Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk

[Ikka Tirtawidjaja]

Dear all,

thanks for the help.
I'm going to try using E1 gateway to convert sip to e1.


-ikka-

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:28 AM, C F  wrote:

> Use a sip to PRI gateway or a PRI card in the asterisk system. Connect
> that to the Panasonic TDA600 using a PRI card on the panasonic side
> (KX-TDA0290).
> this will be the most worry free solution.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:05 AM, Harry McGregor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> You need to find out more about the configuration of this specific
>> TDA600, as it could be either POTS or E1, once you know that, you can
>> determine what options are best.
>>
>> -Harry
>>
>> On 09/13/2016 10:51 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:
>>
>> Dear Harry,
>>
>> Thx for the explanation.
>>
>> My team manage building's PBX that use Asterisk 13.x.
>> We use Asterisk PBX for this buildings that have apartment and office
>> customer.
>> From my Asterisk PBX, we connect to IPPhone (yealink) or ATA Converter
>> (cisco SPA112).
>> Others are using PBX like panasonic analog, audiocodes SBC, etc, and we
>> use ATA Converter to convert from SIP to Analog (CO Line)
>>
>> Now, we have a new customer (tenant) that have Panasonic TDA600.
>> If we use FXS or ATA Converter, its going to have a lot of that, because
>> this tenant going to use about 60 ext / sip line.
>> Replacing asterisk PBX on my (company) side or replace TDA600 on my
>> customer side is not acceptable.
>> So we need to find a "win-win" solution for this.
>>
>> Thx in advance,
>>
>>
>> Ikka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Harry McGregor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 09/13/2016 06:51 AM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there anyone here who has experience connecting Asterisk (ver 13.8)
>>> with PBX Panasonic KX-TDA600 ?
>>>
>>> The architecture more less like this :
>>>
>>>
>>> Telco Sip Trunk ---> Asterisk 13 ---> Panasonic KX-TDA600 ---> Phone /
>>> Fax
>>>
>>>
>>> What connectivity do you currently use for the KX-TDA600?  E1, T1, POTS,
>>> BRI?
>>>
>>> Others have suggested a SIP to E1/T1 gateway, which would let you skip
>>> the asterisk box, if you don't have other uses for it.
>>>
>>> Another option is to use a PCI-E E1/T1 interface card in the asterisk
>>> box, especially if you already have an E1 or T1 interface in the KX-TDA600.
>>> I personally don't like buying smaller then a dual T1/E1 card, as the price
>>> difference between a dual and a single is so small.  If the KX-TDA600 is
>>> set-up for Analog/POTS, you can use a channel bank on the second T1/E1
>>> port, and feed POTS into the KX-TDA600.
>>>
>>> For a small installation that wanted to keep their Nortel Key System,
>>> and their Telco really wanted to provide a PRI instead of POTS (the Nortel
>>> could only take pots), we used a dual T1 PCI card in an asterisk box, ran
>>> PRI on the Telco interface, an ADIT 600 channel bank on the second
>>> interface, and handed 4 POTS lines to the Nortel Key System.
>>>
>>> The key is to give your self the most flexibility to change later, and
>>> preserve your existing investment.
>>>
>>> -Harry
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk

[C F]

Use a sip to PRI gateway or a PRI card in the asterisk system. Connect that
to the Panasonic TDA600 using a PRI card on the panasonic side (KX-TDA0290).
this will be the most worry free solution.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:05 AM, Harry McGregor 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> You need to find out more about the configuration of this specific TDA600,
> as it could be either POTS or E1, once you know that, you can determine
> what options are best.
>
> -Harry
>
> On 09/13/2016 10:51 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:
>
> Dear Harry,
>
> Thx for the explanation.
>
> My team manage building's PBX that use Asterisk 13.x.
> We use Asterisk PBX for this buildings that have apartment and office
> customer.
> From my Asterisk PBX, we connect to IPPhone (yealink) or ATA Converter
> (cisco SPA112).
> Others are using PBX like panasonic analog, audiocodes SBC, etc, and we
> use ATA Converter to convert from SIP to Analog (CO Line)
>
> Now, we have a new customer (tenant) that have Panasonic TDA600.
> If we use FXS or ATA Converter, its going to have a lot of that, because
> this tenant going to use about 60 ext / sip line.
> Replacing asterisk PBX on my (company) side or replace TDA600 on my
> customer side is not acceptable.
> So we need to find a "win-win" solution for this.
>
> Thx in advance,
>
>
> Ikka
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Harry McGregor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 09/13/2016 06:51 AM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there anyone here who has experience connecting Asterisk (ver 13.8)
>> with PBX Panasonic KX-TDA600 ?
>>
>> The architecture more less like this :
>>
>>
>> Telco Sip Trunk ---> Asterisk 13 ---> Panasonic KX-TDA600 ---> Phone / Fax
>>
>>
>> What connectivity do you currently use for the KX-TDA600?  E1, T1, POTS,
>> BRI?
>>
>> Others have suggested a SIP to E1/T1 gateway, which would let you skip
>> the asterisk box, if you don't have other uses for it.
>>
>> Another option is to use a PCI-E E1/T1 interface card in the asterisk
>> box, especially if you already have an E1 or T1 interface in the KX-TDA600.
>> I personally don't like buying smaller then a dual T1/E1 card, as the price
>> difference between a dual and a single is so small.  If the KX-TDA600 is
>> set-up for Analog/POTS, you can use a channel bank on the second T1/E1
>> port, and feed POTS into the KX-TDA600.
>>
>> For a small installation that wanted to keep their Nortel Key System, and
>> their Telco really wanted to provide a PRI instead of POTS (the Nortel
>> could only take pots), we used a dual T1 PCI card in an asterisk box, ran
>> PRI on the Telco interface, an ADIT 600 channel bank on the second
>> interface, and handed 4 POTS lines to the Nortel Key System.
>>
>> The key is to give your self the most flexibility to change later, and
>> preserve your existing investment.
>>
>> -Harry
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk (Ikka Tirtawidjaja)

