[AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change
Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mother Name Change
Oh and also am I reading the abbreviated last name right as Azevedo Machado? On Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:38:39 AM UTC-4, Eddie Machado wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mother Name Change
Here is one of the others: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P194.html On Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:38:39 AM UTC-4, Eddie Machado wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mother Name Change
The first record is not as clear as the second but I see Anna Isabel and I think de Almeida in the second record it is clearly Anna Isabel de Almeida. Anna is hyphenated with An on the first line and na on the second. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eddie Machado Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:37 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mother Name Change Here is one of the others: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-17 99-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P194.html On Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:38:39 AM UTC-4, Eddie Machado wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-17 99-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change
Eddie, Be VERY careful with this family! There are at least two Manuel d'Azevedo Machados in the time period having children. One wife, mine, is Isabel Maria and yours is Ana Isabel, I believe. I am at work at present and don't have my data in front of me but I do know that I had to trace both families to keep them straight. It's so easy to get them confused. To make matters worse, when you go to the marriages there are 3 marriages of people with similar names. One, can't remember which, even has the Priest writing a note in the margin about the mix ups! I will try to send you what I have on your line when I get home and can figure out how to send it from my PAF program. I know that I have a list of the kids with spouses. I don't have all of the marriage dates for them but the names at lease. Rosemarie Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change
I am actually looking for Maria Isabella. Parents of Joao d'Azevedo Machado. On Nov 1, 2012 12:28 PM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Eddie, Be VERY careful with this family! There are at least two Manuel d'Azevedo Machados in the time period having children. One wife, mine, is Isabel Maria and yours is Ana Isabel, I believe. I am at work at present and don't have my data in front of me but I do know that I had to trace both families to keep them straight. It's so easy to get them confused. To make matters worse, when you go to the marriages there are 3 marriages of people with similar names. One, can't remember which, even has the Priest writing a note in the margin about the mix ups! I will try to send you what I have on your line when I get home and can figure out how to send it from my PAF program. I know that I have a list of the kids with spouses. I don't have all of the marriage dates for them but the names at lease. Rosemarie Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa
Diane D, It's probably her. Do you find any other Victorina (Rosa or Constancia) having babies with another Cristiano Machado (or Machado Pereira)? If you don't find another Cristiano/Vitorina couple, then that's your Vitorina's obit. You can also look for Cristiano's 2nd marriage and see what they call Vitorina (he'll be a widower of Vitorina ___). You have her on all the kids' baptisms as Vitorina Constancia? What about all of her biological grandkids? How do they list her at their baptism? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA
Ally, Keep me posted if you find any information from the church. My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto, was married in San Mateo County and other than that information I have no other connections to her Furtado's. It wasn't until I met a cousin online who lives Texas who happened to additional information from her grandmother about our mutual 2nd great grandmother and provided me with her full last name of Furtado Jorge do Souto. Once I had this, everything fell into place. As I mentioned in my earlier post I've traced this line as far back as I can in the village of Salao, Faial, Azores. The only place I currently have a stumbling block is from the Azores her to the USA to the time she married. Good luck on your search, Robin Borba Besotes On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-7, Ally wrote: Robin ~ Sorry to answer you so late. We had carpet laid and I had to empty two rooms of pure junk collection! I'm having a field day tossing, sorting, and donating.and then I found this picture. The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my Father's Godmother. So, that would be her married name. The picture is WWII era, maybe 1942. She would be at least 30 years older than my Father. By looking at the picture she is in her 60's or 70's. My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton. So I'm guessing that his christening was soon after his birth. I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton. There is a Mary, but she would be way too young to fit this picture. The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960. So far no luck. But I have written the Catholic Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his name. I'll let you know what I find. Ally -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa
Diane, A genealogist may have some recommendations but I would start by searching for her birth record to confirm parents. Check for this couple's children's birth records starting from Sep 16th, date of her death which could have been due to childbirth. You may be able to obtain information from godparents names that could point in the right direction. Also their marriage record if you don't already have it. Middle names are a marker but not always accurate. I have a ggmother that ended up with 3 different middle names. Margaret On 11/1/12, Diane ddon...@bigpond.net.au wrote: thank you Margaret. I am even now more confused because my Victorina Rosa, who died around this time and was married to Christiano Machado Pereira, would have been 28 when she died and she belonged to that parish. So all the information is there except Constancia second name. She was Victorina Rosa on her marriage record but I have found other records where the women have been known by different middle names It's a bit of a mystery but I am still suspicious about this one. Everything else seems to fit and I can't find her anywhere else. The Pereira could have been left off Christiano's name because he picked that up somewhere along the line. Victorina's father was a Machado too. On Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:50:36 UTC+10:30, Mara wrote: Diane, On the 16th day of the month of September of the year 1853 passed away Victoria Constancia who was the wife of Christiano Machado with all the sacraments at 28 years of age more or less. Margaret Vicente On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Diane ddo...@bigpond.net.aujavascript: wrote: I know that my GGGrandmother from Urzelina died somewhere between 1853 and 1863. I have searched the registers many times and the only record that shows the names of her and her husband in any format is the following. 3rd par on right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858_item1/P45.html Her husband was Christiano Machado Pereira. This Victorina seems to have a different middle name but the rest all adds up - parish etc. and the names are relatively uncommon. She had a child in February of 1853 and this death is in September I think. Christiano remarried in 1863 to her sister Perpetua. Can anyone please confirm whether this is the likely record I have been looking for. If not, would it appear in another place when all the family's other records are in Urzelina? thank you Diane Donnon -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Margaret M Vicente -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Margaret M Vicente -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mother Name Change
Maria daughter of Manoel Azevedo Machado and his wife Anna Isabel de Almada, all native and memvers of this church of Nossa Senhora da Neves, Place of Norte Grande born on february 6, 1805 ... Jose daughter of Manoel Azevedo Machado and his wife Ana Isabel all natives and members f the church of Nossa Senhora da Neves, place of Norte Grando, born on feb 9, 1806 It is not unusual for women to have no last name. The women's last name can usually be found on the marrige record where the parents are named. Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50929d33d00c31d334537st03vuc -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line
I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa att. Diane
It is your Vitorina. It was common for women to used diferent second names. I have seen this way to often to say it is unusual. I read her age as being 28 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 31/10/12, Diane ddon...@bigpond.net.au escreveu: De: Diane ddon...@bigpond.net.au Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2012, 23:09 I know that my GGGrandmother from Urzelina died somewhere between 1853 and 1863. I have searched the registers many times and the only record that shows the names of her and her husband in any format is the following. 3rd par on right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858_item1/P45.html Her husband was Christiano Machado Pereira. This Victorina seems to have a different middle name but the rest all adds up - parish etc. and the names are relatively uncommon. She had a child in February of 1853 and this death is in September I think. Christiano remarried in 1863 to her sister Perpetua. Can anyone please confirm whether this is the likely record I have been looking for. If not, would it appear in another place when all the family's other records are in Urzelina? thank youDiane Donnon -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change
