Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Mark Pilgrim
On 8/26/05, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And before you say but my aggregator is nothing but a podcast client, and the feeds are nothing but links to enclosures, so it's obvious that the publisher wanted me to download them -- WRONG! The publisher might want that, or they might not

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Antone Roundy
On Monday, August 29, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Mark Pilgrim wrote: On 8/26/05, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And before you say but my aggregator is nothing but a podcast client, and the feeds are nothing but links to enclosures, so it's obvious that the publisher wanted me to download them --

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Antone Roundy
On Monday, August 29, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Antone Roundy wrote: ext:auto-download target=enclosures default=false / More robust would be: ext:auto-download target=[EMAIL PROTECTED]'enclosure'] default=false / ...enabling extension elements to be named in @target without

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-29 19:00]: More robust would be: ext:auto-download target=[EMAIL PROTECTED]'enclosure'] default=false / ...enabling extension elements to be named in @target without requiring a list of @target values to be maintained anywhere. Is it wise to

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Walter Underwood
--On Monday, August 29, 2005 10:39:33 AM -0600 Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As has been suggested, to inline images, we need to add frame documents, stylesheets, Java applets, external JavaScript code, objects such as Flash files, etc., etc., etc. The question is, with respect to

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Mark Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-29 18:20]: On 8/26/05, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying browsers should check robots.txt before downloading images? It's sad that such an inane dodge would even garner any attention at all, much less require a response. I’m with

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 05-08-26 à 18:59, Bob Wyman a écrit : Karl, Please, accept my apologies for this. I could have sworn we had the policy prominently displayed on the site. I know we used to have it there. This must have been lost when we did a site redesign last November! I'm really surprised that it

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread James M Snell
link rel=enclosure href=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=no / link rel=enclosure href=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=yes / content src=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=no / content src=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=yes / ??? -

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Eric Scheid
On 30/8/05 11:19 AM, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: link rel=enclosure href=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=no / link rel=enclosure href=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=yes / content src=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=no / content

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread James M Snell
Eric Scheid wrote: On 30/8/05 11:19 AM, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: link rel=enclosure href=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=no / link rel=enclosure href=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3; x:follow=yes / content src=http://www.example.com/enclosure.mp3;

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Eric Scheid
On 30/8/05 12:05 PM, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's kinda where I was going with x:follow=no|yes. An x:archive=no|yes would also make some sense but could also be handled with HTTP caching (e.g. set the referenced content to expire immediately). x:index=no|yes doesn't seem

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Walter Underwood
--On August 30, 2005 11:39:04 AM +1000 Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wrote up A Robots Processing Instruction for XML Documents http://atrus.org/writings/technical/robots_pi/spec-199912__/ That's a PI though, and I have no idea how well supported they are. I'd prefer a

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Walter Underwood
--On August 29, 2005 7:05:09 PM -0700 James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: x:index=no|yes doesn't seem to make a lot of sense in this case. It makes just as much sense as it does for HTML files. Maybe it is a whole group of Atom test cases. Maybe it is a feed of reboot times for the server.

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread Joe Gregorio
On 8/29/05, Walter Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was me. I think it makes perfect sense as a PI. But I think reuse via namespaces is oversold. For example, we didn't even try to use Dublin Core tags in Atom. Speak for yourself :) http://bitworking.org/news/Not_Invented_Here

Re: Don't Aggregrate Me

2005-08-29 Thread James M Snell
Walter Underwood wrote: --On August 30, 2005 11:39:04 AM +1000 Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wrote up A Robots Processing Instruction for XML Documents http://atrus.org/writings/technical/robots_pi/spec-199912__/ That's a PI though, and I have no idea how well supported

Top 10 and other lists should be entries, not feeds.

2005-08-29 Thread Bob Wyman
Im sorry, but I cant go on without complaining. Microsoft has proposed extensions which turn RSS V2.0 feeds into lists and weve got folk who are proposing much the same for Atom (i.e. stateful, incremental or partitioned feeds) I think they are wrong. Feeds arent lists and Lists arent