Re: [Aus-soaring] Comparing accident rates

Dear all . I do intend to comment on this thread later. There are so many inaccuracies but I’m limited to 1 finger typing for a while. Gary. I recall henry showing me drawings of a 70-1 sailplane back in the early 70’s and bev attended a lecture he gave at rmit on this subject. We

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What? Name calling? Mature men getting to that stage? I'll have to go to the trash bin to have a look, coz I've been wearing out the delete key on that thread. I lost interest long ago on that one. Just goes to show that Anarchy (apart from being a quaint village you fly over on the way into

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>> Can I gently suggest we might have whipped this topic hard enough at this >> point What was the topic? Something like "Is gliding dangerous"? If the answer is "gliding is dangerous", then how might we go about making it safer? Are there any specific areas or activities which are either

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Hey Gentlemen! (and at this point I am using the term increasingly loosely) Can I gently suggest we might have whipped this topic hard enough at this point, and that none of you are interested in being sympathetic to the views of the others sufficiently for this conversation to have any real

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Not just gliding, all of aviation. Instructors are supposed to be able to provide evidence, years and years later, that they covered every god damn thing imaginable. “Do you have evidence, in writing, that you specifically educated the deceased that a powered aircraft can not maintain

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Sorry Mark it wasn't personal. Your statement came across as someone who seemed not to understand the reality of what responsibility of checking can mean. You can read all about it here https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2001/aair/aair200100348/ He was a mate and I was

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On 11 Mar 2016, at 11:36, Optusnet wrote: > > > Mark, would you mind letting me know when you are flying next, I just don't > want to be in the same airspace as you and expose myself to the increased > risk. Personal attack, JJ? C'mon, that's just weak. > As

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Hmm, well a lot of glider pilots have a PPL Mark, quite a few are CPL and a lot are ATPL. Some are ATPL and CFI too.. but we all still have to do an AFR to continue gliding Mark, even you. ROSS _

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Mark, would you mind letting me know when you are flying next, I just don't want to be in the same airspace as you and expose myself to the increased risk. As to your statement Incidentally: People die in aircraft all the time, and what you just wrote never happens. It’s 24 carat

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Oh, may I bow down to your PPL superiority. Thank you for your efforts in making our airspace safe. JJ Sent from my iPad > On 11 Mar 2016, at 10:06 AM, Mark Newton wrote: > >> On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:16 AM, Optusnet wrote: >> >> That's

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On 11 Mar 2016, at 9:16 AM, Optusnet wrote: > At some point some poor bunny has to put their neck on the block and be > prepared to look your wife and kids in the eye and say. " I conducted his AFR > as required by a approved revalidation program, a program that is

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That's all fine and well Mark until it comes to your CFI and ultimately Chris Thorpe to authorise your operations as a pilot. Sure every standards position holder could use the statement ("I don’t care about accident rates in aviation generally. I care about my personal accident rate.I can

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Be aware that the accident reporting system some years ago going into the GFA system was significantly deficient. In one state reporting was running at about 50 -70% of the claims rate. If we had not seen a change in the culture, discussions were going to be taken with the insurance

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Without getting into the nitty gritty of statistics, I think it is reasonable to suggest the following: Based on the reported incidents over a recent 12 month period for gliding and motorcycles, the basic incident per hour rate is broadly similar as per Mark Newton's estimate. The percentage of

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On 10/03/2016 6:50 PM, Texler, Michael wrote: I've not seen them described that way in the road safety literature that I'm familiar with. How would that work? If the number of accidents is on the Y axis, what variable would the X axis have? If we go with road accidents (my field of

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At 04:35 PM 3/10/2016, you wrote: It is always difficult to compare accidents rates for 'rare' events due to the wide 95% confidence intervals. Somebody should tell Chris Thorpe before he embarrasses himself in print again. (the spin accident stats) Mike Borgelt Instruments - design &