Re: [asterisk-users] embedded asterisk

2006-10-22 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Dovid B wrote:

anyone know if any of these could handle asterisk ?
http://www.axotec.com/embedded-server.htm
 


Dovid,

	Most of them, running with ARMs running at 70mhz wouldn't be very 
practical.  The SPIDER-III could work out better, but even still 200 
MIPS isn't exactly impressive...  There are much better solutions for 
running Asterisk on embedded hardware.


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Re: [asterisk-users] embedded asterisk

2006-10-22 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
The the largest one only has 128m ram. But I think the largest factor is what you intend to doOn 10/22/06, Kristian Kielhofner 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Mike Diehl
Doh!  Turns out it won't be November.  It will be a bit later.  Sorry.

On Thursday 19 October 2006 21:35, Mike Diehl wrote:
 On Thursday 19 October 2006 14:10, Cory Andrews wrote:
  I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
  Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
  email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario please
  shoot me an email.

 I happen to know that November's Linux Journal will have an article about
 running Linux/Asterisk on a Linsys WRTGS54SL router.  Nothing too
 technical, but I hope you enjoy it.

 Mike Diehl.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Administrator TOOTAI

Cory Andrews wrote:

I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario please shoot
me an email.


Cory,

OpenWRT -running on Linksys WRT- has asterisk packages.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ipkg list | grep asterisk
asterisk - 1.0.10-1 - An open source PBX
asterisk-chan-mgcp - 1.0.10-1 - a Media Gateway Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-chan-skinny - 1.0.10-1 - a Skinny Client Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-ilbc - 1.0.10-1 - an Internet Low Bitrate Codec (ILBC) 
Translator for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-lpc10 - 1.0.10-1 - an LPC10 (Linear Predictor Code) 
2.4kbps Voice Coder for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-speex - 1.0.10-1 - a Speex/PCM16 Codec Translator for 
Asterisk

asterisk-mini - 1.0.10-1 - A minimal open source PBX
asterisk-mysql - 1.0.10-1 - MySQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-pbx-dundi - 1.0.10-1 - Distributed Universal Number Discovery 
(DUNDi) support for Asterisk

asterisk-pgsql - 1.0.10-1 - PostgreSQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-res-agi - 1.0.10-1 - Asterisk Gateway Interface module
asterisk-sounds - 1.0.10-1 - a sounds collection for Asterisk
asterisk-voicemail - 1.0.10-1 - VoiceMail related modules for Asterisk

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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Tim Panton


On 19 Oct 2006, at 21:10, Cory Andrews wrote:

I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users  
embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of  
the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario  
please shoot

me an email.


I've been using an nslu2 (slug) as a lightweight asterisk server.
It isn't a broadband router, but it is cheap and works well.

I'd be happy to chat with anyone at Astricon about it.
I'll be on Booth 118 launching Corraleta - our zero install web  
softphone


(Funny thing, I found a couple of bugs in Corraleta that only
showed up when testing against the slug - byte order things if
I remember.)



Tim Panton

www.mexuar.com



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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Tim Panton wrote:


On 19 Oct 2006, at 21:10, Cory Andrews wrote:


I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users  embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of  the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario  
please shoot

me an email.



I've been using an nslu2 (slug) as a lightweight asterisk server.
It isn't a broadband router, but it is cheap and works well.

I'd be happy to chat with anyone at Astricon about it.
I'll be on Booth 118 launching Corraleta - our zero install web  softphone

(Funny thing, I found a couple of bugs in Corraleta that only
showed up when testing against the slug - byte order things if
I remember.)



Tim Panton

www.mexuar.com



Tim,

How do you use a web softphone on a slug?

P.S. - I'm sure we'll have a chance to talk about it.  I'm in booth 
116/117 - howdy neighbor!


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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Administrator TOOTAI wrote:

Cory Andrews wrote:


I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario please 
shoot

me an email.



Cory,

OpenWRT -running on Linksys WRT- has asterisk packages.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ipkg list | grep asterisk
asterisk - 1.0.10-1 - An open source PBX
asterisk-chan-mgcp - 1.0.10-1 - a Media Gateway Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-chan-skinny - 1.0.10-1 - a Skinny Client Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-ilbc - 1.0.10-1 - an Internet Low Bitrate Codec (ILBC) 
Translator for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-lpc10 - 1.0.10-1 - an LPC10 (Linear Predictor Code) 
2.4kbps Voice Coder for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-speex - 1.0.10-1 - a Speex/PCM16 Codec Translator for 
Asterisk

asterisk-mini - 1.0.10-1 - A minimal open source PBX
asterisk-mysql - 1.0.10-1 - MySQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-pbx-dundi - 1.0.10-1 - Distributed Universal Number Discovery 
(DUNDi) support for Asterisk

asterisk-pgsql - 1.0.10-1 - PostgreSQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-res-agi - 1.0.10-1 - Asterisk Gateway Interface module
asterisk-sounds - 1.0.10-1 - a sounds collection for Asterisk
asterisk-voicemail - 1.0.10-1 - VoiceMail related modules for Asterisk



Daniel,

Those are ancient!  Capouch has MUCH newer packages.

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RE: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Dean Collins
Hi Kristian,

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Mexuar 

:) 
see you at the show




Regards,

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 -Original Message-
 
 Tim,
 
   How do you use a web softphone on a slug?
 
