cdmackay wrote:
[apologies for late reply]
I've whimpered about this before, but I still hold out hope of a
resource, listing recordings available in hi-res, with notes on the
various versions, and how they relate to original mastering, etc.
e.g. just as you say, this recording was
firedog wrote:
... But as I stated, I think DSD derived from analog is a very
legitimate use, and from my reckoning, of about 8000 SACDs in existence,
about 1500 are recorded in native DSD. Many of these SACDs still aren't
available in any other hi-res format. So I don't see the problem
One thing i notice is the ones that now swear dsd sounds better then
everything else are often the ones that heard strange things before but
never seriously questinoned themself. Higher numbers are enough to make
their minds hear things. Now that they read about how great dsd is they
hear it for
RonM wrote:
For the truly geeky, a full history of digital recording can be found at
the link below. There were digital recordings before Cooder's, but his
is considered the first pop multi-track one. It's truly interesting to
note that in several cases digital recording was done
Mnyb wrote:
Actuall I think Jazz also was recorded this way , bit you cleared up
the 16 bit issue , it used 12 + 8 bits in some way :) I misremembered
that one .
Bob Till You Drop was the first digitally recorded album, using the 3M
device as noted. Ry didn't actually like the result much,
For the truly geeky, a full history of digital recording can be found at
the link below. There were digital recordings before Cooder's, but his
is considered the first pop multi-track one.
http://www.aes.org/aeshc/pdf/fine_dawn-of-digital.pdf
R.
First off, I agree that DSD doesn't have a big future. Most of the music
being recorded in DSD today is classical. If you like classical you can
even get quite a decent library as downloads. Otherwise, there isn't
much to get.
I think a lot of the excitement about DSD is coming from audiophiles
Interesting how business seems to work. Blade Runner in this case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R0DSM1DLks
There he states he got a 24bit 88.2khz file that is uncompressed, as i
understand he got this directly from Warner.
The funny thing is that they are doing a SACD release from this with
Archimago wrote:
You might be right, I'll have to double check on this... Been awhile
since I read about it...
I'm not 100% sure either ? But your piont is still valid the 3M system
was a very primitive digital recordings system with performance
limitations but no audiophile complains if
Archimago wrote:
Yeah, I think the review is generally fair - no audiophile worship of
the awesome 1-bit technology :-). The DAC also looks very nice!
However, I would say that his choice of music would not lend to
demonstrate DSD's superiority at all (in fact, likely quite the
Archimago wrote:
Mnyb wrote:
Thankyou for the extended info , the only record I knew of that recorded
with the 3M system was Ry Cooders Jazz .
Was it not 14 bits ? You might be right, I'll have to double check on
this... Been awhile
since I read about it...
Sorry to further detour
Apesbrain wrote:
Sorry to further detour this thread, but you're thinking of his next
album, '-Bop Till You Drop-'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bop_till_You_Drop) (1979).
See also: http://mixonline.com/TECnology-Hall-of-Fame/1978-EM-Mastering/
Actuall I think Jazz also was recorded this
Mnyb wrote:
Actuall I think Jazz also was recorded this way , bit you cleared up
the 16 bit issue , it used 12 + 8 bits in some way :) I misremembered
that one .
..but I don't know where I got that from ? , hate LP sleeve or something
.
a side by side comparison of redbook DSD, with some quite valid
obsrvations IMO, especially the conclusion :)
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/04/auralic-vega-dsd-review/
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bakker_be wrote:
a side by side comparison of redbook DSD, with some quite valid
obsrvations IMO, especially the conclusion :)
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/04/auralic-vega-dsd-review/
Yeah, I think the review is generally fair. The DAC also looks very
nice!
However, I would say
Archimago wrote:
Yeah, I think the review is generally fair - no audiophile worship of
the awesome 1-bit technology :-). The DAC also looks very nice!
However, I would say that his choice of music would not lend to
demonstrate DSD's superiority at all (in fact, likely quite the
Mnyb wrote:
Thankyou for the extended info , the only record I knew of that recorded
with the 3M system was Ry Cooders Jazz .
Was it not 14 bits ?
You might be right, I'll have to double check on this... Been awhile
since I read about it...
Archimago wrote:
Notice that even after CAWM was exposed, the record label never
re-released a proper version. How's that for fostering customer loyalty
or faith in the product?
Neither did the clowns in the audio press ever admit that they too had
been had nor apologize to their readers. In
Mnyb wrote:
good morning btw (07:20 here) time for - some music in whatever format-
to the coffee :)
Unfortunately, for me, it is Dutch radio... At least there is coffee...
Julf's Profile:
Other than as a feature to hype up the new DAC's - that says it all.
The best thing about the current DSD craze is just how clearly it
exposed the link between the high end audio press and their puppet
masters, i.e. their advertisers and the manufacturers. So while I
understand that not all of
ralphpnj wrote:
Other than as a feature to hype up the new DAC's - that says it all.
The best thing about the current DSD craze is just how clearly it
exposed the link between the high end audio press and their puppet
masters, i.e. their advertisers and the manufacturers. So while I
Well, after measuring the Oppo in DSD mode and doing the writeup, I
couldn't help but put together a few thoughts about DSD in general...
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/04/musings-on-sacd-dsd-audio.html
Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone :-)
+1 nice blog well thought out , it does not really add anything we dont
already have , good morning btw (07:20 here) time for - some music in
whatever format- to the coffee :)
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Mnyb wrote:
+1 nice blog well thought out , it does not really add anything we dont
already have , good morning btw (07:20 here) time for - some music in
whatever format- to the coffee :)
Happy Sunday, sir. It's still 22:30 Saturday night in this part of the
world... Just right for dim
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