Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone identify this cable?

2008-02-06 Thread killie99
It's speaker cable and it belonged to a friend who sadly died and his wife is asking me to dispose of everything for her. I reckon it's probably about 5 years old as I can remeber him getting it when he bought new speakers and I know he didn't make it up himself - possible that the dealer made it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone identify this cable?

2008-02-06 Thread adamslim
Sorry, I can only tell the difference between cables blind ;) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What a difference a DAC makes...

2008-02-06 Thread Mr_Sukebe
If you can, try removing the DEQ from your system. I did use a DEQ for a while as my old lounge benefitted from the room correction. However, in my new room, it caused more problems than it solved. So it's clearly room dependant regarding benefits, but be aware that it's certainly NOT non

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transporter firmware (v.40) in nightlies

2008-02-06 Thread marlowe
Eric, as you can see above, I also had problems and went back to Slimserver and an earlier firmware. However after reading this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42970 about problems similar to yours I tried again, first updating firmware, the rewriting Xilink and the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread opaqueice
There are several advantages. 1) re: jitter it's best to have the data transmitted asynchronously, stored in memory, and then clocked out to a local DAC with a local oscillator. That minimizes jitter at the DAC in the simplest and best way possible. A USB implementation may or may not be able

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread Jim Holtz
I asked the same question in the Duet announcement thread and Sean replied that the digital side is identical. It *seems* that the analog side might not be as good in the Duet Vs. a SB2/3 in a high resolution audiophile system. Time will tell. Jim -- Jim Holtz

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What a difference a DAC makes...

2008-02-06 Thread slimkid
boudy;265452 Wrote: I recently added a Citypulse DA2.03e II to my main system. I was expecting some level improvement, but wow, I am blown away. There is a major improvement in definition and strength of the bass, and a significant improvement in overall clarity. Before adding the DAC, my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread opaqueice
Jim Holtz;266182 Wrote: I asked the same question in the Duet announcement thread and Sean replied that the digital side is identical. It *seems* that the analog side might not be as good in the Duet Vs. a SB2/3 in a high resolution audiophile system. Time will tell. Well, again, the SB3

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter DEAD after latest update!

2008-02-06 Thread Kiep
I run Server 7, 2008-01-23 version with firmware v.36 and I have no issues -- Kiep Kiep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8844 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;266236 Wrote: Again, let me stress that I doubt very much these issues are important or audible, particularly into a decent DAC, but they are possible. You seem to have moved to a world full of possibilities ;-) -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread mvalera
Here's the text of Seans's post: Jim Holtz;264776 Wrote: Have the jitter figures been announced yet and how do they compare to the Squeezebox? I'm using a modified SB2 as a transport right now. I wouldn't mind selling the SB2 and getting a Duet if it's as good of transport as the SB2 is.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transporter firmware (v.40) in nightlies

2008-02-06 Thread seanadams
marlowe;266161 Wrote: So last night I enjoyed listening to 88.2 recordings from Linn. Great work, Sean, but perhaps something in FW40 is wrong as to finishing up the installation proces? To explain a little background on this, all products since SB2 incorporate a programmable logic chip

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mechanical rattle from SB3

2008-02-06 Thread seanadams
I don't know what we calibrate them to - reasonably hand tight is all it needs. I'm quite sure they're T-10 though. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread Kiep
Transporter is very convenient and that is its biggest attribute. No need for computer interface in your listening room which means no need to deal with typical PC problems such as fan or hard drive noise. I've discovered however that the ethernet sourced data may not necessarily sound the best

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What a difference a DAC makes...

2008-02-06 Thread boudy
...to get to, I don't have the time or desire to do proper blind tests and I really don't want to keep reconfiguring my system. -- boudy Main system: SB3 - DEQ2496 - Citypulse 2.03 - MA 845 - DIY 206ESR BIB Office system: SB3 - DCX2496 - Attenuator - DIY 2 way Open Baffle

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter DEAD after latest update!