 P.S. - I'm sure we'll have a chance to talk about it.  I'm in booth
 116/117 - howdy neighbor!
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Dean Collins wrote:

Hi Kristian,

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Mexuar 

:) 
see you at the show





Regards,

Dean Collins
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+1-917-207-3420 Mb
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).

 




Arg!

	I understand what a soft phone is.  I know what java is.  I also know 
that neither have anything to do with the slug.  The slug cannot support 
any web browsers that support java.  The slug doesn't have any audio 
interfaces that could support audio for a softphone - so again, what 
does the slug have to do with a java softphone?!?!?  You mentioned that 
compiling for the slug helped resolve some issues for you.  What are you 
compiling, and how does it run on the slug?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Brian Capouch

Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

Administrator TOOTAI wrote:


Cory Andrews wrote:


I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario 
please shoot

me an email.




Cory,

OpenWRT -running on Linksys WRT- has asterisk packages.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ipkg list | grep asterisk
asterisk - 1.0.10-1 - An open source PBX
asterisk-chan-mgcp - 1.0.10-1 - a Media Gateway Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-chan-skinny - 1.0.10-1 - a Skinny Client Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-ilbc - 1.0.10-1 - an Internet Low Bitrate Codec (ILBC) 
Translator for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-lpc10 - 1.0.10-1 - an LPC10 (Linear Predictor Code) 
2.4kbps Voice Coder for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-speex - 1.0.10-1 - a Speex/PCM16 Codec Translator for 
Asterisk

asterisk-mini - 1.0.10-1 - A minimal open source PBX
asterisk-mysql - 1.0.10-1 - MySQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-pbx-dundi - 1.0.10-1 - Distributed Universal Number Discovery 
(DUNDi) support for Asterisk

asterisk-pgsql - 1.0.10-1 - PostgreSQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-res-agi - 1.0.10-1 - Asterisk Gateway Interface module
asterisk-sounds - 1.0.10-1 - a sounds collection for Asterisk
asterisk-voicemail - 1.0.10-1 - VoiceMail related modules for Asterisk



Daniel,

Those are ancient!  Capouch has MUCH newer packages.

--


Mine probably aren't managed as well.  I'm a one-person operation with 
too many irons in the fire!!


Has anybody out there, on non-FPU embedded platorms, made any good use 
of things like ilbc and Speex?


I downloaded those packages a while back but they were dramatically 
unusuable on either the WGT or the WRT models.


Maybe I'm missing something?

B.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 11:54:45AM -0400, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
   I understand what a soft phone is.  I know what java is.  I also 
   know that neither have anything to do with the slug.

They do if Asterisk is runnin on the slug.

What he meant was perfectly clear to *me*, Kristian; I'm not sure why
you didn't understand him.

The slug cannot 
 support any web browsers that support java.

The shipped interface may not utilize Java, but your assertion means
that *no* current-day browser could operate a slug, which seems like a
misstatement to me...

 The slug doesn't have any 
 audio interfaces that could support audio for a softphone - so again, what 
 does the slug have to do with a java softphone?!?!?  You mentioned that 
 compiling for the slug helped resolve some issues for you.  What are you 
 compiling, and how does it run on the slug?

He's compiling his softphone, so that it does not have endianness
problems which are exposed by connecting it to an Asterisk instance
running on a slug, which is opposite-endian from most PC's, IIRC.

Of course, if Asterisk *exposes* underlying endianness issues, it's
broken...

Cheers,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Brian Capouch wrote:

Kristian Kielhofner wrote:


Administrator TOOTAI wrote:


Cory Andrews wrote:


I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario 
please shoot

me an email.





Cory,

OpenWRT -running on Linksys WRT- has asterisk packages.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ipkg list | grep asterisk
asterisk - 1.0.10-1 - An open source PBX
asterisk-chan-mgcp - 1.0.10-1 - a Media Gateway Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-chan-skinny - 1.0.10-1 - a Skinny Client Control Protocol 
implementation for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-ilbc - 1.0.10-1 - an Internet Low Bitrate Codec (ILBC) 
Translator for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-lpc10 - 1.0.10-1 - an LPC10 (Linear Predictor Code) 
2.4kbps Voice Coder for Asterisk
asterisk-codec-speex - 1.0.10-1 - a Speex/PCM16 Codec Translator for 
Asterisk

asterisk-mini - 1.0.10-1 - A minimal open source PBX
asterisk-mysql - 1.0.10-1 - MySQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-pbx-dundi - 1.0.10-1 - Distributed Universal Number 
Discovery (DUNDi) support for Asterisk

asterisk-pgsql - 1.0.10-1 - PostgreSQL modules for Asterisk
asterisk-res-agi - 1.0.10-1 - Asterisk Gateway Interface module
asterisk-sounds - 1.0.10-1 - a sounds collection for Asterisk
asterisk-voicemail - 1.0.10-1 - VoiceMail related modules for Asterisk



Daniel,

Those are ancient!  Capouch has MUCH newer packages.

--



Mine probably aren't managed as well.  I'm a one-person operation with 
too many irons in the fire!!


Has anybody out there, on non-FPU embedded platorms, made any good use 
of things like ilbc and Speex?


I downloaded those packages a while back but they were dramatically 
unusuable on either the WGT or the WRT models.


