Anyboy still here?
What is the level of the world clock IN required? Could not find those
spec.
My DAC outputs a word clock signal of 96kHz at roughly 5V peak-peak,
which seem to be to low for the transporter to lock on.
How much is required to work?
Vicente
FYI:
The friend with the EMM player bought Weiss INT202 to use with his
Mac.
If you're thinking of using Mac/Amarra as source, you shall consider it
as well..
--Michael
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vpnogueira;626973 Wrote:
How much better is the XDS1 receiving 24/96 instead of 16/44or48?
Comparison of 16/44/48 to 24/96 has more to do with the quality of
recordings. There are certain 16/44 recordings that are better than
these in 24/96, however nothing can be compared to the best 24/96
Dear Michael,
Thank you very much!
I contacted EMM and now have the settings right.
If you don't mind me asking for more of your experience, do you still
use the Logitech Transporter with your EMM Labs? If so, is it
standard or modded? If modded, by whom? I have seen at least four Mods
vpnogueira;627565 Wrote:
If you don't mind me asking for more of your experience, do you still
use the Logitech Transporter with your EMM Labs? If so, is it
standard or modded? If modded, by whom? I have seen at least four Mods
for the Transporter (in this case, of course no need for a
michael123;627584 Wrote:
Hi Vicente
The EMM is of my friend, not mine.
My Transporter is modded (by another friend), but if you're going to
use it solely as a digital transporter, then it is absolutely useless.
Hello Michael,
I have been trying to find the best way to feed the EMM labs
Modding Transporter solely for digital transport purpose is useless, as
it is already very good (as digital transport)
Transporter can only be connected to Logitech Squeezebox Server through
the Ethernet (or wireless) link
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vpnogueira;626897 Wrote:
Dear Sean Adams,
Is it possible to transfer high def audio 24/96 from the Transporter to
EMM Labs DCC2 SE?
Thanks,
Vicente
I tested Transporter feeding EMM XDS1 via AES/EBU without any issues.
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michael123;626956 Wrote:
I tested Transporter feeding EMM XDS1 via AES/EBU without any issues.
Hello Michael,
Thank you! This is great news.
How much better is the XDS1 receiving 24/96 instead of 16/44or48?
Would you mind sharing the settings you use in the EMM Labs and
Transporter when
seanadams;254037 Wrote:
I think so too. There are some intermittent issues going on. Also from
achri-d's symptoms it seems there were things inconsistent from one run
to the next.
It is possibly related to this bug, although it may have nothing to do
with word clock input per se:
vpnogueira;622740 Wrote:
Dear Walt Shields,
I have an EMM Labs DCC2 SE, and after reading your posts, I would very
much appreciate your comments about the sound of the DCC2 feeding the
clock to the Transporter. If you prefer other alternatives (not
Transporter) to feed the DAC, feel
wshields;254032 Wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I thought it was probably just a coincidence. The
only reason I thought it might have had any effect was that I am using
aes/ebu as main digital out and thought there was a small chance that
the aes output might output data and other digital outs
A related issue arose in a thread I started here yesterday. I did a
Google search on External Word Clock and, lo and behold! found myself
back at this forum on this thread. I have dCS Elgar Plus DAC, Verdi la
Scala Transport and Verona Word Clock. I am interested in downloading
high resolution
With the experts gathered here I'm hoping to get a couple of answers
that have me a bit perplexed. Earlier on this thread it was implied
that the bandwidth of a wireless router was not enough for high quality
sound. What rates are the real high quality music? I've checked my
SB3's wireless
Nonreality wrote:
With the experts gathered here I'm hoping to get a couple of answers
that have me a bit perplexed. Earlier on this thread it was implied
that the bandwidth of a wireless router was not enough for high quality
sound. What rates are the real high quality music?
I think it
It's been one of the things that has really impressed me about the SB3
is how well the wireless has worked and sounded. Granted it's only
about 25 feet away from my access point but it has been fantastic. I
run both Flac and Lame mp3 220 vbr and never have dropouts or any loss
of quality. Yes
I have been going through the threads on this subject and am vague on
the need for the Master Clock as it seems that it would be necessary
only when the master clock is driving multiple devices.
Does anyone use the Audio Synthesis DAX with their ASL Audio Synthesis
Link, or ASL, which is a
I am interested to know how much jitter is present in the various
digital outputs from the transporter (Optical, RCA SPDIF, BNC SPDIF,
AES/EBU). Many Dacs dont have a clock output and rely on the quality
of the digital signal of the transport :)
I know it is hard to be objective but I am trying
jeanadams has given the answer in another thread, here it is:
jitter is lowest for streaming (17ps), and higher for s/pdif (50-200 ps
depending on the source).
