Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-22 Thread DMcD
The Wright's predecessors and contemporaries may have called them 'Aerodromes' but they didn't fly. Errr. Curtis, a contemporary of the Wrights was a member of the AEA along with Bell and others. Bell referred to their aeroplanes as Aerodromes and so did Curtis and they flew very well, better

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-21 Thread MIKE BORGELT
At 03:54 PM 16/01/2012, you wrote: Wilbur and Orville invented the airplane so that's what it should be called IMO. I'll go along with ramp too. They did what? I can't think of one thing that they invented. Perhaps they were the first to achieve sustainable, controlled, powered flight.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-21 Thread Tim Shirley
I rather think that what the Wright Brothers actually invented was the aileron, or its immediate predecessor. Everything else about the basic aeroplane that they flew was pretty much already known and in existence. One reason they came up with the idea was probably that they were bicycle

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-18 Thread Peter F Bradshaw
@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley Did the CASA official provide proof of his own identity? I think that you would be within your rights to at least record the name of the officer doing the ramp check and what

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-16 Thread Robert Hart
On 16/01/12 17:53, DMcD wrote: As glider pilots, we should avoid the lot and support Lillienthal because all the motorise aeroplanes would eventually run out of gas while, given the right conditions, Lillienthal could have soared for days. I would like to put in a word for George Cayley here -

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
John, thanks for the heads up. We had the CASA Drugs and Alcohol tester turn up on a Wednesday to test us, finding the gate closed they phoned the contact number to find out that we usually only operate on weekends; 2 minutes of pre trip Internet research would have saved them a trip.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Pam Kurstjens
, 16 January 2012 5:00 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley John, thanks for the heads up. We had the CASA Drugs and Alcohol tester turn up on a Wednesday to test us, finding the gate closed

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Texler, Michael
Did the CASA official provide proof of his own identity? I think that you would be within your rights to at least record the name of the officer doing the ramp check and what transpired in case anything went pear shaped. In today's age, how would you know you're not dealing with someone who

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
;-) - Original Message - From: Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley Did the CASA official provide

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread MIKE BORGELT
;-) - Original Message - From: Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley Did the CASA official provide

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley We could use the British apron or tarmac both of which are also inappropriate in describing that area. CASA probably uses ramp because

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Jim Staniforth
-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley We could use the British apron or tarmacĀ  both of which are also inappropriate in describing that area. CASA probably uses ramp because that's what the FAA calls

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread DMcD
Wilbur and Orville invented the airplane so that's what it should be called IMO. I'll go along with ramp too. They did what? I can't think of one thing that they invented. Perhaps they were the first to achieve sustainable, controlled, powered flight. Maybe I can think of things they

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Scott Penrose
Actually they did invent one thing. The three axis control system. Unlike their popular success - powered flight, the 3 axis system was invented by them a year earlier. The modern 3 axis has one variation on their patent, it uses ailerons instead of warping the wings. Like all inventions, each

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread Dennis
And that is a BIG perhaps they were the first to achieve sustainable flight. They certainly worked hard at becoming know as the fathers of aviation tho. http://www.deepsky.com/~firstflight/Pages/gpage6.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Pearse And Pearse made everything on his plane,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Ramp Check on Tug at Beverley

2012-01-15 Thread DMcD
Actually they did invent one thing. The three axis control system. Unlike their popular success - powered flight, the 3 axis system was invented by them a year earlier. The modern 3 axis has one variation on their patent, it uses ailerons instead of warping the wings. I think you are right