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Kind of a tangent here, but as far as Im aware, its actually not legal for a cab driver here in the states to either carry or give you back change. So no, we dont trust cab drivers when they give us back change, haha. Apparently theres underlying trust
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fastfinge wrote:Unfortunately, from what I can see, all the community wants is for anyone who disagrees with them to shut up and die.Perhaps a bit exaggerated, but as far as opinions go, true. But this is also true for any disagreement. If wed agree with
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I dunno, really.Basically, Valves statement is completely believable, and completely supportable. I do consider myself privacy sensitive, but this is what you get for DRM. I mean, you know that iTunes is quite eager to phone home too, yes?We should, I
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@drg: Just because a game is on Xbox, doesnt mean it was written by Microsoft. Try again. And I have never heard of Shank, but spending 3 seconds searching Google says that the game is by a company called Klei Entertainment. Once again, you are wrong!
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@drg: Just because a game is on Xbox, doesnt mean it was written by Microsoft. Try again. And I have never heard of Shank, but spending 3 seconds searching Google says that the game is by a company called Klei Entertainment. Once again, you are wrong!
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Hi,fastfinge wrote:Thats why if I ever feel compelled to play a mainstream game, I use a console; PC gaming is just too filled up with spyware and awful DRM and terrible activation systems and worse.An interesting observation here. You seem to have the
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Hi,@fastfinge: Electronic arts are the publishers of shank 2, which was developed by clay entertainment. Microsoft are the publishers of Lococycle, developed by twisted pixel games. Thus, these companies do use steam. The developers are the ones who just,
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@robjoy: The key difference is that I dont do my banking, check medical information, input my social security number, or do anything else all that private on my cell phone or game console. I do all of the above on my computer, hence not wanting a company
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@robjoy: The key difference is that I dont do my banking, check medical information, input my social security number, or do anything else all that private on my cell phone or game console. I do all of the above on my computer, hence not wanting a company
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fastfinge wrote: That assumes you trust the CEO.I dont need to untrust or trust some head developer whos company dominates the gaming community. and no im not talking about audio game community, im talking about the actual video gaming sceen.If i wanted to
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fastfinge wrote:@robjoy: The key difference is that I dont do my banking, check medical information, input my social security number, or do anything else all that private on my cell phone or game console. I do all of the above on my computer, hence not
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@robjoy: This *is* a topic about one of my several reasons for disliking Valve. Unfortunately, from what I can see, all the community wants is for anyone who disagrees with them to shut up and die. If you are accusing me of trolling, and you are, then you
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Fastfinge, would you object to me closing or deleting this topic? Maybe ill give it some time, but clearly, this difference of oppinion between you and the other forum members isnt going anywhere. This topic is simply going back and forward, with no real
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fastfingeIf you dont like valve or steem, then go and install origin from EA! Or atleast I think its from EA. But from what ive heard, origin sells games at higher prices. And a lot of them arent playable like battlefield 4, sims and tumbrader.So if you
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Bradp... thats not entirely true. While games may be coded and developed using acomputer, console games are designed specifically with a console in mind. As an example... many fighting games, rpgs, and such. Many of these games dont even see a pc port... so
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true. But they originally start on PCS and then are obtimized for consoles. Even when they dont have a pc port, they still are developed using a pc. But i used to think that consoles were better then pcs and they still are in terms of getting things to work
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Yeah, well just have to have differing opinions on it. That would be like comparing apples and oranges... because the game itself is never on the pc, only the coding process and the information for the game itself. Console games dont usually run on a pc...
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I was going to ask when it checked the history, but then I found this counter article:http://www.playerattack.com/news/2014/0 … an-claims/URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=166109#p166109
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Re: Another Reason Not To Trust Valve
Well, bring as many as reasons you want, but let me inform you that 70% and counting developpers are trusting valve, because of the GameServers and many features it can provide to the gamers. plus, it will disallow pirates to crack the online servers.There
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@hadi.gsf: That assumes you trust the CEO. I see no reason to do that. And the idea that 99 percent of games are on steam is just not true. Microsoft? Sony? Electronic Arts? Nintendo? Good Old Games? Humble Bundle? Zinga? And those are just so-called
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@fastfinge youre completely wrong.. Microsoft publishes games on steam(look at lococycle), a game published this month that can be quite playable byus. Its on steam and x360 and its published by Microsoft. Electronic arts? they certainly use steam as well,
Another Reason Not To Trust Valve
For those of you who arent put off by Valves lack of interest in accessibility, here is yet another good reason not to trust them:Valve is looking at your browsing history right now, if a recent report is to be believed. It seems that the companys Valve Anti
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Troll topic. Nothing to see here, move along folks.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=166011#p166011
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You will find articles countering this as well. Like the one from herehttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2098649/spam.htmlURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=166013#p166013
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Game companies are not infalible. Just because they make what some consider to be cool games does not mean theyre a cool company. If they are indeed looking through your DNS cache to see if you tweet, that is a little crazy and thats a lot of information to
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Game companies are not infalible. Just because they make what some consider to be cool games does not mean theyre a cool company. If they are indeed looking through your DNS cache to see if you tweet, that is a little crazy and thats a lot of information to
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@arqmeister: that article doesnt actually counter anything. It just reports what Valve says they are doing, and believing that rather requires that you trust valve. I mean, if you read the reddit AMA, he *does* admit to collecting your DNS history.
