[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread George Pacheco
I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same time.

The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when
entering a new family.
 I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back up
my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm
looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for
something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I
tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker
is the same.


Thanks

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread Cheri Mello
How many people are in your file?
Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread Diane George
How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family file 
(extension is fdb.)  

 

Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some other 
ideas about why they 
occur--http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html.

 

Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them a 
clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what version of 
Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for reporting 
problems:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp

 

Diane George

 

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George Pacheco
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

 




I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same time.

 

The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when entering 
a new family.

 I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back up my 
file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm looking 
for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for something 
better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I tried TMG 
takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker is the same.

 

 

Thanks

 

George

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread George Pacheco
I have 158342


On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family
 file (extension is fdb.)



 Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some
 other ideas about why they occur--
 http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html
 .



 Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them
 a clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what
 version of Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for
 reporting problems:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp



 Diane George



 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *George Pacheco
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM
 *To:* Azores-Gen
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program




 I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same
 time.



 The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when
 entering a new family.

  I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back
 up my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm
 looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for
 something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I
 tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker
 is the same.





 Thanks



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread Diane George
You need to find out the file size by going to the folder where Legacy stores 
the Data; the folder name is usually “Data” and it is in the “LegacyFamilyTree” 
folder. If you used the default locations, the files are in the Documents 
folder in Windows. If you do exceed the limit, you may have to split your 
database into smaller “branches.”

 

The file ends with the extension “.fdb.” That is what determines whether you 
have exceeded the file size limit. If you start looking at other programs, be 
sure to find out what the file size limitations are or you will run into 
similar problems.

 

Diane George

 

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George Pacheco
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:13 PM
To: Azores-Gen
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

 

I have 158342

 

 

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com 
mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com  wrote:

How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family file 
(extension is fdb.)  

 

Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some other 
ideas about why they 
occur--http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html.

 

Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them a 
clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what version of 
Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for reporting 
problems:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp

 

Diane George

 

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George Pacheco
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM
To: Azores-Gen
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

 




I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same time.

 

The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when entering 
a new family.

 I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back up my 
file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm looking 
for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for something 
better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I tried TMG 
takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker is the same.

 

 

Thanks

 

George

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread George Pacheco
Thank you everyone!

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 You need to find out the file size by going to the folder where Legacy
 stores the Data; the folder name is usually “Data” and it is in the
 “LegacyFamilyTree” folder. If you used the default locations, the files are
 in the Documents folder in Windows. If you do exceed the limit, you may
 have to split your database into smaller “branches.”



 The file ends with the extension “.fdb.” That is what determines whether
 you have exceeded the file size limit. If you start looking at other
 programs, be sure to find out what the file size limitations are or you
 will run into similar problems.



 Diane George



 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *George Pacheco
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:13 PM
 *To:* Azores-Gen
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program



 I have 158342





 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family
 file (extension is fdb.)



 Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some
 other ideas about why they occur--
 http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html
 .



 Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them
 a clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what
 version of Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for
 reporting problems:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp



 Diane George



 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *George Pacheco
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM
 *To:* Azores-Gen
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program




 I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same
 time.



 The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when
 entering a new family.

  I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back
 up my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm
 looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for
 something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I
 tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker
 is the same.





 Thanks



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread Marilyn Thompson
This is from the genealogy software Ancestral Quest in answer to file
limits. The following is from the FAQ page. I really like this
program.

How many individuals can I enter with AQ?

The limit on individuals is not a hard limit. You can enter roughly 1
million individuals. Less if you enter a lot of documentation with
each, and more if you have less documentation.

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:12 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you everyone!

 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 You need to find out the file size by going to the folder where Legacy
 stores the Data; the folder name is usually “Data” and it is in the
 “LegacyFamilyTree” folder. If you used the default locations, the files are
 in the Documents folder in Windows. If you do exceed the limit, you may have
 to split your database into smaller “branches.”



 The file ends with the extension “.fdb.” That is what determines whether
 you have exceeded the file size limit. If you start looking at other
 programs, be sure to find out what the file size limitations are or you will
 run into similar problems.



 Diane George



 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of George Pacheco
 Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:13 PM
 To: Azores-Gen
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program



 I have 158342





 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family
 file (extension is fdb.)



 Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some
 other ideas about why they
 occur--http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html.



 Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them
 a clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what
 version of Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for
 reporting problems:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp



 Diane George



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 Of George Pacheco
 Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM
 To: Azores-Gen
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program




 I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same
 time.



 The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when
 entering a new family.

  I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back
 up my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm
 looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for
 something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I
 tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker
 is the same.