S/PDIF is a unidrectional connection which transmits clock and data
together, which is why the clock is subject to degradation.
In
Hmmm... I am a little confused by your reply. I am trying to find out
how much jitter is present on the various transporter digital outputs
(the input is assumed to be streaming). I was hoping seanadams might
have this data.
My goal is to compare the transporter as a transport to various cd
It's just a number, but the best I have seen on the receiving end fed by
a Transporter would be about 35ps RMS. That's a BNC going into a scope
with tee and a 75R terminating resistor right on the input. That is
your lower bound. Then the receiving circuit will add some by the time
it gets to the
seanadams;253693 Wrote:
achri-d,
I have been doing some testing just now with version 33 firmware and I
am able to sync with any word clock frequency from 1KHz to 100KHz. I
can also vary the frequency, unplug and re-plug the cable, or even set
it to rapidly sweep a wide range of
Really interesting discussions about 48kHz locking and using an external
word clock.
In my first setting I used the dcs scarlatti dac and the transporter.
If trasnporter was master and the dac was running as slave the quality
using the separate dac was slightly better than using the analogue
Today I tried the analogue outputs again and this is what happened:
1) Internal clock.
44.1, 48, 88.2 played well (I did not try 96 but can see no reason why
it shouldn't work).
2) External clock 44.1kHz - using data at 44.1kS/s.
If I turn the external clock off the music slows down.
If I set
Today I tried the analogue outputs again and this is what happened:
1) Internal clock.
44.1, 48, 88.2 played well (I did not try 96 but can see no reason why
it shouldn't work).
2) External clock 44.1kHz - using data at 44.1kS/s.
If I turn the external clock off the music slows down.
If I set
achri-d;253940 Wrote:
I checked this now just to make sure and it does not work. Using the
internal clock of the Transporter works.
OK... well if that is the case then it points to an interaction with
one of the open bugs I am working on. It may be solved already for the
new firmware
Sean,
I am the person who reported the bug with using the word clock in with
a EMM dcc2. I have been following this thread and did something today
that may have fixed my problems. (or it could be a coincidence) To
summarize my problem was that the clock was getting out of sync when
using the emm
seanadams;253967 Wrote:
OK... well if that is the case then it points to an interaction with one
of the open bugs I am working on. It may be solved already for the new
firmware that is in the works, but I will do some more testing and see
if I can find an explanation. I still do not see any
wshields;253999 Wrote:
Sean,
I am the person who reported the bug with using the word clock in with
a EMM dcc2. I have been following this thread and did something today
that may have fixed my problems. (or it could be a coincidence) To
summarize my problem was that the clock was getting
achri-d;254017 Wrote:
So, please notify when it's fixed and I will test it. I am not a regular
visitor at this forum.
I will let you know when the new firmware is available. I can't promise
that it will fix your issue as I am still unable to reproduce the
problem. However, I am fixing other
Thanks for the reply. I thought it was probably just a coincidence. I do
have everything set up correctly. The dac is definitely the master as
the timing changes when I switch from 44 to 48 setting on the dac. I am
not really sure why it seems to be working now and not before. (It
always seemed
wshields;254032 Wrote:
I thought it was probably just a coincidence.
I think so too. There are some intermittent issues going on. Also from
achri-d's symptoms it seems there were things inconsistent from one run
to the next.
It is possibly related to this bug, although it may have nothing to
mofuv;251835 Wrote:
I have only tried out 44,1 kHz so far, will check others in the near
fuutre.
I think there is a serious flaw in the Transporter clocking system - so
I assume you don't succeed.
My system is a dCS Paganini DAC and clock. When I try to syncronize the
Transporter I am not
achri-d;253579 Wrote:
I think there is a serious flaw in the Transporter clocking system - so
I assume you don't succeed.
My system is a dCS Paganini DAC and clock. When I try to syncronize the
Transporter I am not able to lock the Transporter to 48kHz. 44.1kHz
works.
Rgds
I think a
seanadams;253597 Wrote:
I think a more likely explanation is that you are not syncing in either
case - perhaps they are both trying to be master, and it only _appears_
to work at 44.1 because the nominal clock speeds are the same.
No.
seanadams;253597 Wrote:
What happens if you
achri-d;253632 Wrote:
It goes silent.
