Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Copyright and the Copy Machine
And on this note, it should be fair warning to everyone that I believe the CCA books are (c) CCA. Note that this is my personal opinion, as I am in no way associated with the CCA. I only have a (very) similar case of a newspaper published in Évora in 1897-1902 by my great-great-grandfather where I paid for and got a release from the local Archive (the Public Library of Évora) on their copyright of this work. Even for books older than 100 years (as all of them are!). You can rightfully ask WHY? Note that it is not the book itself being copyrighted in this case. The copyright is being applied to the scanning process: those images are the ones copyrighted. You're free to take your own images and make them public domain, as the book itself isn't copyrighted anymore. Only the CCA is legally able to create a DVD with the images of all those books and sell it, or someone authorized by them to do so. João Ventura http://tombo.pt On Saturday, 8 February 2014 19:20:43 UTC+1, want2beunique wrote: I agree that the interpretation is far too strict. For what we copy and for our use in genealogy, most should not have issues. Having said this, we could run afoul depending on how the material is used and its impact on the copyright owner's ability to make money from their work. An example might be copying a several key pages of a book and posting to Ancestry.com where ancestry sells access to the pages through their pay wall. While the original use for scholarly work may fit the fair use doctrine ( http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html ), the fact that Ancestry is profiting might be an issue. Number of pages or amount is not always a measure used. Also keep in mind that the container of the information makes a difference. Taking names and dates is factual information and, depending on circumstances, should not have a copyright issue. Copying book images has a much higher potential to run afoul of copyright law than using the raw information. Here is another great article on copyright in today's Wall Street Journal. Sorry, Writers, but I'm Siding With Google's Robots http://on.wsj.com/1ebhRHI Bill On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Marilyn Thompson mar...@jmtmlt.comjavascript: wrote: I do not chime in too often, but this article from Legal Genealogists is not fully correct. The large library does have scanners, with copyright notices posted next to them. As a genealogist by degree (BA), there is a % of a copyrighted book that can be copied. I am away from my information right now, but if memory serves me right it is about 20% of a book may be copied. It is not a problem to copy a few pages of a book, so do not panic if you have made copies. Marilyn On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancis...@comcast.net javascript: wrote: *Hi All,* *This is worth knowing about something to consider when we start making copies.* *http://goo.gl/vZZlVb http://goo.gl/vZZlVb * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records
Manuel Costa, I hate to contradict everyone before, but they are only right for any certificate applying up to 1913. The 'Registo Civil' is simply unable to provide a certificate for a book that they no longer have. If the books are from 1900, they'll be in the Public Library of Ponta Delgada, and they are the only ones that can provide a certificate of their authenticity. Their contacts are here: http://213.58.174.38:8317/contactos/. You'll need to add '+351' to the phone numbers. João Ventura http://tombo.pt On Sunday, 9 February 2014 03:01:48 UTC+1, Manuel Costa wrote: Thank you I have talked to the consulate in D.C. and mailed her a photo copy of the records I have. Its in the archives because it is a 1900 record.I am waiting a reply. On Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:53:15 PM UTC-6, Mara wrote: Manuel, You can try first at the Portal do Cidadao. You will have to register and obtain id and password. I've been able to get all my certified copies this way but you will need some understanding of portuguese. Order the long form, certified. Because the birth year is 1900 it may not be available. Check it out, link below. https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/certidoes_online/ Recently my cousin was faced with the same problem but she visited the Consulate in Boston and gave them the photocopy of the record from the public archives. Consulate accepted it saying it was fine and that they would get the certified copy. Perhaps you want to try showing them what you have first before ordering it. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Manuel E.C., I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil Registry, unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records. I know we can get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are valid for your purpose. The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao. Conservatória do Registo Civil 9650 Povoação São Miguel, Açôres Portugal They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though. When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your R.Quente families. I have some lines from there. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website
Hello all, I was told today that the 'Ribeira Quente' books are online here: http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/pageview=arg Feel free to go there. Anticipating some of the followup questions: Q1. Why in this site and not the CCA? A1: I don't know. Q2: Will these be in the CCA website later? A2: I don't know. Q3: What about the other 'Ribeira Grande' parishes? A3: I don't know. A+: I really don't know :) Happy researching, João Ventura http://tombo.pt -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website
