Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Same here. That's why I asked if there's been any word about this project from the developer lately. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616105/#p616105 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project This would be a huge game changer or the audio gaming world, and as a football fan, I am excited. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616093/#p616093 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project I can just say, oh my god. if this ever gets released, it will be my favourite game, no fucking dout. keep it up, i hope it's not abandoned, i really do. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616081/#p616081 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project I realise that. But after roughly a year without an update you can ask if the project is still being worked on, right? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616078/#p616078 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project 2. I can state without a doubt that AF is going to have the most complex AI ever written for an audio game. Perfecting this is very likely going to take up most of my time until the initial version is out. I'm going to explain game AI

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi,Sorry for topic necromancy, but are there any updates on the project? Is it still a thing? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616062/#p616062 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hello, I am sad to say that I am just finding this topic. Honestly I wish I could have seen it from the moment it was put up, but I wasn't really on this site much when it came out. However, I just wanted to say that I absolutely love

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Apologys for reviving this topic, but I can't help but wonder how this project is coming along? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/570672/#p570672 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project robjoy wrote:Awesome. We'll see how pricing and availability turns out later on, but he is definitely a candidate for me.@hadi.gsf Any luck with the formations? I am not trying to hurry you, take as much time as you need, especially

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project HiI wanted to ask how the project is going, what has been done, what are you working on, and do you need any help currently?I also wanted to ask if we can get in touch privately so I could give you quickly some feetbacks regarding

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Awesome. We'll see how pricing and availability turns out later on, but he is definitely a candidate for me.@hadi.gsf Any luck with the formations? I am not trying to hurry you, take as much time as you need, especially these days. I

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi,@Robjoy: I forgot to say that earlier, but the commentary samples you posted earlier in this thread Sound great, Keep them coming! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520541/#p520541 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Thanks @animal metal. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520495/#p520495 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project this is going to be awesome! keep it up URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519887/#p519887 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Sure, let me know how it goes and if it's confusing in any way, I can whip up a quick editor for you.Ah, this makes sense now. We can put this in too, I think, once the basics are done. This is probably going to be communication

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project ok. I will write an example for 4-4-2, and 4-2-3-1 and will  show it to you, and while doing that i'll see if i'll get confused or not, so if i did maybe i could ask you for an editor.Regarding second marker.In fifa, when you, or AI

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project you could just reference the horizontal and vertical positions, for example from 1 to 5 and 1 to 6, so for example 3 6 would be the middle of the opponent's box and penalty area, while 3 1 would be yours. Whenever there are more than 2

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi.You know, if you are splitting the field into regions, I have this little idea inside my head.What about an extra mode where you have smaller regions and actually walls around the field so the ball bounces back and can't go over

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Ok, that does sound good!In what format should i work on formations then? if i wanted to do it without an editor?Regarding player distances, i have to do research on this. Putting the types of marking aside, I know that players  run close

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Technically, the exact middle of the pitch is, you are right, tiny. In this case I am just thinking in thirds, which will allow the commentary to be more interesting, for example announce player names differently, based on which third

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project robjoy, I got confused a little.why do you think the midfield has to be twice big as the other areas?It does  seem  perfectly fine to me, if the field has 6 parts instead of 5, e.g. the midfield was also divided to two parts for coding

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project The problem I am seeing with a 5x5 distribution is that the midfield region will have to be twice as big as the other regions, so I think six vertical regions would make more sense. Say, if you are facing the opponent's goal, the first

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @robjoy do you think you could  divide it to 5 parts horizontally, and 5 parts verticaly? for two reasons.reason 1: I could define attacking, central and defending forms easier with formations such as 4-2-3-1, 3-4-2-1 and etc. these two

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @hadi.gsf I see what the problem is.How about we divide up the pitch into 18 regions? Left middle and right horizontally, and 6 vertical rows. So basically, each third has two halves and 3 regions in each half, 6 regions in a third

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi.At Robjoy I don't know if that has been discussed before, but how will you define the strengths and weeknesses of a player? What I would suggest is that a player has multiple abilitys like, shooting, passing, crossing, tackling and so

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project So robjoyYou pointed out the issue to your  formation solution, which i did not pay attention to, so good to bring it out!So the example you just gave, technically is the formation for a when the team is:1. deeply defending and is pressed

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project So robjoyYou pointed out the issue to your  formation solution, which i did not pay attention to, so good to bring it out!So the example you just gave, technically is the formation for a when the team is:1. deeply defending and is pressed

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @hadi.gsf Yes, I meant this exactly.So in the case of 4 2 3 1, this would be something like:p1 5 5 p2 25 5p3 45 5p4 65 5p5 5 25p6 65 25p7 5 50p8 35 50p9 70 50p10 35 70In defense position. Defenders are 20 meters apart, on the 5th meter

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @hadi.gsf Yes, I meant this exactly.So in the case of 4 2 3 1, this would be something like:p1 5 5 p2 25 5p3 45 5p4 65 5p5 5 25p6 65 25p7 5 50p8 35 50p9 70 50p10 35 70In defense position. Defenders are 20 meters apart, on the 5th meter