Maybe I'm missing something?

B.



B,

	If you went to GlobalSound, you might be able to get a fixed point ilbc 
implementation.  I think they sell it.


	Of course I'm mostly joking.  That would probably be a pretty large 
undertaking.  It would still be awesome if someone did it, though.  If 
someone does take up this cause - why not whip up a fixed point g729 
implementation while you are at it?


	I'm pretty sure that there is an easy to get fixed point implementation 
of speex.  I don't know if that will solve all of your issues, but it is 
a start.


P.S. - We'll have to work on your code to get it in a buildroot.  Maybe 
even some packages!  Hopefully we'll have some time at Astricon.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 11:54:45AM -0400, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

	I understand what a soft phone is.  I know what java is.  I also 
	know that neither have anything to do with the slug.



They do if Asterisk is runnin on the slug.

What he meant was perfectly clear to *me*, Kristian; I'm not sure why
you didn't understand him.


  The slug cannot 
support any web browsers that support java.



The shipped interface may not utilize Java, but your assertion means
that *no* current-day browser could operate a slug, which seems like a
misstatement to me...


   The slug doesn't have any 
audio interfaces that could support audio for a softphone - so again, what 
does the slug have to do with a java softphone?!?!?  You mentioned that 
compiling for the slug helped resolve some issues for you.  What are you 
compiling, and how does it run on the slug?



He's compiling his softphone, so that it does not have endianness
problems which are exposed by connecting it to an Asterisk instance
running on a slug, which is opposite-endian from most PC's, IIRC.

Of course, if Asterisk *exposes* underlying endianness issues, it's
broken...

Cheers,
-- jra


jra,

	He implied that he made code tweaks to his web based softphone (which 
is written in java) as a result of running it on the slug.  I was trying 
to figure out exactly what he was talking about, and how he did it. 
Slug audio device?  Which java virtual machine?  How did the interface 
work?  These were the kinds of questions that I had.  He answered all of 
them off-list.  So it seems I wasn't as far off as you seem to think.


	It actually had *nothing* to do with Asterisk running on the slug, so 
it seems that you might be even more confused than I am :).  He 
confirmed off-list that the scenario he described did not involve 
running Asterisk on the slug.  It involved running the softphone in a 
java vm on the slug, as a softphone with audio, etc.


	Check out the website.  The shipped product appears to be %100 Java. 
That's pretty clear.  As far as my misstatement, I think it was pretty 
clear too:


the slug cannot support any browsers that support java

*that support java* - this is key

	Which is completely true.  links, lynx, etc.  These are all browsers 
that run perfectly well on the slug.  None of them support java (even if 
they did, what would be the point)?  Does the slug support browsers - 
yes.  Do those browsers support java - no.


	Although you claim to fully understand him, your post indicates just 
the opposite.  Did you read the whole thread?


P.S. - FYI, Asterisk does run on the slug.  Quite well in fact.  Just 
like it runs on mipsel, xscale, ppc, x86_64, and x86.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Tim Panton


On 20 Oct 2006, at 19:05, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:



	It actually had *nothing* to do with Asterisk running on the slug,  
so it seems that you might be even more confused than I am :).  He  
confirmed off-list that the scenario he described did not involve  
running Asterisk on the slug.  It involved running the softphone in  
a java vm on the slug, as a softphone with audio, etc.


Well, just to fill in a datapoint, there was an issue, but not in  
asterisk. I was doing something wrong in the javacode
with the way I built with the ipaddress Info Element in IAX. It  
turned out that the  byte swapped slug
didn't like my reply (which was wrong) in a way that failed, rather  
than the i386 arch systems

which just silently ignored the my error.

My point (if I had one) was that testing against 'odd' architectures  
is _very_ informative.


Tim Panton

www.mexuar.com



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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Tim Panton wrote:


On 20 Oct 2006, at 19:05, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:



It actually had *nothing* to do with Asterisk running on the 
slug,  so it seems that you might be even more confused than I am :).  
He  confirmed off-list that the scenario he described did not involve  
running Asterisk on the slug.  It involved running the softphone in  a 
java vm on the slug, as a softphone with audio, etc.



Well, just to fill in a datapoint, there was an issue, but not in  
asterisk. I was doing something wrong in the javacode
with the way I built with the ipaddress Info Element in IAX. It  turned 
out that the  byte swapped slug
didn't like my reply (which was wrong) in a way that failed, rather  
than the i386 arch systems

which just silently ignored the my error.

My point (if I had one) was that testing against 'odd' architectures  is 
_very_ informative.


Tim Panton

www.mexuar.com



Tim,

Thanks for the full story!

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RE: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-20 Thread Stelios Koroneos
 Has anybody out there, on non-FPU embedded platorms, made any good use
 of things like ilbc and Speex?


The exisiting implementations of both run very poorly on a non-fpu cpu's,
especialy if clock speed  400 Mhz
I have run asterisk (and still do) on mips,ixp and powerpc (all without
fpu's) and i think that without modifications the codecs are not so usable
There are 3 options
1) Get a faster fp library - Been looking into the GoFast fp lib, no
definate results yet
2) Convert codecs to fixed point - Although i know a G729  fixed point
implementation exists haven't tested and i am not sure that a speex or ilbc
implementation exists.
4) Get a cpu with fpu :) - There are mips and powerpc cpu's (i am talking
the types used in embedded dev's) that have an fpu

I will be also at Astricon and brinking with me a powerpc based embedded
asterisk appliance  which has support for zaptel also.
Maybe we could exchange some ideas on the matter.