 Thanks



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Ok I'll let George know.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

2014-09-07 Thread Cheri Mello
George,
I checked with a friend about TMG. It was 300,000 people a couple of years
ago.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-02-04 Thread aportugee
Has anyone besides Ricardo tried this free genealogy program?  If so, please 
share your thoughts on it’s pros and cons.


Thanks, Sam in Maz



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From: Ricardo Chaves
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎January‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎1‎:‎16‎ ‎PM
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Something light, simple and free, worth giving a try!



http://www.ahnenblatt.com/





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread blackice430
Hi, I've used TMG and just upgraded it from a 4 to a 8. I downloaded it. It is 
confusing, and I have had to call a few times for help, but they are very nice 
and they explain to you where you need help. I wish I had a book that I could 
look at and take my time reading . That would be a lot easier for me. I don't 
know how to use 80 % of the program. I wonder if they sell just the book. I 
guess I'll have to call . 
Pat Mello Sylvia 
snowing in Dartmouth Ma. 
16 degrees 

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To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:39:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program 

Geez, Rick, thanks for blowing my cover! LOL 

TMG has the Silver Edition for $34 (download only) or $40 (CD Rom and 
electronic Users Guide).  The Gold Edition is $60 (download only) or $70 
(CD-ROM  electronic Users Guide).  There is a chart that explains the 
difference: http://goo.gl/IAjTsk 

The current version is 8.0.  To go from 7.0 to 8.0, I paid $30.  And when they 
come up with version 9.0, it will be something along those lines.  And it will 
take them 2 or 3 years to come out with 9.0 

I started with TMG 2.5 in the mid-90s.  Here it is, almost 20 years later and 
TMG is up to version 8.0.  That's 6 version changes in 20 years, which averages 
out to you shelling out more money every 3.3 years. 

I like the filtering.  If I'm trying to figure out my Ponta Garca people, so I 
can run the filter for everyone born in Ponta Garca.  Or married in Ponta 
Garca. Or, or, or.  OR, it can be and, and, and.  This does take some time to 
learn.  I also like customizing my Pick List.  This is the index of people.  
Mine is set up to show the names, date of birth, date of death, father's name, 
mother's name, and spouse's name.  So, if I'm looking at my 25 Manuel Silvas, I 
can really see which one I want to work on.  There are other fields I can put 
in too (or take out). 

I pretty much like it how it comes out to the box.  The main screen shows my 
subject person and all their details/events that happened in their life.  So if 
it was displaying my immigrant ancestor, I would see the birth, immigration, 
censuses, WW1 Draft, dispensation (I had to make a tag or event for that), 
marriage(s), children, occupation, death, burial.  All of that, right there, in 
my face.  Not hidden behind an icon.  I like that.  To the right of that 
screen, I have 3 boxes: His children, his siblings, and his associates.  Some 
people have their Flags open.  I toggle that one off and on. 

I also have a couple of other layouts.  I have one for the projector at my 
genealogy society.  That's no big deal, really.  I also have one called 
Project Explorer where I have my Details window open and my Pick List open.  
This is for me to clean my database.  Well, split it.  Should have split my 
dad's Portuguese lines from his American lines years ago before merging it with 
my mom's.  My mom has no Portuguese ancestry and is not related to him that 
way.  Yeah, DNA proved that they are 6th cousins, but it's on my dad's one an 
only German line way back in the 1740s. 

Cheri Mello 
Listowner, Azores-Gen 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread MaryAnn Santos
What about software for Macs. I use Reunion but don't really like it that
much. It seems clunky to me and looks dated. I also bought FTM and MacTree
but haven't made the switch to one of these yet. I'm leaning towards
MacTree because navigation seems more intuitive. Any opinions from Mac
users?

MaryAnn Santos


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 GGervais,

 You'll get people telling you that the best program is the one they are
 using.  That's not going to help you.  If you want certain things in a
 program and can tell us, that may steer you towards one program or the
 other.

 The 4 most popular in the PC market are:
 Family Tree Maker (FTM), Legacy, RootsMagic, and The Master Genealogist.

 You already know about FTM.

 Legacy has their Standard Edition (free) and their Deluxe (pay).  So
 download Legacy and play around with it: www.legacyfamilytree.com  The
 Deluxe has about 100 extra bells and whistles.

 RootsMagic also has a free editions.  They call it their Essentials.
 Download that and play around with it too: www.rootsmagic.com/essentials
 I don't know how many extra bells and whistles their paid version has.

