 2/18/07, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why would the card care?  This would be something you'd take care of in
your dialplan.

On 2/18/07, Ron Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Arriving late to this discussion, sorry if this has already been
 mentioned
 but DNIS and ANI can be variable length without confusion if the sender
 uses the * DTMF tone as a delimiter. Thus sending *ANI*DNIS*
 (pronounced
 Star ANI Star DNIS Star allows the receiver to identify the two values

 unambiguously and to find the trailing boundary (when the 3rd * has
 been
 received).

 We have a Channelized Voice T1 from a long distance provider that is set
 up this way into our non-Asterisk PBX where the provider sends us ANI as

 the full originating phone number and DNIS as the last 4 digits.  So
 the
 DTMF string seen by our PBX for someone calling one of our toll-free
 numbers, say 800-123-4567, from a local phone in Hawaii, say
 808-555-1313,
 would be *8085551313*4567*.  The PBX parses this string and uses the
 last 4 digits DNIS to route the call from the T1 trunk group to the
 proper
 internal extension or hunt group.

 Do Asterisk and Digium or Sangoma T1/E1 cards know about delimited ANI
 and
 DNIS?

 --Ron

 On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:

  It will do so automatically if it is working.  Asterisk will stuff
 those
  digits into ${EXTEN}, therefore you need an exten = _XXX,1,Whatever
 if
  you are expecting 3 digits.
 
  Until recently we had DID service from our telco on an EM Wink
  channelized voice T-1.  The above is what we did.
 
  David Ruggles wrote:
   Yuan (and Matt),
  
   Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry I kind of vented, I just got very
 frustrated
   with trying to configure Asterisk for what (in a proprietary PBX) is
   normally one of the easiest parts of configuration.
  
   With a wink start T1 the DNIS digits are transmitted in-band. The
 Network
   goes off hook, the PBX winks (goes off hook for 200ms) and then the
 network
   sends DNIS (and ANI if used) as DTMF tones, after the PBX gets the
 tones it
   answers the call (goes off hook). So you would tell the PBX to look
 for x
   number of digits and then after getting that number of digits it
 will answer
   the call. I have the Sangoma A101 configured for wink start, but I
 can't
   find anything that says how to specify the number DNIS digits to
 expect. If
   the PBX answers the call instead of just winking, the DTMF tones
 will be
   transmitted during the call which is what seems to be happening
 here.
  
   For more specific information a good overview of the wink start
 process can
   be found here:
  
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
   1123bb.shtml#topic2a
  
  
   Can anyone tell me how to configure Asterisk to pickup the DNIS
 digits off a
   wink start T1?
  
   Thanks,
  
   David Ruggles
   CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
   Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
   (910) 285-7200   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yuan
 LIU
   Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:57 PM
   To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
   Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?
  
   Matt already replied to your other posting of similar content.  I'm
 also a
   bit confused.  Do you mean you have observed that Asterisk is
 brought into
   the intended context, but start to react to digits in DNIS one after
   another?  If so, can you estimate the interval Asterisk stays in
 each
   extension?
  
   If this is true, it seems to suggest that your provider is sending
 DNIS as a
  
   DTMF string after Asterisk has answered the call.  Isn't this a bit
 weird?
   What does the card's manual say about DNIS (with wink start)?
  
   Yuan Liu

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Re: [asterisk-users] Strange behaviour with Dial cmd

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Check the value of DIALSTATUS then decide of you want to dial the 2nd 
number.  See [macro-std-exten] in extensions.conf for an example of 
checking the value of DIALSTATUS.


The only time you might want two Dial lines in a row is if you always, 
not matter what, want to dial the 2nd number.


Il Neofita wrote:

Yes, but I would like to try a number and after to try a second one.
Any Idea how to avoid this.

On 2/18/07, *Eric ManxPower Wieling*  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


C F wrote:
  Asterisk supports this directly by issuing the hangup command before
  the answer command.  However, when using an analog interface like FXO
  the line has no way of knowing you just hung up and will continue to
  ring, which asterisk will see as a new call. in my experience even
  when using a PRI if i dont give the pri cause the provider re
  initiates the call.

