Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/6/05, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ajith / Folks1) Please can we do a release ASAP? The core changes (like renaming to AxisService) mean that it would be good to have a stable build with these in, plus the latest ADB. +1 IMHO cutting another 0.x release soon seems to be make th

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-07 Thread Paul Fremantle
SanjivaThe stockquote service is a must - its SOAP101. I can take or leave the rest. I agree they are tufty maybe we could pressure XMethods to upgrade a little!!PaulOn 11/7/05, Jim Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Funny you mention the Google search service - there is some funkinessthere too

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-07 Thread Jim Murphy
Funny you mention the Google search service - there is some funkiness there too. We found over a year or so ago that the WSDL was indeed rpc/enc written in terms of XSD types - no "style points" but certainly legal. But after invoking the service notice the responses are actually "xsi:type"-ed from

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-07 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 14:17 +, Paul Fremantle wrote: > Anne > > I agree with Salesforce.com, ebay, UDDI. The XMethods ones I meant Paul, I looked at the first one and it uses soapenc:arrayType. I'm -1 for requiring that to work; that's just flat out crufty and old. I know I'm going to get be

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-07 Thread Paul Fremantle
Anne   I agree with Salesforce.com, ebay, UDDI. The XMethods ones I meant are:     XMethods Demo Services  Usage Guidelines Style   Service Name Description Implementation RPC Try It XSpace Store SOAP Envelopes in a shared space Glue RPC Try It XMethods Query Service

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-07 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 07:12 -0500, Anne Thomas Manes wrote: > I caution you regarding the "XMethods core services". As far as I'm > aware, XMethods hasn't vetted any of the services listed on the site, > and many contain invalid WSDL. I recommend that you stick with > commercial WSDLs (Google, Amaz

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-07 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
I caution you regarding the "XMethods core services". As far as I'm aware, XMethods hasn't vetted any of the services listed on the site, and many contain invalid WSDL. I recommend that you stick with commercial WSDLs (Google, Amazon, Yahoo, EBay, Salesforce.com, UDDI, etc.) as well as whatever int

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Fremantle
Ajith / Folks1) Please can we do a release ASAP? The core changes (like renaming to AxisService) mean that it would be good to have a stable build with these in, plus the latest ADB.2) The obvious list of services to support are: All of Google, Amazon, Yahoo, XMethods core services (stockquote, cur

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-05 Thread Ajith Ranabahu
Hi All, It's partly my fault that ADB did not get tested with Amazon or Google or any other widely used WSDLs. However ADB does not understand SOAP encoding (!) and the Google service cannot be directly codegned. One other limitation of ADB is that it does not support imports (yet) which I intend t

RE: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-05 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 13:34 -0500, Tom Jordahl wrote > What I would hope is that ADB can be used with a typical WSDL found in > the wild – UDDI, Amazon.com, Google, etc, etc. If it doesn’t work > with the WSDL users are likely to want to consume, then they will just > walk away. Or maybe they wi

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-04 Thread Thilina Gunarathne
- *From:* Eran Chinthaka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:06 PM *To:* axis-dev@ws.apache.org *Subject:* Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release One more comment. Can you all remember that we agreed to have a "Simple" data binding framework for Axi

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-04 Thread Eran Chinthaka
ct:* Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release One more comment. Can you all remember that we agreed to have a "Simple" data binding framework for Axis2, during the second Axis2 f2f ? We were very clear that we didn't want a full data binding tool. (Glen, Dims you all were there too.)

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-04 Thread Thilina Gunarathne
9:06 PM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release   One more comment.Can you all remember that we agreed to have a "Simple" data binding framework for Axis2, during the second Axis2 f2f ? We were very clear that we didn't want a full data binding tool.

RE: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-03 Thread Tom Jordahl
, 2005 9:06 PM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release   One more comment. Can you all remember that we agreed to have a "Simple" data binding framework for Axis2, during the second Axis2 f2f ? We were very clear that we didn't want a full data bind

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-02 Thread Eran Chinthaka
One more comment. Can you all remember that we agreed to have a "Simple" data binding framework for Axis2, during the second Axis2 f2f ? We were very clear that we didn't want a full data binding tool. (Glen, Dims you all were there too.) So Tom, its unfair for you to expect *everything* from

RE: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-02 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 14:56 -0500, Tom Jordahl wrote: > If users are trying to use the data binding and it doesn’t meet their > needs, how can it be a slippery slope? Where would you draw the line Tom? Substitution groups? Attribute groups? Or would you not draw a line at all? If we do all of XML

RE: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-02 Thread Tom Jordahl
If users are trying to use the data binding and it doesn’t meet their needs, how can it be a slippery slope?   -- Tom Jordahl     From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:02 AM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Axis2] Road Map

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-11-01 Thread Ajith Ranabahu
Hi paul, Yep, I agree that we should push people to use ADB and give their feedback. However my impression of ADB is that it's a 'simple' databinding framework which means that it'll inevitably lack full support for schema! if we push it too much there will be too much expectations and we might end

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
Yes EranI think it is important we get people testing ADB and giving us feedback.PaulOn 10/31/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:+1 for a new release with the ADB stuff done & working. Sanjiva.On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 08:47 +0600, Ajith Ranabahu wrote:> Hi All,> Agreed. Will do it ASAP

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-10-31 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
+1 for a new release with the ADB stuff done & working. Sanjiva. On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 08:47 +0600, Ajith Ranabahu wrote: > Hi All, > Agreed. Will do it ASAP with right comments in the code and a seperate > piece of documentation. > > On 11/1/05, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-10-31 Thread Ajith Ranabahu
Hi All, Agreed. Will do it ASAP with right comments in the code and a seperate piece of documentation.On 11/1/05, Eran Chinthaka < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 point taken. Thanks. I will create a wiki for the next release and add the point. But still I can't see any response from others. D

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-10-31 Thread Eran Chinthaka
+1 point taken. Thanks. I will create a wiki for the next release and add the point. But still I can't see any response from others. Does this mean we do not need a release ? Or is it natural when I ask about releases, people stay silent ;-) Chinthaka Paul Fremantle wrote: Eran I'd lik

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
EranI'd like to see the ADB documented, fully tested and I'd like to be able to make it work myself!PaulOn 10/31/05, Steve Loughran < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Eran Chinthaka wrote: > Hi all,>> We have advanced a lot since our last release. Especially we are almost> done with doc/lit handling both w

Re: [Axis2] Road Map for next release

2005-10-31 Thread Steve Loughran
Eran Chinthaka wrote: Hi all, We have advanced a lot since our last release. Especially we are almost done with doc/lit handling both with ADB and XMLBeans. And we had numerous bug fixing also. And I know that we are not done with RPC stuff, yet. We know that there are lot of people trying eve