Re: Constant battle location

2021-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Constant battle location

Moderation:As has been previously stated numerous times, this game (and discussion of it) is not permitted on this forum. If you wish to continue conversing about this topic, please do so elsewhere. Thread locked.

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Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

2021-03-07 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

Hawgpadre wrote:I have made a few friends (and more than a few enemies) in the blind communityYou don't say! I can't seem to figure out why that is.Also Hawgpadre wrote:You do you, bro.  As long as I'm admin on Wayfar I'll ban people as I see fit.Ah... It all makes sense now!Sincerely,- A potential player who saw this thread just in time

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Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

2021-03-07 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

Hawgpadre wrote:I have made a few friends (and more than a few enemies) in the blind communityYou don't say! I can't seem to figure out why that is.Also Hawgpadre wrote:You do you, bro.  As long as I'm admin on Wayfar I'll ban people as I see fit.Ah... It all makes sense now!Sincerely,- A potential would-be player who saw this thread just in time

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Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

2021-03-07 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

Hawgpadre wrote:I have made a few friends (and more than a few enemies) in the blind communityYou don't say! I can't seem to figure out why that is.Also Hawgpadre wrote:You do you, bro.  As long as I'm admin on Wayfar I'll ban people as I see fit.Ah... It all makes sense now!Sincerely,- A would-be player who saw this thread just in time

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Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

2021-03-07 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: sci-fi muds, wayfar1444.

Hawgpadre wrote:I have made a few friends (and more than a few enemies) in the blind communityYou don't say! I wonder why that is?Also Hawgpadre wrote:You do you, bro.  As long as I'm admin on Wayfar I'll ban people as I see fit.Ah... that's why.

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Re: warning! Something you should be aware off when you go to SBYW

2021-02-10 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: warning! Something you should be aware off when you go to SBYW

@andy_the_blindy: If you (OR YOUR FRIEND) wishes to plead their case or submit a report, you're more than welcome to reach out to the administration formally as a whole. sbyw-adm...@ims-productions.comThrowing unfounded accusations and publicly attempting to spread conspiracies about the game's administration is absolutely not going to help your case. Please insure that you have logs to back up your claims as well!

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Re: A Western Drama: the podcast!

2021-02-05 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: A Western Drama: the podcast!

Moderation:Topic moved!

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Re: constant battle request.

2020-12-22 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: constant battle request.

Moderation:@Aryamansingh, consider this an official warning. In case it wasn't already made abundantly clear, this particular game is not to be discussed or shared here, no exceptions. While we don't hold it against users who may unknowingly and accidentally initiate discussion of this game, you continued to blatantly discuss it and ask for assistance pertinent to it, even after being warned of its illegitimacy from multiple users. I highly suggest that you peruse the sticky thread in this category pertaining to unauthorized forks, to avoid repeats of this  scenario in the future.I'm also going to be locking this thread, given that it serves no useful purpose.

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Re: Vast Horizon

2020-10-20 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Vast Horizon

Moderation:Until such time that this game's soundpack is altered to not contain stolen assets, we as the staff have elected to ban the discussion and sharing of it from the forum. Discussion of the game is still permitted (provided it isn't discovered to be utilizing illegitimate code or other resources), but the soundpack is off the table for the time being.

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Re: Vast Horizon

2020-10-18 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Vast Horizon

Sorry, I don't buy the whole "The soundpack they just through together to have something for people when they joined" excuse in the slightest. Developing an online game requires a lot of time and effort; if they can't even be bothered to compliment it with original sounds, it says a lot about the developers and the potential future of the game.It's also worth noting that, should this game indeed be found to contain any illegitimate materials (whether code or otherwise), it will more likely than not be subjected to the same treatment that other games harboring stolen assets receive on the forum.

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Re: the blank game 2? how to defeat Tenshaino?

2020-10-17 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: the blank game 2? how to defeat Tenshaino?

Moderation:Moving this topic to General Game Discussion, as it's not a new release.

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Re: accessibility for the oculus quest 2

2020-09-19 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: accessibility for the oculus quest 2

Moderation:Moving this topic to General Game Discussion, as that's where it belongs.

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Re: How do you like anticapca.com?

2020-09-06 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How do you like anticapca.com?

