[AZORES-Genealogy] 1866 marriage Ribeira das Tainhas, Sao Miguel island, written at end of book

2014-07-24 Thread Cheri Mello
As I was clicking through the images of Ribeira das Tainhas on Sao Miguel island, and got to the last marriage for 1866, I noticed too many other images for 1866. So I clicked. And I found this. http://goo.gl/TuymiQ It's an unnumbered marriage. I don't know what the top paragraph says. I can

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1866 marriage Ribeira das Tainhas, Sao Miguel island, written at end of book

2014-07-24 Thread João Ventura
Hi Cheri, This is the letter that was written (and then received) in December 1866 authorizing these grooms to marry. Supposedly because the groom got permission to marry from his father (at 23!!!). The marriage itself will be recorded, most likely in early 1867. João Ventura

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1866 marriage Ribeira das Tainhas, Sao Miguel island, written at end of book

2014-07-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Oh! A good chunk of it reads like a marriage, but it was after that closing paragraph and it didn't follow the language I was used to. Is this one the same thing? But it's a little more like scratch paper with some math and one entry written upside down! http://goo.gl/NNPKjD Thanks! Cheri On

[AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?

2014-07-24 Thread Nicole Rodriques
Until a few days ago I was stuck at only knowing my great-gparents' names and vaguely where they came from and relevant birth and death dates. With the help of people on this list, I now I have the names all the way back to my g-g-g-great gparents thanks to the Azores baptismos and marriage

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?

2014-07-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Nicole R, You can find ALL the kids of a particular couple (the kids' baptisms and marriage). It will strengthen your reading of the records. It will also build your database so when you get a DNA match, you'll have a starting point to connect your DNA match to. You didn't mention a place for

[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help for Goncalo Ferreira and Maria Goncalves 1620 Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel

2014-07-24 Thread Fred Estrella
I'm having trouble with the names of Maria's parents. Her father looks like Miguel ___(ats or als or alz?) and her mother's first name might be Suzana? Glz (Goncalves). The record is on the right page, first full record:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Language after bride's occupation

2014-07-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Last one and then I'm off to the repair shop with my piccolo or I won't be performing at the festa! http://goo.gl/S4Uo1V Bottom left, #3, marriage of Manuel Medeiros Perpetua da Conceicao. 5th line from bottom: She (bride) of the occupation domestic service . Then what? Does it say she has

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help for Goncalo Ferreira and Maria Goncalves 1620 Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel

2014-07-24 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Suzana Gonçalves (I think) it is correct. Miguel… ? De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Fred Estrella Enviada: quinta-feira, 24 de Julho de 2014 17:13 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help for Goncalo Ferreira and Maria

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Language after bride's occupation

2014-07-24 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Father gives its agreement to the marriage but doesn’t sign it in order to prove he gave the consent because he does not know how to write. They were under age if less than 25 (it is the same as “filho famílias). “married on Monday” – at those times marrying was an act of ordinary life. Most

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help for Goncalo Ferreira and Maria Goncalves 1620 Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel

2014-07-24 Thread JR
Nov 22- 1626, married Gonsallo Frra (Ferreira) , filho de Mel Lopes e Ma (Maria) Frra com Ma Roiz (Rodrigues) filha de Miguel Alz (Alvares) e Suzana Glz (Gonsalves) residents of this fraguesia. Witnesses were- Mel da Sylva Barboza e Bras Roiz e Anto Lco (Lourenco), residents of the said

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Language after bride's occupation

2014-07-24 Thread Dano
Cheri, thanks for using my 3rd cousins as an example... The bride was required to get the father's consent due to the fact that she was 20 yrs.of age at the time of marriage. The document substantiates that as the father has given his consent, there is no further impediment to the marriage,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Language after bride's occupation

2014-07-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Under age was 25? OK, thanks for the info! I knew the weddings are not like the ones of today. I just figured it was the bride groom, their parents, and the witnesses. So it's just the bride groom and witnesses for the most part? Cheri On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Language after bride's occupation

2014-07-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Well Dano, I hope you got to enter that one into your computer! The bride was mean old Aunt Perpetua according to family stories! I realized I didn't have her marriage, so I looked on the CCA. You don't happen to have her death in New Bedford do you? I think her hubby died in an auto accident

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help for Goncalo Ferreira and Maria Goncalves 1620 Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel

2014-07-24 Thread Fred Estrella
Many thanks to JR and Eliseu for their Help! On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Nov 22- 1626, married Gonsallo Frra (Ferreira) , filho de Mel Lopes e Ma (Maria) Frra com Ma Roiz (Rodrigues) filha de Miguel Alz (Alvares) e Suzana Glz (Gonsalves) residents of this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?

2014-07-24 Thread luiznoia .
Jose Ignacio de Medeiros resident of Lomba de Feteira Grande( 35 yrs)and Ana Rosa de Jesus (18 yrs) his parents: Manuel Ignacio de Medeiros ( native of the freguisia of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Achadinha) and Maria Francisca Resendes (native of this parish) Her parents Joao Cabral and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Language after bride's occupation

2014-07-24 Thread Dano
I had the parents, but not the daughter. The marriage record helped fill in a few spaces, that's all. Cheri. I didn't know she [Perpetua] was cranky; I thought it was just the priest - maybe she felt she was due :) Except for the Parents and Grandparents, I don't have much on this part of the