Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matt Gage
Sadly, whilst it was great to see a new glider on the air, nothing can be taken from the comp in terms of potential performance. The 20m class had far more to do with the pilots than the gliders. The Jones brothers would still have won flying a DG505! I got to see it close up for a short

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matthew Scutter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xrDLQ61474 Standard class definitely seems to be better at high speed. 750kg AUW in 20m class probably doesn't help them either, or at least not with 16sqm of wing. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Matt Gage m...@knightschallenge.com wrote: Sadly, whilst it

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First flight in the next 12 months. Available as pure glider/ Jet Sustainer and BinderSolo powered self launcher. http://hphuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TwinShark_20m_p4.pdf A new self-launching Shark 304MS will be delivered

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Harry
any time soon. Bernard Eckey will have another excellent glider to market. He may need it when the latest Ventus is released, Harry Medlicott From: Robert Izatt Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Derek Ruddock
-soaring] World comps in Finland Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First flight in the next 12 months. Available as pure glider/ Jet Sustainer and BinderSolo powered self launcher. http://hphuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TwinShark_20m_p4.pdf A new self

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matthew Scutter
Is the wing area wrong in that document or the polar? Because 800kg/15.38sqm (52kg/sqm) does not match the 800kg @ 46kg/sqm on the polar. On 11 Jul 2014 08:42, Robert Izatt thebunyipboo...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First flight in the next

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
Thanks for that Matthew. The 52 is correct. I will advise the factory about the polar/weight number on the brochure. Cheers Rob On 11/07/2014, at 11:46 AM, Matthew Scutter wrote: Is the wing area wrong in that document or the polar? Because 800kg/15.38sqm (52kg/sqm) does not match the 800kg

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Robert Izatt Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 8:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread Robert Izatt
Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your product here but we don't need the Yesterday I was asked to translate the report on the 20m Multi-seat clas excuse to do so. Rob Izatt On 10/07/2014, at 2:02 AM, Future Aviation wrote: Good morning all Yesterday I was

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread glider driver
I've looked pretty hard; but can't seem to find the comp report on the website... any hints on where to find it please? Apologies if I am missing something! Thanks, Caleb On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Robert Izatt thebunyipboo...@gmail.com wrote: Bernard I personally don't have a problem

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread DMcD
Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your product here And surely if it is not a promotion, it would be correct to mention the complete domination of the 20M class by Arcus gliders except for this lone ASG 32 and a DG-1000M? D

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread Mark Newton
On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Robert Izatt thebunyipboo...@gmail.com wrote: Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your product here but we don't need the Yesterday I was asked to translate the report on the 20m Multi-seat clas excuse to do so. Rob Izatt We’ve had

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread DMcD
unlike the grotesque Arcus Well it's difficult to see in the pic, but I guess that the ASG-32 is entirely devoid of those terrible speed robbing bumps. Still, they don't seem to rob that much speed. D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list

Re: [Aus-soaring] [World comps in Finland

2014-06-24 Thread Gary Stevenson
Hi Mandy, Many thanks for your input re how to link up with the current state of play. I don't recall the exact details, but a few years ago, I do recall that for Bruce Taylor, the penny dropped, and he stated that (from hard learned experience), he was not from that point on, prepared to fly in