Stelios



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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-19 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Cory Andrews wrote:

I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario please shoot
me an email.

Thanks

Cory Andrews
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Cory,

	Brian Capouch is very interested in running Asterisk on Mipsel hardware 
like the Linksys WRT, etc.  His latest favorite is the Netgear WGT634U 
(it has a USB port for extra storage and a miniPCI slot for a wifi 
radio).  It's also dirt cheap (just the way he likes it). 
Unfortunately, Netgear has discontinued this model (about a year ago - I 
think), so you better get them while they're hot!


	Brian will be helping people flash the the Netgear's with the latest 
version of the firmware + Asterisk.


	He is very dedicated to reading the list, I'm sure he'll get back to 
you too.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-19 Thread Michael Graves
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:10:23 -0400, Cory Andrews wrote:

I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario please shoot
me an email.


Cory,

I've been running Astlinux on an H-P T5700 thin client. These are available, 
not dirt cheap, but I received box of them that were due to be recycled. I see 
them on Ebay for around $80-150. 
That's less than a Soekris Net4801 new in a case.

They have the advantage of some built-in flash in an IDE DOM card, then 4 USB 
ports as well as traditional mouse, keyboard, VGA ports. Also, the CPUs which 
are in the 800 MHz - 1.2 GHz 
range handle G.729 codecs better than the Net4801 or WRAP boards.

Michael Graves



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Re: [asterisk-users] Embedded Asterisk

2006-10-19 Thread Mike Diehl
On Thursday 19 October 2006 14:10, Cory Andrews wrote:
 I caught a thread the other day concerning Astricon and users embedding
 Asterisk on a Linksys or Netgear broadband router.  I lost track of the
 email thread, if anyone is presently working with this scenario please
 shoot me an email.

I happen to know that November's Linux Journal will have an article about 
running Linux/Asterisk on a Linsys WRTGS54SL router.  Nothing too 
technical, but I hope you enjoy it.

Mike Diehl.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk Paper Complete

2004-10-31 Thread Master Abi
Could you email me the PDF I am having PASV FTp problems. I have the 
same setup. Out of interest which case are you using. I looked at the CF 
adaptor you used, but not sure if the Morex 3677 case I am using is high 
enough.

Kilburn
JR Richardson wrote:
Hi all,
 

The journey is complete, at least for this project.
 

http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-October/067289.html
 

I spent the better part of Halloween putting this together, I hope its 
useful, enjoy.

 

My ftp server is on the fritz so feel free to post on any other user sites.
 

If you have any difficulties, email me and Ill send the files to you 
directly.

 

JR
 

ftp://odyssey-tech.net/Embedded_Asterisk.doc
ftp://odyssey-tech.net/Embedded_Asterisk.pdf
 


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk Paper Complete

2004-10-31 Thread Brian Capouch
There is an embedded space in the PDF filename that appears to be 
causing ftp to choke. . .

FYI.
Thx.
B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk Paper Complete

2004-10-31 Thread James H. Thompson
files mirrored on voip-info.org here:
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+embedded+systems

Jim

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk Paper Complete


 Hi all,
 
  
 
 The journey is complete, at least for this project.
 
  
 
 http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-October/067289.html
 
  
 
 I spent the better part of Halloween putting this together, I hope it's
 useful, enjoy.
 
  
 
 My ftp server is on the fritz so feel free to post on any other user sites.
 
  
 
 If you have any difficulties, email me and I'll send the files to you
 directly.
 
  
 
 JR
 
  
 
 ftp://odyssey-tech.net/Embedded_Asterisk.doc
 
 ftp://odyssey-tech.net/Embedded_Asterisk.pdf
 
  
 
 





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System

2004-10-14 Thread christophe de coninck




Nice work, I've been thinking on doing almost the same thing but how many users can it handle at the same time?


On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 04:39, JR Richardson wrote:

I have had an embedded * server for a while, a one-off project I've been
working on in some spare time.  I want to write a white paper about it but
haven't started yet due to other priorities.

A CF used in an IDE adapter is the way to go.  The development environment
is a bit tricky but here is a brief of what worked for me:

- define the hardware to use; I used a VIA 10K M mother board, 256M RAM,
TDM400, Sandisk CF (64 MEG), IDE-to-CF adapter here: 
http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/cPath/47/products_id/241
This one sits right into the IDE slot on the MB, with a closed case, no one
can walk up and pull the card out and you don't have to deal with IDE cables
to route.

- hookup a temporary hard drive, partition it with at least 4 - 1 gig
partitions, build the base system on part 1, I used Debian, Woody.

