[asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria

Hi,

Recently I've noticed on a customer's GXP-2000 phone that it loses its IP
addresse for a few seconds, audio goes blank obviously, and after about
30-60 seconds get the same IP addresse back and resumes the call. This shows
that call was not dropped but phone lost connection with the server, whereas
the caller on the other end was still talking. This is just unacceptable as
this is effecting his business.

Apparently this is a router related issue. Its a D-Link DI-624 router. This
happens even when there is no Internet activity at all.

How can this issue be resolved. What are the reasons for losing contact with
the router. Is there some interference at port 5060, bad wiring, or
something else?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Bryan Laird
Does it loose it's IP address consistently and at a designated  
interval.  I've seen something similar in a number of various cases  
where it was always an issue
of the 'client' device blocking the DHCP renew traffic.  But when it  
went into rebinding it would drop $filter and allow the dhcp traffic  
back through.


I would say check to see if it occurs at a regular interval and  
compare that with the lease times.  Also consider it's sometimes a  
good idea if the phone supports it (I don't know if your does)
but setting up a cheap syslog host that can catch the syslog messages  
from the unit.  Some units will log why they dropped their network  
(ie dhcp) or something.


This was just a wild stab.


On May 18, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:


Hi,

Recently I've noticed on a customer's GXP-2000 phone that it loses  
its IP addresse for a few seconds, audio goes blank obviously, and  
after about 30-60 seconds get the same IP addresse back and resumes  
the call. This shows that call was not dropped but phone lost  
connection with the server, whereas the caller on the other end was  
still talking. This is just unacceptable as this is effecting his  
business.


Apparently this is a router related issue. Its a D-Link DI-624  
router. This happens even when there is no Internet activity at all.


How can this issue be resolved. What are the reasons for losing  
contact with the router. Is there some interference at port 5060,  
bad wiring, or something else?


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RE: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Chris Bagnall
 Recently I've noticed on a customer's GXP-2000 phone that it loses its IP
 addresse for a few seconds, audio goes blank obviously, and after about 30-60
 seconds get the same IP addresse back and resumes the call. This shows that 
 call
 was not dropped but phone lost connection with the server, whereas the caller
 on the other end was still talking. This is just unacceptable as this is 
 effecting his
 business.

We have also had this happen at client sites. I don't think it's a router 
issue, since we've had the same thing occur using a variety of different 
routers. There are 2 possible reasons for it:
1) The firmware version on the GXP2000 isn't doing DHCP queries properly - when 
it connects to the server to renew its IP, instead it thinks the server's given 
it a different one (which of course it hasn't). I'm guessing the phone drops 
the network interface then brings it back up.
2) The auto check firmware every option was known to cause the phone to 
reboot in some firmware versions when the phone checked for new firmware/config 
from the TFTP server.

We worked around the issue at one place by giving all the phones static IPs 
(and configuring them in the phones manually) and disabling auto check 
firmware. At another location where static IPs would have been impractical 
(some staff take them home at weekends), we simply upped the lease time on the 
DHCP server to 7 days.

Of course, you may find that simply trying different versions of the firmware 
resolve those issues.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Matt

As others have said, it does sound like a DHCP issue.. you can try
increasing the lease time, or giving it a static IP address.

On 5/18/07, Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

Recently I've noticed on a customer's GXP-2000 phone that it loses its IP
addresse for a few seconds, audio goes blank obviously, and after about
30-60 seconds get the same IP addresse back and resumes the call. This shows
that call was not dropped but phone lost connection with the server, whereas
the caller on the other end was still talking. This is just unacceptable as
this is effecting his business.

Apparently this is a router related issue. Its a D-Link DI-624 router.
This happens even when there is no Internet activity at all.

How can this issue be resolved. What are the reasons for losing contact
with the router. Is there some interference at port 5060, bad wiring, or
something else?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Doug Lytle

Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

Hi,

Recently I've noticed on a customer's GXP-2000 phone that it loses its 
IP addresse for a few seconds, audio goes blank obviously, and after 
about 30-60 seconds get the same IP addresse back and 



The phone is probably renewing it lease with the DHCP.  Set your expire 
time to a larger number.  I've got mine set for 30 days.