Moderation:Moving this to the off topic room, since that's where it belongs.

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Re: What games would you like in the community?

2020-09-01 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What games would you like in the community?

Moderation:Topic moved to General Game Discussion.

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Re: Can somebody give me a download for mushclient?

2020-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Can somebody give me a download for mushclient?

haily_merry wrote:Thought that version wasn't accessible though? I'll have to take a look at mushZ, I assumed it did the thing of auto connecting to alter, and quite honestly I have no idea how I'd go about stopping it from doing that.Googling both of these issues should yield resolutions.

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Re: Can somebody give me a download for mushclient?

2020-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Can somebody give me a download for mushclient?

MUSH-Z can most definitely be used to play other MUDs. If you're still set on locating a download of the original client, a bit of Googling should yield the developer's website.

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Re: A New MOO Core work in progress!

2020-05-28 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: A New MOO Core work in progress!

haily_merry wrote:Agreed about the account systems, though you could always rip one out in favour of the other without much effort.My problem with basically every publically available moo core is how minimalistic they all are. Now you could say that's kind of the idea, and you'd be right to a point, but like, where's my menu system for help files and such? My more advanced account system? Even toastcore doesn't have these, or if it does then they're not enabled by default or something because I sure haven't found them. These are really standard features that basically every moo in existence has.Interesting claims! Last I checked, the majority of MOOs prefer to stick with the standard LambdaCore character management system instead of opting for a more robust account setup. You may benefit from learning how to program in MOO and making something of your own. Cores are called "cores" for a reason; You can't expect to boot them up for the first time and be ready for players.Also regarding your gripe about the lack of a menu system on ToastCore... Check out $menu_utils. There you go!

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Re: question finding archons on coffeemud

2020-02-28 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: question finding archons on coffeemud

If all else fails and you are unsuccessful in resetting your password, you may wish to simply start with a fresh CoffeeMUD installation and just re-import all your areas/code.

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Re: The Killer: Ultra Power 2.0 with a side of suckysauce?

2017-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The Killer: Ultra Power 2.0 with a side of suckysauce?

@blink_wizard and Ernie, I fail to see your point. As I mentioned, I'm going back to making money. This would imply that I took a break from doing so to skim through AudioGames.net, read over a quick topic, leave my opinion then go back to do what I do best. What do you do, Ivan? Waste your already boring life developing games for a blink community when you yourself hold no form of professionalism whatsoever? Lying out of audio game development you're pretty stupid as well. If I didn't know better I'd say you have a few disorders, but unfortunately it's just Stupid Syndrome.

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Re: The Killer: Ultra Power 2.0 with a side of suckysauce?

2017-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The Killer: Ultra Power 2.0 with a side of suckysauce?

Jesus Christ, who the fuck cares? Don't you people have lives? Since when does AudioGame development include dick-waving contest about who's the better admin? All these games suck dick regardless of who runs them. Happy now? Now bye, I've got to return to my real life making money.

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Re: The Killer: Ultra Power 2.0 with a side of suckysauce?

2017-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The Killer: Ultra Power 2.0 with a side of suckysauce?

Jesus Christ, this is stupid. Don't you people have somewhat of a life? Quit sitting on AudioGames.net having a dick waving contest on who's server is better. Ivan is a retard. Clearly you care if you felt the need to post this publicly.

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Re: oriolgomez.com open sources all bgt games !

2017-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: oriolgomez.com open sources all bgt games !

You, sir, are amazing.

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Re: My Road to rage server: How to handle the cheaters?

2017-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: My Road to rage server: How to handle the cheaters?

@SLJ, just wondering, how did you get a Linux copy of the server? That would be nice so I can always keep my server running.

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Re: Can I still buy a copy of treasure hunt or get it for free?

2017-05-10 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Can I still buy a copy of treasure hunt or get it for free?

I actually know a way to patch it and unlock the full version, using the Judgement Day .reg crack. If I find it again, I'll test it and let you all know if it succeeds, then if so I'll post it here.

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Re: Dglexsoft MOOs are back, sort of?

2016-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Dglexsoft MOOs are back, sort of?

