Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Yes. For example, there is absolutely no way Addictive Drums would be as accessible/eficient as it is now without the NKS standard. If you approach music and audio with an instant grat mindset you will be lost/stuck, there is no two-ways about that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569490/#p569490 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Agreed with 22. It's kind of like the difference between playing a song and playing music. A lot of kids will come up to me and ask me hey, can you teach me to play "insert name of song I think is cool here" on guitar? I'm like, more than likely, I can. I can teach you how to play the melody. I can teach you how to play the chords associated with it. I can probably teach you how to combine those if you have the patience. But that's a longshot from learning music. I reiterate what I've said elsewhere, learning to play a song is not the same as learning to play music, but if you learn to play music you'll be able to play a song.I do not believe NI made their pproduct with the new musician in mind. In fact, if you're just getting started with music, I personally, wouldn't recommend it. I'd say that you should keep it super super simple, because the more you get, the more you're going to be distracted by. When you have experience under your belt, that's a wonderful thing because you can turn those distractions into projects; tons and tons of projects! I can lay down a track nowadays that has nothing to do with what I was originally working on just so I can keep the idea on my PC and so I don't forget it entirely, so that I can come back to it later. As a beginner though? You don't want that!So what do I suggest? That'll depend on a few things ranging from your age to your tastes in music, from your willingness to learn to how much time you personally have in your daily schedule. Anyone interested in music would benefit from having a cheap but good sounding upright piano in their house, but if you're not into keys that'll be absolutely useless to you. so what are you now and what do you want to be? How do you want to get there and what are you willing to sacrifice to do it? I started out with a crappy keyboard someone bought as an afterthought when I was 2 years old. when I hit the grand I was six, and then I discovered something super bad... I had no real strength in my fingers. That meant I had to take time off electric keyboards and start really, really working on grands, uprights and acoustic models in general. Fast forward; I'm 11. I picked up the guitar for the first time. OH dear! This hurts! And my left hand, it really sucks! Lets put the keys on the back burner for awhile. A year later, violins and cellos. OW! Hey! It's blistering! And why do I have to deal with this proper bow technique again? That hurts my shoulder!The point is? Music can hurt on all levels! It's not for everyone, just as coding is not for everyone, just as cooking is not for everyone, just as athletics are not for everyone! The real shortcuts come along when you apply yourself to something for a very long time and then, because of your understanding of that something, you discover there is a quicker and easier way to get it done! That's what KK is really all about! If you listen to people who have recently acquired it and who had already been doing music for awhile without it, the reason you'll hear them praise it is because of what it allows them to do now that they were probably able to do before, but now they can get it done faster! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569469/#p569469 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone And that right there is the problem. That balance is so hard to reach. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569468/#p569468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Usability is also demographic based. For example, you wouldn't expect someone to be doing a Daw who can't tell a listbox from a slider. DAW's are not computer-newbie-friendly in their very nature (if there were, there wouldn't be a market for professional training on anything other than technique and plugin usage). So there has to be a balance somewhere. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569450/#p569450 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Jack,True point, though usability, should, in theory, go hand in hand with accessibility. I agree with your general assumption, but that won't always be the case. Applications should be usable enough for anyone especially in those cases. Who knows? The fact that the interface was intuitive might compel them to thiment a little.Accesibility-related assumptions usually do more harm than good, unfortunately. In the broader sense, (straying from NI accessibility for a sec), if someone was told application A was accessible by the developers of said application, and recommended it to one of their clients only to find out that it was not accessible or usable. Assumptions like this seem to be the root of the problem when it comes to intuitiveness and accessibility. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569416/#p569416 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone To my knowledge, the KOmplete Kontrol software isn't that much more accessible on Mac either - there are still Keyboard Maestro macros for it. Granted, there are those for Windows as well, but the audio settings and vst directories are still not accessible. It has gotten to the point though where a single five minute Aira call can probably do the job, given that Native Access is now completely accessible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569412/#p569412 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Granted, I do not believe the KK software itself is accessible windows side either, so there's that. At least Mac users have that luxury. The rest, however, as best I can tell, from downloading and installing instruments to integrating them well with reaper? Perfectly doable. I just spent like, an hour with damage and all of its goodies. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569411/#p569411 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Mich: You're actually only partially correct on that.accessibility=labeled controls and elements one way or anotherUsability is what you're describin, will it work for people regardless of their technological experience. There's a pretty significant difference.If Native Access required OCR, then no it wouldn't be very accessible. But as it stands, it doesn't.This really boils down to people who can use it not knowing their screen-readers well, and who can blame them for being spoiled by simplicity yet crippled by systems that give us the cold shoulder for even daring to experiment and get their hands dirty (IOS, here's looking at you).It should actually be pretty generally assumed that those who are actually going into audio production know their system well, because if you're trying to learn a daw and your plugins, the last thing you'll want to be doing is also learning general screen-reader concepts at the same time as that can be quite distracting. And it's really not that hard. If you're going to plan on donating a large sum to NV Access, then buy the training modules. all the money still goes to them for further developments, and you get valuable material to boot, so it's a win-win. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569382/#p569382 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @12 That's really cool.I don't agree we should just take what we're given and be grateful. Not when they're still pushing how they're so in on accessibility. Not when half this shit isn't all that hard to implement.Object nav is fine but it's not user friendly. I can get around the window well enough with it though, so it's not an issue for me, but it really should be fixed properly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569330/#p569330 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Jack:I agree with you on your main poinarst regarding the state of Native Access. For me, on MacOS, it's completely accessible to use.However, I believe teven though it can be accessible on Windows, it isn't truly accessible if it's not easily usable. I understand that the object navigation exist, and that's a valid way of accessibly getting around, but that still doesn'tmean it's accessible. For an app to be accessible, in my opinion, an app needs to be able to be used by all levels of technological prowess. If you have someone who wanted a Windows PC for music production, and had just started learning, and nly knew ,b the tabbing method, they could easily come to the conclusion that it's not accessible for them. Coming from that point of view, it's not, and that's the main point I'm trying to stress here. We can't assume how technologically savvy any person is when approaching a new application they have no familiarity with. That's why it's helpful to have the app accessible via tabbing and object navigation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569325/#p569325 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Thank you, Jack, and much agreed. Yes, there is stuff left to be desired. I love Action strikes, but at present, I've a sneaking suspicion I haven't been able to access all of it. Thrill is another clasic example of something sighted people can do a lot with but which blind/VI people are limited by to some extent.And I'm sure there are others I just can't think of because I haven't used the whole of my collector's edition lib yet. Actually, I'm a little angry at present because I grabbed 12 just before 13 came out; story of my life.But to have this much control over it is more than I could say if I had spent say, 4k on a Yamaha Montage, which I so badly wanted to do. In comparison, I've spent like, half of that on NI stuff and got better sound out of it and more customization that I was able to put forth all on my own, without any sighted assistance and no outside help other than what I read online and by watching youtube vids.But I do sympathize with Ironcross and others in the sense that, yes, I do believe accessibility is far enough along now that it should be considered a right, not a privillege. The problem is that we're not all on equall footing when it comes to accessibility. As Jack kindly pointed out in 14, some of us don't have any isues with switching screen readers to see if things are a little mor easily done by doing so, or using object nav/OCR, or any other combination of things available to us. So maybe the problem is that there are at least two factions when it comes to accessibility and until you unite the two you won't get it really, truly integrated into things. I don't care much for tabulated windows, for instance. Tab tab tab tab away if that's your cup of tea, but I'd rather memorize shortcut keys to get things done. Some people would prefer things organized/arranged in lists. Some really like their JAWS cursors and NVDa object nav and such. We can argue back and forth about whether this is all based on personal preference or if one really is better than the other as far as accessibility goes, but if you're going to argue for the latter, you'd better have a super strong case on the why. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569297/#p569297 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @Ironcross32: Could the problem perhaps be that the blind music and audio folks are few and far between? And by that I mean people who are the real deal and know what they're talking about when it comes to this stuff, not just folks who just joined 5 minutes in. Realize that if you were there from the beginning, the back in my day argument is actually fully valid, because back in the day you truly did have nothing. Oh, you had scripts here and there, Cake Talking for Sonar, ReaAccess, but that only went to the extent of the daw itself, one had to count on plugins being accessible or there being scripts for them. Or, in most cases, have someone read the menus, someone who barely understands the totally un-newbie friendly interface the way the user behind the controls does. Does NI have work to do? ABsolutely! But have they made significant strides that, for now, we can be happy with? Most certainly!There has never been a true open standard for instruments and effects that builds in some degree of accessibility.Also, you're sadly mistaken on the state of Native Access. Absolutely no object navigation if you use narrator, and minimal object navigation if you use NVDA. Could not say the same back in 2019 as I needed Aira for the installation, but after I needed to do the Windows reinstall, I was easily able to get through Native Access without problem. I'm sorry, but object navigation features are meant to be used, not admired. Not every windows is going to be a tab-through, and you know what, for now, that's ok. Accessible vs useable definitely comes into play. It may not be fully accessible for every level of computer user, but it is definitely useable. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569182/#p569182 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone https://www.ericasynths.lv/https://fenestra.lv/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569180/#p569180 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Sorry for jumping directions a little, but there's at least one synth hardware company actually and really interested in us, thus making shit more accessible. That's none other, than Erica synths from Latvia, who make mostly eurorack modular stuff, but as well some standalone synths and drum machines and fx-boxes. At the moment their accessibility strives are geared towards eurorack and quite for a reason. About four years ago Girts Ozolins "hopefully spelled correct", the president of Erica synths visited Tartu, my home town and gave some kinda workshop basically showing off their modular shit. Me and my two blind bros went there and that probably changed the game. As the workshop was kinda freeform, everyone was free to talk and ask etc. Being a synth nerd that I happen to be, there was quite an amount of serious tech-talk between Girts and me, especially considering the fact, that at that point I knew about modular only in theory and had no hardware experience. To cut it short, this established not only a ferm connection between us and them, but also sparked their deep interest in blind synth nerdz. So now they are trying to pump up a project, where they and other modular makers would donate preconfigured systems to the blind synthesists anywhere, but at this very moment this thing is kinda slow to start and here's why: eurorack being a really hands-on, but quite dence and packed thing at the same time, doesn't really make those sighties of more regular and thus simpler thinking understand, that it's totally possible to learn all the jacks and knobs and there's really no need to see all the multi-colored leds on the modules.So what to take away from this is probably the fact that manufacturers don't really have that much direct experience with us and so they don't know and so they don't care about our ways.I will make another short post with links to the company and that project. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569179/#p569179 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone What of it there is for us is accessible, yes. But more than that is left untouched in the software. I'm glad for what we do have, but that's not to say that I think they shouldn't do more.I don't like the whole argument that goes something like, "Well back in my day, we had to use a sharp rock and a wax tablet." It's been 5 years now and virtually no progress from the outset when they rolled it out. Christ, Native access can still be made to crash 100% of the time. Come the hell on already. They can't even make that software accessible? That's downright ridiculous. In 5 years, we still have to use a combination of object nav and OCR to get shit installed. I just don't find that acceptable for a company that claims to embrace accessibility.I feel like I say this all the time, but accessibility is a god damn commitment that very very few organizations hold to. The last thing I want to do is come off entitled like I expect some sort of plan that these features will be rolled out in this time frame and it had better damn well be done or else. But there's got to be some compromise, and if not, then quit talking the talk cuz you aint' walking the walk.Sure, things not being done and forward progress being stymied does annoy and piss me off, but what really grinds my gears is how companies keep saying they embrace accessibility and inclusion and all that shit. Really then? What have you done in the past 5 years that has progressed your mission forward. No, porting shit that already exists doesn't count. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569167/#p569167 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @9 I don't think its totally a double standard. I mean I get what you're saying and I'm not on either extreme side of the fence for the record. But there is difference between an audio described video and a piece of hardware that 99% of its audience will be sighted people who its primarily designed for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569156/#p569156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone I find the doublestandard here very interesting. It's truly phenomenal for a huge mainstream gaming company to produce audio descriptive trailors for games the blind will probably never be able to play. It's really not all that great that a music company like NI has taken steps, however small or simple, to make their product mostly accessible to blind musicians. In truth, I've been able to do more with this thing than all my Yamaha, Casio, Korg or Roland products combined. Is it ideal? Nope. Is it perfect? Not even close. Is it accessible? Yes. To what degree is arguable, but it is accessible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569152/#p569152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone I find the doublestandard here very interesting. It's truly phenomenal for a huge mainstream gaming company to produce audio descriptive trailors for games the blind will probably never be able to play. It's really not all that great that a music company like NI has taken steps, however small or simple, to make their product mostly accessible to blind musicians. In