This would only happen if you blindly run two Dial lines in sequence in
your dialplan.  Don't do this.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Ron Fox
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Matt wrote:

 Why would the card care?  This would be something you'd take care of in your
 dialplan.

Right, the card wouldn't care.  So does Asterisk know about how to send 
and receive delimited ANI and DNIS through a channelized voice T1?

--Ron
 
 On 2/18/07, Ron Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Arriving late to this discussion, sorry if this has already been mentioned
  but DNIS and ANI can be variable length without confusion if the sender
  uses the * DTMF tone as a delimiter. Thus sending *ANI*DNIS* (pronounced
  Star ANI Star DNIS Star allows the receiver to identify the two values
  unambiguously and to find the trailing boundary (when the 3rd * has been
  received).
 
  We have a Channelized Voice T1 from a long distance provider that is set
  up this way into our non-Asterisk PBX where the provider sends us ANI as
  the full originating phone number and DNIS as the last 4 digits.  So the
  DTMF string seen by our PBX for someone calling one of our toll-free
  numbers, say 800-123-4567, from a local phone in Hawaii, say 808-555-1313,
  would be *8085551313*4567*.  The PBX parses this string and uses the
  last 4 digits DNIS to route the call from the T1 trunk group to the proper
  internal extension or hunt group.
 
  Do Asterisk and Digium or Sangoma T1/E1 cards know about delimited ANI and
  DNIS?
 
  --Ron
 
  On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 
   It will do so automatically if it is working.  Asterisk will stuff those
   digits into ${EXTEN}, therefore you need an exten = _XXX,1,Whatever if
   you are expecting 3 digits.
  
   Until recently we had DID service from our telco on an EM Wink
   channelized voice T-1.  The above is what we did.
  
   David Ruggles wrote:
Yuan (and Matt),
   
Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry I kind of vented, I just got very
  frustrated
with trying to configure Asterisk for what (in a proprietary PBX) is
normally one of the easiest parts of configuration.
   
With a wink start T1 the DNIS digits are transmitted in-band. The
  Network
goes off hook, the PBX winks (goes off hook for 200ms) and then the
  network
sends DNIS (and ANI if used) as DTMF tones, after the PBX gets the
  tones it
answers the call (goes off hook). So you would tell the PBX to look
  for x
number of digits and then after getting that number of digits it will
  answer
the call. I have the Sangoma A101 configured for wink start, but I
  can't
find anything that says how to specify the number DNIS digits to
  expect. If
the PBX answers the call instead of just winking, the DTMF tones will
  be
transmitted during the call which is what seems to be happening here.
   
For more specific information a good overview of the wink start
  process can
be found here:
   
  http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
1123bb.shtml#topic2a
   
   
Can anyone tell me how to configure Asterisk to pickup the DNIS digits
  off a
wink start T1?
   
Thanks,
   
David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yuan LIU
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:57 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?
   
Matt already replied to your other posting of similar content.  I'm
  also a
bit confused.  Do you mean you have observed that Asterisk is brought
  into
the intended context, but start to react to digits in DNIS one after
another?  If so, can you estimate the interval Asterisk stays in each
extension?
   
If this is true, it seems to suggest that your provider is sending
  DNIS as a
   
DTMF string after Asterisk has answered the call.  Isn't this a bit
  weird?
What does the card's manual say about DNIS (with wink start)?
   
Yuan Liu

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Ron Fox wrote:

Arriving late to this discussion, sorry if this has already been mentioned
but DNIS and ANI can be variable length without confusion if the sender
uses the * DTMF tone as a delimiter. Thus sending *ANI*DNIS* (pronounced
Star ANI Star DNIS Star allows the receiver to identify the two values
unambiguously and to find the trailing boundary (when the 3rd * has been
received).

We have a Channelized Voice T1 from a long distance provider that is set
up this way into our non-Asterisk PBX where the provider sends us ANI as
the full originating phone number and DNIS as the last 4 digits.  So the
DTMF string seen by our PBX for someone calling one of our toll-free
numbers, say 800-123-4567, from a local phone in Hawaii, say 808-555-1313,
would be *8085551313*4567*.  The PBX parses this string and uses the
last 4 digits DNIS to route the call from the T1 trunk group to the proper
internal extension or hunt group.

