Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-18 Thread Stagg Shelton
This is with a TE411P (Digium Quad Span PRI with Voice Processing Module). When I say pulled the zaptel trunk source, I mean I issued the following command which pulled the latest available source code at that time: svn checkout http://svn.digium.com/svn/zaptel/trunk zaptel I followed up to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-17 Thread Stagg Shelton
I didn't make any changes to any makefiles, just downloaded, built for 2.6 kernel and installed.  Then I rebuilt and installed libpri, asterisk, asterisk-addons.  Below is the output from ztcfg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ztcfg -v Zaptel Version: SVN-trunk-r941 Echo Canceller: MG2 Configuration

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-16 Thread Stagg Shelton
This is my last update to my issue. Finally my echo problem is resolved. On Monday morning 2/13/06 I pulled the the zaptel trunk source. That night after my customers core business hours we built the new zaptel drivers, rebuilt libpri, asterisk, asterisk-addons. My echo disappeared almost

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-16 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Thursday 16 February 2006 11:11, Stagg Shelton wrote: Here are my final configurations zaptel trunk pulled 2/13/06 approx 10:00am est. Can you tell us what SVN checkout # and echo canceller you ended up using? 'dmesg' output when you load the module will tell you, as will ztcfg -v. Also,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-16 Thread Stagg Shelton
This is my last update to my issue. Finally my echo problem is resolved. On Monday morning 2/13/06 I pulled the the zaptel trunk source. That night after my customers core business hours we built the new zaptel drivers, rebuilt libpri, asterisk, asterisk-addons. My echo disappeared almost

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-16 Thread Eric Bishop
Is this with the TE411P? Also what do you mean by pulled the zaptel trunk source?On 2/17/06, Stagg Shelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This is my last update to my issue.Finally my echo problem is resolved.On Monday morning 2/13/06 I pulled the the zaptel trunksource.That night after my customers

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-14 Thread Rob Lith
On 2/13/06, Mike Pollitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob –Is it possible to disable the onboard echo canceller so that one may try the software cancellers instead? I have the TE110P and am experiencing the same bad echo problems that I can't seem to effect by fiddling

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-14 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
On Feb 12, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Mike Pollitt wrote: Hi Rob –   Is it possible to disable the onboard echo canceller so that one may try the software cancellers instead?   I have the TE110P and am experiencing the same bad echo problems that I can’t seem to effect by fiddling with the echo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-12 Thread Rob Lith
Sorry, that's correct - so when experimenting with s/w echo can try the different options.RobOn 2/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that if the VPM was detected then you didn't have any control as to which algorithm was used.I was under the impression that the algorithms

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-12 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
Since your EC only needs to support a tail long enough to handle the PSTN part of the call, I suspect even fairly short tails are fine. Steve Underwood wrote: I don't know about the Tellabs cancellers in particular, but I think any echo canceller built in the 80s will be a fairly poor

[Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-12 Thread Isaac Xiao \(KVB Kunlun Pty Limited\)
What version of Asterisk and Zaptel you were using? Did you try latest Asterisk 1.2.4 and Zaptel 1.2.3? Anyone has good feedback for TE411P? Isaac Xiao Stagg Shelton wrote: It was Digium's opinion that perhaps the card had a VPM. We got a replacement TE411P, I implemented it tonight

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-12 Thread Eric Bishop
Nope only bad feedback here. The software EC in Asterisk worked much better for me than did the VPM on the TE411P.On 2/13/06, Isaac Xiao (KVB Kunlun Pty Limited) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What version of Asterisk and Zaptel you were using? Did you try latest Asterisk 1.2.4 and Zaptel

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-12 Thread Stagg Shelton
I am using asterisk 1.2.4 and zaptel 1.2.3. Also, I tried the latest zaptel out of subversion. Stagg Shelton www.oneringnetworks.com Isaac Xiao (KVB Kunlun Pty Limited) wrote: What version of Asterisk and Zaptel you were using? Did you try latest Asterisk 1.2.4 and Zaptel

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-12 Thread jltaylor
I'm using the Varionboards with no problem. Now, about echo... Sagnoma says if YOU have echo, it is THEIR problem and they will fix it. James TaylorMetroTel3505 Summerhill RoadSuite 11Texarkana, Tx 75503903-793-1956 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-12 Thread Mike Pollitt
. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Lith Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2006 7:51 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo Sorry, that's correct - so when experimenting with s/w echo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Rob Lith
Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:57 PMSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo For what it's worth, we have been going through very similar issues with a TE411P

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread asterisk
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Rob Lith wrote: It claims to have carrier-grade algorithms - don't glibly translate that to carrier grade hardware, it's a PCI card... What echo canceller hardware do you recommend for an asterisk PC? -Dan ___ --Bandwidth and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Rob Lith
TE406P/411P and if you need to go dedicated to hanlde all possible look at an external dedicated canceller like www.oriontelecom.com VCL-E1 ECHO CANCELLER (1U Version) ± $1295 RobOn 2/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Rob Lith wrote: It claims to have

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Stagg Shelton
: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo It was Digium's opinion that perhaps the card had a VPM. We got a replacement TE411P, I implemented it tonight and still the exact same echo problem. At this point I feel like I can rule out failed hardware. I contacted Digium support and now

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo ORION

2006-02-11 Thread Darren Wright
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Lith Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:10 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo TE406P/411P and if you need to go dedicated to hanlde all possible look

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Rob Lith
- From: Stagg Shelton To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo It was Digium's opinion that perhaps the card had a VPM. We got a replacement TE411P, I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo ORION

2006-02-11 Thread Doug Lytle
Darren Wright wrote: The Orion echo canceller is just ok. The Tellabs units work just as well if you don’t mind 10 mins of soldering. I have the orion running with an adit 600 and a TE110P. Echo cancel is fairly good, but I have loads of problems with DTMF digits. And, are usually found

