Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Yes. For example, there is absolutely no way Addictive Drums would be as accessible/eficient as it is now without the NKS standard. If you approach music and audio with an instant grat mindset you will be lost/stuck, there is no two-ways

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Agreed with 22.  It's kind of like the difference between playing a song and playing music.  A lot of kids will come up to me and ask me hey, can you teach me to play "insert name of song I think is cool here" on guitar?  I'm like,

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone And that right there is the problem. That balance is so hard to reach. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569468/#p569468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Usability is also demographic based. For example, you wouldn't expect someone to be doing a Daw who can't tell a listbox from a slider. DAW's are not computer-newbie-friendly in their very nature (if there were, there wouldn't be a market

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Jack,True point, though usability, should, in theory, go hand in hand with accessibility. I agree with your general assumption, but that won't always be the case. Applications should be usable enough for anyone especially in those cases. Who

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone To my knowledge, the KOmplete Kontrol software isn't that much more accessible on Mac either - there are still Keyboard Maestro macros for it. Granted, there are those for Windows as well, but the audio settings and vst directories are still

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Granted, I do not believe the KK software itself is accessible windows side either, so there's that.  At least Mac users have that luxury.  The rest, however, as best I can tell, from downloading and installing instruments to integrating them

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Mich: You're actually only partially correct on that.accessibility=labeled controls and elements one way or anotherUsability is what you're describin, will it work for people regardless of their technological experience. There's a pretty

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @12 That's really cool.I don't agree we should just take what we're given and be grateful. Not when they're still pushing how they're so in on accessibility. Not when half this shit isn't all that hard to implement.Object nav is fine but it's

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Jack:I agree with you on your main poinarst regarding the state of Native Access. For me, on MacOS, it's completely accessible to use.However, I believe teven though it can be accessible on Windows, it isn't truly accessible if it's

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Thank you, Jack, and much agreed.  Yes, there is stuff left to be desired.  I love Action strikes, but at present, I've a sneaking suspicion I haven't been able to access all of it.  Thrill is another clasic example of something sighted

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Ironcross32: Could the problem perhaps be that the blind music and audio folks are few and far between? And by that I mean people who are the real deal and know what they're talking about when it comes to this stuff, not just folks who just

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ManFromTheDark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone https://www.ericasynths.lv/https://fenestra.lv/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569180/#p569180 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ManFromTheDark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Sorry for jumping directions a little, but there's at least one synth hardware company actually and really interested in us, thus making shit more accessible. That's none other, than Erica synths from Latvia, who make mostly eurorack modular

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone What of it there is for us is accessible, yes. But more than that is left untouched in the software. I'm glad for what we do have, but that's not to say that I think they shouldn't do more.I don't like the whole argument that goes something

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @9 I don't think its totally a double standard. I mean I get what you're saying and I'm not on either extreme side of the fence for the record. But there is difference between an audio described video and a piece of hardware that 99% of its

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone I find the doublestandard here very interesting.  It's truly phenomenal for a huge mainstream gaming company to produce audio descriptive trailors for games the blind will probably never be able to play.  It's really not all that great

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone I find the doublestandard here very interesting.  It's truly phenomenal for a huge mainstream gaming company to produce audio descriptive trailors for games the blind will probably never be able to play.  It's really not all that great

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @7 You have some good points here.I'm sure someone's gonna come and call you a negative nancy, good for them. I mean, I'm not expected them to just hand things to me so I can get shit done. I made a whole album on Audacity. No fucking MIDI

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone What NI did is valuable in the sense that it's useful to blind musicians, and in terms of stuff I'd buy/use myself I'd get them for that reason (and indeed I have one).But as a programmer: we waited a year for MK II to work on Windows

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @5 ... rofl URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569016/#p569016 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : zenothrax via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Native Instruments can bite my shiny metal ass. Nuff said. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569012/#p569012 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @3 i can not even get their free sounds cause native access. So first when i load it up with nvda it always puts me in a nonexisttant inputbox. When i do it with narrator i can start download of complete start, but it only downloads a few

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @2 I'm still hopeful they may be working on something. I don't think anyone else was going to do NKS, that's a step in the rite direction. Pro tools isn't that accessible on Windows either and as far as I'm aware is 100% usable on Mac. NI

Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone They're not embracing shit man. NO effort's been made since like 2015-2016 except porting existing features to new hardware. I'm tired of them acting like they stand for accessibility because they're just riding on past successes. URL: https

New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone

2020-09-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Looks like NI is going to try to compete with the standalone MCPs with their own standalone hardware based around the Maschine workflow.https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p … tent=ownedReally curious to see what people think