Do Asterisk and Digium or Sangoma T1/E1 cards know about delimited ANI and 
DNIS?


Not really, but you can emulate this by something like this (not tested, 
but the idea and method is sound):


exten = _*NXXNXX**,1,Set(MY_ANI=${EXTEN:1:10})
exten = _*NXXNXX**,1,Goto(${EXTEN:12:4},1)

If you really have variable length of ANI and DID/DNIS then you would 
need to use the Cut() function and specify the delimiter as *.  Doing it 
using Cut() is slightly more complicated, and requires more thought for 
the design, but would be more reliable.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Matt wrote:
BTW.  This seems kinda backwards.  Why not just get a PRI.  PRIs have 
all the intelligence you need to do it right.


There can be many reasons not to get a PRI.  Most of them have to do 
with cost.  Depending on the location and telco, a PRI can be MUCH more 
expensive than a CT1.  PRI is, of course, the best solution, but it is 
not always possible to get a PRI.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Ron Fox
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Matt wrote:

 BTW.  This seems kinda backwards.  Why not just get a PRI.  PRIs have all
 the intelligence you need to do it right.

You may not have that option.  For example, you want to split a T1 from a 
legacy PBX to 12 channels to a proprietary IVR system and 12 channels to 
an Asterisk box.  Can't do that with with PRI and a single T1 because you 
only have one control channel.

--Ron
 
 On 2/18/07, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why would the card care?  This would be something you'd take care of in
  your dialplan.
 
  On 2/18/07, Ron Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Arriving late to this discussion, sorry if this has already been
   mentioned
   but DNIS and ANI can be variable length without confusion if the sender
   uses the * DTMF tone as a delimiter. Thus sending *ANI*DNIS*
   (pronounced
   Star ANI Star DNIS Star allows the receiver to identify the two values
  
   unambiguously and to find the trailing boundary (when the 3rd * has
   been
   received).
  
   We have a Channelized Voice T1 from a long distance provider that is set
   up this way into our non-Asterisk PBX where the provider sends us ANI as
  
   the full originating phone number and DNIS as the last 4 digits.  So
   the
   DTMF string seen by our PBX for someone calling one of our toll-free
   numbers, say 800-123-4567, from a local phone in Hawaii, say
   808-555-1313,
   would be *8085551313*4567*.  The PBX parses this string and uses the
   last 4 digits DNIS to route the call from the T1 trunk group to the
   proper
   internal extension or hunt group.
  
   Do Asterisk and Digium or Sangoma T1/E1 cards know about delimited ANI
   and
   DNIS?
  
   --Ron
  
   On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
  
It will do so automatically if it is working.  Asterisk will stuff
   those
digits into ${EXTEN}, therefore you need an exten = _XXX,1,Whatever
   if
you are expecting 3 digits.
   
Until recently we had DID service from our telco on an EM Wink
channelized voice T-1.  The above is what we did.
   
David Ruggles wrote:
 Yuan (and Matt),

 Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry I kind of vented, I just got very
   frustrated
 with trying to configure Asterisk for what (in a proprietary PBX) is
 normally one of the easiest parts of configuration.

 With a wink start T1 the DNIS digits are transmitted in-band. The
   Network
 goes off hook, the PBX winks (goes off hook for 200ms) and then the
   network
 sends DNIS (and ANI if used) as DTMF tones, after the PBX gets the
   tones it
 answers the call (goes off hook). So you would tell the PBX to look
   for x
 number of digits and then after getting that number of digits it
   will answer
 the call. I have the Sangoma A101 configured for wink start, but I
   can't
 find anything that says how to specify the number DNIS digits to
   expect. If
 the PBX answers the call instead of just winking, the DTMF tones
   will be
 transmitted during the call which is what seems to be happening
   here.

 For more specific information a good overview of the wink start
   process can
 be found here:

   http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
 1123bb.shtml#topic2a


 Can anyone tell me how to configure Asterisk to pickup the DNIS
   digits off a
 wink start T1?

 Thanks,

 David Ruggles
 CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
 Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
 (910) 285-7200   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yuan
   LIU
 Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:57 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

 Matt already replied to your other posting of similar content.  I'm
   also a
 bit confused.  Do you mean you have observed that Asterisk is
   brought into
 the intended context, but start to react to digits in DNIS one after
 another?  If so, can you estimate the interval Asterisk stays in
   each
 extension?