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To be fair, the article did say the system isnt active anymore, it was a two week test. And if they had warned people they were going to use it, it would have given the cheaters a chance to fortify. Having said all that, I still think its crap. In the end
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To be fair, the article did say the system isnt active anymore, it was a two week test. And if they had warned people they were going to use it, it would have given the cheaters a chance to fortify. Having said all that, I still think its crap. In the end
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@bladestorm360: The problem with believing that it was only a test is that the people who detected the code doing this havent confirmed it. I suspect that Valve got caught, so the next steam update will remove this function. But as of right now, everything
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I dont have it installed either and dont plan to at this point, unless something comes out that really catches my interest. But now that I think about it, I would also point out to any arguers that the valve representative admitted to scooping your entire
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I dont have it installed either and dont plan to at this point, unless something comes out that really catches my interest. But now that I think about it, I would also point out to any arguers that the valve representative admitted to scooping your entire
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I dont have it installed either and dont plan to at this point, unless something comes out that really catches my interest. But now that I think about it, I would also point out to any arguers that the valve representative admitted to scooping your entire
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@arqmeister: that article doesnt actually counter anything. It just reports what Valve says they are doing, and believing that rather requires that you trust valve. I mean, if you read the reddit AMA, he *does* admit to collecting your DNS history.
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Im not wanting to get to deep in this because, to be blunt, i dont care what people see and what they dont. Im a very open minded person who could give a crap if the government knows my spam watching habets. While that may sound extreme, my point is, what
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@arqmeister: I think trusting my bank with my personal information is rather different than trusting a gaming company with my personal information. What my bank is allowed to do with that information is, at least in Canada, tightly regulated. Banks also
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Arq, I can kind of see where youre coming from. However, you are wrong about the government being able to obtain generalized personal information if you use a high enough encryption method. Sure, they could probably get any information they wanted if they
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Arq, I can kind of see where youre coming from. However, you are wrong about the government being able to obtain generalized personal information if you use a high enough encryption method. Sure, they could probably get any information they wanted if they
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Arq, I can kind of see where youre coming from. However, you are wrong about the government being able to obtain generalized personal information if you use a high enough encryption method. Sure, they could probably get any information they wanted if they
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Arq, I can kind of see where youre coming from. However, you are wrong about the government being able to obtain generalized personal information if you use a high enough encryption method. Sure, they could probably get any information they wanted if they
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Arq, I can kind of see where youre coming from. However, you are wrong about the government being able to obtain generalized personal information if you use a high enough encryption method. Sure, they could probably get any information they wanted if they
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I wouldnt say we know exactly, what facebook and google are doing with our personal information, but we at least know more than what valve is doing with our DNS cache information. They could sell it to marketers for ad campaigns if they wanted.Arq, there
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@bladestorm360: Yes, I was simplifying a little, to avoid an off-topic political minefield. Thats why I said you could argue that I, personally, dont argue that, but for the purposes of this discussion, Im willing to accept that argument. And I do
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Lol, love that last point fastfinge. The road to hell indeed. My point was a bit exagerated. Of course i would want the option to opt out of a company gathering information on me. I feel though, to be truly incripted and protected, you would probably have
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Seriously, everything what is here sounds like: dont touch steamthat is, nothing less, nothing more lol, its so fun reading posts from You Fastfinge, where its nothing personal, its echoing in my ears: dont install steamno matter what someone will say, its
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Hi,Im not surprised that they collect data. Almost every mainstream company does, its the internet. Ive got adblock plus which should block most advertising campaigns and if I see an ad I just ignore it.As to dns information and such, websites embed so many
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Hi,Im not surprised that they collect data. Almost every mainstream company does, its the internet. Ive got adblock plus which should block most advertising campaigns and if I see an ad I just ignore it.As to dns information and such, websites embed so many
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@aaron: Good point. So if it wouldnt work as an anti-cheat system, why on earth are Valve collecting it, as they have now admitted that they were?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=166052#p166052
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They at least claim that 570 accounts were banned using this system due to cheating, so if thats to be believed, it accomplished something. But I still think compromising the somewhat personal data of millions of other gamers for 570 cheaters, whatever they
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