Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Copyright and the Copy Machine

2014-02-10 Thread João Ventura
And on this note, it should be fair warning to everyone that I believe the CCA books are (c) CCA. Note that this is my personal opinion, as I am in no way associated with the CCA. I only have a (very) similar case of a newspaper published in Évora in 1897-1902 by my great-great-grandfather

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-10 Thread João Ventura
Manuel Costa, I hate to contradict everyone before, but they are only right for any certificate applying up to 1913. The 'Registo Civil' is simply unable to provide a certificate for a book that they no longer have. If the books are from 1900, they'll be in the Public Library of Ponta Delgada,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website

2014-02-10 Thread João Ventura
Hello all, I was told today that the 'Ribeira Quente' books are online here: http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/pageview=arg Feel free to go there. Anticipating some of the followup questions: Q1. Why in this site and not the CCA? A1: I don't know. Q2: Will

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hello Joao, It appears that the records are from NS Estrela from 1896-1911. The site is awkward at most to view the records. It you enlarge the record you can view only a small part of the record and can’t adjust the picture to see all if the record. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel

[AZORES-Genealogy] More Vila Franca do Campo Records online

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hello all, The marriage records from Sao Miguel Arcanjo are on line this morning along with some indices. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit

[AZORES-Genealogy] More Vila Franca do Campo Records online

2014-02-10 Thread mnk
Yippee! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records

2014-02-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Tony Thank you for the link, but there are none available online for Sao Jorge. Now at least I know where to look for other islands. Are these books available on any microfilms? Would they be with the baptisms? Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Anthony Soares

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records

2014-02-10 Thread rcapodc
Marilyn, I’ve never seen any for Sao Jorge. What I have seen though, is that the legits are written in with baptisms and sometime the marriage of the parents. I have my own greats that had 2 children before they married (were cousins so then were awaiting despinsation) and then when they

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website

2014-02-10 Thread aportugee
Joao; Do you know what type of information would be in the books below? Thanks in advance, Sam in MazNotes of Notaries books (42 books, covering 1680 to 1834); Vereações books (20 books, covering 1682 to 1838); Board of Registration of Books (17 books, covering 1603 to 1835). Sent from

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
I don't think you meant Ribeira Quente (over in Povoacao). I think you meant Ribeira Grande. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation)

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GGGGrandfather

2014-02-10 Thread Maria Roque
Pam, I pointed out Francisca dos Anjos was born in S. Pedro Francisca Ignacia was born in S. Roque Cannot be same people then On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:40:33 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote: The marriage is of Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca Ignacia the Baptism shows Roque the son of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Marilyn T, The legit books are really hit and miss. I've only encountered a few here or there. Seen it written more in the margins. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records

2014-02-10 Thread Erica Botelho
Tony, I have her age on the passport application and ship’s passenger list from her emigration to Hawaii. I have her birth year narrowed down to 1838 or 1839. My struggle is finding the correct parish. Could all those hard to decipher words after her name on her children’s baptism records

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GGGGrandfather

2014-02-10 Thread Maria Roque
Cheri, Forgetting Roque Rodrigues and his parents for now One of Roque Rodrigues sons is the father of my ggrandfather No need for DNA to show Karen is a cousin of some degree On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:04:52 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Maria R, The Francisca in question is the same

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website

2014-02-10 Thread João Ventura
Hi Cheri, Yes, totally right. Sorry about that.. I still see no reason for these books to be in the Azores University website. There's no mention of any special status on the catalog page for Ribeira Grande: http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1021134 João Ventura http://tombo.pt On

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Theotonio Furtado Jacintha Flora

2014-02-10 Thread Maria Lima
Hi Pat: I. Going to send this through theAzores list because one never knows how it ties in with other lines. It's how I found you! Yay! I have more names of. Children born to Joao Furtado and Marianna Augusta de Lima: After JACINTA, born November 1865 they had: JOSE B 29 November 1869

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website

2014-02-10 Thread João Ventura
Hi, You really shouldn't have translated it for me.. The only one that I can answer is the 'Vereações' book. These would be stuff regarding the day-to-day management of the city hall. For the 'Notaries' it probably is related to the local 'notary'. But you already knew that.. I'm completely