Sorry sent that last on via my cell phone let me clarify.. I am look for Manual d'Azevedo Machado who is married to Maria Isabel. Parents of Joao d'Azevedo Machado. I was looking for Joao's baptism when I came across Ana Isabel. That led me to ask about first names being changed. On Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:31:02 PM UTC-4, Eddie Machado wrote: I am actually looking for Maria Isabella. Parents of Joao d'Azevedo Machado. On Nov 1, 2012 12:28 PM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Eddie, Be VERY careful with this family! There are at least two Manuel d'Azevedo Machados in the time period having children. One wife, mine, is Isabel Maria and yours is Ana Isabel, I believe. I am at work at present and don't have my data in front of me but I do know that I had to trace both families to keep them straight. It's so easy to get them confused. To make matters worse, when you go to the marriages there are 3 marriages of people with similar names. One, can't remember which, even has the Priest writing a note in the margin about the mix ups! I will try to send you what I have on your line when I get home and can figure out how to send it from my PAF program. I know that I have a list of the kids with spouses. I don't have all of the marriage dates for them but the names at lease. Rosemarie Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change
Their first names don't usually change. If any changes to their name was during confirmation. What mostly likely happen was a mistake by the priest writting the record or couples with similar names. Can you paste the link to Joao de Azevedo Machado marriage record and any children. (you can you send it directly to my email adress) Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Eddie Machado avidedito...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 18:31 Sorry sent that last on via my cell phone let me clarify.. I am look for Manual d'Azevedo Machado who is married to Maria Isabel. Parents of Joao d'Azevedo Machado. I was looking for Joao's baptism when I came across Ana Isabel. That led me to ask about first names being changed. On Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:31:02 PM UTC-4, Eddie Machado wrote:I am actually looking for Maria Isabella. Parents of Joao d'Azevedo Machado. On Nov 1, 2012 12:28 PM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Eddie, Be VERY careful with this family! There are at least two Manuel d'Azevedo Machados in the time period having children. One wife, mine, is Isabel Maria and yours is Ana Isabel, I believe. I am at work at present and don't have my data in front of me but I do know that I had to trace both families to keep them straight. It's so easy to get them confused. To make matters worse, when you go to the marriages there are 3 marriages of people with similar names. One, can't remember which, even has the Priest writing a note in the margin about the mix ups! I will try to send you what I have on your line when I get home and can figure out how to send it from my PAF program. I know that I have a list of the kids with spouses. I don't have all of the marriage dates for them but the names at lease. Rosemarie Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR- VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/ SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799- 1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel
Great. I have 6 children for Simao da Costa and Maria Franco. One of them being your Amaro, b. in Matriz, Nordeste, Jan. 18. 1689 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws escreveu: De: EResendes eman...@resendes.ws Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 17:43 I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote:I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change
Hey Marcio, Here is the link to Joao d'Azevedo Machado and Maria Constancia son Joao: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1825-1839_item1/P149.html Here is the link to the Marriage with translation below: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1812-1847/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1812-1847_item1/P163.html in the twenty ninth day of the month of October of the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty five in the morning in this Parochial Church of N. Senhora das Neves of the place of Norte Grande of the District of the Villa of the Vellas of this Island of S Jorge, having proceeded with diligence of the current style to discover any impediment were given dispensation to the 4th grade of consanguinity (fourth cousins) I fulfilled the order of the Reverend Ouvidor of the District Joze Ignacio Soraes in the presence of the Reverend Cura of this same Church Manoel Joaquim of the Silveira, and myself Jorge d' Azevedo. e Machado that signed as witness Joao Teixeira Machado, were solemly married by the words of Ecclesio Judge, João d' Azevedo Machado, son of Manuel Azevedo Machado and his wife Maria Isabel de Jesus to Maria Constancia d’Azevedo daughter of Antonio Machado Alves and his wife Thereza de Sigueira all native of this stated Parish in the presence of the of Reverendo Cura Joao Teixeira Vieira on 29 October 1825 The Vicar Jorge deAzevedo e Machado On Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:41:03 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: Their first names don't usually change. If any changes to their name was during confirmation. What mostly likely happen was a mistake by the priest writting the record or couples with similar names. Can you paste the link to Joao de Azevedo Machado marriage record and any children. (you can you send it directly to my email adress) Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *qui, 1/11/12, Eddie Machado avided...@gmail.com javascript:*escreveu: De: Eddie Machado avided...