- copy part 1 to part 2 (cp -ax), boot into part 2, download and compile
asterisk, setup to taste and any other software needed (mysql, mpg123,
whatever)

- copy part 2 to part 3, boot into part 3, start stripping the OS down to
bare minimum, if you screw up, no problem, re-copy part 2 to part 3 and
start again

- once you have the server at a minimum OS size and it still boots, runs and
does what you need then figure out the size (df -h), mine was around 75Meg

- boot back into part 1, create a loop file system of 85Meg in part 4, copy
part 3 (the root file system) into the part 4 loop file system, gzip the
part 4 loop file system into one compressed file something.gzip, mine was
23Meg

- prepare the CF, syslinux the CF and put a syslinuz config file on the root
directory and specify a 85Meg ram disk, copy the part 3 kernel file to the
CF, this is what guided me:
http://silent.gumph.org/content/4/1/011-linux-on-cf.html

- configure the file system to mount a partition on the CF and symlink all
writable files to the CF for saving, VM, SYSLOG, * config files, CDR,
whatever you want to save as non-volatile.

- disconnect temp hard drive and re-boot, syslinux will create a ram drive,
un-compress the gzip file system into RAM, and run from there.

Of course there are a hundred steps in between the ones I've out-lined and
there are twice as many problems but the payoff is worth it.  I have an *
server that I can power down without corrupting the file system and it
always comes back up the same configuration, in 30 seconds, pretty cool.

If this is what you guys mean by embedded, then it's certainly achievable
with off the shelf parts and a little time for trial and error.

One of these days, soon, I'll document the entire journey and share on the
WIKI.

JR


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Scott Lykens
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0700, Geoff Nordli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem.  Anyone
 see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based file system and
 booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity for VM you could add an
 IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE drive would mean one less
 mechanical device prone to failure.

You'll want some way to keep CDR records if you need them. I wouldn't
replace the IDE drive for VM with a CF as you might run into a CF
failure to due excessive writes per sector. It seems CFs are good for
something on the order of 10k writes per sector, a number that might
be deceptively easy to achieve.

Now, booting from CF and writing CDR back once (or a few times) per
day might be a worthwhile solution while using a remote * or disk for
VM. Of course an IBM 1 GB Microdrive is on the order of $175 or so and
would provide the ability to run the OS, * and VM all from disk
without worry or kludge.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoSRouter/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Geoff Nordli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0700, Geoff Nordli
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem. 
 Anyone see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based
 file system and booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity
 for VM you could add an IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE
 drive would mean one less mechanical device prone to failure.
 
 You'll want some way to keep CDR records if you need them. I wouldn't
 replace the IDE drive for VM with a CF as you might run into a CF
 failure to due excessive writes per sector. It seems CFs are good for
 something on the order of 10k writes per sector, a number that might
 be deceptively easy to achieve.
 
 Now, booting from CF and writing CDR back once (or a few times) per
 day might be a worthwhile solution while using a remote * or disk for
 VM. Of course an IBM 1 GB Microdrive is on the order of $175 or so and
 would provide the ability to run the OS, * and VM all from disk
 without worry or kludge. 
 
 sl

A CF card is good for about 1,000,000 erase/write cycles.  I believe that
the new cards also have the ability to move data around so it spreads the
erase/write activity to different areas.

Geoff

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread JB Hewit
Then you could export CDR to an external database on another machine.

Realisitcally though, for the price of a microdrive you 'mose well buy
a cheap ide hdd.

It's a cost way up, you can't have too much of an underpowered machine
otherwise you won't make many phone calls.


On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:46:17 -0400, Scott Lykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0700, Geoff Nordli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem.  Anyone
  see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based file system and
  booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity for VM you could add an
  IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE drive would mean one less
  mechanical device prone to failure.
 
 You'll want some way to keep CDR records if you need them. I wouldn't
 replace the IDE drive for VM with a CF as you might run into a CF
 failure to due excessive writes per sector. It seems CFs are good for
 something on the order of 10k writes per sector, a number that might
 be deceptively easy to achieve.
 
 Now, booting from CF and writing CDR back once (or a few times) per
 day might be a worthwhile solution while using a remote * or disk for
 VM. Of course an IBM 1 GB Microdrive is on the order of $175 or so and
 would provide the ability to run the OS, * and VM all from disk
 without worry or kludge.
 
 sl
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/Software Suggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Steve Edwards
What about syslogging the CDR's?
You can set the loghost via DHCP on boot.
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, JB Hewit wrote:
Then you could export CDR to an external database on another machine.
Realisitcally though, for the price of a microdrive you 'mose well buy
a cheap ide hdd.
It's a cost way up, you can't have too much of an underpowered machine
otherwise you won't make many phone calls.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:46:17 -0400, Scott Lykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0700, Geoff Nordli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When Bering boots it loads everything into a RAM based filesystem.  Anyone
see any drawbacks in running an * system using a RAM based file system and
booting from CF?  If you needed additional capacity for VM you could add an
IDE drive.  The benefits to not using an IDE drive would mean one less
mechanical device prone to failure.
You'll want some way to keep CDR records if you need them. I wouldn't
replace the IDE drive for VM with a CF as you might run into a CF
failure to due excessive writes per sector. It seems CFs are good for
something on the order of 10k writes per sector, a number that might
be deceptively easy to achieve.
Now, booting from CF and writing CDR back once (or a few times) per
day might be a worthwhile solution while using a remote * or disk for
VM. Of course an IBM 1 GB Microdrive is on the order of $175 or so and
would provide the ability to run the OS, * and VM all from disk
without worry or kludge.
sl
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/SoftwareSuggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Geoff Nordli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What about syslogging the CDR's?
 
 You can set the loghost via DHCP on boot.
 
 On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, JB Hewit wrote:
 
 Then you could export CDR to an external database on another machine.
 