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project And sense I'm a sound engineer as well, I could probably record things if I can't find a library. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519550/#p519550 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project I could also help with sounds. I have over 1 tb of them and new ones get purchased or downloaded every few months depending on what the clients need. I can also possibly find a few friends that could do commentary. URL: https

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Can you explain some more on what you mean by attacking formations? At first i thought you ment the formations that are designed for attacking, but then now i realize you mean something else.On a 4-4-2 formations, and  on formations like

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project You just shortened development time by about a month or two, thank you very much!For international matches, I think the dimensions are from 64 to 75 meters for the goal line, and 100 to 110 for the touch line. We could go with something

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project You just shortened development time by about a month or two, thank you very much!For international matches, I think the dimensions are from 64 to 75 meters for the goal line, and 100 to 110 for the touch line. We could go with something

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project I don't know about others, but  I can spend some time and either use your formation editor and  make all the possible  practical formations or i can list them here for you if you want to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519488

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project This is very interesting to read, and it is incredibly useful. I will have to make slight modifications, but based on what you explained, I think Fifa and PES did the right decision to make a formation database.If I whipped up a quick

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Ok, so regarding positioningYour initial thinking is perfectly correct. In football, the teams arrange in a formation literally in front of each other, and they keep moving back and forth, in formation, as the ball moves between the two

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project I'm absolutely horrible at programming concepts and logic, so all i can do is to describe how the real football is played, so then you can find logical ways to implement it in your game. i'm pretty sure you do have to sacrifice some

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project I'm absolutely horrible at programming concepts and logic, so all i can do is to describe how the real football is played, so then you can find logical ways to implement it in your game. i'm pretty sure you do have to sacrifice some

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Ok, so regarding positioningYour initial thinking is perfectly correct. In football, the teams arrange in a formation literally in front of each other, and they keep moving back and forth, in formation, as the ball moves between the two

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Regarding updates, I think what you are suggesting is what I was planning to implement. If I can avoid it, I'd rather not pressure people into buying new versions, and support the project when they feel it deserves it. While this might

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Regarding updates, I think what you are suggesting is what I was planning to implement. If I can avoid it, I'd rather not pressure people into buying new versions, and support the project when they feel it deserves it. While this might

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project robjoy wrote:Updating player stats is actually one of the reasons why I'd like to release a new version every year, if possible. That is, of course, if I have enough new content.Unless I absolutely have to, I will try to not break

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project robjoy wrote:Updating player stats is actually one of the reasons why I'd like to release a new version every year, if possible. That is, of course, if I have enough new content.Unless I absolutely have to, I will try to not break

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project robjoy wrote:@hadi.gsf This is exactly what I need at the AI development stage, thank you so much!For example, if a forward has the ball, in a 4 4 2 formation, the other forward would either move to an open position to receive a pass

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project robjoy wrote:@hadi.gsf This is exactly what I need at the AI development stage, thank you so much!For example, if a forward has the ball, in a 4 4 2 formation, the other forward would either move to an open position to receive a pass

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Updating player stats is actually one of the reasons why I'd like to release a new version every year, if possible. That is, of course, if I have enough new content.Unless I absolutely have to, I will try to not break backward

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @hadi.gsf This is exactly what I need at the AI development stage, thank you so much!For example, if a forward has the ball, in a 4 4 2 formation, the other forward would either move to an open position to receive a pass (if support

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Also, I had a suggestion, Now that you're plotting plans and deciding the fundamentals of your game, Please consider allowing the database to be editable by users, so we could update the rosters and or adjust player stats depending

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @Lettsee Thank you!I am currently investigating what option would be the best playing against, when it comes to positions. I know that Fifa and PES use a formation database, but I am looking into whether dynamic positioning, e.g. still

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi there robjoyAs a crazed football fan who follows matches  every week and all the dramas every hour, I am very excited by what you're achieving and wish you the best, best luck.I do however, want to point out a few things, that i'd

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hey Robjoy,First off congratulations on taking on such a huge project, being a huge sports fan it would be amazing to see this happen. With the AI you have described it would be incredible to actually be able to play a game like this. I

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Thanks guys for your trust and encouragement, it really means a lot. I'm currently putting in about 8 to 10 hours a day to research tactics, work on the AI and whenever I have a break, I'm looking for extras, such as candidates

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hello,When I saw this topic I was like no, I don't think this will get anywhere. But when I saw Robjoy as the poster I was like yeah, this is gonna be serious. Good luck! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519254/#p519254

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Have you decided if this game will cost? If so I will be buying this one.I hope that you will have FIFA and MLS rules in the game. I hope that players can play through the MLS even if it is a made up league. URL: https

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Well hmmm, I do have some sound ideas libs but yeah I got them from somewhere, mainly for me to listen to and use, but hmmm I don't own those so couldn't use them.I have some prosfx libraries which I do own and the complete authentic see