Doug


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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Jon Pounder

Quoting Doug Lytle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

Hi,

Recently I've noticed on a customer's GXP-2000 phone that it loses   
its IP addresse for a few seconds, audio goes blank obviously, and   
after about 30-60 seconds get the same IP addresse back and



The phone is probably renewing it lease with the DHCP.  Set your expire
time to a larger number.  I've got mine set for 30 days.


That is probably the cause but it also sounds like a flawed  
implementation - the ip should not just go away while its being renewed.




Doug


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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread David Gomillion

On 5/18/07, Zeeshan Zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

Recently I've noticed on a customer's GXP-2000 phone that it loses its IP
addresse for a few seconds, audio goes blank obviously, and after about
30-60 seconds get the same IP addresse back and resumes the call. This shows
that call was not dropped but phone lost connection with the server, whereas
the caller on the other end was still talking. This is just unacceptable as
this is effecting his business.



Sounds like DHCP to me. I've not had this problem with a GXP-2000. If it
were me, I would try setting the IP address to a static IP to rule out any
kind of DHCP weirdness.

Now, if it still happens, then it's not really losing its IP; instead, it
will be losing the connection. Or it could be unregistering with the
Asterisk server for some reason, and then re-register 30-60 seconds later.
That's still bad, but it's different than losing one's IP.

One way you may be able to more accurately diagnose the problem would be to
run Ethereal or some other packet sniffer and see if the voice packets get
through your router. If not, fix or replace your router. If so, you'll need
to do more detective work to see if you have a phone problem, configuration
problem, cabling problem, bad port on the switch, etc.

Hope that helps,
David
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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria

Thanks for all the replies. I've updated client's router firmware, which was
very old. Now I've put MoH on for the whole day and see if it happens again.
MoH was doing the same thing, i.e. going down and coming back up. When it
went down, on the screen you could see message saying 'No IP', and when it
came back up, same old IP was back.

Phone's firmware is the latest one, which is on their website, i.e. 1.1.1.14.
I know there exists some latest but still beta version of a firmware, but
I'll stick with this one.

There is no pattern when it goes down, it may does it twice an hour or not
do it for many hours. But I've noticed that Automatic Upgrade Option was set
to 60 min, I've now set it for 1440 minutes.

Does automatic upgrade means only firmware upgrade or config upgrade as
well. Can I have config upgrade sooner than 1440 minutes on this phone?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria

Physical connection is fine because customer's computer is also connected
through the phone's inline ethernet port. When phone was losing IP, computer
was still working fine on the Internet.

But after the changes I made earlier today, as mentioned previously, it
seems to be working fine so far. I'll check it again from them at the end of
the day.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Phone losing IP address for a few seconds but doesn't drop call

2007-05-18 Thread Drew Gibson

Hi,

Sounds like a flaky physical connection to me.
Try new patch cables (DO NOT EVER use homemade patch cables, they cost 
too much) and a different jack if in an office environment.


If that doesn't fix it, try locking the switch port and/or the phone 
port speed/duplex settings and turn off auto-negotiation. Try a 
different make/model of switch (insert between phone and router).


regards,

Drew

Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. I've updated client's router firmware, 
which was very old. Now I've put MoH on for the whole day and see if 
it happens again. MoH was doing the same thing, i.e. going down and 
coming back up. When it went down, on the screen you could see message 
saying 'No IP', and when it came back up, same old IP was back.


Phone's firmware is the latest one, which is on their website, i.e. 
1.1.1.14 http://1.1.1.14. I know there exists some latest but still 
beta version of a firmware, but I'll stick with this one.


There is no pattern when it goes down, it may does it twice an hour or 
not do it for many hours. But I've noticed that Automatic Upgrade 
Option was set to 60 min, I've now set it for 1440 minutes.


Does automatic upgrade means only firmware upgrade or config upgrade 
as well. Can I have config upgrade sooner than 1440 minutes on this 
phone?







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