OK good... next thing to test is to try listening to Transporter's
_analog_ outputs while it is being fed by the 48KHz word clock. They
should operate both in 44.1 and in 48KHz mode. Then if you disconnect
the word clock while playing, the analog
seanadams;253647 Wrote:
OK good... next thing to test is to try listening to Transporter's
_analog_ outputs while it is being fed by the 48KHz word clock. They
should operate both in 44.1 and in 48KHz mode. Then if you disconnect
the word clock while playing, the analog outputs should either
achri-d;253654 Wrote:
Yes, when I used a dCS Delius as external clock to Transporter this
works as well. Indeed, the 44.1 sounds speed up. I also tried to run 96
like this. And then of course slows down. Notice, in this case I used
the analogue outputs. If I turn
off the clock the
achri-d,
I have been doing some testing just now with version 33 firmware and I
am able to sync with any word clock frequency from 1KHz to 100KHz. I
can also vary the frequency, unplug and re-plug the cable, or even set
it to rapidly sweep a wide range of frequencies (that sounds really
weird!)
my spdif cable with eichmann bullet plugs doesnt fit into the bnc word
clock of the transporter. do i need an adaptor or a new plug?
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you should be using a standard 75-ohm coax bnc-bnc cable to connect
clock signals.
I guess you could use an rca-bnc adaptor and a spdif cable.
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ain't what you'd call minimal...
...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn
mofuv;240184 Wrote:
I am not working for dcs nor do I have any affiliation with them. But
they make great products. The sound I get with the transporter and the
scarlatti is the best I have ever heard. I am running in parallel a
Linn Akurate CD player. EAC ripped CD's in my system can fully
GuyDebord;25 Wrote:
With such a sophisticated digital frontend, why rely on a slow QNAP?
I fully agree. The QNAP is very slow, also I was not satisfied using a
TranquilPC. The transporter had difficulties to connect to and to get
data from the tranquiPC running slimserver . The digital
Does the Transporter lock - when slaved - to other frequencies than
44.1Hz? Rgds.
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It is a wireless router which is not suited to transfer the necessary
datastream for high quality audio.
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You mean it doesn't have enough bandwidth?
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mofuv;239487 Wrote:
thanks Mark, it is easy to change the setting that way, but difficult to
get the transporter really running (with an external clock as master).
First it did not have any output at all, but setting it back to master,
then again to slave, then switching it off and on showed
I am not working for dcs nor do I have any affiliation with them. But
they make great products. The sound I get with the transporter and the
scarlatti is the best I have ever heard. I am running in parallel a
Linn Akurate CD player. EAC ripped CD's in my system can fully compare
to the same discs
mofuv;240184 Wrote:
Since I have connected the transporter to the QNAP directly not linked
through my router (to avoid interferences from the router) I must
disconnect it every time from the router and connect it to the
computer.
What sort of interferences?
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thanks Mark, it is easy to change the setting that way, but difficult to
get the transporter really running (with an external clock as master).
First it did not have any output at all, but setting it back to master,
then again to slave, then switching it off and on showed positive
results. Now
Thank you for the hint how to set the world clock input.
I am using a dcs scarlatti dac - http://dcsltd.co.uk/ - as master which
has a world clock output. The dac receives the digital data from the
transporter and the transporter is directly connected via an ethernet
cable to a QNap Turbo
mofuv;239168 Wrote:
Has anyone an idea how to access the settings of the SlimServer in the
QNap Turbo Station NAS Drive?
http://QNap IP address:9000 in any browser, as with all SlimServer
installs.
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I have an external world clock connected to the world clock input of the
transporter. I cannot find any information how to set the transporter as
slave when using the external world clock a master. Where can I find
this information? Any ideas?
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Can I ask why you want to do this? The only reason would be if you're
taking a digital output of the TP and feeding it into another digital
source that is ALSO locked to the same word clock.
You can select the word clock source by using the WEB Browser within
the Transporter settings.
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I want to use a DAC with a world clock output as master.
What do you mean with WEB Browser within the transporter settings?
Under settings in the transporter there is no WEB browser topic and
connecting the computer via slimserver to the transporter does not give
a menue with settings, only
In slimserver go to Player Settings/Audio, and scroll down to Clock
Source.
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Eric Seaberg;238845 Wrote:
So you have a D-to-A converter than has a wordclock output? Haven't
heard of that one.
That's the whole point of it! You are thinking of a very different
application of the concept.
You may want to listen to the analog output of the Transporter on its
own
mofuv;238794 Wrote:
I want to use a DAC with a world clock output as master.
So you have a D-to-A converter than has a wordclock output? Haven't
heard of that one. You may want to listen to the analog output of the
Transporter on its own before going through all of the hassle.
I did some
We do have house sync (video black) as well as house wordclock... two
different things and used for two different purposes. Our rooms were
designed by some of the folks that worked at Lucas' Skywalker Ranch as
well as myself. We've been doing this a long time. ;-)
We have 6 Benchmark DAC1s
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