 Realisitcally though, for the price of a microdrive you 'mose well
 buy a cheap ide hdd. 
 
 It's a cost way up, you can't have too much of an underpowered
 machine otherwise you won't make many phone calls.
 
 

I don't see the writing of CDR that much of an issue.  You have a million
writes per memory block on a CF card -- that is a lot of calls. 

I was thinking an appliance base system would be great for a remote office
that has a handful of users that need to connect to the main branch office.
It could also be used as the router with QOS and VPN connectivity.

It may also be a good fit for a small business with only a couple of users.

I don't know, maybe I just have a fixation on CF cards.

Geoff

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/SoftwareSuggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:39:12 -0700, Geoff Nordli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't see the writing of CDR that much of an issue.  You have a million
 writes per memory block on a CF card -- that is a lot of calls.
and
 I don't know, maybe I just have a fixation on CF cards.

It's rather simple really ...

Use a dual CF adapter with two CF cards, mount one read-only for the
OS, Asterisk and drivers, mount the other read-write for /var/log and
voicemail.

rgds
benjk

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Embedded Asterisk System (was QoS Router/SoftwareSuggestions)

2004-10-13 Thread Stefan de Konink
Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote:
Use a dual CF adapter with two CF cards, mount one read-only for the
OS, Asterisk and drivers, mount the other read-write for /var/log and
voicemail.
Why can't you use a ramdisk and sync to CF on exit, I agree you do need 
a UPS for it...

Stefan de Konink
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-18 Thread Martin List-Petersen
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 09:11, Klaus-Peter Junghanns wrote:
 Hi,
 
  Actually, you the Geode CPU mentioned below is a 5x86 (486 platform) at
  233 MHz. If you take Pebble (http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/), which
  is a downstripped Debian ( 64 MB) on a readonly ext2 filesystem, you
  should be grand. Installing asterisk + some extra stuff will probably
  require, that you have at least a 128MB or 256MB flash or so.
 
 Dont go for stripped down but complete distributions which include a
 lot of stuff that you dont need, e.g. gcc. Go for a rescue system, like
 i used the SuSE rescue system (14 mb), then you can add what you need
 (sshd,...) and compile asterisk on another box and then just copy it.
 My compressed ramdisk image is 32 mb, including all voice prompts and
 some mp3s for MOH.

The good thing about this stripped down image is that it's still
upgradable as regular (apt-get) and has the script that then removes
uneccessary documents etc.

It is a matter of convienience.

If it was a matter of space i probably go for a uclib/busybox from
scratch solution.

The rescue cd's often also contain much that you don't need.

Martin List-Petersen
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-17 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
Hi,

 Actually, you the Geode CPU mentioned below is a 5x86 (486 platform) at
 233 MHz. If you take Pebble (http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/), which
 is a downstripped Debian ( 64 MB) on a readonly ext2 filesystem, you
 should be grand. Installing asterisk + some extra stuff will probably
 require, that you have at least a 128MB or 256MB flash or so.

Dont go for stripped down but complete distributions which include a
lot of stuff that you dont need, e.g. gcc. Go for a rescue system, like
i used the SuSE rescue system (14 mb), then you can add what you need
(sshd,...) and compile asterisk on another box and then just copy it.
My compressed ramdisk image is 32 mb, including all voice prompts and
some mp3s for MOH.

 
 There are actually quite some board around on that CPU, like Soekris,
 pcengines and i think also Mikrotik at prices from 120EUR and up.
 
I just put together the demo system for Linuxtag:
- Via EPIA 5000 (C3-533), EUR 80,-
- Morex case with external power supply, EUR 80,-
- some old 256 mb SDRAMM
- 128 MB USB memory stick, EUR 30,-
- 1 quadBRI (could also easily handle an octoBRI, or a PRI card,
  with the dual riser pci card you can use 2 cards)

The C3-533 is an i586 CPU. According to show translation it needs
30 ms for transcoding 1 channel from g711 to gsm (and vice versa).
So, neglecting any overhead caused by channel handling it could
transcode 30 channels to gsm.

Linux BIOS has support for the EPIA boards, so you can speed up booting
very much and also disable the VGA port (very useful for production
deployments).

 I'm running pebble on a pcengines board, just needed to customize the
 kernel a bit, haven't been testing asterisk on that yet, but i definatly
 will in the sooner future.
 
 Kind regards,
 Martin List-Petersen
 martin (at) list (dash) petersen (dot) net

best regards

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-17 Thread listas iPfone
Hi!

I will use it as simple ivr ...get the call from fxo gateway port ..give
some options and rings the recepcionist phone.

I have a x100p here and the thin client have a pci slot...maybe i can use
it...maybe...not...i will test

The main reason is to free a p4 2.0 ..that is runing * now... i think that
it is to much only to say hello...press 1. :-)

Miklos

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk


 Probably the best thing to do is to build a uClibc tree, disable some
 Asterisk codecs (which don't want to compile, first run) compile again
 and run.

 Tomorrow I'm going to do the samething for an Epia-MII
 1,2GHz/512MB/512MB-CF. Another tip :P Don't compile on flash... just
 make a tree on your harddisk. And copy the required binaries and libs to
 a root tree and attach a kernel. Look at some different Filesystems too,
 depending on for needs Ext2/Minix/CramFS.

