Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Where can I get a link to this? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=332575#p332575 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy perhaps jake can fix the japanese errors? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244092#p244092 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy As for japanese not reading, there is a special symbols dictionary on Jeff's nvda addon sight. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244114#p244114 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy To get rid of the spelling cap thing, go into nvda menu/preferences/dictionaries/voice dictionary and remove the weird regular _expression_ thing, I think it's the one right before the one that replaces mr with mister. I removed that myself, because it was making it spell item descriptions in Alter aeon like absorb_magic as A B S O R B M A G I C which I didn't want to hear. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244100#p244100 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy with ultimate eloquence how do i make it so when it sees words in all caps it reads them rather than spelling them? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244091#p244091 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy with the caps thing, you also have to remove the two ones above the one above mister. It takes three. THe last one for complete splitting, and the other two for eh and eye which it would say wrong otherwise. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244156#p244156 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I did not add those. THe pauses, the japanese errors, and the sliders are jakes. I built this off his addon. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244042#p244042 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I just got the updated version of this addon and it's pretty good. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243854#p243854 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy the ultra eloquence is great! thanks! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243880#p243880 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy wish we could have a free sapi5 eloquence created by someone. i hate deactivating whenever i want to buy a new laptop. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243887#p243887 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy there is also a vocalizer cracked addon already out there on torrents. get it and all vocalizer voices are free for NVDA. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243890#p243890 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy if such a crowd funding campaign ever happened I would donate $100 united states dollars. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243885#p243885 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy the codefactory eloquence vocalizer addon also requires you to be connected to the internet at all times for at least once every 30 days so it can phone home to validate its license. stupid. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243879#p243879 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy when i switch to japanese with ultra eloquence it does not read japanese text but sapi5 eloquence does. could this be fixed in ultra? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243881#p243881 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy sure wish we could have keynote gold even if we had to rip it out of a braillenote and pass it through speechHub somehow. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243892#p243892 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy there is nothing wrong with capitalism, but charging such very very high prices for something 15 years old or older is rediculous! today its worth $5 for all languages maybe $10 $20 at most. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243883#p243883 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy and what ever happened to keynote gold speech by berkeley then l bought it? wish we could have that one somehow also. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243882#p243882 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy again nothing wrong with capitalism but nuance are just greedy money-hungry bad capitalists who rip off disabled people all the time. furthermore they restrict us severely by their stupid internet activation methods. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243884#p243884 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Hi, i got the new ultra eloquence, and it's great, except the pauses for punctuation like periods and commas is longer which I disliked. I used the older eloquence driver but kept the dictionary. I will, however, kind of miss the sliders for headsize and breathiness you added, but that's all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243938#p243938 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy ultraeloquence has been updated majorly! Grab your copy right here! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243811#p243811 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy only problem is, I'll have to add tons of entries such as fixing III to be roman 3 instead of saying I I I.And I'll have to edit the dictionary file manually for that, because it will have to be above the capitol splitter.Can anybody think of a word it can't say and how it should be said?You can provide me how it should be said in dectalk phonemes, eloquence phonemes, or just spelling it out though emphasis and stress may get a little screwy when you spell it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=240134#p240134 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Well, technically there have been new voices from Ivona coming out, but only for Amazon. Case and point being the voice used in the amazon echo, which is available nowhere else. On that note the Android app has been pulled, but you can download any ivona voice you want if you have one of the kindles. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=240118#p240118 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Maybe the echo voice is available in the ivona cloud? Been trying to test that, that could actually be used to make some prerecorded tts lines as mp3 for people who don't have good voices, but it seems to be strictly for business. I could always put dumby values in, like set the business address as my own house and stuff, but I'm not sure how legal that is. Shouldn't really be a problem, after all, it's free as long as you stick to the free plan limitations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=240124#p240124 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Maybe the echo voice is available in the ivona cloud? Been trying to test that, that could actually be used to make some prerecorded tts lines as mp3 for people who don't have good voices, but it seems to be strictly for business. I could always put dumby values in, like set the business address as my own house and stuff, but I'm not sure how legal that is. Shouldn't really be a problem, after all, it's free as long as you stick to the free plan limitations. But back on the topic of eloquence, I definitely think the uppercase spelling is definitely worth a major update to the driver. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=240124#p240124 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy okay, with some help from stack overflow, I got some regexps working to split all caps words. I've also added a few more entries to the pronunciation dictionary, such as Barack. Anybody want a release? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239948#p239948 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I say that's worth a major update right there. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239950#p239950 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Yes, it seems they do still sell sapi5 voices, as well as their cloud speech environment which it seems amazon echo is using. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239996#p239996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy What do you mean about Ivona? As far as I can tell, they still sell the SAPI 5 voices. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=239972#p239972 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Ahoy thereWhat I meant by Ivona closing shop is according to a e-mail I received from them they will no longer provide support for ivona reader and ivona voices. Support as in download links or keys.That basicly ends up as after the 31 of December they won't be selling or providing you with links to installers or such for the stuff that you've purchased or that you do purchase (I hope not), at least not after 31 December. :dThey might still carry on their business speech services such the speech cloud? but I have no clue.I don't think any new voices have actually come out after amazon acquired ivona,although I could just be having a brain fart.grryf URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=240046#p240046 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I'm afraid that the custom pronunciation dictionary within root.dic is created for US english, using it with british may generate strange pronunciations. The custom crash dictionary, you could probably just rename the file and make it work that way, if you're talking about speech dicts. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238483#p238483 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Thanks very much...I like the sinth plugin in any case.Great work.Thanks,Daniel URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238507#p238507 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I see. I don't want to try it, though. Because I have the one that is better than eloquence from cf . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238541#p238541 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Well, Socheat, if you like the native inflection change support in the eloquence addon, I'd say no, the cf eloquence is not better than the previous addons. Because you can't change that with the cf version. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238537#p238537 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Well, nowadays, I'm still using eloquence addons myself. It is works nice though, I don't know if eloquence of cf is better than the one that I'm using, but from what my point of view of the eloquence for android, the quality is really bad. And sometimes, the pronounciation is wrong. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238530#p238530 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Hi,Just started playing arround with you're custom eloquence, and I have to admit that I like it...One question: is there any way to get your custom dictionary working in british english?That's primarily what I use...Thanks,Daniel URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238368#p238368 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Eep!Now that, is, bad! