Gentlemen, whether you like it or not.. you have all paid for jitter
reduction circuits in your audio equipment. The more you paid for it,
the more percentage went into the jitter aspects of the design
(especially the Meridian stuff, it takes quite a bit of software
engineering to get that done
SBGK wrote:
ok, so you won't answer the question and use misdirection. Here is a
quote from an eminently respected member of the community in reference
to TT3.0
I did some testing on this a few months ago and found that with some
DACs parts of TT3.0 made a significant improvement and
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
Now for the part about , jitter is not audible - similar logic goes
into the premise behind mp3 (psychoacoustics). I guess you are all happy
with mp3 (?).
These are completely different things. It makes no sense.
Wombat wrote:
These are completely different things. It makes no sense.
What I would like to know is what you makes think that things have to
make sense in order for audiophiles to believe them?
All that is required for most audiophiles to believe something
(anything?) is for some golden
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
Gentlemen, whether you like it or not.. you have all paid for jitter
reduction circuits in your audio equipment. The more you paid for it,
the more percentage went into the jitter aspects of the design
(especially the Meridian stuff, it takes quite a bit of software
ralphpnj wrote:
All that is required for most audiophiles to believe something
(anything?) is for some golden eared guru of the high end press declare
that such and such (insert latest audiophile fad here) makes a night and
day improvement (this is a requirement) to the sound of their
jh901 wrote:
You know most audiophiles? Why can't we simply have a conversation
about the latest hi-end CD players and DACs without getting into the
mud-slinging.
The Light Harmonic Da Vinci DAC is garnering praise. Will post a link
shortly.
Garnering praise from the golden eared gurus
Wombat wrote:
These are completely different things. It makes no sense.
Why not ? This is what wikepedia says about mp3 - The compression works
by reducing accuracy of certain parts of sound that are considered to be
beyond the auditory resolution ability of most people. This method is
Mnyb wrote:
..., or just buy a DAC with good specs then chances are that the
designer have though about it among other factors .
.. .
Right, what is a good DAC that you suggest ? In the graphs below, even
the stock SBT, the jitter induced sidebands are way below. So is it
worth buying this
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
Why not ? This is what wikepedia says about mp3 - The compression works
by reducing accuracy of certain parts of sound that are considered to be
beyond the auditory resolution ability of most people. This method is
commonly referred to as perceptual coding.[13] It
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
If you cannot hear the effects of jitter, probably you will not any
difference between mp3 and wav or any high resolution format.
Sorry, the logic here does not work at all. I can ABX *certain* mp3
files as compared with lossless original (low enough bitrate or problem
And I do agree that this thread has gotten way off point. If we had
moderators, the thread would have been split off with the new thread
title related to jitter. Apologies to the OP.
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ralphpnj wrote:
Garnering praise from the golden eared gurus that I referred to is not
worth anything. Got it?
You win, Ralph. Let's move on to thread topic now. Appreciated.
Larry Ho's Dan Vinci DAC:
http://www.audiostream.com/content/light-harmonic-da-vinci-dac
Ho's story is pretty
http://www.audiostream.com/content/light-harmonic-da-vinci-dual-dac
Ooh. And there is a DSD DAC coming. Wonder if it will have an SACD
interface or if it will only be used for DSD files? dCS uses separate
transports with proprietary interfaces to their DACs for the DSD trapped
on SACDs.
mlsstl wrote:
Navel gazing is quite the allegation coming from you.
To be be insulted by SBGK is one of the best compliments one can receive
on this forum.
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jh901 wrote:
http://www.audiostream.com/content/light-harmonic-da-vinci-dual-dac
Ooh. And there is a DSD DAC coming. Wonder if it will have an SACD
interface or if it will only be used for DSD files? dCS uses separate
transports with proprietary interfaces to their DACs for the DSD
ralphpnj wrote:
Thanks to the internet we can now witness in real time as yet another
audiophile bogeyman is created from thin air. Kind of like the golem of
old Jewish folklore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem) only the golem
did have a purpose other than making some audio manufacturer
garym wrote:
To be be insulted by SBGK is one of the best compliments one can receive
on this forum.
I have him on ignore have I been insulted to ? , is there a badge we can
attach to our avatars
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Mnyb wrote:
...is there a badge we can attach to our avatars
nice one ;)
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View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96407
SBGK wrote:
ok, so you won't answer the question and use misdirection. Here is a
quote from an eminently respected member of the community in reference
to TT3.0
I did some testing on this a few months ago and found that with some
DACs parts of TT3.0 made a significant improvement and
garym wrote:
I notice these DACs also seem to use NOS approach. Mnyb's favorite.
;-)
Actually NOS without any filter and usually old multibit chips :-) thats
one of my fav flaved ideas one should add Audio notes idea of passive
I/V stage with transformer too . (NOS dac is per default broken
Mnyb wrote:
I have him on ignore have I been insulted to ? , is there a badge we can
attach to our avatars
kidstypike wrote:
nice one ;)
Hopefully there will also a TT 3.0 modified badge as well.
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Mnyb wrote:
Nice ! Have a look at thier other measurement to in their data section
under the D2 product . It clearly shows better performance in all areas
than Touch , price similar to benchmark and actually a bit lower not
cheap but not silly .
Really solid performance if true ( any
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
Yes, currently, a DAC cannot be used in my setup. Just SBT- coax -
Panasonic - bi-amp- speakers. But I am considering new speakers and
thinking about DACs like the NAD M51. Wondering what the folks here
think is a reasonably priced DAC (surely not the ones jh suggests
Mnyb wrote:
..
Consider active speakers ( analog or digital ) getting rid of the
passive cross over and power the drivers directly is a very real
improvement , nb some of the simpler active speakers are just passive
speakers with built in amps and sort of misses the piont with coupling
the
SoftwireEngineer wrote:
Exactly, my thoughts. I bought the Newform Research speakers used mainly
to get rid of the crossovers and power them using my TACT (but I need to
get another one M2150). Check this
http://www.newformresearch.com/digital-amplifier-packages.htm. There
will be no
I nominate JPlay v5 as the top end player, can use it with squeezelite
to interface with LMS or use JPlaymini for best sound quality
http://jplay.eu/manual/
of course some of you will need to suspend your belief systems to hear
any differences, while you guys pontificate the rest of the world
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