Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship?

February 2017 23:41 To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship? The saga continues… Again from the GFA Facebook page: “At the request of the Board no more posts will b

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day, 7 February 2017 08:01 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship? whats positive Mark is that it is recognised that most of the work that needs to done has to be at

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oaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Richard Frawley Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:01 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship? whats p

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On 7 Feb 2017, at 7:34 AM, Richard Frawley wrote: > > > snarkiness??? > its that what exposing some reality is called? He has a job to do. He’s doing the opposite of the job. > > john might not be very PC and the way he expressed things could have been a > little more

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On 7/02/2017 12:10 AM, Ulrich Stauss wrote: The saga continues… Again from the GFA Facebook page: “At the request of the Board no more posts will be made to this page. Therefore sadly it is effectively now closed.” Somebody switching the lights off? Interesting comments too. No, John

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship?

Tick or check mark. -Original Message- From: Mark Newton Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:23 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship? > On 30 Jan 2017, at 18:08, Al Borowski <al

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> On 30 Jan 2017, at 18:08, Al Borowski wrote: > >> On 30/01/2017, Mark Newton wrote: >> Why do you want ranks? >> >> - mark > > Because an untrained beginner with 2 hours experience should be given > different privileges and responsibilities

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t; Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:50 PM >> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship? >> >> On 30/01/2017, Richard Frawley <rjfraw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> i assume mo

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On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Christopher McDonnell wrote: > > I spent some time outside the GFA until the hoops were made nearly impossible > to jump through. Well, of course the hoops were nearly impossible to jump through: GFA lobbied against the regulatory

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I agree, nobody would be bothered trying to post anything mildly critical of the GFA or its policies on an official GFA site. I know for sure such articles have been censored from the magazine. Mike > On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:43 AM, Richard Frawley wrote: > > it could do, I

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that is a period of change, it will be gradual as most things are > On 30 Jan 2017, at 2:33 pm, Mike Borgelt wrote: > > In 20 years most of the current or would be GFA membership will be dead or in > nursing homes. > If this freedom will be available in 20

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why register it as a glider? Is there a choice? its has over 200Klm battery range and it takes off from the ground, sounds like a light aircraft to me > On 30 Jan 2017, at 2:28 pm, Mark Newton wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Richard Frawley

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On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Richard Frawley wrote: > > its a wonderful country that we have so much choice For gliders? How? Where? It’s GFA or nothing. > in 20 years time, gliding will not be what it is today. > Those that want to soar and not be in ‘club’ will be able

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Isn't a proposed gliding site also meant to be approved by an RTO Ops? Mike > On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:57 AM, Mark Newton wrote: > > Independent ops ratings are issued by club CFIs. > > They require clubs to have training panels and chief flying instructors, > which is

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its a wonderful country that we have so much choice in 20 years time, gliding will not be what it is today. Those that want to soar and not be in ‘club’ will be able to do so. Why put a GP15 into glider category, why not have it as light aircraft? > On 30 Jan 2017, at 1:59 pm, Mark

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On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Richard Frawley wrote: > > in time my view is the sport will change. electric self launchers and more > ownership will be the norm. small clubs will die. big clubs will go > commercial. it will take 15 years to migrate to a new model. In my

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Thats what the GPC is…..have you not been exposed to that by your club? Anyone can buy a self launcher and with the right Independant Ops rating you can fly it without anyone else needed. I strongly suspect that as self launch electrics in particular become more common (see GPGliders.com -

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On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:14 AM, Richard Frawley wrote: > > after 3 years of trying the positive path and not seeing engagement, he has > just got the shits with the whole thing and feels like giving the community a > wake up call. i doubt there is much viewing of any of the

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t; aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> > Cc: > > Sent: > Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:14:18 +1100 > Subject: > Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Negative Advertising and Censorship? > > > > > > after 3 years of trying the positive path and not seeing engagement, he > has just got

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: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> Cc: Sent: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:14:18 +1100 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Neg

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I also wrote to the GFA, however my request was that they stop this from continually happening. I'm embarrassed to have the GFA represent me in this way on public social media. Like most other GFA members I do plenty of volunteer work at my local club and I get a good deal of satisfaction from

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I did this really strange thing and wrote to the GFA asking them to remove it JJ Justin Sinclair 17 Queen St Scarborough Qld 0421061811 Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Justin Sinclair > Date: 30 January 2017 at

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Thank you Richard, even though my contribution is spread over 50 years, I am still in there pitching for a future for gliding at the coal face. In the last 6 months I have - - contributed to a neighbouring club whose CFI ‘retired’ because of the ever increasing onerous impositions by GFA on