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records

2014-02-10 Thread Anthony Soares
Erica, Those hard to decipher words will tell where the the child is being baptized and may also include where she is from. If you post the link to the most legible of the records you have someone should be able to help you translate. Quite often the Parish and Freguesia are abbreviated . For

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter

[AZORES-Genealogy] Matriz Vila Franca weddings online

2014-02-10 Thread Marcio Borba
Just letting you know that Matriz de Vila Franca weddings are online. But the years 1705 to 1743 shows this  404 - File or directory not found. The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.   Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin

2014-02-10 Thread Erica Botelho
I am trying to determine the parish of baptism for Maria dos Anjos. According to the passport application and passenger manifest from the family's emigration to Hawaii, she was born in 1838 or 1839. The baptismal records for all six of her children (that I have found so far) have incognito for the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Family

2014-02-10 Thread ggervais1...@centurylink.net
I am researching my family from Rabo de Peixe and Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada. Can someone tell me if any of these places are on line as of yet? Also did people who came by whaling ships, did they have passports? Thanks Geneva -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Erica, audiosourceinc at qwestoffice.net After looking more closely at Maria's record, I realized that her record is the easiest to read, but does not include the longer description of Maria dos Anjos' name. Here is a link for another daughter, Angela #42, that has the longer phrase

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Geneva, If you see it on the CCA site, it's online. If you don't see it, it's not online. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ Don't know about the whaling ship thing. I only know about a web site within the New Bedford Public Library that lists crewmen. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin

2014-02-10 Thread kpsreading
This post says she is from the Parish of São Pedro. The second post for Angela seems to say that she is from Nossa Senhora das Candeirio of Candelaria. Hope that helps a little anyway. Howard Keith Pimental From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Erica

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Hermano C. Pires
I have seen it in many records. I never though much about it, but it makes sense that the marriage be blessed after consumation! The last part is my own thought on it :)) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:42:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I have no idea what is being said. The part after Maria Victorina's name. I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Thank goodness for color scans! What is this purple stuff on the pages? http://goo.gl/Qi9m4i -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Did they wash the page with something? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Thank goodness for color scans! What is this purple stuff on the pages? http://goo.gl/Qi9m4i -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
The wash is applied with a brush and is uniform. This is something that looks like it permeated the books...dampness, a kind of bug...I don't know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Somehow I convinced myself it was a baptism kind of makes me feel dumb. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 7:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com

[AZORES-Genealogy] Praia do Norte, Faial death 1873, born in Capelo

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Number 16 on the left: http://goo.gl/Me3DPT Third line from the end it states that Ignacia Maria was a native of Capelo (on Faial), had no will, and something 7 kids. Curious about the 7 kids and what may be the hyphenated word before the sete. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Praia do Norte, Faial death 1873, born in Capelo

2014-02-10 Thread Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto
Hello Cheri, It seems ti me that the word is deixando sete filhos. It means that she died and left 7 kids. The word deixando (verb: deixar) is not hyphenated, it is just separated because of the end of the line. Best regards, Geraldo 2014-02-11 0:34 GMT-02:00 Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Tony S, There are some pages that have clearly been wet. I don't know if it was the humidity, it rained and the books got wet or what. The weird thing is that it's purple! Maybe there's purple mold in the Azores?? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-10 Thread Anthony Soares
Cheri, I believe color depends a lot on the source of nutrient and age of, I think it is referred to as a colony, and probably species too. I have see some wild looking molds in other countries. Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family

2014-02-10 Thread Cheryl Lawrence
To check the crew of a whaling ship, try going to the New Bedford whaling museum website. Www.whalingmuseum.org You can check by whaling ship name, or by the name of a crew member. On Feb 10, 2014 6:19 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Geneva, If you see it on the CCA site, it's

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Vila Franca do Campo Records online

2014-02-10 Thread Paul
Someone wake me up when they get to Ribeira Grande. ZZ, Paul G. On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:08:43 AM UTC-5, mnk wrote: Yippee! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at