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238195#p238195 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy So I have tried both the "official" and "unofficial" versions of Eloquence and I can tell you the "official" one has some slight problems that the unofficial one doesn't. Nothing that would be a showstopper mind you, but there's a few things to note.First, I don't know what kind of background processes the code factory Eloquence is running, but just like any kind of Vocaliser, I have seen it stutter and cut out when the computer is under load, like for example when just booting up. That's on a first generation core I5 at 3.4 GHZ. It also takes a very long time for NVDA to start at first when using it, probably due to the activation check. With the unofficial driver, it loads NVDA normally, and I've never seen it stutter. Yes, it does pause between speech chunks because NVDA isn't reacting fast enough, but the speech never broke up.I have also seen the pitch get stuck a few times after reading a capital letter , so you'd have to mess with it to get it back. You also can't change the voice as easily - the only speech setting you have is "voice" for the language, while if you want to change the variant (Reed, Shelly, etc), you have to launch their configuration app and change it there. The inflection setting is also missing completely. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238190#p238190 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Ivona folded, did they? Well, that would certainly explain a lot.But yes indeed, the principle issue with any activation scheme, or indeed any proprietary software, is that once the vendor buggers off into the sunset, there is no hope for the owner of the product.@Trenton: activation. The add-on--even when running portable--requires activation. Interesting and amusing: top hit for Google on "Eloquence NVDA" (for me, while signed out, anyway) is this NVDA ticket. LOL! Must do a lot to inspire confidence, that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238189#p238189 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Ivona folded, did they? Well, that would certainly explain a lot.But yes indeed, the principle issue with any activation scheme, or indeed any proprietary software, is that once the vendor buggers off into the sunset, there is no hope for the owner of the product.@Trenton: activation. The add-on--even when running portable--requires activation. Interesting and amusing: top hit for Google on "Eloquence NVDA" (for me, while signed out, anyway) is this NVDA ticket. LOL! Must do a lot to inspire confidence, that.And for another take on the real impact that TTS has on switching screen readers there is this very interesting paper.Finally, the comments alluding to a (somewhat lame, IMO, but still relevant) discussion about NVDA +Eloquence are referring to this here blog posting (Google cache).The only long-term solution is thus to move away from Eloquence. But where? NV Speech Player is merely a prototype, but we could do worse than to endorse its continued development. It will be FLOSS, and as we know, that is the only way ahead. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238189#p238189 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy because I, being me, did not know how to spell his name. Next update will come with that. I might as well fix capitolization bugs with a regexp in the next release with eloquence american english. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238228#p238228 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Ii just downloaded the ultra eloquence file that coltan made. And I find it od that its pronunciation dictionary has a correction for obama, but not for barack. Just wanted to throw that out there URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238221#p238221 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy because I, being me, did not know how to spell his name. Next update will come with that. I might as well fix capitolization bugs with a regexp in the next release with eloquence american english. Also, as I am who I am, you will probably notice that things such as fuckfuckfuck, motherfucker, etc, are fixed. And yes I also fixed etc, and because I didn't know how to spell it, I use phonemes because I'm smart. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238228#p238228 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Just to remind you all that it isn't necessarily Code Factory's choice to make drm. I'm sure if they were given a chance to go drm free, they'd consider it. Nuance is forcing it on them, because Nuance want the frickin revenue. It's just that code factory has had experience with drm in the past , that's why they were so willing to jump on the bandwagon and use a commercial drm system. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238199#p238199 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Ivona folded, did they? Well, that would certainly explain a lot.But yes indeed, the principle issue with any activation scheme, or indeed any proprietary software, is that once the vendor buggers off into the sunset, there is no hope for the owner of the product.@Trenton: activation. The add-on--even when running portable--requires activation. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238189#p238189 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Ivona folded, did they? Well, that would certainly explain a lot.But yes indeed, the principle issue with any activation scheme, or indeed any proprietary software, is that once the vendor buggers off into the sunset, there is no hope for the owner of the product.