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread asterisk
-Original Message- From: Rob Lith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo Date: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:17 am Size: 4K To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Stagg I don't think it's a matter of trying echocancel

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Mike Clark
Stagg Shelton wrote: It was Digium's opinion that perhaps the card had a VPM. We got a replacement TE411P, I implemented it tonight and still the exact same echo problem. At this point I feel like I can rule out failed hardware. I contacted Digium support and now they are telling me it's

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread chip
connection I’ve heard through Asterisk. Chip Schweiss -Original Message- From: asterisk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:35 PM To: asterisk-users Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo It was Digium's opinion that perhaps the card had a VPM. We got

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Matt
: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo I can definitely vouch for Sangoma's cards with hardware echo cancel. I've been installing Asterisk boxes for about 6 months now using Digium TDM cards and Sipura SPA-3000s in small installations. This past month I installed in a small office with 3

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 16:48, Sat 11 Feb 06, Matt wrote: I vouch for Sangoma's too. We use sangoma 104d EC card, echoes gone, works well. I second that, the sangoma cards are awesome. -- Michiel van Baak http://michiel.vanbaak.info [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key:

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread asterisk
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Rob Lith wrote: TE406P/411P and if you need to go dedicated to hanlde all possible look at an external dedicated canceller like www.oriontelecom.com VCL-E1 ECHO CANCELLER (1U Version) ? $1295 Is the orion echo canceller a higher quality EC than tellabs?

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread C F
Could be, but I don't see why one would spend more just becuase the answer is yes. The tellabs will do the job perfectly (at least in my experience) and can be picked up for less than $100.00 on eBay. They have proven to last for 20 years (the older models being sold on eBay were manufactured in

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Steve Underwood
I don't know about the Tellabs cancellers in particular, but I think any echo canceller built in the 80s will be a fairly poor performer. Many improvements in EC occurred in the early 90s, in response to the problems of earlier cancellers. Also, most older cancellers only cancel fairly short

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread C F
The most common Tellabs EC are not the ones from the 80s, I was just pointing out that the quality was good, since they still last now 20 years later. On 2/11/06, Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about the Tellabs cancellers in particular, but I think any echo canceller

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread asterisk
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Steve Underwood wrote: I don't know about the Tellabs cancellers in particular, but I think any echo canceller built in the 80s will be a fairly poor performer. Many improvements in EC occurred in the early 90s, in response to the problems of earlier cancellers. Also, most

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Darren Wright
Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Rob Lith wrote: TE406P/411P and if you need to go dedicated to hanlde all possible look at an external dedicated canceller like www.oriontelecom.com VCL-E1 ECHO CANCELLER (1U

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread C F
On 2/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Steve Underwood wrote: I don't know about the Tellabs cancellers in particular, but I think any echo canceller built in the 80s will be a fairly poor performer. Many improvements in EC occurred in the early

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread C F
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:19 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Rob Lith wrote

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-11 Thread Darren Wright
AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo Darren, how was customer service an issue? I mean once you got one to work, it just plug and forget. On 2/12/06, Darren Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh. Not for $1000

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-10 Thread Stagg Shelton
PROTECTED] To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo For what it's worth, we have been going through very similar issues with a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-10 Thread Cory Andrews
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo It was Digium's opinion that perhaps the card had a VPM. We got a replacement TE411P, I implemented it tonight and still

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Totaro
Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo Stagg - I know you get a full 128ms tail of echo can on the Sangoma. I believe that on the TE411P, the 128ms tail is shared by all (4) spans, and as you add additional spans up to maximum of 4, the echo can tail amount decreases

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-07 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
On Feb 5, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Stagg Shelton wrote: I just implemented a system using a TE411P hardware echo cancellation card. Per Digium, I setup zaptel.conf, and zapata.conf the same way as I always have. To my surprise calls out to the PSTN had a terrible echo. 1 - 2 second delay, and quite

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-07 Thread Anthony Rodgers
For what it's worth, we have been going through very similar issues with a TE411P - with Digium support, we have basically gone as far as we can with the HW EC, and are now using MG2 with much better results. We have a Ditech EC box on order. Regards, -- Anthony Rodgers Business Systems

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-07 Thread Matt
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo For what it's worth, we have been going through very similar issues with a TE411P - with Digium support, we have basically gone as far as we can with the HW EC, and are now using MG2 with much better results. We have a Ditech EC box on order

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-06 Thread Stagg Shelton
Yes, I actually just removed the VPM. After doing so, I had echo at the beginning of the call, but it trained out after a second at least making it usable. I plan on contacting digium support this morning. Do you know if there are any docs specific to this card or the vpm module itself?

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-06 Thread Eric Bishop
Kevin, I have experienced the same issue. I get worse echo with the VPM installed than with software EC. Have had it at 2 different sites with 2 different TE411P's. - EricOn 2/6/06, Kevin P. Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stagg Shelton wrote: I just implemented a system using a TE411P hardware

[Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-05 Thread Stagg Shelton
I just implemented a system using a TE411P hardware echo cancellation card. Per Digium, I setup zaptel.conf, and zapata.conf the same way as I always have. To my surprise calls out to the PSTN had a terrible echo. 1 - 2 second delay, and quite clear. The echo was so bad that I had to remove

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE411P Really Bad Echo

2006-02-05 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Stagg Shelton wrote: I just implemented a system using a TE411P hardware echo cancellation card. Per Digium, I setup zaptel.conf, and zapata.conf the same way as I always have. To my surprise calls out to the PSTN had a terrible echo. 1 - 2 second delay, and quite clear. The echo was so bad