[Mc GRATH Ricardo]

Dear ikka
Thanks, well the best way is by  SIP to E1 ISDN gateway (could use Digium, 
Audiocodes, Sangoma, etc.).
But should contemplated on KX-TDA600 ISDN PRI card KX-TDA0290 and configure as 
QSIG signalling.
I don't recommend to use ATA FXS converter, first problem you couldn't dial to 
any extension to KX-TDA600, PBX answer incoming call from analogue line through 
Voice mail configured as Automated attendant, or DISA card.
The other point is line attenuation. 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk

[Harry McGregor]

Hi,


You need to find out more about the configuration of this specific 
TDA600, as it could be either POTS or E1, once you know that, you can 
determine what options are best.


-Harry


On 09/13/2016 10:51 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:

Dear Harry,

Thx for the explanation.

My team manage building's PBX that use Asterisk 13.x.
We use Asterisk PBX for this buildings that have apartment and office 
customer.
From my Asterisk PBX, we connect to IPPhone (yealink) or ATA Converter 
(cisco SPA112).
Others are using PBX like panasonic analog, audiocodes SBC, etc, and 
we use ATA Converter to convert from SIP to Analog (CO Line)


Now, we have a new customer (tenant) that have Panasonic TDA600.
If we use FXS or ATA Converter, its going to have a lot of that, 
because this tenant going to use about 60 ext / sip line.
Replacing asterisk PBX on my (company) side or replace TDA600 on my 
customer side is not acceptable.

So we need to find a "win-win" solution for this.

Thx in advance,


Ikka




On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Harry McGregor 
mailto:hmcgre...@biggeeks.org>> wrote:


Hi,


On 09/13/2016 06:51 AM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:

Hi,

Is there anyone here who has experience connecting Asterisk (ver
13.8) with PBX Panasonic KX-TDA600 ?

The architecture more less like this :


Telco Sip Trunk ---> Asterisk 13 ---> Panasonic KX-TDA600 --->
Phone / Fax



What connectivity do you currently use for the KX-TDA600?  E1, T1,
POTS, BRI?

Others have suggested a SIP to E1/T1 gateway, which would let you
skip the asterisk box, if you don't have other uses for it.

Another option is to use a PCI-E E1/T1 interface card in the
asterisk box, especially if you already have an E1 or T1 interface
in the KX-TDA600. I personally don't like buying smaller then a
dual T1/E1 card, as the price difference between a dual and a
single is so small.  If the KX-TDA600 is set-up for Analog/POTS,
you can use a channel bank on the second T1/E1 port, and feed POTS
into the KX-TDA600.

For a small installation that wanted to keep their Nortel Key
System, and their Telco really wanted to provide a PRI instead of
POTS (the Nortel could only take pots), we used a dual T1 PCI card
in an asterisk box, ran PRI on the Telco interface, an ADIT 600
channel bank on the second interface, and handed 4 POTS lines to
the Nortel Key System.

The key is to give your self the most flexibility to change later,
and preserve your existing investment.

-Harry


Thanks in advance,


Regards,

Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia





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Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk

[Ikka Tirtawidjaja]

Dear Harry,

Thx for the explanation.