Hello!Vast Space (Classic)is more or less a heavily modified and fixed up version of Cosmos.You can sift, haul asteroids, engage in ground and space combat, salvage in space, work as a courier delivering cargo, and much more!Vast Space, the current one, was built from scrqatch.We have an all original space system, space combat system, beginning of ground combat, planet cracking, mining materials, starship building, atmospheric salvaging, etc. All originally  designed from the ground up.They're both MOOs, so you can connect with any preferred MUD client. I personally recommend MUSHClient.Thanks!-Dgleks-Dglexsoft

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Re: Dglexsoft MOOs are back, sort of?

2016-10-09 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Dglexsoft MOOs are back, sort of?

Oh, and 1 more thing. When you create your account, your validation email might take a while to hit your inbox, and most of the time it'll be in your junk/spam folder. The resend validation feature in the account system is currently broken.If you don't receive your email after about half an hour, please send me a pm here with your account ID or post in this thread with it and I'll get you working.Thanks!

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Dglexsoft MOOs are back, sort of?

2016-10-09 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Dglexsoft MOOs are back, sort of?

Greetings!As most of you probably remember, a few years ago a group of friends and I ran a few MOOs. Unfortunately, do to my focus on real life situations, starting up business, and taking my music career to the next level, I no longer have the time nore the patients to develop and maintain them.That being said, I've received countless emails and have had quite a few people reach out to me asking about the status of Vast Space and when/if it'll ever return.I finally took the time to grab the latest backups I could find and I've got them up and running once again for those that are way too bored to go to bed late at night A few things worth noting:* These are old databases! Don't be surprised if there is stuff laying around that references 2014/2013.* 1 of these databases, Vast Space (Classic), came around originally from a 
 Cosmos database. If you see Cosmos references throughout your gameplay on there, that would be why.* All non-host/builder characters from either database were purged and deleted from the system. This also includes your accounts. Hosts and builders have been archived and effectively locked out for security reasons. If you had a host and/or a builder character on any or both of these databases, please create a new account and let me know so we can figure something out.* These databases might have to be taken down should I need to use my server space for more important situations. Only reason I have them up right now is because I don't really have anything better to do with my server space.* I am not providing any real support to these databases!I don't plan on developing these databases anytime soon or ever again, however I do sit around logged in quite often. If there are bugs I come across or ideas for something small to code in while I've got 
 nothing going on, there's a chance I will do so. If any bugs are found, you're more than welcome to @send me a MOOMail about it or a message on here about it. That doesn't mean I'll get to it, but hey, all you can do is try! And finally, the connection info!Vast Space (Classic)Host: dglexsoft.ddns.netPort: 1234Vast Space (Current)Host: dglexsoft.ddns.netport: Hope you guys enjoy!-Dgleks-Dglexsoft

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Re: post-apocaliptic mud games

2016-10-09 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: post-apocaliptic mud games

Hello!Cyber Assault, for the most part is pretty screen-reader friendly. Over the years the imms have been adding more blind friendly gameplay options that have aided in making it the great MUD it is today.It's not too populated with players, but it's a great game none the less, and something I can always rely on to take me away from a bad day.Back to the original topic, if anyone wants to play HellMOO but without all the jerk admins, pervert players, and age requirement, post back here and I might be able to fire up the copy of the HellMOO database I have, if I get a chance to do so. It's not the most updated copy, but it has the areas, npc's, objects, jobs/journals, etc that come on the original HellMOO that will keep you entertained.Thanks!

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Re: How to rip files baked into executables

2016-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to rip files baked into executables

Ethin, depending where you live it may be law that you're not allowed to do such things to the intelectual property of others. Not saying you're wrong, just a friendly reminder.

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Re: How to rip files baked into executables

2016-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to rip files baked into executables

Ethin, you are actually doing that, just because it's not code doesn't mean it's not considered reverse engineering. You're altering it into a different format/creating representations of the system in another form or at a higher level of abstraction. So yeah, you, by definition, would be reverse engineering.

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Re: How to rip files baked into executables

2016-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to rip files baked into executables

Ethin, it's still considered reverse engineering. You're taking the product and modifying it/ taking sounds and turning them into human playable form. LOL

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Re: How to rip files baked into executables

2016-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to rip files baked into executables

ghost rider No one's stirring up shit here, go back to bed.