 The Master Genealogist (TMG) allows you to explore their full program for
 30 days free (and then it locks you out). www.whollygenes.com  Download
 that and play around with it (but make sure you have close to a month to
 peruse it.  Trying to figure that program out 2 days before it expires is
 like doing a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle in 1 hour).

 I go over all 4 programs in a lecture in Salt Lake.  Your local genealogy
 society may have speakers.  Request that they find a speaker that can
 lecture on genealogy software.

 General overview of the 3 you haven't tried:
 RootsMagic probably has the smallest learning curve.  However, I've read
 that some people find that they outgrow that program rather easily.
 However, there's a RM User Group at one of my local genealogy societies,
 and there are a couple of engineers in there.  So it's whatever makes you
 happy.

 Legacy has a pleasing user interface and a smaller learning curve.  It can
 be a fairly powerful program, too.  It's Source Writer is absolutely
 fantastic.  No other program has a source feature like that.  I'd have to
 look up the cons for Legacy.

 TMG is the most powerful program out there.  They have a bit of a learning
 curve, but they have tried to do things to make it easier (they have a
 beginner's mode vs. an advanced mode).  Their filtering feature is awesome
 (you have to practice learning how to use it, though).  And it's just about
 completely customizable too.  So you don't like the user interface out of
 the box, you can change it.

 When I bought a genealogy program in the mid-90s (I think this was back in
 the Windows 3.1 days), I had 2 criteria.  1) It had to have a character
 field long enough to take a city name the length of Ribeira das Tainhas or
 Vila Franca do Campo.  2) It had to take diacritics.  Those accented
 letters. I wanted the names to be written properly.  I wanted José de
 Mello, not Jose de Mello.  Only 1 program on the market could do that at
 that time.  Now, it's a moot point.  They can all do that.

 So if you have any specific concerns for a genealogy program, ask away.
 Or try all 3 and then ask away.  But make fake family and marry yourself to
 yourself, mess up on dates and make someone born after they died, make
 someone have a baby out of wedlock, etc.  See how each program handles or
 display these things.

 Also, depending on where you live, see if there is User Group in your area
 (all the web sites above have a User Groups section where you can check to
 see if there is one in your area).  We get people dropping in to our group
 wanting to see what the program is like before they purchase it.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread GENEVA
Thanks for the information. I t's a good day to play around and see what I can 
find. Appreciate your help. 

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From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com 
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:37:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program 
















GGervais, 

You'll get people telling you that the best program is the one they are using.  
That's not going to help you.  If you want certain things in a program and can 
tell us, that may steer you towards one program or the other. 

The 4 most popular in the PC market are: 
Family Tree Maker (FTM), Legacy, RootsMagic, and The Master Genealogist. 

You already know about FTM. 

Legacy has their Standard Edition (free) and their Deluxe (pay).  So download 
Legacy and play around with it: www.legacyfamilytree.com   The Deluxe has about 
100 extra bells and whistles. 

RootsMagic also has a free editions.  They call it their Essentials.  Download 
that and play around with it too: www.rootsmagic.com/essentials   I don't know 
how many extra bells and whistles their paid version has. 

The Master Genealogist (TMG) allows you to explore their full program for 30 
days free (and then it locks you out). www.whollygenes.com   Download that and 
play around with it (but make sure you have close to a month to peruse it.  
Trying to figure that program out 2 days before it expires is like doing a 5000 
piece jigsaw puzzle in 1 hour). 

I go over all 4 programs in a lecture in Salt Lake.  Your local genealogy 
society may have speakers.  Request that they find a speaker that can lecture 
on genealogy software. 

General overview of the 3 you haven't tried: 
RootsMagic probably has the smallest learning curve.  However, I've read that 
some people find that they outgrow that program rather easily.  However, 
there's a RM User Group at one of my local genealogy societies, and there are a 
couple of engineers in there.  So it's whatever makes you happy. 

Legacy has a pleasing user interface and a smaller learning curve.  It can be a 
fairly powerful program, too.  It's Source Writer is absolutely fantastic.  No 
other program has a source feature like that.  I'd have to look up the cons for 
Legacy. 

TMG is the most powerful program out there.  They have a bit of a learning 
curve, but they have tried to do things to make it easier (they have a 
beginner's mode vs. an advanced mode).  Their filtering feature is awesome (you 
have to practice learning how to use it, though).  And it's just about 
completely customizable too.  So you don't like the user interface out of the 
box, you can change it. 

When I bought a genealogy program in the mid-90s (I think this was back in the 
Windows 3.1 days), I had 2 criteria.  1) It had to have a character field long 
enough to take a city name the length of Ribeira das Tainhas or Vila Franca do 
Campo.  2) It had to take diacritics.  Those accented letters. I wanted the 
names to be written properly.  I wanted José de Mello, not Jose de Mello.  Only 
1 program on the market could do that at that time.  Now, it's a moot point.  
They can all do that. 