@gmail.com javascript: Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mother Name Change Para: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 18:31 Sorry sent that last on via my cell phone let me clarify.. I am look for Manual d'Azevedo Machado who is married to Maria Isabel. Parents of Joao d'Azevedo Machado. I was looking for Joao's baptism when I came across Ana Isabel. That led me to ask about first names being changed. On Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:31:02 PM UTC-4, Eddie Machado wrote: I am actually looking for Maria Isabella. Parents of Joao d'Azevedo Machado. On Nov 1, 2012 12:28 PM, rcap...@redshift.comhttp://mc/compose?to=rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Eddie, Be VERY careful with this family! There are at least two Manuel d'Azevedo Machados in the time period having children. One wife, mine, is Isabel Maria and yours is Ana Isabel, I believe. I am at work at present and don't have my data in front of me but I do know that I had to trace both families to keep them straight. It's so easy to get them confused. To make matters worse, when you go to the marriages there are 3 marriages of people with similar names. One, can't remember which, even has the Priest writing a note in the margin about the mix ups! I will try to send you what I have on your line when I get home and can figure out how to send it from my PAF program. I know that I have a list of the kids with spouses. I don't have all of the marriage dates for them but the names at lease. Rosemarie Hi all, Does anyone know if there were instances of mothers changing their 1st names? Say from Anna to Maria? Am I just reading the Baptism records wrong? Or just a totally different person? Here is one record example: http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR- VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/ SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799- 1810_item1/P230.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-B-1799-1810_item1/P230.html There are others with same names were Anna is clearer. Thanks, Eddie Machado -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel Judi
Isabel was the oldest. She was born July 2 1679, in Matriz, Nordeste. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 19:05 I am a descendent of Isabel da Costa, daughter of Simao da Costa and Maria Franco, born in Nordeste. Judi Phillips Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:43:20 -0700 From: marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel To: azores@googlegroups.com Great. I have 6 children for Simao da Costa and Maria Franco. One of them being your Amaro, b. in Matriz, Nordeste, Jan. 18. 1689 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws escreveu: De: EResendes eman...@resendes.ws Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 17:43 I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa
I don't know where I came up with 24, its clear 28 as Margaret said. Isabella On Oct 31, 7:49 pm, BaltarFamily myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: Diane, The record is about the death of Victorina Constancia, married to Christiano Machado. She was only 24 years old when she passed on 16 of September of 1853, and was buried at the local Parish cemetery (São Matheus - Urzelina). Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Oct 31, 6:09 pm, Diane ddon...@bigpond.net.au wrote: I know that my GGGrandmother from Urzelina died somewhere between 1853 and 1863. I have searched the registers many times and the only record that shows the names of her and her husband in any format is the following. 3rd par on right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-... Her husband was Christiano Machado Pereira. This Victorina seems to have a different middle name but the rest all adds up - parish etc. and the names are relatively uncommon. She had a child in February of 1853 and this death is in September I think. Christiano remarried in 1863 to her sister Perpetua. Can anyone please confirm whether this is the likely record I have been looking for. If not, would it appear in another place when all the family's other records are in Urzelina? thank you Diane Donnon -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA
I'll add that it is possible that Maria Furtado did not live in Pleasanton. It's not a requirement for a godparent. Do you have any other records or stories that tie her to Pleasanton. None of my childrens godparents live in the county. Eric Edgar On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Robin Borba Besotes beso...@succeed.netwrote: Ally, Keep me posted if you find any information from the church. My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto, was married in San Mateo County and other than that information I have no other connections to her Furtado's. It wasn't until I met a cousin online who lives Texas who happened to additional information from her grandmother about our mutual 2nd great grandmother and provided me with her full last name of Furtado Jorge do Souto. Once I had this, everything fell into place. As I mentioned in my earlier post I've traced this line as far back as I can in the village of Salao, Faial, Azores. The only place I currently have a stumbling block is from the Azores her to the USA to the time she married. Good luck on your search, Robin Borba Besotes On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-7, Ally wrote: Robin ~ Sorry to answer you so late. We had carpet laid and I had to empty two rooms of pure junk collection! I'm having a field day tossing, sorting, and donating.and then I found this picture. The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my Father's Godmother. So, that would be her married name. The picture is WWII era, maybe 1942. She would be at least 30 years older than my Father. By looking at the picture she is in her 60's or 70's. My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton. So I'm guessing that his christening was soon after his birth. I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton. There is a Mary, but she would be way too young to fit this picture. The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960. So far no luck. But I have written the Catholic Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his name. I'll let you know what I find. Ally -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism
Good magination ! :))I can make out basically the same thing: Antonio son of Antonio de Mello (Melo) son of Manuel da Costa Borges and his wife Joana de Mello (Melo) and Maria da Rosa (Roza) daughter of Cristovam Vaz de Mello (Melo) and his wife Catherina (Catarina) de Moura.Hermano From: tish.me...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:12:41 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism To: Azores@googlegroups.com Hi,If possible I would like more eyes looking at this Baptism. What I have... with some imagination. Antonio, son of Antonio de Mello, son of Manoel da ? Borges and Joa? de Melo or Velho, and Maria da Rosa, daughter of (? Cristabol) Vas da Melo or Velho, and Catherina de Moura. Born on Oct. 26, 1728.This a record from Santo Espirito, Santa Maria. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa
Sorry this may have beem misleading. I meant that she was Victorina Rosa on her marriage and the baptism of her sons. Diane On Friday, 2 November 2012 07:56:54 UTC+10:30, Diane wrote: Thank you to Cheri, Marcio and Mara for your replies. I do have most of those other records and the only thing that didn't fit was Constancia. She is Rosa on her marriage and the baptism of her sons in 1850 and 1853. On her baptism and Christiano's second marriage record, she is just Victorina. The age at death on this obit is correct for my Victorina too - 28. I don't see those names appearing together anywhere else. Does the name Constancia have any significant meaning? It may have meant something to the family after she died?? Victorina may have had grandchildren born in the Azores to her second son. I haven't found them yet. My line were all born in Sydney and those records do not show grandparents. When her son Joaquim married in Sydney in 1884 (after living together for years) his parents are stated as Victoria Rosa and Christian Mitchell (Mitchell was Joaquim's new assumed surname name in Australia). I knew that his mother died when he was a child and that he had a stepmother and we still have the letters she wrote to him from Urzelina - signed off as Perpetua Rosa (she was Victorina's sister and their mother was Victorina de Jesus from Urzelina). It all seems very sad, but I too think I have the right one because there is no other Victorina obit in that time period that I can see. On further question: Was it common for couples to live together outside of marriage in those villages? This family of mine were very devout Catholics and if this is the right Victorina, it means that Christiano was single with 2 very young children for about 10 years before he remarried. Thanks again. Diane Donnon South Autralia On Friday, 2 November 2012 03:12:29 UTC+10:30, Cheri Mello wrote: Diane D, It's probably her. Do you find any other Victorina (Rosa or Constancia) having babies with another Cristiano Machado (or Machado Pereira)? If you don't find another Cristiano/Vitorina couple, then that's your Vitorina's obit. You can also look for Cristiano's 2nd marriage and see what they call Vitorina (he'll be a widower of Vitorina ___). You have her on all the kids' baptisms as Vitorina Constancia? What about all of her biological grandkids? How do they list her at their baptism? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa
I think I have just made the link that confirms that she is the same person. there is a notation in the margin of her son's baptism record and appears to be the recording of her death. Being new to this research I had not taken much notice of it before. It appears to be 16 Sept ?? which is the same date as the obit of Victorina Constancia. Can anyone please confirm the date on this notation. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855_item1/P65.html I also looked up the meaning of Constancia and found it means steadfast. thank you Diane On Friday, 2 November 2012 07:58:39 UTC+10:30, Diane wrote: Sorry this may have beem misleading. I meant that she was Victorina Rosa on her marriage and the baptism of her sons. Diane On Friday, 2 November 2012 07:56:54 UTC+10:30, Diane wrote: Thank you to Cheri, Marcio and Mara for your replies. I do have most of those other records and the only thing that didn't fit was Constancia. She is Rosa on her marriage and the baptism of her sons in 1850 and 1853. On her baptism and Christiano's second marriage record, she is just Victorina. The age at death on this obit is correct for my Victorina too - 28. I don't see those names appearing together anywhere else. Does the name Constancia have any significant meaning? It may have meant something to the family after she died?? Victorina may have