 If this is true, it seems to suggest that your provider is sending
   DNIS as a

 DTMF string after Asterisk has answered the call.  Isn't this a bit
   weird?
 What does the card's manual say about DNIS (with wink start)?

 Yuan Liu

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Matt

Again,
I think this would be something you'd have to do in your dial-plan.  If you
want Asterisk to SEND the info.  You need to code your dial plan to send it
when the call starts up.

On 2/18/07, Ron Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Matt wrote:

 Why would the card care?  This would be something you'd take care of in
your
 dialplan.

Right, the card wouldn't care.  So does Asterisk know about how to send
and receive delimited ANI and DNIS through a channelized voice T1?

--Ron

 On 2/18/07, Ron Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Arriving late to this discussion, sorry if this has already been
mentioned
  but DNIS and ANI can be variable length without confusion if the
sender
  uses the * DTMF tone as a delimiter. Thus sending *ANI*DNIS*
(pronounced
  Star ANI Star DNIS Star allows the receiver to identify the two
values
  unambiguously and to find the trailing boundary (when the 3rd * has
been
  received).
 
  We have a Channelized Voice T1 from a long distance provider that is
set
  up this way into our non-Asterisk PBX where the provider sends us ANI
as
  the full originating phone number and DNIS as the last 4 digits.  So
the
  DTMF string seen by our PBX for someone calling one of our toll-free
  numbers, say 800-123-4567, from a local phone in Hawaii, say
808-555-1313,
  would be *8085551313*4567*.  The PBX parses this string and uses the
  last 4 digits DNIS to route the call from the T1 trunk group to the
proper
  internal extension or hunt group.
 
  Do Asterisk and Digium or Sangoma T1/E1 cards know about delimited ANI
and
  DNIS?
 
  --Ron
 
  On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 
   It will do so automatically if it is working.  Asterisk will stuff
those
   digits into ${EXTEN}, therefore you need an exten = _XXX,1,Whatever
if
   you are expecting 3 digits.
  
   Until recently we had DID service from our telco on an EM Wink
   channelized voice T-1.  The above is what we did.
  
   David Ruggles wrote:
Yuan (and Matt),
   
Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry I kind of vented, I just got very
  frustrated
with trying to configure Asterisk for what (in a proprietary PBX)
is
normally one of the easiest parts of configuration.
   
With a wink start T1 the DNIS digits are transmitted in-band. The
  Network
goes off hook, the PBX winks (goes off hook for 200ms) and then
the
  network
sends DNIS (and ANI if used) as DTMF tones, after the PBX gets the
  tones it
answers the call (goes off hook). So you would tell the PBX to
look
  for x
number of digits and then after getting that number of digits it
will
  answer
the call. I have the Sangoma A101 configured for wink start, but I
  can't
find anything that says how to specify the number DNIS digits to
  expect. If
the PBX answers the call instead of just winking, the DTMF tones
will
  be
transmitted during the call which is what seems to be happening
here.
   
For more specific information a good overview of the wink start
  process can
be found here:
   
 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
1123bb.shtml#topic2a
   
   
Can anyone tell me how to configure Asterisk to pickup the DNIS
digits
  off a
wink start T1?
   
Thanks,
   
David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yuan
LIU
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:57 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?
   
Matt already replied to your other posting of similar
content.  I'm
  also a
bit confused.  Do you mean you have observed that Asterisk is
brought
  into
the intended context, but start to react to digits in DNIS one
after
another?  If so, can you estimate the interval Asterisk stays in
each
extension?
   
If this is true, it seems to suggest that your provider is sending
  DNIS as a
   
DTMF string after Asterisk has answered the call.  Isn't this a
bit
  weird?
What does the card's manual say about DNIS (with wink start)?
   
