Actually, let me put this another way ...
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:49:43AM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> I just want to note that at some point, many developer don't want to
> think in terms of HTTP or SOAP, but rather in terms like
> getQuantityInStock(PartNumber="123").
Are you sure it's that a
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:49:43AM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Mark Baker wrote:
> > You guys are losing me.
>
> OK, I will try to speak in one syl a ble words this time. [*]
Hey old man, don't taunt the n00b!
> > Sam's suggestion to punt the retrieval of the response is fine from
> > this POV, bu
> > Well, on the client side, it is our job to do whatever triggers the
> > generation of the response, receive it, and then hand it up to the
> > user in whatever form they like (i.e. SOAPEnvelope for doc/lit,
> > perhaps a deserialized Object for RPC). In the current case, "what
> > trigg
Mark Baker wrote:
> You guys are losing me.
OK, I will try to speak in one syl a ble words this time. [*]
> A developer has to know that a GET is being performed, the same way
> they have to know that any method is being invoked, because it has
> meaning specific to the task they're trying to ac
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 14:15
Subject: Re: SOAP 1.2, GET, and Axis
> Hey Glen,
> Did you get my reply[1] to Stuart, and Noah's "+1"?
>
> The met
You guys are losing me.
A developer has to know that a GET is being performed, the same way
they have to know that any method is being invoked, because it has
meaning specific to the task they're trying to accomplish.
Sam's suggestion to punt the retrieval of the response is fine from
this POV,
Glen Daniels wrote:
>
> Well, on the client side, it is our job to do whatever triggers the
> generation of the response, receive it, and then hand it up to the
> user in whatever form they like (i.e. SOAPEnvelope for doc/lit,
> perhaps a deserialized Object for RPC). In the current case, "w
Hi Sam!
> The name of the MEP is SOAP Response. There may not have been a SOAP
> Request, the request may have been made out of band, etc. My
> point is
> that the MEP is defined to mean that we are simply to process the
> response. It is somebody else's job to handle what happens
> befo
Glen Daniels wrote:
>
>> How about Call.setOperationName( "GET" ) or similar?
>
> Bear with me here, but this is one of the problems I have with this
> whole new MEP thing. GET/POST/etc. are *HTTP* methods. Yes, it's
> called "WebMethod" in SOAP 1.2, but we all know that it's really
> abo
Hey Glen,
On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:56:23PM -0400, Glen Daniels wrote:
> > How about Call.setOperationName( "GET" ) or similar?
>
> Bear with me here, but this is one of the problems I have with this whole new MEP
>thing. GET/POST/etc. are *HTTP* methods.
Sure, but they're the same as any ot
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 10:47:58PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> > Glen Daniels: "when GET is specified"... what Axis API would you
> > envision for this semantic?
>
> How about Call.setOperationName( "GET" ) or similar?
Bear with me here, but this is one of the problems I have with this whole ne
On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 10:47:58PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Glen Daniels: "when GET is specified"... what Axis API would you
> envision for this semantic?
How about Call.setOperationName( "GET" ) or similar?
MB
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Mark Baker wrote:
>
> I think it should be ok to default the MEP to .../soap-response/ when
> GET is specified as the Web method, since that's all SOAP 1.2 specifies.
> But the developer should be able to specify a different MEP too.
Glen Daniels: "when GET is specified"... what Axis API would y
On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 11:36:36AM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> The light bulb is starting to flicker. Some brainstorming to follow:
Alright, now we're cookin'!
> At a relatively low level on the client side, you are correct that some
> form of Call.setTargetEndpointAddress() coupled with an API w
Mark Baker wrote:
>
> I understand what you're getting at, but I think you're missing the
> point of the new MEP;
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part2/#soapresmep
>
> The idea is that HTTP GET can be used to retrieve a SOAP envelope.
> So if we have a URI for a resource;
>
> http://some-host.
On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 01:06:47AM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> What is needed, in my mind, is something analogous to
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.13.1 . Can you
> imagine how much less useful HTML FORMS would be if there was no
> standard means of representation of c
Mark Baker wrote:
>
>> No standard means of representation of arguments or method names is
>> provided by this specification.
>
> Does that matter?
>
> From the client POV, the developer provides the URI via
> Call.setTargetEndpointAddress(). GET is invoked directly on that, the
> same wa
"Glen Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> 2) For now, simply exposing the switch is enough to get us in line with
the spec, and we leave it completely up to the developer to decide how they
want to form their URLs - to us it's just a String pointing to an endpoint.
>
> --Glen
Hmm. Given that
Hi guys!
> > Not anything concrete yet. I'm still familiarizing myself
> with Axis,
> > as I've never used it. I'm here because Roy suggested I
> drop you guys a
> > line.
>
> Cool!
+1. Welcome, Mark.
> >>While the reference to the WebMethodFeature does mention
> GET, it seems
> >>to b
Hey.
On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:12:57PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> > Hmm, really? That's a concern. Would you mind raising a Last Call
> > comment to that effect?
>
> To be honest, I don't understand the politics and stakeholders involved
> in this discussion.
Ah, nevermind that! Just send a
Mark Baker wrote:
> Sam wrote;
>
>>axis-dev would be a good place to discuss such plans. Got any? ;-)
>
> Not anything concrete yet. I'm still familiarizing myself with Axis,
> as I've never used it. I'm here because Roy suggested I drop you guys a
> line.
Cool!
>>While the reference to th
Sam wrote;
> axis-dev would be a good place to discuss such plans. Got any? ;-)
Not anything concrete yet. I'm still familiarizing myself with Axis,
as I've never used it. I'm here because Roy suggested I drop you guys a
line.
> While the reference to the WebMethodFeature does mention GET, i
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