had grandchildren born in the Azores to her second son. I haven't found them yet. My line were all born in Sydney and those records do not show grandparents. When her son Joaquim married in Sydney in 1884 (after living together for years) his parents are stated as Victoria Rosa and Christian Mitchell (Mitchell was Joaquim's new assumed surname name in Australia). I knew that his mother died when he was a child and that he had a stepmother and we still have the letters she wrote to him from Urzelina - signed off as Perpetua Rosa (she was Victorina's sister and their mother was Victorina de Jesus from Urzelina). It all seems very sad, but I too think I have the right one because there is no other Victorina obit in that time period that I can see. On further question: Was it common for couples to live together outside of marriage in those villages? This family of mine were very devout Catholics and if this is the right Victorina, it means that Christiano was single with 2 very young children for about 10 years before he remarried. Thanks again. Diane Donnon South Autralia On Friday, 2 November 2012 03:12:29 UTC+10:30, Cheri Mello wrote: Diane D, It's probably her. Do you find any other Victorina (Rosa or Constancia) having babies with another Cristiano Machado (or Machado Pereira)? If you don't find another Cristiano/Vitorina couple, then that's your Vitorina's obit. You can also look for Cristiano's 2nd marriage and see what they call Vitorina (he'll be a widower of Vitorina ___). You have her on all the kids' baptisms as Vitorina Constancia? What about all of her biological grandkids? How do they list her at their baptism? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism
Hi Marcio, It looks like we are related. We have to go back to Antonio de Fonte Falcão and Isabel Cabral! Your Maria and my Antonio were brother and sister. Tish On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: To me seems: Antonio, son of Antonio de Melo, son of Manuel da Costa Borges and of his wife Joana de Melo, and of Maria da Rosa, daughter of Cristovao? Vaz de Melo and of his wife Catarina de Moura. Tish! I have a question. Do you know if St. Espirito records on this period mentioned grandparents or was this one an exception? I have a gggrandfather from St. Espirito whose ancestors been traced. But I am stuck on the begining of the 1700's, since records for this parish are lost. I'm attaching his line. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *qui, 1/11/12, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com* escreveu: De: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism Para: azores@googlegroups.com Azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 19:12 Hi, If possible I would like more eyes looking at this Baptism. What I have... with some imagination. Antonio, son of Antonio de Mello, son of Manoel da ? Borges and Joa? de Melo or Velho, and Maria da Rosa, daughter of (? Cristabol) Vas da Melo or Velho, and Catherina de Moura. Born on Oct. 26, 1728. This a record from Santo Espirito, Santa Maria. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA
Eric, Funny you should mention that. The information came from my Father. Do you recall the old adobe home on Foothill Road? We drove by it all the time when I was a child, and my Father always said that it was the Alamo. I got into an argument with my 4th grade teacher, I thought he was the stupidest person alive, to think that the Alamo was fought in Texas! My Father had a unique since of humor. As soon as the church answers my letter, maybe we will know more. And that will depend on if it was her husband who was his God Father. Ally In a message dated 11/1/2012 1:46:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, noblankt...@gmail.com writes: I'll add that it is possible that Maria Furtado did not live in Pleasanton. It's not a requirement for a godparent. Do you have any other records or stories that tie her to Pleasanton. None of my childrens godparents live in the county. Eric Edgar On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Robin Borba Besotes _besotes@succeed.net_ (mailto:beso...@succeed.net) wrote: Ally, Keep me posted if you find any information from the church. My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto, was married in San Mateo County and other than that information I have no other connections to her Furtado's. It wasn't until I met a cousin online who lives Texas who happened to additional information from her grandmother about our mutual 2nd great grandmother and provided me with her full last name of Furtado Jorge do Souto. Once I had this, everything fell into place. As I mentioned in my earlier post I've traced this line as far back as I can in the village of Salao, Faial, Azores. The only place I currently have a stumbling block is from the Azores her to the USA to the time she married. Good luck on your search, Robin Borba Besotes On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-7, Ally wrote: Robin ~ Sorry to answer you so late. We had carpet laid and I had to empty two rooms of pure junk collection! I'm having a field day tossing, sorting, and donating.and then I found this picture. The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my Father's Godmother. So, that would be her married name. The picture is WWII era, maybe 1942. She would be at least 30 years older than my Father. By looking at the picture she is in her 60's or 70's. My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton. So I'm guessing that his christening was soon after his birth. I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton. There is a Mary, but she would be way too young to fit this picture. The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960. So far no luck. But I have written the Catholic Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his name. I'll let you know what I find. Ally -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA
Rick ~ No Saint Augustine's. I had wrote to them a few years ago, and the church clerk called me back and said that they no longer look up ancestors for people. She said that the Pope put a stop to information being given out without the written permission of ones Bishop. This has been a headache for the last two years. One of the items on my bucket list is to meet with my Bishop's clerk, who at the moment is on vacation. So once he returns, I will make an appointment and he will write another letter, and maybe this time, Patsy and I will get our long awaited copies. One can only hope. Ally In a message dated 10/31/2012 1:16:27 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, rfrancispimen...@comcast.net writes: I would think the church records would give the full names of the god parents. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of netadosaco...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA Robin ~ Sorry to answer you so late. We had carpet laid and I had to empty two rooms of pure junk collection! I'm having a field day tossing, sorting, and donating.and then I found this picture. The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my Father's Godmother. So, that would be her married name. The picture is WWII era, maybe 1942. She would be at least 30 years older than my Father. By looking at the picture she is in her 60's or 70's. My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton. So I'm guessing that his christening was soon after his birth. I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton. There is a Mary, but she would be way too young to fit this picture. The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960. So far no luck. But I have written the Catholic Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his name. I'll let you know what I find. Ally In a message dated 10/2/2012 9:41:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time (Me, _besotes@succeed.net_ (mailto:beso...@succeed.net) writes: Ally, Could you provide me additional information on your Furtado's in Pleasanton? My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto of Salao, Faial, Azores, born 10 Jun 1864 married Jose de Rocha Borba in Half Moon Bay, CA in 1884. They resided in San Jose, CA until her death in 1937. I've recently traced this line back to 1687 to Ana Furtado Inacia and her husband Manuel Pereira Prede. I would be happy to check my records to see if there maybe a connection to our Furtado's. Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge, Souto Islands: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores California Towns: Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, Hollister, Watsonville, Half Moon Bay (http://www.facebook.com/RobinBesotes) On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:44:11 PM UTC-7, Ally wrote: Leanne ~ Thank you for researching her on Ancestry. That was very kind of you to do the research. I have a picture of my Father with this person. I wrote Saint Augustine Catholic Church in Pleasanton and asked them if they would please give me the name of his God Mother so that both the Pleasanton Museum and I could identify her in the picture. They were kind enough to do that and now I have a name for the woman in the picture. I was hoping that someone in the group was a Furtado whose Ancestor lived in Pleasanton, during the early 1900's. Anyway, thank you again, for your time and assistance. I will add the info that you shared with the picture. Ally Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel Pinheiro Nunes ~ Faial -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism
Great :) How many children do you have for Antonio de Fonte Falcao and Isabel Cabral?I have Maria Jacome Cabral (my line), Manuel Jacome, and Antonio de Fonte Falcao (your line) married Margarida de Andrade Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 2/11/12, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 2 de Novembro de 2012, 2:03 Hi Marcio,It looks like we are related. We have to go back to Antonio de Fonte Falcão and Isabel Cabral! Your Maria and my Antonio were brother and sister. Tish On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: To me seems: Antonio, son of Antonio de Melo, son of Manuel da Costa Borges and of his wife Joana de Melo, and of Maria da Rosa, daughter of Cristovao? Vaz de Melo and of his wife Catarina de Moura. Tish! I have a question.Do you know if St. Espirito records on this period mentioned grandparents or was this one an exception?I have a gggrandfather from St. Espirito whose ancestors been traced. But I am stuck on the begining of the 1700's, since records for this parish are lost. I'm attaching his line. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism Para: azores@googlegroups.com Azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 19:12 Hi,If possible I would like more eyes looking at this Baptism. What I have... with some imagination. Antonio, son of Antonio de Mello, son of Manoel da ? Borges and Joa? de Melo or Velho, and Maria da Rosa, daughter of (? Cristabol) Vas da Melo or Velho, and Catherina de Moura. Born on Oct. 26, 1728.This a record from Santo Espirito, Santa Maria. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism