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Lanctot
Kiep;266267 Wrote: I run Server 7, 2008-01-23 version with firmware v.36 and I have no issues The OP was referring to FW40, which is located in trunk: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/ -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread seanadams
USB is absolute crap compared to generating and clocking the signal locally as Transporter does. Who promised you jitter-free? -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread seanadams
OK maybe the new async USB does not have the same horrible host-driven 1KHz clocking scheme... -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread scherukat
seanadams;266330 Wrote: USB is absolute crap compared to generating and clocking the signal locally as Transporter does. Who promised you jitter-free? I agree. I should be saying low jitter. -- scherukat scherukat's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread GuyDebord
In between my ex rega saturn and the transporter, I had in demo a Stello DA220 Mk II connected to my mac mini via USB. The transporter was simply superior than the Stello and the saturn. Compared to the coaxial input in the Stello, the USB sound had noticeably less resolution and an annoying

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What a difference a DAC makes...

2008-02-06 Thread GuyDebord
Gadget;265717 Wrote: Please excuse by lack of electronic knowledge, but when I see postings relating to swapping capacitors, it raises 2 questions in my mind 1) Does it really make a difference to the sound, or is the person who made the change kidding themselves that the change was

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread haraldo
Have you observed, for instance, how the Benchmark DAC1 behavies via the USB interface, the DAC1 is amongst the best performing devices there is when it comes to jitter rejection. However, through USB it's not even close to Audiophile standards, check out Stereophile. Much safer to go with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread Kiep
haraldo;266373 Wrote: Have you observed, for instance, how the Benchmark DAC1 behavies via the USB interface, the DAC1 is amongst the best performing devices there is when it comes to jitter rejection. However, through USB it's not even close to Audiophile standards, check out Stereophile.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;266289 Wrote: You seem to have moved to a world full of possibilities ;-) I don't think making absolute statements is very productive - they either come across as polemical or simply confuse people. In my opinion what should be said is something like this: the differences in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread seanadams
opaqueice;266406 Wrote: OK, thanks. Presumably that means he measured the jitter and found it to be identical to within the precision of his gear? That's correct. Furthermore, it is the exact same circuit. -- seanadams

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with choosing Transporter v/s USB DAC

2008-02-06 Thread haraldo
Kiep;266396 Wrote: This was related to a bug in iTunes that JA has used in his review. The bug causes a non bit-perfect transmission.. Jeeez, this is shocking news ==:-O I have worked with software development myself for many more years than I would like to mention in public :-D

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread GuyDebord
opaqueice;266406 Wrote: In my opinion what should be said is something like this: the differences in jitter are at most X, and since Y is the threshold for human perception, we do or do not have to worry about it. Its strange how in this argument you use all humanity to stand out in your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transporter firmware (v.40) in nightlies

2008-02-06 Thread seanadams
Heimiko;266425 Wrote: After reading this, of how to get FW40 working propperly, I tried my luck once again. But sorry to say, even after forcing the update wit pressing '1' at startup, I still get worse results then with FW36. Even a factory reset as described doesn't help. So once again, I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;266406 Wrote: I don't think making absolute statements is very productive - they either come across as polemical or simply confuse people. Well indeed, I agree. opaqueice;266406 Wrote: In my opinion what should be said is something like this: the differences in jitter are at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transporter firmware (v.40) in nightlies

2008-02-06 Thread Eric Seaberg
So is the 'trunk' nightly still the only way to get FW40? I'll try it again this evening and, once more, force the Xilink. I'll post what happens. Thanks... -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread opaqueice
seanadams;266415 Wrote: That's correct. Furthermore, it is the exact same circuit. OK, thanks for clarifying. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread GuyDebord
opaqueice;266449 Wrote: I didn't quite follow that... I imagined. opaqueice;266449 Wrote: c) given what Sean said above, any differences people hear between the digital outputs of the SB2/3 and the SBR are more than 95% certain to be imaginary, which is all I need to know. The

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Differences in sound quality between SB3/Duet when using seperate DAC

2008-02-06 Thread opaqueice
GuyDebord;266454 Wrote: 95%?? Much closer to 100% actually. Things like human hearing sensitivity tend to follow Gaussian distributions. I don't recall the numbers exactly, but even the most optimistic threshold for jitter audibility is way above what Sean can measure. So the odds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mechanical rattle from SB3

2008-02-06 Thread verbatone
Sean, so you were half right, the internal torx are t10, but, at least on my unit, the outer screws are t8. But that doesn't really matter (so why do I point it out you ask!!) Anyway, I took the screen off played a particularly bad song and most of the buzz went away. So I took the SB3