Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread tom claffey
At the Mafikeng World Comps landing on bitumen runway with room off to each side on grass the local rule was if you stopped with any part of the glider over bitumen then you got a 50point penalty! At the last few comps I have been at there have been more incidents/close calls and worse from the

[Aus-soaring] Darling Downs weather for the weekend of 9 - 10 March 2013

2013-03-06 Thread Robert Hart
Hi folks The weekend forecast is available at the link below and the weather looks to be good, with unstable air and convection cloud on both days. I will update tomorrow as usual. -- Robert

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Newton
On 07/03/2013, at 3:00 AM, tom claffey to...@yahoo.com wrote: At the Mafikeng World Comps landing on bitumen runway with room off to each side on grass the local rule was if you stopped with any part of the glider over bitumen then you got a 50point penalty! At the last few comps I have

Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields

2013-03-06 Thread Simon Hackett
Towing on grass adds its own challenges to such a question - and certainly an electric vehicle may be heavier than an ICE based one. That said, under many circumstances more weight on a towing vehicle is better - else it might just sit there and spin its wheels. For towing on hard surfaces,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Electric replacement for quad bikes around airfields

2013-03-06 Thread Tim Shirley
Many years ago I saw one member of this list towing a Bocian to the launch point with a mountain bike, after his car had broken down :) Cheers Tim Tra dire e fare c’è mezzo il mare -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread Scott Penrose
On 07/03/2013, at 3:30 AM, tom claffey to...@yahoo.com wrote: At the last few comps I have been at there have been more incidents/close calls and worse from the land straight and dick around for ten minutes pilots than from those carefully taxiing off. I would also prefer to see NO cars on

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread gstevo10
Ron, It is because they have flaps, of course! However if you invert the question, Standard Class gliders may fly in 15 m (Racing) Class. Gary - Original Message - From: Ron Sanders To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:23

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread DMcD
Hello Tom, I really don't have an axe to grind here. You said… there have been more incidents/close calls and worse from the land straight and dick around for ten minutes pilots than from those carefully taxiing off. My glider has a steerable tail wheel, so I have the ability to veer off the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread Daryl Mackay
Not saying a new local rule should not be used for a special event or particular AFLD. That is done to guard against problems identified for that unique set of circumstances but there has to be a starting point that we can all relate to. Same as some AFLDs require RH circuits to to avoid flying

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread Adam Woolley
It's a subject we're not going to win, but as you know - STD class gliders have flexibility of flying both classes, but racing gliders are limited to just one (at the MCN) class. The handicaps are fair, yeah? So there's no advantage to be in a racing glider while competing in STD class. Yet

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread Adam Woolley
Continuing on with the example, in STD class, the LS4 would keep its 1.04 handicap - as it's competing in the class that it should be. WPP On 07/03/2013, at 8:48, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Ron, It is because they have flaps, of course! However if you invert the question, Standard

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread Matthew Gage
Unfortunately, when you have 40 gliders landing within 5 minutes on a strip that can accommodate 3 abreast, there is no way this is possible or safe if everyone just lands straight ahead. Everyone MUST land long, and those on the edges MUST taxi off. I've flown 2 comps this summer. at the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread Daryl Mackay
I couldn't agree with you more. Sounds like a really good local procedure. Everyone in the loop. On 07/03/2013 8:43 AM, Matthew Gage m...@knightschallenge.com wrote: Unfortunately, when you have 40 gliders landing within 5 minutes on a strip that can accommodate 3 abreast, there is no way this

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread Scott Penrose
On 07/03/2013, at 11:42 AM, Matthew Gage m...@knightschallenge.com wrote: Unfortunately, when you have 40 gliders landing within 5 minutes on a strip that can accommodate 3 abreast, there is no way this is possible or safe if everyone just lands straight ahead. Everyone MUST land long, and

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 08:48 AM 7/03/2013, you wrote: Ron, It is because they have flaps, of course! However if you invert the question, Standard Class gliders may fly in 15 m (Racing) Class. Gary Clean miss of the point again, Gary. Have a think about it. Mike ___

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread Ron
I think you missed the point . If the handicaps are so good what does it matter whether the span in 100 metres or if it has flaps? Ron On 07/03/2013, at 6:48, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Ron, It is because they have flaps, of course! However if you invert the question, Standard Class

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread tom claffey
At the Mafikeng World Comps landing on bitumen runway with room off to each side on grass the local rule was if you stopped with any part of the glider over bitumen then you got a 50point penalty! At the last few comps I have been at there have been more incidents/close calls and worse from the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread tom claffey
At the Mafikeng World Comps landing on bitumen runway with room off to each side on grass the local rule was if you stopped with any part of the glider over bitumen then you got a 50point penalty! At the last few comps I have been at there have been more incidents/close calls and worse from the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread tom claffey
Who said the handicaps were so good? Regarding CLASSES, any glider which fits is fine. Tom___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread Matthew Scutter
Ron, Because the handicaps have practical limitations as gliders have different performance characteristics in different weather, which handicaps can't take into account. The handicaps are probably fair for a Cirrus and an ASG29 on a 3kt day, but they certainly aren't on a 12kt day. This seems to

Re: [Aus-soaring] Taxying after Landing (Thanks)

2013-03-06 Thread tom claffey
My preference is to land to the side of the strip so nobody can be beside me and taxi off in that direction. Landing on the bitumen and taxiing off onto the grass really needs the situation in Mafeking where nobody was allowed to land on the grass or taxiing off onto a runway strip where nobody

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread Ron
Adam you are right in all counts. It won't be implemented either Ron On 07/03/2013, at 7:40, Adam Woolley go_soar...@hotmail.com wrote: It's a subject we're not going to win, but as you know - STD class gliders have flexibility of flying both classes, but racing gliders are limited to

Re: [Aus-soaring] Boring

2013-03-06 Thread nimb...@internode.on.net
How about letting the previous generation 20m gliders fly in 15m class where the handicaps are much closer as compared to current generation open class. The other factor that gives the higher performance gliders an advantage over the previous generation gliders when there is a large handicap