Yuan Liu

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RE: [asterisk-users] Summary of Trixbox vs. custom install

2007-02-18 Thread wendell hamilton


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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Summary of Trixbox vs. custom install
snip
 I also include a consideration from mine: I would happily use
 Trixbox, because I did FreePBX setup once and it was a real pain, but
 I'm very frightened by a few issues:

 1) Trixbox Macho installation that installs everything without
 asking. I, for example, would like to use software RAID (maybe it's
 wrong with Asterisk, but I want to do it!). I wouldn't like doing it
 manually after Trixbox installation. I would like to have an
 installer doing it for me. Centos (ex redhat) installer does it, so
 why Trixbox choose to install everything without prompting?
You can just install CentOS with RAID and whatever you want, then use
the Trixbox tar package instead of the ISO. Still, why on earth did
the Trixbox team didn't leave the option of doing a custom install
with the ISO ?
/snip

Please note that the recent (2.x) releases of trixbox allow you to
select which modules to install, including raid.

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Re: [asterisk-users] moving WiFi phone

2007-02-18 Thread Leo Ann Boon



I, too, have heard about that best practice of using different
channels for different AP's on the same SSID.  As far as I can tell,
This is standard textbook stuff. Read Cisco press's 'Deploying License 
Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks' by Jack Unger.

it's BS.  I don't know who started it, but it has never worked in any
of the situations I've encountered.  In fact, I know of at least one
AP manufacturer (Apple) that has a utility to auto-configure WDS
networks, and it auto-configures to use the same channel.  That's
Using the same channel is bad, because the APs will interfere with each 
other and your throughput will be reduced. Imagine if you have a total 
of 2 APs with 10 clients each, the bandwidth will have to be shared 
amongst the 22 devices. So, if you're able to get 54Mbps on that 
channel, the net result is everybody gets 54/22 = 2.45Mbps each. Not a 
very pretty sight.


Roaming with multiple APs on the same channel is OK for small set ups.

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RE: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread David Ruggles
I'm sending 12345 as DNIS on a Wink Start T1. In case it makes a difference,
I'm using a Sangoma A101 card. Asterisk sees each digit as a separate
extension number so most of the dialplain suggestions offered so far won't
work. I did try the Wait() function as was suggested. I tried it first in an
s extension but this didn't work, it still gave the error: Unknown
extension '1' in context '1st-T1' requested I then changed it to extension
1 and while it does seem to work (it doesn't try the other extensions) it
seems like the DNIS is completely lost.

As I said in my first post (although it may have been a little too abrasive)
this configuration is very standard and so I find it hard to believe that
Asterisk can't handle it.

Thanks,
 
David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network Engineer  Safe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

David Ruggles wrote:

I'm sending 12345 as DNIS on a Wink Start T1. In case it makes a difference,
I'm using a Sangoma A101 card. Asterisk sees each digit as a separate
extension number so most of the dialplain suggestions offered so far won't
work. I did try the Wait() function as was suggested. I tried it first in an
s extension but this didn't work, it still gave the error: Unknown
extension '1' in context '1st-T1' requested I then changed it to extension
1 and while it does seem to work (it doesn't try the other extensions) it
seems like the DNIS is completely lost.

As I said in my first post (although it may have been a little too abrasive)
this configuration is very standard and so I find it hard to believe that
Asterisk can't handle it.


We had to add this to the /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf to make Asterisk 
work with the EM Wink start T-1 from our telco.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:

David Ruggles wrote:
I'm sending 12345 as DNIS on a Wink Start T1. In case it makes a 
difference,

I'm using a Sangoma A101 card. Asterisk sees each digit as a separate
extension number so most of the dialplain suggestions offered so far 
won't
work. I did try the Wait() function as was suggested. I tried it first 
in an

s extension but this didn't work, it still gave the error: Unknown
extension '1' in context '1st-T1' requested I then changed it to 
extension

1 and while it does seem to work (it doesn't try the other extensions) it
seems like the DNIS is completely lost.

As I said in my first post (although it may have been a little too 
abrasive)

this configuration is very standard and so I find it hard to believe that
Asterisk can't handle it.


We had to add this to the /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf to make Asterisk 
work with the EM Wink start T-1 from our telco.


I guess I could paste the settings this time.

wink=270
rxwink=270


You might want to play with those settings.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with busydetect and cell phones

2007-02-18 Thread Brian Capouch

Stephen Bosch wrote:


Have you tried calling ATT and asking for call disconnect supervision?