 Btw. for what purpose do you want to run the box? I can imagine that a
 few voicemail messages can float the system. And if SIP is only required
 you should probably use SER for the project. I want to try out the VOCAL
 footprint too but didn't had the time to do that yet.

 Stefan

 listas iPfone wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  I have a thin cliente here that i want to run asterisk:
 
  - National Semicondudor Geode GX1 266MHz Geode 266MHz single chip
 
  -  NS Cx5530a Southbridge National Semiconductors SC2200
 
   - NS PC97317 in chipset
 
   -  32MB Compact Flash
   - 64MB Ram
 
  - 10/100Mbps, Autosense 10/100Mbps, Autosense Realtek 8139C National
  DP83815 / DP83816
 
  Some tip?
 
  I have a ideflash adaptor to make the install...
 
  I need recomendations in Linux distro... asterisk min. install
  ...etc..any info i can get.
 
  Thanks for any help
 
  Miklos
 
 
  Atenciosamente
 
  Cláudio Miklos
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-17 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
google for it :)
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-November/002299.html
On Jun 17, 2004, at 1:05 AM, listas iPfone wrote:
Hi All,
 
I have a thin cliente here that i want to run asterisk:
 
- National Semicondudor Geode GX1 266MHz Geode 266MHz single chip 

-  NS Cx5530a Southbridge National Semiconductors SC2200 

 - NS PC97317 in chipset 

 -  32MB Compact Flash 
 - 64MB Ram 
 
- 10/100Mbps, Autosense 10/100Mbps, Autosense Realtek 8139C National 
DP83815 / DP83816

 Some tip?
  
I have a ideflash adaptor to make the install...
  
I need recomendations in Linux distro... asterisk min. install 
...etc..any info i can get.
 
Thanks for any help
 
Miklos


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-17 Thread listas iPfone
Hi

That rescue disk sugestion seems to be very good...

Let´s see if i undestood:

1. burn the rescue iso

1. copy the rescue disk to a hard drive

2. compile asterisk

3. copy all to the flash disk

It is that simple?

Miklos

- Original Message - 
From: Klaus-Peter Junghanns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk


 Hi,

  Actually, you the Geode CPU mentioned below is a 5x86 (486 platform) at
  233 MHz. If you take Pebble (http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/), which
  is a downstripped Debian ( 64 MB) on a readonly ext2 filesystem, you
  should be grand. Installing asterisk + some extra stuff will probably
  require, that you have at least a 128MB or 256MB flash or so.

 Dont go for stripped down but complete distributions which include a
 lot of stuff that you dont need, e.g. gcc. Go for a rescue system, like
 i used the SuSE rescue system (14 mb), then you can add what you need
 (sshd,...) and compile asterisk on another box and then just copy it.
 My compressed ramdisk image is 32 mb, including all voice prompts and
 some mp3s for MOH.

 
  There are actually quite some board around on that CPU, like Soekris,
  pcengines and i think also Mikrotik at prices from 120EUR and up.
 
 I just put together the demo system for Linuxtag:
 - Via EPIA 5000 (C3-533), EUR 80,-
 - Morex case with external power supply, EUR 80,-
 - some old 256 mb SDRAMM
 - 128 MB USB memory stick, EUR 30,-
 - 1 quadBRI (could also easily handle an octoBRI, or a PRI card,
   with the dual riser pci card you can use 2 cards)

 The C3-533 is an i586 CPU. According to show translation it needs
 30 ms for transcoding 1 channel from g711 to gsm (and vice versa).
 So, neglecting any overhead caused by channel handling it could
 transcode 30 channels to gsm.

 Linux BIOS has support for the EPIA boards, so you can speed up booting
 very much and also disable the VGA port (very useful for production
 deployments).

  I'm running pebble on a pcengines board, just needed to customize the
  kernel a bit, haven't been testing asterisk on that yet, but i definatly
  will in the sooner future.
 
  Kind regards,
  Martin List-Petersen
  martin (at) list (dash) petersen (dot) net

 best regards

 Klaus
 -- 
 Klaus-Peter Junghanns

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 Junghanns.NET GmbH
 Breite Strasse 13a - 12167 Berlin - Germany
 fon: (de) +49 30 79705390
 fon: (uk) +44 870 1244692
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-17 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, listas iPfone wrote:

 1. burn the rescue iso
mount -o loop -t iso9660 /file /mnt/loop

 1. copy the rescue disk to a hard drive
cp -dpR /mnt/loop/* /new/location

 2. compile asterisk
make PREFIX=/new/location install (check if asterisk don't copy all
development non-sence)

 3. copy all to the flash disk
fdisk /dev/hdX[0-9]
make partitions
mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdX[0-9]
mount -t ext2 /dev/hdX[0-9] /mnt/flash
cp -dpR /new/location /mnt/flash


 It is that simple?
Probably you want something that actually boots the system too. I don't
know if the ISOLINUX pakage supports a LILO kind of thing, but I guess it
does. That should be in the MBR of your flash disk and you could probably
boot it. I wrote the instructions by mind, so probably something is
missing :)

Stefan


 Miklos

 - Original Message -
 From: Klaus-Peter Junghanns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk


  Hi,
 
   Actually, you the Geode CPU mentioned below is a 5x86 (486 platform) at
   233 MHz. If you take Pebble (http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/), which
   is a downstripped Debian ( 64 MB) on a readonly ext2 filesystem, you
   should be grand. Installing asterisk + some extra stuff will probably
   require, that you have at least a 128MB or 256MB flash or so.
 