Hello Joao, It appears that the records are from NS Estrela from 1896-1911. The site is awkward at most to view the records. It you enlarge the record you can view only a small part of the record and can’t adjust the picture to see all if the record. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of João Ventura Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:05 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website Hello all, I was told today that the 'Ribeira Quente' books are online here: http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/page http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/pageview=arg view=arg Feel free to go there. Anticipating some of the followup questions: Q1. Why in this site and not the CCA? A1: I don't know. Q2: Will these be in the CCA website later? A2: I don't know. Q3: What about the other 'Ribeira Grande' parishes? A3: I don't know. A+: I really don't know :) Happy researching, João Ventura http://tombo.pt -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] More Vila Franca do Campo Records online
Hello all, The marriage records from Sao Miguel Arcanjo are on line this morning along with some indices. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] More Vila Franca do Campo Records online
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records
Tony Thank you for the link, but there are none available online for Sao Jorge. Now at least I know where to look for other islands. Are these books available on any microfilms? Would they be with the baptisms? Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.comwrote: Marilyn, Here is the link to the CCA site http://goo.gl/yDkvrb Tony On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:57:12 PM UTC-8, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Are the separate books (legitimacoes) available to search online? If not where do you find them? I have seen them mentioned before but do not know how to locate them. Thanks Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Soares asoare...@gmail.comwrote: AudioSourceInc, If you have the husbands name from the Baptismo, the next step is to find the Casamento ( marriage ) record. It will require a swag ( scientific wild ass guess) and you may end up searching several decades to find it. If you are lucky the casemento will list the ages at time of marriage,that will narrow your search for her baptism record otherwise it will be time for another swag. I usually start at age 20 and go from there ( haven't had to go younger yet). Also if you are lucky she will not have a common name i.e.: Maria. Depending on time period she may be described as pais incognito or nao pais sabido. hope this helps Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records
Marilyn, I’ve never seen any for Sao Jorge. What I have seen though, is that the legits are written in with baptisms and sometime the marriage of the parents. I have my own greats that had 2 children before they married (were cousins so then were awaiting despinsation) and then when they married some years later the priest wrote the “claiming” of the children by Dad, in the marriage record. I’ve seen many notations in the margins of baptisms als Rosemarie From: Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 8:18 AM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records Tony Thank you for the link, but there are none available online for Sao Jorge. Now at least I know where to look for other islands. Are these books available on any microfilms? Would they be with the baptisms? Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, Here is the link to the CCA site http://goo.gl/yDkvrb Tony On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:57:12 PM UTC-8, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Are the separate books (legitimacoes) available to search online? If not where do you find them? I have seen them mentioned before but do not know how to locate them. Thanks Marilyn On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Soares asoare...@gmail.com wrote: AudioSourceInc, If you have the husbands name from the Baptismo, the next step is to find the Casamento ( marriage ) record. It will require a swag ( scientific wild ass guess) and you may end up searching several decades to find it. If you are lucky the casemento will list the ages at time of marriage,that will narrow your search for her baptism record otherwise it will be time for another swag. I usually start at age 20 and go from there ( haven't had to go younger yet). Also if you are lucky she will not have a common name i.e.: Maria. Depending on time period she may be described as pais incognito or nao pais sabido. hope this helps Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website
Joao; Do you know what type of information would be in the books below? Thanks in advance, Sam in MazNotes of Notaries books (42 books, covering 1680 to 1834); Vereações books (20 books, covering 1682 to 1838); Board of Registration of Books (17 books, covering 1603 to 1835). Sent from Windows Mail From: João Ventura Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:04 AM To: Azores Group Hello all, I was told today that the 'Ribeira Quente' books are online here: http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/pageview=arg . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website
I don't think you meant Ribeira Quente (over in Povoacao). I think you meant Ribeira Grande. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GGGGrandfather
Pam, I pointed out Francisca dos Anjos was born in S. Pedro Francisca Ignacia was born in S. Roque Cannot be same people then On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:40:33 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote: The marriage is of Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca Ignacia the Baptism shows Roque the son of Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca dos Anjos (this is Francisca Ignacia) She just used a spirtual name. If you say Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca Ignacia is who you are looking for The marriage and baptism is them. they have the same paternal and maternal grandparents. If you are saying it isnt them because Francisco Ignacia does havent Roque as last name, I wouldn't be too concerned with that alot of the times they did not have the complete name. For example I have a Manuel dos Santos Pacheco (how he married) but in baptism he just shows as Manuel dos Santos. Karen had Joao Ventura who is a reputable genealogist do the research on Roque Rodrigues and came up with the marriage and Baptism. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Maria Roque mariarodr...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Pam, Marriage record, very confusing at the beginning and cannot do much w/it Towards the end I see Francisco Rodrigues filho de Jose Rodrigues e Antonia Souza Francisca dos Anjos filha de Matias de Mello e Maria Carvalho Can you see these names? this is not the ones that belong to my family Baptism record: Roque, we see (que) filho de Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca dos Anjos from S. Pedro Not the ones of my family Roque Rodrigues parents were Francisco Rodrigues S. Roque and Francisca I(g)nacia Roque were from S. Roque Rosa Jacinta his wife was from Lagoa On Sunday, February 9, 2014 1:00:36 AM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote: That marriage is for a Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca Ignacia and if you see in the baptism of Roque it list the Paternal and maternal grandparents which is the same as in the marriage record On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Maria Roque mariarodr...@gmail.comwrote: Pam Thank you, let me explain a bit on this family This is a marriage between Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca dos Anjos this set of parents had a son Roque Rodrigues married to Rosa Joaquina not my randfather/randmother I am looking for Francisco Rodrigues and Francisca I(g)nacia Roque, this set of parents come up in documents of known sons of Roque Rodrigues that married a Rosa Jacinta and run to my lines from greatgrandfather tp sons and a daughter of Roque Rodrigues. I have his wedding document to Rosa Jacinto but never found his birth or death document, had found Rosa Jacinta's death document On Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:04:25 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote: His parents married 2 Jan 1774 below is the link. I would look for Roque between Oct 1774-and before 1792 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD- SAOROQUE-C-1766-1797/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1766-1797_item1/P46.html On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Maria Roque mariarodr...@gmail.comwrote: Pam, Born around 1780 married 1810 Have marriage but did not find birth or death documents -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records
Marilyn T, The legit books are really hit and miss. I've only encountered a few here or there. Seen it written more in the margins. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records
Tony, I have her age on the passport application and ship’s passenger list from her emigration to Hawaii. I have her birth year narrowed down to 1838 or 1839. My struggle is finding the correct parish. Could all those hard to decipher words after her name on her children’s baptism records indicate what parish she is from? Thanks, Erica From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Soares Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:01 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records AudioSourceInc, If you have the husbands name from the Baptismo, the next step is to find the Casamento ( marriage ) record. It will require a swag ( scientific wild ass guess) and you may end up searching several decades to find it. If you are lucky the casemento will list the ages at time of marriage,that will narrow your search for her baptism record otherwise it will be time for another swag. I usually start at age 20 and go from there ( haven't had to go younger yet). Also if you are lucky she will not have a common name i.e.: Maria. Depending on time period she may be described as pais incognito or nao pais sabido. hope this helps Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GGGGrandfather
Cheri, Forgetting Roque Rodrigues and his parents for now One of Roque Rodrigues sons is the father of my ggrandfather No need for DNA to show Karen is a cousin of some degree On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:04:52 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: Maria R, The Francisca in question is the same Francisca. Francisca dos Anjos = Francisca Ignacia = Francisca Inacia. That 2nd name on the woman is more likely to change. Here's a brief article on naming practices in the Azores: http://goo.gl/ltuD6e And if you still are worried, take a DNA test and see if you match Karen Medeiros Huffman or Pam Santos' DNA person. She tested a couple and one of them has the line you are questioning. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website
Hi Cheri, Yes, totally right. Sorry about that.. I still see no reason for these books to be in the Azores University website. There's no mention of any special status on the catalog page for Ribeira Grande: http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1021134 João Ventura http://tombo.pt On Monday, 10 February 2014 18:35:09 UTC+1, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't think you meant Ribeira Quente (over in Povoacao). I think you meant Ribeira Grande. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Theotonio Furtado Jacintha Flora
Hi Pat: I. Going to send this through theAzores list because one never knows how it ties in with other lines. It's how I found you! Yay! I have more names of. Children born to Joao Furtado and Marianna Augusta de Lima: After JACINTA, born November 1865 they had: JOSE B 29 November 1869 MARIA DA GLORIA 15 August 1871 and her twin sister MARIA DOS ANJOS 15 August 1871 GIL. 18 August 1878 in the margin it said this individual died in Sao Sebastao parish but I couldn't make out the year. I think I send you the record. Maybe your eyes are better than mine. Surprisingly, most of the Furtado names just poppedout at me when I was looking for other people in the De Lima line. Thanks for sending all the information. I need to get a new program so I can enter it like you did. I has Legacy on an old tower computer that I don't use any more. All my info is on Familysearch's family tree, public. If I I find any more, will send it to you. Have good day, PS: from your information, I started wondering if Joao and Marianna also went to Hawaii since most of his family emigrated there. (Another project!) Maria Elena On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Pat Thornberg hailiha...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi again. Here's the other 2 pages. Thanks again. IMG_1124.JPG IMG_1125.JPG -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Yet another Azores archive website
