Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-08-03 Thread Mnyb
cdmackay wrote: [apologies for late reply] I've whimpered about this before, but I still hold out hope of a resource, listing recordings available in hi-res, with notes on the various versions, and how they relate to original mastering, etc. e.g. just as you say, this recording was

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-08-03 Thread cdmackay
firedog wrote: ... But as I stated, I think DSD derived from analog is a very legitimate use, and from my reckoning, of about 8000 SACDs in existence, about 1500 are recorded in native DSD. Many of these SACDs still aren't available in any other hi-res format. So I don't see the problem

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-08-03 Thread Wombat
One thing i notice is the ones that now swear dsd sounds better then everything else are often the ones that heard strange things before but never seriously questinoned themself. Higher numbers are enough to make their minds hear things. Now that they read about how great dsd is they hear it for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-07-26 Thread garym
RonM wrote: For the truly geeky, a full history of digital recording can be found at the link below. There were digital recordings before Cooder's, but his is considered the first pop multi-track one. It's truly interesting to note that in several cases digital recording was done

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-07-26 Thread RonM
Mnyb wrote: Actuall I think Jazz also was recorded this way , bit you cleared up the 16 bit issue , it used 12 + 8 bits in some way :) I misremembered that one . Bob Till You Drop was the first digitally recorded album, using the 3M device as noted. Ry didn't actually like the result much,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-07-26 Thread RonM
For the truly geeky, a full history of digital recording can be found at the link below. There were digital recordings before Cooder's, but his is considered the first pop multi-track one. http://www.aes.org/aeshc/pdf/fine_dawn-of-digital.pdf R.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-07-24 Thread firedog
First off, I agree that DSD doesn't have a big future. Most of the music being recorded in DSD today is classical. If you like classical you can even get quite a decent library as downloads. Otherwise, there isn't much to get. I think a lot of the excitement about DSD is coming from audiophiles

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-07-18 Thread Wombat
Interesting how business seems to work. Blade Runner in this case. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R0DSM1DLks There he states he got a 24bit 88.2khz file that is uncompressed, as i understand he got this directly from Warner. The funny thing is that they are doing a SACD release from this with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-14 Thread Mnyb
Archimago wrote: You might be right, I'll have to double check on this... Been awhile since I read about it... I'm not 100% sure either ? But your piont is still valid the 3M system was a very primitive digital recordings system with performance limitations but no audiophile complains if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-14 Thread bakker_be
Archimago wrote: Yeah, I think the review is generally fair - no audiophile worship of the awesome 1-bit technology :-). The DAC also looks very nice! However, I would say that his choice of music would not lend to demonstrate DSD's superiority at all (in fact, likely quite the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-14 Thread Apesbrain
Archimago wrote: Mnyb wrote: Thankyou for the extended info , the only record I knew of that recorded with the 3M system was Ry Cooders Jazz . Was it not 14 bits ? You might be right, I'll have to double check on this... Been awhile since I read about it... Sorry to further detour

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-14 Thread Mnyb
Apesbrain wrote: Sorry to further detour this thread, but you're thinking of his next album, '-Bop Till You Drop-' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bop_till_You_Drop) (1979). See also: http://mixonline.com/TECnology-Hall-of-Fame/1978-EM-Mastering/ Actuall I think Jazz also was recorded this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-14 Thread Mnyb
Mnyb wrote: Actuall I think Jazz also was recorded this way , bit you cleared up the 16 bit issue , it used 12 + 8 bits in some way :) I misremembered that one . ..but I don't know where I got that from ? , hate LP sleeve or something .

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-13 Thread bakker_be
a side by side comparison of redbook DSD, with some quite valid obsrvations IMO, especially the conclusion :) http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/04/auralic-vega-dsd-review/ bakker_be's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-13 Thread Archimago
bakker_be wrote: a side by side comparison of redbook DSD, with some quite valid obsrvations IMO, especially the conclusion :) http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/04/auralic-vega-dsd-review/ Yeah, I think the review is generally fair. The DAC also looks very nice! However, I would say

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-13 Thread Mnyb
Archimago wrote: Yeah, I think the review is generally fair - no audiophile worship of the awesome 1-bit technology :-). The DAC also looks very nice! However, I would say that his choice of music would not lend to demonstrate DSD's superiority at all (in fact, likely quite the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-13 Thread Archimago
Mnyb wrote: Thankyou for the extended info , the only record I knew of that recorded with the 3M system was Ry Cooders Jazz . Was it not 14 bits ? You might be right, I'll have to double check on this... Been awhile since I read about it...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-08 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: Notice that even after CAWM was exposed, the record label never re-released a proper version. How's that for fostering customer loyalty or faith in the product? Neither did the clowns in the audio press ever admit that they too had been had nor apologize to their readers. In

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-07 Thread Julf
Mnyb wrote: good morning btw (07:20 here) time for - some music in whatever format- to the coffee :) Unfortunately, for me, it is Dutch radio... At least there is coffee... Julf's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-07 Thread ralphpnj
Other than as a feature to hype up the new DAC's - that says it all. The best thing about the current DSD craze is just how clearly it exposed the link between the high end audio press and their puppet masters, i.e. their advertisers and the manufacturers. So while I understand that not all of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-07 Thread Archimago
ralphpnj wrote: Other than as a feature to hype up the new DAC's - that says it all. The best thing about the current DSD craze is just how clearly it exposed the link between the high end audio press and their puppet masters, i.e. their advertisers and the manufacturers. So while I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-06 Thread Archimago
Well, after measuring the Oppo in DSD mode and doing the writeup, I couldn't help but put together a few thoughts about DSD in general... http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/04/musings-on-sacd-dsd-audio.html Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone :-)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-06 Thread Mnyb
+1 nice blog well thought out , it does not really add anything we don’t already have , good morning btw (07:20 here) time for - some music in whatever format- to the coffee :) Mnyb's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!

2013-04-06 Thread Archimago
Mnyb wrote: +1 nice blog well thought out , it does not really add anything we don’t already have , good morning btw (07:20 here) time for - some music in whatever format- to the coffee :) Happy Sunday, sir. It's still 22:30 Saturday night in this part of the world... Just right for dim