@Trenton: activation. The add-on--even when running portable--requires activation. Interesting and amusing: top hit for Google on "Eloquence NVDA" (for me, while signed out, anyway) is this NVDA ticket. LOL! Must do a lot to inspire confidence, that.And for another take on the real impact that TTS has on switching screen readers there is this very interesting paper.Finally, the comments alluding to a (somewhat lame, IMO, but still relevant) discussion about NVDA +Eloquence are referring to this here blog posting.The only long-term solution is thus to move away from Eloquence. But where? NV Speech Player is merely a prototype, but we could do worse than to endorse its continued development. It will be FLOSS, and as we know, that is the only way ahead. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238189#p238189 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy do any of you know how I could possibly compile a regexp in a loop fassion? I want to make it so if a word is all caps, that it will spell it out by putting spaces between all the letters within the dictionary. But I just can't manage to figure that out, I only managed to do it to the first part of the word, where all caps car, was supposed to be C A R, I got C AR, which is capitol A R together, it didn't split it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238275#p238275 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Actualy, here's the eloquence update nvda addon I made to datajakes, follow the instructions in the readme inside the zip.https://www.dropbox.com/s/1g8k185arubii … e.zip?dl=1 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238111#p238111 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Hi there,I personally don't care if the Eloquence add-on I use with NVDA is legal or illegal. After all, it is an add-on, and it is not an application specifically built to be compatible with sappy 5. Moreover sappy 5 voices work slowly. You will need to wait "Half a second" to hear the voice after you press up or down arrow. While eloquence-addon works really fast and it comes close to eSpeak regarding spead. So install eloquence add-on and your life will be gravy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238096#p238096 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I use the eloquence addon myself, a version I made modifications to datajake's. This one can pronounce much more things and it also comes with a voice dictionary that patches all crashwords in existance. If you want me to give you guys a link to my version, let me know. Other wise you can get the default without the modifications from grossgang's synths for NVDA section. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238102#p238102 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy RantThe attitude you people have about software piracy and not caring if your software is legal or not, is in part, in my opinion, one of the reasons the audio game market is in such a sad state. Honestly, would you be willing to market a product you've sent a lot of time and effort on if you knew that most people would just steal it from you?End of rant. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238107#p238107 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Hello all,Given that it hasn't been updated for 10+ years, and that it still has lots of quite annoying bugs that will ever be fixed, Eloquence should be almost free of charge.I'm going even further, it should have become open source.Clearly, Nuance don't deserve earning money for Eloquence. They don't maintain it. They continue obtaining money for it but it doesn't cost anything to them. They bough it to IBM just to make sure it can no longer be a competitor to their other voices, without any wish to develop it further. They are just capitalist idiots.Frankly, in this situation, I don't mind pirating.It could be very different if they kept it in active development. If I know that I can receive support, that bugs and security issues will eventually be fixed, and that the product will continue improving, I don't have any problem paying for software. But here there is no hope. They just wait for it to die.When you decide to stop support for your product, you should be courageous enough to leave it to users, open source if possible or at least as freeware, and no longer expect earning money for it. Otherwise, sorry, but it's dishonnest. IF you want to earn money, you must work for it, period.I would well suggest something to save Eloquence, but it will anyway never work: make a mass petition, collect enough money via crowdfounding and convince Nuance to sel it to us. Probability of success ? <0%, even if we would collect a million.Because they are stupid f## capitalists and what they want is profit, not the satistaction of anyoneNote, if one day someone starts an action like this, I would be ready to give 50€ to help achieving it. However, sorry, no, I don't agree to pay 50€ for something no longer maintained, full of bugs crash words that obviously won't be ever fixed, and that virtually restrict me in doing what I want with it (portable installation). And no, I won't pick any other alternative, because they are slower, less clearly understandable, and just because I'm used to Eloquence and I don't see why I would change.By the way, given that you have less issues with the pirated version than the legally bought one, and that the pirated version is much easier to install, they shouldn't be surprised if their software is cracked (Hi FS, this remark is also for you)This is a reality: the more constraining piracy protection you put in your software, the more piracy will be attempted. But sadly, nobody is ready to accept it as a fact. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238134#p238134 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I agree as far as I don't care of its pirated or not, just like everyone else said, there are still issues with it. So you don't get money from me unless the thing is in active development, or at least active support. God, I could go on for hours how we're getting raked over the coal for these damn voices, anyway, I'll leave it to, I don't care, and yeah. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238143#p238143 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy @Aminiel:Unfortunately, I can only upvote your post one time.I am in total agreement with this. What the hell is wrong with just Open-Sourcing it? Oh, that's right, some idiot customer bought at a very high price and now the rest of us have to suffer because capitalism. Market differentiation. Blah blah. End result: the people get screwed, now and in the future.I resent paying, but I can't avoid paying either. So I'll pay, then enjoy all the fruits of the pirated product. God, it's sad. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238152#p238152 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy counter rant!I'm not going to pay money for a synth that isn't really being developed, and has to phone home every month to stay activated. I got burned with this crap on android, never again. Why does a speech synthesizer have to phone home and what happens when the home it insists on phoning doesn't exist anymore. There is literally no reason for this and it's just screwing paying customers over in the long term.End of counter rant URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238151#p238151 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
2015-11-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Trenton Goldshark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy For those who want the "official" NVDA Eloquence/Vocalizer Add-On, grab it here:http://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/Yes folks its both, not just one or the other.Side Note:The price on their site is 59 EUR, which translates to 63 USD.Also, do be aware, its Windows Vista and later.So, for yall people on XP... Well... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238057#p238057 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
2015-11-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Trenton Goldshark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy For those who want the "official" NVDA Eloquence/Vocalizer Add-On, grab it here:http://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/Yes folks its both, not just one or the other.Side Note:The price on their site is 59 EUR, which translates to 63 USD.Also, do be aware, its Windows Vista and later. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238057#p238057 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Well GeneWarner, while I am in 100% total agreement with your post about piracy, I'm just gonna break it out, this is a special case. Here's the scoop with Nuance, the history of synths it acquired, and nvda and eloquence. This also goes out to everyone here, because it's important to know the gist, what's legal and not about using eloquence in nvda for free. I can see some of you are picking sides while some are may be confused, don't blame you. This is still a contravercial issue with a lot of unstraightened out and confusing bits and pieces so I'll explain as best I can, based on what I know and what has been said. With so much "Eloquence for Nvda is illegal, period," and, "Oh, eloquence is not really illegal, but," floating around, I feel it's important to set the record straight here. Well, two sides to this coin. On the legal side, you may wonder. What goes into the prices of our screen readers? The reason you are able t o use eloquence in, say, jaws, Window Eyes, System Access, openbook etc is because the copyright and license notice is in the license agreement for those respective products, such as "This product uses the eti eloquence tts system that contains...bla bla bla" you get the idea. By agreeing to the license you are basically accepting the agreement to that product and all of it's components, including but not limited to the product's own trademarks as well as third-party trademarks mentioned herein. Part of the (ridiculously high) price for jaws goes to Nuance, let's say about $90-to-$200 goes to nuance, for both eloquence and vocalizer. That, is why the synth (s) is bundled with various expensive applications, in deed for those who may remember the primary reason Robert Betz's gamesfortheblind.com games were $20 is because they were bundled with the eloquence speech synthesizer, if it wasn't for that they'd probably be either dirt cheep or comple tely free as he would've loved them to be. Lots and lots of royalties go to Nuance. Nvda, on the other hand, is a free product. While by using eloquence you are technically not bound to an agreement, remember that the eloquence synthesizer data for the driver was stripped out of a copy of jaws, which in turn was covered by a license agreement. So the user who stripped eloquence out of jaws is, (by some loose legal definition) in violation of the license agreement, and any users who are using eloquence, well they are and they're not violating anything. On one hand, Nuance does not allow eloquence to be used in a nonauthorized means, on the other hand nvda users that just use eloquence never actually signed into any agreement whatsoever, especially future generations of screen reader users who may only know of the existance of nvda. It's just yet another case of Nuance being a money-hogging, competition-devouring, organization-acquiring fatcat. Ok, so here's the de al with Eloquence. Eti eloquence was originally owned and maintained by Eloquent Technologies, incorperated, with IBM licensed to base their Viavoice and viavoice outloud (fs) sapi4 speech synths off of eloquence