My team manage building's PBX that use Asterisk 13.x.
We use Asterisk PBX for this buildings that have apartment and office
customer.
>From my Asterisk PBX, we connect to IPPhone (yealink) or ATA Converter
(cisco SPA112).
Others are using PBX like panasonic analog, audiocodes SBC, etc, and we use
ATA Converter to convert from SIP to Analog (CO Line)

Now, we have a new customer (tenant) that have Panasonic TDA600.
If we use FXS or ATA Converter, its going to have a lot of that, because
this tenant going to use about 60 ext / sip line.
Replacing asterisk PBX on my (company) side or replace TDA600 on my
customer side is not acceptable.
So we need to find a "win-win" solution for this.

Thx in advance,


Ikka




On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Harry McGregor 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 09/13/2016 06:51 AM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there anyone here who has experience connecting Asterisk (ver 13.8)
> with PBX Panasonic KX-TDA600 ?
>
> The architecture more less like this :
>
>
> Telco Sip Trunk ---> Asterisk 13 ---> Panasonic KX-TDA600 ---> Phone / Fax
>
>
> What connectivity do you currently use for the KX-TDA600?  E1, T1, POTS,
> BRI?
>
> Others have suggested a SIP to E1/T1 gateway, which would let you skip the
> asterisk box, if you don't have other uses for it.
>
> Another option is to use a PCI-E E1/T1 interface card in the asterisk box,
> especially if you already have an E1 or T1 interface in the KX-TDA600. I
> personally don't like buying smaller then a dual T1/E1 card, as the price
> difference between a dual and a single is so small.  If the KX-TDA600 is
> set-up for Analog/POTS, you can use a channel bank on the second T1/E1
> port, and feed POTS into the KX-TDA600.
>
> For a small installation that wanted to keep their Nortel Key System, and
> their Telco really wanted to provide a PRI instead of POTS (the Nortel
> could only take pots), we used a dual T1 PCI card in an asterisk box, ran
> PRI on the Telco interface, an ADIT 600 channel bank on the second
> interface, and handed 4 POTS lines to the Nortel Key System.
>
> The key is to give your self the most flexibility to change later, and
> preserve your existing investment.
>
> -Harry
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia
>
>
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk

[Harry McGregor]

Hi,


On 09/13/2016 06:51 AM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja wrote:

Hi,

Is there anyone here who has experience connecting Asterisk (ver 13.8) 
with PBX Panasonic KX-TDA600 ?


The architecture more less like this :


Telco Sip Trunk ---> Asterisk 13 ---> Panasonic KX-TDA600 ---> Phone / Fax



What connectivity do you currently use for the KX-TDA600?  E1, T1, POTS, 
BRI?


Others have suggested a SIP to E1/T1 gateway, which would let you skip 
the asterisk box, if you don't have other uses for it.


Another option is to use a PCI-E E1/T1 interface card in the asterisk 
box, especially if you already have an E1 or T1 interface in the 
KX-TDA600. I personally don't like buying smaller then a dual T1/E1 
card, as the price difference between a dual and a single is so small.  
If the KX-TDA600 is set-up for Analog/POTS, you can use a channel bank 
on the second T1/E1 port, and feed POTS into the KX-TDA600.


For a small installation that wanted to keep their Nortel Key System, 
and their Telco really wanted to provide a PRI instead of POTS (the 
Nortel could only take pots), we used a dual T1 PCI card in an asterisk 
box, ran PRI on the Telco interface, an ADIT 600 channel bank on the 
second interface, and handed 4 POTS lines to the Nortel Key System.


The key is to give your self the most flexibility to change later, and 
preserve your existing investment.


-Harry


Thanks in advance,


Regards,

Ikka - Jakarta, Indonesia




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Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk (Ikka Tirtawidjaja)

[Ikka Tirtawidjaja]

Dear Mc Grath R,

Thx for the information.

If that TDA-600 can not use SIP Trunking, can we use "SIP to E1
converter/gateway" between my Asterisk Server and Panasonic KX-TDA600 ?

or from asterisk we convert the sip phone line with ATA Converter / FXS
Gateway, and then we connect the output (RJ11) to C0 on Panasonic TDA600 ?


Any recomendation for SIP to E1 gateway ?


Thx in advance

Ikka


On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Mc GRATH Ricardo 
wrote:

> Panasonic PBX KX-TDA600 it doesn't support SIP protocol for VoIP
> technology it only support H323 Trunk through 4 or 16 channels gateway
> card  and  TDM technology with  ISDN BRI and PRI card.
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic PBX connect to Asterisk (Ikka Tirtawidjaja)

[Mc GRATH Ricardo]

Panasonic PBX KX-TDA600 it doesn't support SIP protocol for VoIP technology it 
only support H323 Trunk through 4 or 16 channels gateway card  and  TDM 
technology with  ISDN BRI and PRI card.

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