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Re: How to rip files baked into executables

2016-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to rip files baked into executables

It's not hard to find, that is why I am telling you to keep searching.And the forum strictly states no cracking games is allowed, or discussion of it. You're ascencially cracking a game by attempting to break into it's executables.And it can get you in trouble with the law as most games have licenses that don't permit the reverse engineering of said product.

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Re: How to rip files baked into executables

2016-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to rip files baked into executables

LOL .. What would be your perhaps just reasoning for wanting to "rip" files out of executables? just for decorations on your desktop? This forum has strict rules not to discuss cracks and hacking. P.s. It's really easy to do, keep searching and you'll find it eventually. That's all I'll say.

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Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

2015-12-27 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

No one threatened you on Alter Aeon. You're an idiot. Nothing whatsoever pertaining to the situation went on on Alter Aeon.

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Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

2015-12-27 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

And I bribed no one, he's just a loyal friend. Unlike some people on this thread *coughs* Rory McDonald.

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Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

2015-12-27 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

Ah, and back to the real names. I'm telling Viclious as we speak. And correction, he lives in a different country, doesn't mean he's there right now. And no one likes you on Alter Aeon. And I can prove it. The only ones that like you are a select few and only because they feel sorry for your general retardedness.

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244459#p244459





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Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

2015-12-27 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

Oh and Rory, almost no one likes you on the game, so don't start that crap.

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Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

2015-12-27 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: I've been threatened on alter aeon

For 1, This post has nothing to be doing here.For 2, No one threatened you on Alter Aeon. Viclious called you out of game.For 3, I'm pretty sure saying real names here is against the rules too, so maybe I'll tell Viclious.Thanks!

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Re: DeathMatch, a new beginning

2015-10-27 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: DeathMatch, a new beginning

Oy! Deary me! I'd like to test as well. PM me on Skype for my email address.

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Re: mota verssions

2015-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: mota verssions

Hey,Was the Mota uploaded it? I really wanna play the beta.Thanks.-Dgleks

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Re: vast space stuff

2015-05-20 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: vast space stuff

@Jesseleivo, no, we won't. So, with all good riddance, please buzz off and go away.

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Re: mota verssions

2015-04-25 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: mota verssions

I used to have all the old betas. I'd do anything to get them back as I loved playing them back in the day! 

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=213689#p213689




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Re: vast space stuff

2015-04-11 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: vast space stuff

Burak, as far as I know this doesn't really need another 2 sence. I'm not saying that to be rude, but it's best if the people in this thread could be kept to as low as possible.Also, no need to contridict my post. Thank you!-Dgleks

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=211892#p211892




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Re: vast space stuff

2015-04-10 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: vast space stuff

This is getting very old Jesse.Let's get 1 thing straight.I can ban you for whatever reason, whenever, however I want.I'm tired of dealing with your bullshit and frankly so is everybody else. I don't care how sorry you are, you know why? because you do this all the time.Whenever you don't get your way, you start throwing a fit like a 4 year-old when he or she breaks their favourite toy.You had your chances, I gave you way more chances than I should have.You used and abused those chances, so now i'm done with you.Since Vast Space is pretty much discontinued for the time being, i'm not really putting aside my personal feelings.However if we ever do open again which is highly doubtful, I don't know if i'll let you back on anyway, considering you were banned when we were last open and i'd rather keep it that way.So, with all good riddance, stay the fuck away. I don't care how sorry 
 you are.Go away for a few years. Heck, get off of your computer. Go and get out there in the real world, and find out how fast you can get your ass handed to you after you talk shit.Okay? I don't want to see 1 more post about this.Moderators, i'm sorry if this is coming off as rude, but frankly when you put up with someone's bullshit for a long long time, especially 3 years and nothing changes, there's a point where you just gotta stop being nice.This thread is probably best deleted, but yeah.-Dgleks-Dglexsoft

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=211850#p211850




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Re: What Was the First AudioGame you Ever played?

2015-03-28 Thread AudioGames . net ForumGeneral Game Discussion : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What Was the First AudioGame you Ever played?

I'm pretty sure the very first audiogame I ever played was Super Liam, back in 2010 or 2011.From then, I slowly browsed more L-Works games and got into games like Super Egg Hunt, The Great Toy Robery, and stuff like that.

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