I realise that this can be a thankless and tedious endeavour, but it IS
worth trying. There are almost no commercial switches that don't support
this; it's a matter of activating it for the specific circuit in
software. Particularly if you have a business line -- you can demand it.
All PBXs need it if they use analog lines (and plenty still do) so I'm
sure this is not an alien concept to ATT. It's just a matter of finding
the right Earthling there who can help you.

This might be one of those times where a beer with the technician will
get you some joy, if calling Repair doesn't give you any joy.



Better luck with ATT than I had with the Monon Telephone Company.

They have a switch that's fairly new, so I called them--I'm a loyal but 
tightly captive customer of the last 25 years.


Their chief technician told me, Sure, our switch is new.  There's 
nothing to it more than a setting on a software screen.  But we don't 
have to do it because it's not in our tariffs.  So forget it.


And then he hung up on me.

B.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread C F

Also check out immediate=no

On 2/18/07, Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
 David Ruggles wrote:
 I'm sending 12345 as DNIS on a Wink Start T1. In case it makes a
 difference,
 I'm using a Sangoma A101 card. Asterisk sees each digit as a separate
 extension number so most of the dialplain suggestions offered so far
 won't
 work. I did try the Wait() function as was suggested. I tried it first
 in an
 s extension but this didn't work, it still gave the error: Unknown
 extension '1' in context '1st-T1' requested I then changed it to
 extension
 1 and while it does seem to work (it doesn't try the other extensions) it
 seems like the DNIS is completely lost.

 As I said in my first post (although it may have been a little too
 abrasive)
 this configuration is very standard and so I find it hard to believe that
 Asterisk can't handle it.

 We had to add this to the /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf to make Asterisk
 work with the EM Wink start T-1 from our telco.

I guess I could paste the settings this time.

wink=270
rxwink=270


You might want to play with those settings.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with busydetect and cell phones

2007-02-18 Thread Stephen Bosch
Brian Capouch wrote:
 
 Better luck with ATT than I had with the Monon Telephone Company.
 
 They have a switch that's fairly new, so I called them--I'm a loyal but
 tightly captive customer of the last 25 years.
 
 Their chief technician told me, Sure, our switch is new.  There's
 nothing to it more than a setting on a software screen.  But we don't
 have to do it because it's not in our tariffs.  So forget it.
 
 And then he hung up on me.

...wow.

This society is doomed.

-s
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Re: [asterisk-users] Does Asterisk support DNIS?

2007-02-18 Thread Jason Kim
Would you attach your whole zaptel.conf and
zapata.conf?

--- C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also check out immediate=no
 
 On 2/18/07, Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
   David Ruggles wrote:
   I'm sending 12345 as DNIS on a Wink Start T1.
 In case it makes a
   difference,
   I'm using a Sangoma A101 card. Asterisk sees
 each digit as a separate
   extension number so most of the dialplain
 suggestions offered so far
   won't
   work. I did try the Wait() function as was
 suggested. I tried it first
   in an
   s extension but this didn't work, it still
 gave the error: Unknown
   extension '1' in context '1st-T1' requested I
 then changed it to
   extension
   1 and while it does seem to work (it doesn't
 try the other extensions) it
   seems like the DNIS is completely lost.
  
   As I said in my first post (although it may
 have been a little too
   abrasive)
   this configuration is very standard and so I
 find it hard to believe that
   Asterisk can't handle it.
  
   We had to add this to the
 /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf to make Asterisk
   work with the EM Wink start T-1 from our telco.
 
  I guess I could paste the settings this time.
 
  wink=270
  rxwink=270
 
 
  You might want to play with those settings.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with busydetect and cell phones

2007-02-18 Thread Brian Capouch

Stephen Bosch wrote:



And then he hung up on me.



...wow.

This society is doomed.



Actually, it isn't so much society as the legacy telcos.

But unfortunately, they've been pretty smart about using the billions 
that they've stolen from us over the years: they use a lot of it to line 
the pockets of our legislators, and then have them write laws (such as 
the recent SBC Benficiency Law in Indiana) that stifle competition in 
the local loop and put their competitors at a disadvantage.


Martin at the FCC has been a disaster for competition; SBC now has all 
the old ATT properties, and they're just a few new regulatory laws away 
from having their monopoly back.


B.

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