  Dont go for stripped down but complete distributions which include a
  lot of stuff that you dont need, e.g. gcc. Go for a rescue system, like
  i used the SuSE rescue system (14 mb), then you can add what you need
  (sshd,...) and compile asterisk on another box and then just copy it.
  My compressed ramdisk image is 32 mb, including all voice prompts and
  some mp3s for MOH.
 
  
   There are actually quite some board around on that CPU, like Soekris,
   pcengines and i think also Mikrotik at prices from 120EUR and up.
  
  I just put together the demo system for Linuxtag:
  - Via EPIA 5000 (C3-533), EUR 80,-
  - Morex case with external power supply, EUR 80,-
  - some old 256 mb SDRAMM
  - 128 MB USB memory stick, EUR 30,-
  - 1 quadBRI (could also easily handle an octoBRI, or a PRI card,
with the dual riser pci card you can use 2 cards)
 
  The C3-533 is an i586 CPU. According to show translation it needs
  30 ms for transcoding 1 channel from g711 to gsm (and vice versa).
  So, neglecting any overhead caused by channel handling it could
  transcode 30 channels to gsm.
 
  Linux BIOS has support for the EPIA boards, so you can speed up booting
  very much and also disable the VGA port (very useful for production
  deployments).
 
   I'm running pebble on a pcengines board, just needed to customize the
   kernel a bit, haven't been testing asterisk on that yet, but i definatly
   will in the sooner future.
  
   Kind regards,
   Martin List-Petersen
   martin (at) list (dash) petersen (dot) net
 
  best regards
 
  Klaus
  --
  Klaus-Peter Junghanns
 
  CEO, CTO
  Junghanns.NET GmbH
  Breite Strasse 13a - 12167 Berlin - Germany
  fon: (de) +49 30 79705390
  fon: (uk) +44 870 1244692
  fax: (de) +49 30 79705391
  iaxtel: 1-700-157-8753
  http://www.Junghanns.NET/asterisk/
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-17 Thread Scott Laird
On Jun 17, 2004, at 4:48 AM, Stefan de Konink wrote:
It is that simple?
Probably you want something that actually boots the system too. I don't
know if the ISOLINUX pakage supports a LILO kind of thing, but I guess 
it
does. That should be in the MBR of your flash disk and you could 
probably
boot it. I wrote the instructions by mind, so probably something is
missing :)
ISOLINUX is part of a family--SYSLINUX for booting from hard drives, 
ISOLINUX for booting from CDs, and PXELINUX for booting over the 
network.  The configuration is nearly identical for all three.

Strictly speaking, you don't really even need the rescue disk.  It's 
surprisingly easy to build a complete Linux system from scratch using 
uclibc and busybox.  Just build busybox statically linked to uclibc 
(amazingly enough, the last time I did that, the static uclibc busybox 
was smaller then the dynamically linked glibc busybox) and install it 
to a temp directory.  Then create a couple extra directories (/dev, 
/tmp, /etc), populate /dev, create a short /etc/passwd and /etc/group, 
and you should have a bootable Linux image in under 1 MB.  Add asterisk 
to that, and you'll be ready to go.

Scott
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] embedded Asterisk

2004-06-16 Thread Martin List-Petersen
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 00:22, Stefan de Konink wrote:
 Probably the best thing to do is to build a uClibc tree, disable some 
 Asterisk codecs (which don't want to compile, first run) compile again 
 and run.
 
 Tomorrow I'm going to do the samething for an Epia-MII 
 1,2GHz/512MB/512MB-CF. Another tip :P Don't compile on flash... just 
 make a tree on your harddisk. And copy the required binaries and libs to 
 a root tree and attach a kernel. Look at some different Filesystems too, 
 depending on for needs Ext2/Minix/CramFS.

Actually, you the Geode CPU mentioned below is a 5x86 (486 platform) at
233 MHz. If you take Pebble (http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/), which
is a downstripped Debian ( 64 MB) on a readonly ext2 filesystem, you
should be grand. Installing asterisk + some extra stuff will probably
require, that you have at least a 128MB or 256MB flash or so.

There are actually quite some board around on that CPU, like Soekris,
pcengines and i think also Mikrotik at prices from 120EUR and up.

I'm running pebble on a pcengines board, just needed to customize the
kernel a bit, haven't been testing asterisk on that yet, but i definatly
will in the sooner future.

Kind regards,
Martin List-Petersen
martin (at) list (dash) petersen (dot) net

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 listas iPfone wrote:
  
  Hi All,
   
  I have a thin cliente here that i want to run asterisk:
   
  - National Semicondudor Geode GX1 266MHz Geode 266MHz single chip 
  
  -  NS Cx5530a Southbridge National Semiconductors SC2200 
  
   - NS PC97317 in chipset 
  
   -  32MB Compact Flash 
   - 64MB Ram 
   
  - 10/100Mbps, Autosense 10/100Mbps, Autosense Realtek 8139C National 
  DP83815 / DP83816
  
  Some tip?
   
  I have a ideflash adaptor to make the install...
   
  I need recomendations in Linux distro... asterisk min. install 
  ...etc..any info i can get.


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