truth, I've been able to do more with this thing than all my Yamaha, Casio, Kor or Roland products combined. Is it ideal? Nope. Is it perfect? Not even close. Is it accessible? Yes. To what degree is arguable, but it is accessible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569152/#p569152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @7 You have some good points here.I'm sure someone's gonna come and call you a negative nancy, good for them. I mean, I'm not expected them to just hand things to me so I can get shit done. I made a whole album on Audacity. No fucking MIDI, cut and paste everything where I wanted it, and the EQ plugin I could use in real time crashed 85% of the time. But I still did it because at the time it was the only way for me.I was just thinking of this today, and I'm sure this might make some people angry, but the real issue is the blindness itself. I wish people would put their heads together to try and tackle that, and they are, but I think the medical industry cares about us much less than NI does. Because when it comes to accessibility its impossible, impossible, to create a solution that would target and work for absolutely everyone on this entire planet. I'm not saying accessibility shouldn't exist, though. I mean I use a screen reader and I really should be getting around to donating to NVDA. But its frustrating when you just want to do something other people have no problem doing, and you can't, because of shit like this.Sorry if I'm not very articulate here, I'm kind of hungry and am rushing this post. lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569143/#p569143 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone What NI did is valuable in the sense that it's useful to blind musicians, and in terms of stuff I'd buy/use myself I'd get them for that reason (and indeed I have one).But as a programmer: we waited a year for MK II to work on Windows, or something ridiculously long like that, I forget exactly. The entire thing they did was maybe 5 days for 1 dev. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out someone did it as a weekend project and they ran with it. Putting TTS in how they did is a hack for a company who wants accessibility with the bare minimum of effort. If they were doing actually complicated things like screen reader support for all the stuff we actually still can't use, I'd start using words like embracing, but at the moment they're doing the equivalent of that kid in school who gets Cs on everything by barely trying, except that in this case the school is a bunch of students who get Fs instead so they look like geniuses.Every time we start praising someone for barely trying and saying they're embracing accessibility I get sad, because doing that kind of thing is how we've had the slow but steady decrease in quality of every first party accessibility offering out there. And every time we do it we set the precedent that whoever is the most recent person to not try but get our praise is the standard that everyone needs to meet as well. SO just, stop. Let's not keep dragging things down to the lowest common denominator.I understand that NI is life-changing. But in reality I doubt they care much about us, and I wouldn't be surprised if the stance on this is that it's that annoying thing they do for us because if they dropped it it would be a shitshow like Netflix and Daredevil but worse, because now they *actively* screwed the blind people over. The corporate reality is that philanthropy almost never happens over long periods of time and blind people are worth $0 total--things like Microsoft and Mac and etc. are about 508 and other laws, not "I care about the blind people". URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569034/#p569034 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @5 ... rofl URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569016/#p569016 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Native Instruments can bite my shiny metal ass. Nuff said. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/569012/#p569012 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @3 i can not even get their free sounds cause native access. So first when i load it up with nvda it always puts me in a nonexisttant inputbox. When i do it with narrator i can start download of complete start, but it only downloads a few things and then gets stuck on 0, lan and wify, 2 machines. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568875/#p568875 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone @2 I'm still hopeful they may be working on something. I don't think anyone else was going to do NKS, that's a step in the rite direction. Pro tools isn't that accessible on Windows either and as far as I'm aware is 100% usable on Mac. NI stuff seems to be the same. It would probably be easier to implement accessibility into a static piece of kit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568773/#p568773 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
Re: New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone They're not embracing shit man. NO effort's been made since like 2015-2016 except porting existing features to new hardware. I'm tired of them acting like they stand for accessibility because they're just riding on past successes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568739/#p568739 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone
New Maschine leaked, Maschine +, standalone Looks like NI is going to try to compete with the standalone MCPs with their own standalone hardware based around the Maschine workflow.https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p … tent=ownedReally curious to see what people think of this, especially Nocturnus, as NI seems to be the only company that's putting effort into embracing accessibility. If this thing had TTS feedback, I would get it in a heartbeat.Did some googling and didn't seem to find anything related to accessibility but this is a brand new, fresh hot piece of gear, more is bound to come out eventually. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568737/#p568737 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