in their ibm voavoice, with the last company to sell that being Wizard Software. Then Eloquent Technologies were bought out by Nuance. Vocalizer, formerly realspeak, is! made by Nuance, but the original voices were property of Scansoft before Nuance squelched Scansoft. Learnout and Houspy, who as you may know made the truevoice synthesizer as well as the Michael and Michelle voices that shipped with Microsoft Office2003 and Microsoft Reader, were later devoured by Nuance and their former speech recognition technology is now a property of Nuance, although Nuance used nothing from the text to speech side. Loquendo, who made the first voices that could actually cry and laugh and do all kinds of things via a special program but had lots of _expression_ in their sapi varients, liv ed on strong for 13 years before, guess what? Ding ding ding, that's right, Nuance busted their chops! Long story short, for those of y'all who know your American history, easily compare Nuance as the "Standard Oil Trust" of modern time. I'd hate to see the day, but I can sense it coming, a day when Nuance makes a monopoly outa the entire text to speech industry. Here's another point. As the blog post said, Nv access tried to negotiate a price for nvda users to buy eloquence, but the prices Nuance was offering were inconvenient at best, both for the users and the nvda developers. In addition, Nuance's information to the devs was rather short, ending on no replies from Nuance. Nevertheless, it was easy for them to conclude that they may sell licenses for eloquence on the condition there is strong and sufficient drm copy protection for licensing. First of all, if copy protection were to be implemented, even with the help of commercial drm systems, yo u know better than probably Nuance themselves t
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy ahoy allAminiel wrote:By the way, given that you have less issues with the pirated version than the legally bought one, and that the pirated version is much easier to install, they shouldn't be surprised if their software is cracked (Hi FS, this remark is also for you)This is a reality: the more constraining piracy protection you put in your software, the more piracy will be attempted. But sadly, nobody is ready to accept it as a fact.+1as for Would I pay for the eloquence vocalizer addon? At least I wouldn't. A free alternative already exists that being the nvda eloquence addon and I myself am quite happy with it. even if there were no nvda eloquence addon I still would not buy it from CF as it stands now. I think Exodus put it right what happens when the home it insists on phoning doesn't exist anymoreThe prices at which these things are sold at are a bit too much for me, but still now and then if I like the product enough I end up buying them I.E ivona voices, but I certainly wouldn't buy a product no matter how good it was if it insisted on my device being connected to the internet even though its once in a month. what happens if the company that' sold you the product decides to close up?(like ivona) the money gos down the drain. For some that might not be that much of a issue,but for me it certainly is. It is a good thing that for the ivona voices and reader all you need to do is have a key and setup to register and it doesn't have to call home every 30 days to stay active,either.Is a crack for ivona voices available? I.E can they be pirated? you bet they can be. Will more people end up buying ivona than a product with stupid registration and activation? I at least would be one of them.To companys like CF who put in such a system for activation all I have to say is this.People who pirate will pirate you can't do nothing about that, some can't pay so they wouldn't be your potential customers anyway,some would rather not and just look for a pirated version or just do without again not the type of people that'd buy your product, aye some would have bought that product but sinse a pirated version is available they would do without buying. In this you lose sales, true but if you have a terrible registration method many people that would've actually bought your product would rather not buy it and deal with a system that's to put it lightly a pain in the arse. grryf URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238175#p238175 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy
2015-11-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Trenton Goldshark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Now, bringing this back to the future, since it seems folks missed my original posting of it, here's link to the newer NVDA Eloquence/Vocalizer Add On:http://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/As I wonder, how many folks wil pay? Even if NVDA is donated %10 of the price? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238163#p238163 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy I guess I won't be, sense it ain't gonna work on windows xp. But that would be something to suggest to code factory. Eloquence sapi worked on windows xp. Nevertheless, the strong drm is a bit intrusive, of course. I can't wait for nuance to get a review on the Defective by Design website. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238164#p238164 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Ahoy allThe eloquence addon brad is talking about works well,most of the times, anyway. I don't have any clue what whent wrong when I last installed it but it wouldn't work, and then I had to get a addon that actually worked from someone on this forum. That addon was developed as far as I know because nuance weren't willing to allow nvda developers or what you will to license it or some such bullshit I believe the nvda blog has a post about it too.Codefactory has 2 eloquence. one is a vocalizer plus eloquence addon for nvda and the other is sapi5 which doesn't meet your needs at all,of courseThe sapi eloquence from what I've read in the faq needs your pc to be connected to the internet for you to use it,else the license expires in 30 days. seriously? first I pay for the product and then I have to keep the dam pc connected to the internet to use that product? great job, codefactoryThe point of all that rant is, I ha ve no clue on how the vocalizer plus eloquence addon from code factory works but it might/ could have the same verification limitationsSo your best option would be to use the ETI eloquence addon that brad was talking about as long as you end up getting the version that works and isn't broken, like I did. :dhth URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238023#p238023 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Sigh. So not legal. I thought as much. Thanks guys. I shall experiment with whatever I find on this sacrificial Windows installation. And since a SAPI Eloquence will be useful to me, that's the one I'll grab by way of, er, consideration.Yes the CodeFactory stuff is what I was alluding to earlier; even the portable version requires fecking activation. Of course, as they are keen to point out, that's not really a problem because the computer ID is the same, so just go back to it and deregister. FFS!I agree: eSpeak is the killer. I mean, I'm glad it exists, and I'm not going to persecute NVDA for the lack of Eloquence, but equally, for Eloquence not to be freely available at this late stage smacks of greed by Nuance, plain and simple. Especially when it's fairly clear Nuance aren't actually developing the codebase of Eloquence any more. If it were the official synth of NVDA, I imagine the game would be very different, even among advanced users who know better. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238025#p238025 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy You can get sapi4 eloquence from http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/ET … 0sapi4.exeThe eloquence dll files and such clame to be by speechworks international, inc. I think it is rediculess that nuance is complaining about a product that hasn't been in development since 2002. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238028#p238028 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Yeah. Nuance just buys up assets and then either incorporates them into their portfolio or completely abandons them. In the latter case, everybody loses. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238041#p238041 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy If I recall and understand it properly, there isn't any approved (legal) way to get eloquence into NVDA. I believe I remember hearing that Nuance change their licensing of Eloquence, the result was that it became no longer possible to use it with NVDA legally unless you go through SAPI and those licenses require activation.With that being said, try searching the forum for Eloquence, the was a thread a while back that had a download of Eloquence for NVDA in it. As I recall it could be used with both the installed and portable versions.I used to have it, but when I learned that to use Eloquence with NVDA, you had to pirate it, I removed it and NVDA from my system. I removed NVDA because I won't use it without Eloquence, it's the most understandable TTS voice I've encountered, and I prefer it above all others. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237995#p237995 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Hey guys,In coming back to Windows for a bit I am utterly astonished by the absurdity in the TTS market, and especially that resulting from the private arrangements between SR vendors and TTS companies, and--on the other hand--by SAPI synthesisers that require activation.What, precisely, is the right way to get Eloquence in NVDA on a portable installation. There has to be a simple answer which:doesn't require SAPIdoesn't require f***ing activationis guaranteed to operate with the latest version of NVDA at all timesI don't mind stepping on somebody's toes or walking the broad path of evil. If you know of a way, please tell me about it. I'll pay whatever fees are necessary to acquire the license for Eloquence--I have no intention whatever of depriving the licenser his little nugget of gold--but I'm utterly dismayed that there doesn't seem to be a simple way to purch ase Eloquence for use on any computer you use for a portable NVDA installation with an existing NVDA driver. So any suggestions are welcome. Any at all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237988#p237988 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Hello;I use eliquence with NVDA.If you type in Eliquence NVDA addon in to google; you'll find it.It might not be legal but I honestly don't care.Speech symths are getting worse in some cases and better in others. Apples Siri male English and Australian voices are good, while I find other "real sounding" voices to lack inflection. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237998#p237998 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Best Approved Portable Eloquence-NVDA Strategy Isn't there a code factory eloquence and vocalizer combined nvda addon somewhere? Let me see. I don't know how much luck people have with this, simply because I'm using windows xp and not 7, but anyway here is the trial.http://codefactoryglobal.com/downloads/ … nvda-addon URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=238002#p238002 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