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hello.robjoy, this is a very ambitious project, and I say congrats to you. I wish you all the luck in the world. In case of national teams, I wouldn't mind with West Indian or even flat out Indian names. As for custom packs, I think

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi@robjoy Thank you very much for all your answers.the truth that everything is heard very well. If I can think of more questions or suggestions, I will be discussing them here.good luck and go ahead with this great project!Greetings

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hey robjoy.Oh man. This game would really be a dream become true.I wanted a game like this for years and years so I am pretty excited indeed.I don't have anything useful to add really just thought I would jump in here to wish you best

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Just for giggles, I've contacted FIFPro, to inquire about player name licensing. Since we are not interested in player likeness, as the game will not contain graphics, I can obtain a license for current players in Europe for 25

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Just for giggles, I've contacted FIFPro, to inquire about player name licensing. Since we are not interested in player likeness, as the game will not contain graphics, I can obtain a license for current players in Europe for 25000 dollars

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project When it comes to commentary just use TTS. I know that using TTS is generic.However it gets the job done. Plus when players add new teams and players it will say the names.If you use a real good TTS voice that sounds real then it should

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @12, I mean when you want to shot the ball you shouldn't be able to move.also for commentary, I suggest to use Dectalk for the first versions or you can use a deep learning method which can learn and pronounce the names of the players

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi@robjoy Thank you very much for all your answers. Everything has become much clearer to me.Regarding the comments, I think that with the edited equipment that the output method is the screen reader or the sapi is fine.And here another

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project While this would increase costs, I really like the numbered approach, as it does not interrupt the game flow by switching to a different voice/screen reader.Announcing player names is going to be a priority. It will probably take us some

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project The way it works for Pes, if a player name was not recorded as a commentary, his number is instead announced. So what you could do is record numbers from 1 to 100, then for each team assign numbers to each player in the squad

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi,Unfortunately, since licensing official teams and players is something that is definitely out of the question for various reasons, such as high royalties that I would rather spend on game audio and updating the commentary

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi.Well a team editor might just bring in the same comunity efford as it does for example with the pes series, for every game you can find data packs of missing teams on fan pages which can be implemented. So, technically everyone could

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @FabiG94 Thank you very much. The Spanish community was actually one of the reasons why I am going to put a lot of emphasis on making the game translatable.Regarding player skills, you are absolutely right. Internally, this is going

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project One thing that would be cool is to be able not just to edit teams and players. But be able to add teams and players the the data base of the game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518860/#p518860 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi@robjoy this sounds really great and great. so first of all, my congratulations on such an ambitious projectseveral things. Regarding the search for funding, I would suggest that football is probably the most popular sport in the world

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Thanks @visualstudio.Defense at the moment works in a way that the following actions can happen. They are rated based on a few factors, such as formation (i.e. how close you are to your set position when defending in your third

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project HiRobjoy you sure can add me to the group, I will be ready to spend a lot of my time to help you as much as I can and of course give some tipps from my 8 years long video gaming experience.Best regardsVojvoda URL: https

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project hi,I am also willing to contribute by any means I can.also something related to AI:when you have the ball, the apponent should chase you (by seeking) and when the apponent has the ball and you are chasing him, he should evade you

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project @crashmaster Luckily, I am in a position where I have a very good sound designer and we're probably going to spend hours going through what we need and how things should sound like in the game mix. As long as you have legal rights

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi,If a game like that would be released, it would be a dream come true for me. I want to Play a game lie this since I heard about FIFA.So thank you for attempting to do this!I would be happy to help at some Point, but sadly I don't have

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi.I also want to congratulate you on that endeavour, these are the ideas and concepts we need in the audiogaming scene these days.I guess I can't help you programing wise, I do want to leave the field to those who actually know what

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi robjoy.Wow, this looks like something I could get into.I do have several sound libraries and such here, I could have a go at some audio, maybe.It would all depend on the audio, I mean if this is a fixed audio type deal all well

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Thanks @vojvoda. I'm glad to hear that there is interest, knowing that headaches are worth it is definitely motivation that I need right now. Not to mention your generous offer.Any info or technical help is useful. Knowing

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project HiI am happy that someone decided to make first step in developing such a complicated game. As someone who was a hardcore video gamer I really miss playing fifa and PES. Unfortunately thanks  to my sight loss I can not play them

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Thank you very much in advance, @nidza07.You are right, making your game translatable from the start is a must, and it makes a developer's life a lot easier in the long run.In the case of this project, this is even more important

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Thank you very much in advance, @nidza07.You are right, making your game translatable from the start is a must, and it makes a developer's life a lot easier in the long run.In the case of this project, this is even more important

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project

Re: Input needed for planned audio football project Hi. First of all, thanks so much for attempting such a project. This is one type of game I really wanted for a long time. Your ideas are really good. While you are right that you cannot include real teams and real player names

Input needed for planned audio football project

Input needed for planned audio football project Hi all,For people in the US, football here refers to soccer. Buckle up, this is going to be a long post. Any input is appreciated, in fact, I am posting this here to spur a healthy discussion.Being a long-time Fifa player myself, I stopped