Came out perfect now. Thank you Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 2/11/12, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 2 de Novembro de 2012, 2:44 Did you get the record now?I don't know what the problem was with the email. It might have been too big? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: To me seems: Antonio, son of Antonio de Melo, son of Manuel da Costa Borges and of his wife Joana de Melo, and of Maria da Rosa, daughter of Cristovao? Vaz de Melo and of his wife Catarina de Moura. Tish! I have a question.Do you know if St. Espirito records on this period mentioned grandparents or was this one an exception?I have a gggrandfather from St. Espirito whose ancestors been traced. But I am stuck on the begining of the 1700's, since records for this parish are lost. I'm attaching his line. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Moura Borges Baptism Para: azores@googlegroups.com Azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 19:12 Hi,If possible I would like more eyes looking at this Baptism. What I have... with some imagination. Antonio, son of Antonio de Mello, son of Manoel da ? Borges and Joa? de Melo or Velho, and Maria da Rosa, daughter of (? Cristabol) Vas da Melo or Velho, and Catherina de Moura. Born on Oct. 26, 1728.This a record from Santo Espirito, Santa Maria. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA
Ally, St Augustine's is where all my children are baptized, communion etc. On their records there is nothing more than a first and last name of the godparents. I don't think it's likely that the records from 100 years ago are any different. The records for the Diocese of Oakland are kept at St Patricks Seminary in Menlo Park. You can make appointments to research there. It could be a lot of effort to find the same thing you already know. I'd try a different approach. Godparents are usually the parents family members or close family friends. Look at all the parents siblings, grandparents etc The most important information for this search is missing. You never stated you father's name, or his parents names, where they came from or when they arrived in the US. Eric Edgar On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:19 PM, netadosaco...@aol.com wrote: ** Eric, Funny you should mention that. The information came from my Father. Do you recall the old adobe home on Foothill Road? We drove by it all the time when I was a child, and my Father always said that it was the * Alamo.* I got into an argument with my 4th grade teacher, I thought he was the stupidest person alive, to think that the Alamo was fought in Texas! My Father had a *unique* since of humor. As soon as the church answers my letter, maybe we will know more. And that will depend on if it was her husband who was his God Father. Ally In a message dated 11/1/2012 1:46:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, noblankt...@gmail.com writes: I'll add that it is possible that Maria Furtado did not live in Pleasanton. It's not a requirement for a godparent. Do you have any other records or stories that tie her to Pleasanton. None of my childrens godparents live in the county. Eric Edgar On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Robin Borba Besotes beso...@succeed.net wrote: Ally, Keep me posted if you find any information from the church. My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto, was married in San Mateo County and other than that information I have no other connections to her Furtado's. It wasn't until I met a cousin online who lives Texas who happened to additional information from her grandmother about our mutual 2nd great grandmother and provided me with her full last name of Furtado Jorge do Souto. Once I had this, everything fell into place. As I mentioned in my earlier post I've traced this line as far back as I can in the village of Salao, Faial, Azores. The only place I currently have a stumbling block is from the Azores her to the USA to the time she married. Good luck on your search, Robin Borba Besotes On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-7, Ally wrote: Robin ~ Sorry to answer you so late. We had carpet laid and I had to empty two rooms of pure junk collection! I'm having a field day tossing, sorting, and donating.and then I found this picture. The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my Father's Godmother. So, that would be her married name. The picture is WWII era, maybe 1942. She would be at least 30 years older than my Father. By looking at the picture she is in her 60's or 70's. My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton. So I'm guessing that his christening was soon after his birth. I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton. There is a Mary, but she would be way too young to fit this picture. The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960. So far no luck. But I have written the Catholic Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his name. I'll let you know what I find. Ally -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my
