Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned nah, they never bought me much, either once I left school, and college was a nightmare without all they could have done.  I was using my familie's computer for just about everything... Try sharing a PC with your older brother and your younger sister for a change

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned I don't really understand the theory behind it, but apparently the braille displays use some form of piezoelectric jiggery pokery. That, plus the pins makes it cost a good bit to manufacture. It doesn't mean they don't mark it up to they can profit too, which

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Hi seconded nokturnusI can sympathise for that, as for the cost of braille displays, yeah their mechanical nature is where their major cost comes in.They are aware and are trying to get that down, but to do that they need to get rid of the pin system.THe

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned @TJT1234,And on the other side of the spectrum you have employers who hire people who they deem "passionate workers."  It's extra work.  It means you have a passion for doing a job and you don't complain about anything whatsoever because you are a

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned We are a niche market, however, that doesn't fully explain the price of Jaws. They are essentially in maintenance mode at this point. Nothing new, no innovations, just keeping up with Microsoft. It's sad and it's wrong how they continue to demand large sums

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned My post is completely off-topic--please disregard it if you like.Nocturnus, in post 18, you are misinterpreting the statement about "Live your life to the fullest." I completely understand where you and the other people chiming in on it are c

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned My post is completely off-topic--please disregard it if you like.Nocturnus, in post 18, you are misinterpreting the statement about "Live your life to the fullest." I completely understand where you and the other people chiming in on it are c

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Draq via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned The high price of JAWS does make me wonder how much the programmers and tech support people are paid. Also I wonder how much it costs to manufacture a Braille display based on their prices. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=286074#p286074

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned @severestormsteve1,Nicely phrased and well taken.  I suppose that's why we all get a little angry when FS puts out yet another version of JAWS that doesn't seem to have anything especially new or exciting and we're all going, "yo!  Why am I paying a tho

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned @severestormsteve1,Nicely phrased and well taken.  I suppose that's why we all get a little angry when JAWS puts out yet another version that doesn't seem to have anything especially new or exciting and we're all going, "yo!  Why am I paying a thousand do

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned @18 the general principle is that anyone is free to pursue life, liberty and happiness, so long as it doesn't conflict with someone Else's. In other words, a member of ISIS is not free to walk up to someone and cut their head off for not following their doctrine

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned @17 agreed. OCR is kind of a holdout, a last shot to me, since the results of which can range from OK to horribly illegible. I see no issue in letting a company know about accessibility issues in a product. Obviously, you would gain better favor if you acted

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned I must emphasise before continuing further that this post is one of those posts that, if you read it with the idea that you're being refered to personally, you're probably going to take offense to it.  I can't stress this enough; I'm refering to no one person

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Draq via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned This reminds me of a conversation I was having with someone over Skype chat, as it sort of deals with the whole entitlement thing.It started with Virtual MIDI Synth. We were talking about how the new beta version's tabs have to be navigated by using OCR

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Yes, that is true: ignoring it is the best option, because there is in fact nothing that can be done about it. Though that whole part above what you said about the parenting thing, it seems like it gets a bit of a pass around here, (edge of winter as one example

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned People sometimes don't take time out to think how their comments affect the other. Not saying that is always going to be a factor, for instance, if I buy something and it is not what I paid for, either because it is not as the description said, it does not work

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Also I noticed I did put "assume an administrative role in the community", so that could've also been perceived as attack on forum staff. I should probably consider re-wording my figurative language. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Hi steve, interesting topic.We all have our lives some more sheltered than others.Now I know a lot has changed, some stuff for the better, a lot of stuff not.I grew up in the 90s just when the blind and disabled were exiting the institutionalised space we had

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Yes, you did misunderstand me: this thread has not been about the audio games.net forum: it's the blind community in general. The self appointed higher ups and admins reference was not targeting actual administrators of online communities as I said. Parental

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned @severestormsteve1,I hope I'm not misunderstanding any of what you're saying, and I'm fully aware that my post may be unwarranted, so I'll ask for forgiveness in advance in the event I'm barking up the wrong tree here.I have not assumed an administrative role

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned That's the point though. I don't mind people who disagree with my opinion, -- it's going to happen. It's happening, and it's happened. And yes, that happens all over the internet, school, work, families everywhere. But I do not find, that when arguing

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned That's the point though. I don't mind people who disagree with my opinion, -- it's going to happen. It's happening, and it's happened. And yes, that happens all over the internet, school, work, families everywhere. But I do not find, that when arguing

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Oh by George, Ringo John and Paul! Okay, there are a lot of different issues in this topic that are being somewhat conflated into one matter. First, there is a huge difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Constructive criticism  is intended

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned *Gets halfway through first post*Eh, no, that's not a blind people thing. That's a people-in-general thing.*Keeps reading*Yp, I still don't think this needs to be an identity-politics-thing. Yes, we're talking about patterns of behavior in the blind

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned And we can't forget the "let's not complain or Microsoft/Apple/Google will take Narrator/Voiceover/Chromevox/Talkback out of there devices or something. After all, we should all be grateful for what we have, what these great companies have given us, and

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ishan Dhami via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Hi then I have a lot of questions. 1 what is the softest manner of complaining?kindly or please words if someone adds in his.her poststhen wether it should be listened or not. 2we know that we  belongs to the minority group. so what do you think whether

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sam_Tupy via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned This topic is the best topic I have scene on this audio games forum in absolutely months... I think that is putting what 80 percent of us are thinking into words. This has happened to me on many occasions, more than I really care to remember right now. If anyone

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : hhurstseth405 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned That is why I try not to get involved with the blind, especially the main stream blind or any of there groups, I find them to be very rood. A lot of blind people don't like politics and they have the idea that they need to dictate what I say. They think when I

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned I would, and here's why:Those are just certain people. It's not everyone in the community. "This is just stupid, it's a worthless piece of crap!", comments like that, I can get. But when it's a hostile fed up comment, such as I've been told off f

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jason SW via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Hi Steve,A very good post.I definitely agree that we have the right to express our opinions and give feedback. However, I feel that we really need to make sure that we express ourselves in a non-hostile manner, when possible. I definitely see where some of those

Re: I'm seriously concerned

2016-11-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jason SW via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm seriously concerned Hi Steve,A very good post.I definitely agree that we have the right to express our opinions and give feedback. However, I feel that we really need to make sure that we express ourselves in a non-hostile manner, when possible. I definitely see where some of those