Hi, You really shouldn't have translated it for me.. The only one that I can answer is the 'Vereações' book. These would be stuff regarding the day-to-day management of the city hall. For the 'Notaries' it probably is related to the local 'notary'. But you already knew that.. I'm completely lost with the last one, though - 'Board of Registration of Books'. I'm simply unable to retro-translate that into something meaningful. João Ventura http://tombo.pt On Monday, 10 February 2014 18:01:05 UTC+1, apor...@yahoo.com wrote: Joao; Do you know what type of information would be in the books below? Thanks in advance, Sam in Maz - Notes of Notaries books (42 books, covering 1680 to 1834); - Vereações books (20 books, covering 1682 to 1838); - Board of Registration of Books (17 books, covering 1603 to 1835). Sent from Windows Mail *From:* João Ventura javascript: *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:04 AM *To:* Azores Group javascript: Hello all, I was told today that the 'Ribeira Quente' books are online here: http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/pageview=arg . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records
Erica, Those hard to decipher words will tell where the the child is being baptized and may also include where she is from. If you post the link to the most legible of the records you have someone should be able to help you translate. Quite often the Parish and Freguesia are abbreviated . For example an S. P then a . with an o above it would be Sao Pedro. I am still learning but don't mind taking a look. I would suggest starting a new post with the record so it is not lost in this one, and others will may be more prone to see it if they have checked this post. Tony On Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:19:53 PM UTC-8, audiosourceinc wrote: Tony, I have her age on the passport application and ship’s passenger list from her emigration to Hawaii. I have her birth year narrowed down to 1838 or 1839. My struggle is finding the correct parish. Could all those hard to decipher words after her name on her children’s baptism records indicate what parish she is from? Thanks, Erica *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Anthony Soares *Sent:* Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:01 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Incognito grandparents in baptismal records AudioSourceInc, If you have the husbands name from the Baptismo, the next step is to find the Casamento ( marriage ) record. It will require a swag ( scientific wild ass guess) and you may end up searching several decades to find it. If you are lucky the casemento will list the ages at time of marriage,that will narrow your search for her baptism record otherwise it will be time for another swag. I usually start at age 20 and go from there ( haven't had to go younger yet). Also if you are lucky she will not have a common name i.e.: Maria. Depending on time period she may be described as pais incognito or nao pais sabido. hope this helps Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Matriz Vila Franca weddings online
Just letting you know that Matriz de Vila Franca weddings are online. But the years 1705 to 1743 shows this 404 - File or directory not found. The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin
I am trying to determine the parish of baptism for Maria dos Anjos. According to the passport application and passenger manifest from the family's emigration to Hawaii, she was born in 1838 or 1839. The baptismal records for all six of her children (that I have found so far) have incognito for the maternal grandparents. The link below is for her oldest child (that I know of), Maria. It is from Livramento. The other 5 children and her husband, Joaquim Garrancho Botelho, were all baptized in Sao Roque. I have searched in Sao Roque, Sao Pedro, and Livramento for her baptismal record and their marriage record. Her husband was born in 1839. I have been looking from 1850 to 1863 in all these parishes for the marriage record. This baptismal record says Fille legitimate. I assumed that meant they were married when she was baptised. Or can it mean something else? If anyone can help decipher the phrases after Maria dos Anjos' name, that might tell me where she is from, I would greatly appreciate it. My Maria is entry #34 at this link. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-LIVRAMENTO-B-186 0-1869/SMG-PD-LIVRAMENTO-B-1860-1869_item1/P100.html Thank you all for the help you have already been. If anyone ever gets a branch of their family tree in Norway or Sweden, let me know. I can repay the help with those parish records J Erica -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family
I am researching my family from Rabo de Peixe and Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada. Can someone tell me if any of these places are on line as of yet? Also did people who came by whaling ships, did they have passports? Thanks Geneva -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin
Repost for Erica, audiosourceinc at qwestoffice.net After looking more closely at Maria's record, I realized that her record is the easiest to read, but does not include the longer description of Maria dos Anjos' name. Here is a link for another daughter, Angela #42, that has the longer phrase attached to Maria do Anjos. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1860-1869_item1/P244.html Again, Thank you, Erica -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family
Geneva, If you see it on the CCA site, it's online. If you don't see it, it's not online. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ Don't know about the whaling ship thing. I only know about a web site within the New Bedford Public Library that lists crewmen. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin
This post says she is from the Parish of São Pedro. The second post for Angela seems to say that she is from Nossa Senhora das Candeirio of Candelaria. Hope that helps a little anyway. Howard Keith Pimental From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Erica Botelho Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:26 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin I am trying to determine the parish of baptism for Maria dos Anjos. According to the passport application and passenger manifest from the family's emigration to Hawaii, she was born in 1838 or 1839. The baptismal records for all six of her children (that I have found so far) have incognito for the maternal grandparents. The link below is for her oldest child (that I know of), Maria. It is from Livramento. The other 5 children and her husband, Joaquim Garrancho Botelho, were all baptized in Sao Roque. I have searched in Sao Roque, Sao Pedro, and Livramento for her baptismal record and their marriage record. Her husband was born in 1839. I have been looking from 1850 to 1863 in all these parishes for the marriage record. This baptismal record says Fille legitimate. I assumed that meant they were married when she was baptised. Or can it mean something else? If anyone can help decipher the phrases after Maria dos Anjos' name, that might tell me where she is from, I would greatly appreciate it. My Maria is entry #34 at this link. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-LIVRAMENTO-B-18 60-1869/SMG-PD-LIVRAMENTO-B-1860-1869_item1/P100.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-LIVRAMENTO-B-186 0-1869/SMG-PD-LIVRAMENTO-B-1860-1869_item1/P100.html Thank you all for the help you have already been. If anyone ever gets a branch of their family tree in Norway or Sweden, let me know. I can repay the help with those parish records :) Erica -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn-- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
I have seen it in many records. I never though much about it, but it makes sense that the marriage be blessed after consumation! The last part is my own thought on it :)) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:42:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose From: mari...@jmtmlt.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I have no idea what is being said. The part after Maria Victorina's name. I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote: Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. * *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 *Hi Marilyn,* *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM *To:* Cheri Mello *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For
[AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages
Thank goodness for color scans! What is this purple stuff on the pages? http://goo.gl/Qi9m4i -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages
Did they wash the page with something? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Thank goodness for color scans! What is this purple stuff on the pages? http://goo.gl/Qi9m4i -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages
The wash is applied with a brush and is uniform. This is something that looks like it permeated the books...dampness, a kind of bug...I don't know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Somehow I convinced myself it was a baptism kind of makes me feel dumb. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 7:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to
[AZORES-Genealogy] Praia do Norte, Faial death 1873, born in Capelo
Number 16 on the left: http://goo.gl/Me3DPT Third line from the end it states that Ignacia Maria was a native of Capelo (on Faial), had no will, and something 7 kids. Curious about the 7 kids and what may be the hyphenated word before the sete. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Praia do Norte, Faial death 1873, born in Capelo
Hello Cheri, It seems ti me that the word is deixando sete filhos. It means that she died and left 7 kids. The word deixando (verb: deixar) is not hyphenated, it is just separated because of the end of the line. Best regards, Geraldo 2014-02-11 0:34 GMT-02:00 Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com: Number 16 on the left: http://goo.gl/Me3DPT Third line from the end it states that Ignacia Maria was a native of Capelo (on Faial), had no will, and something 7 kids. Curious about the 7 kids and what may be the hyphenated word before the sete. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages
Tony S, There are some pages that have clearly been wet. I don't know if it was the humidity, it rained and the books got wet or what. The weird thing is that it's purple! Maybe there's purple mold in the Azores?? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Anthony Soares asoaresph...@gmail.comwrote: My guess would the book had been damp at some point and this is residue of some type of mold,I am probably wrong but it is my guess. Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages
Cheri, I believe color depends a lot on the source of nutrient and age of, I think it is referred to as a colony, and probably species too. I have see some wild looking molds in other countries. Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family
To check the crew of a whaling ship, try going to the New Bedford whaling museum website. Www.whalingmuseum.org You can check by whaling ship name, or by the name of a crew member. On Feb 10, 2014 6:19 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Geneva, If you see it on the CCA site, it's online. If you don't see it, it's not online. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ Don't know about the whaling ship thing. I only know about a web site within the New Bedford Public Library that lists crewmen. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Vila Franca do Campo Records online
Someone wake me up when they get to Ribeira Grande. ZZ, Paul G. On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:08:43 AM UTC-5, mnk wrote: Yippee! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