So if you have any specific concerns for a genealogy program, ask away.  Or try 
all 3 and then ask away.  But make fake family and marry yourself to yourself, 
mess up on dates and make someone born after they died, make someone have a 
baby out of wedlock, etc.  See how each program handles or display these 
things. 

Also, depending on where you live, see if there is User Group in your area (all 
the web sites above have a User Groups section where you can check to see if 
there is one in your area).  We get people dropping in to our group wanting to 
see what the program is like before they purchase it. 


Cheri Mello 
Listowner, Azores-Gen 
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread Cheri Mello
Pat M.S,

A couple of beta testers put together a book.

Getting the Most Out of The Master Genealogist by Lee Hoffman
http://www.whollygenes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?screen=PRODproduct_code=GTM

A Primer for The Master Genealogist by Terry Reigel
http://www.whollygenes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=BPRIMER

There are also videos or video/book combos here:
http://www.whollygenes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=TRAINING

The nearest User Group to you is in Boston.
http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?showtopic=7931

That was their announcement when they were new in 2007.  Don't know if they
are still active or not.

I've been on a TMG cruise.  It was funny to watch Bob Velke, president of
Wholly Genes, publisher of The Master Genealogist, bumble around trying to
find something to answer someone's question.  He knew TMG had that
feature.  He had his developers write code for it, but it was something he
didn't use and had to poke around a bit to find it!

Hope this helps!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread Cheri Mello
MaryAnn S,

Reunion has 80% of the Mac share.  I think MacTree (?) was 2nd.  Since FTM
came out with a Mac version, they are gaining ground.  RootsMagic was
talking about a Mac version, but I don't know what came of that (I'm not a
Mac user).

However, if you are Mac user running Parallels, VM Fusion, or another one
of those types of programs (Windows simulators??  I don't know what they
are called), you can run any Windows program on your Mac.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread MaryAnn Santos
Thanks, Edna. I was afraid of that. Years ago I used LDS/FMC software and
it was exceptional at that time.

MaryAnn Santos


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:

 Mary all I can say is good luck.   I love my Mac but have not found a
 program that I like for it.   I was used to FTM on my PC and finally ended
 up just getting an inexpensive PC and using it for my genealogy.;)

 Edna Lemos Epps
 dave-e...@comcast.net

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 where the Lord listened to the voice of a man; for the
 Lord fought for Israel



 On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:41 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote:

 What about software for Macs. I use Reunion but don't really like it that
 much. It seems clunky to me and looks dated. I also bought FTM and MacTree
 but haven't made the switch to one of these yet. I'm leaning towards
 MacTree because navigation seems more intuitive. Any opinions from Mac
 users?

 MaryAnn Santos


 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 GGervais,

 You'll get people telling you that the best program is the one they are
 using.  That's not going to help you.  If you want certain things in a
 program and can tell us, that may steer you towards one program or the
 other.

 The 4 most popular in the PC market are:
 Family Tree Maker (FTM), Legacy, RootsMagic, and The Master Genealogist.

 You already know about FTM.

 Legacy has their Standard Edition (free) and their Deluxe (pay).  So
 download Legacy and play around with it: www.legacyfamilytree.com  The
 Deluxe has about 100 extra bells and whistles.

 RootsMagic also has a free editions.  They call it their Essentials.
 Download that and play around with it too: www.rootsmagic.com/essentials
 I don't know how many extra bells and whistles their paid version has.

 The Master Genealogist (TMG) allows you to explore their full program for
 30 days free (and then it locks you out). www.whollygenes.com  Download
 that and play around with it (but make sure you have close to a month to
 peruse it.  Trying to figure that program out 2 days before it expires is
 like doing a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle in 1 hour).

 I go over all 4 programs in a lecture in Salt Lake.  Your local genealogy
 society may have speakers.  Request that they find a speaker that can
 lecture on genealogy software.

 General overview of the 3 you haven't tried:
 RootsMagic probably has the smallest learning curve.  However, I've read
 that some people find that they outgrow that program rather easily.
 However, there's a RM User Group at one of my local genealogy societies,
 and there are a couple of engineers in there.  So it's whatever makes you
 happy.

 Legacy has a pleasing user interface and a smaller learning curve.  It
 can be a fairly powerful program, too.  It's Source Writer is absolutely
 fantastic.  No other program has a source feature like that.  I'd have to
 look up the cons for Legacy.

 TMG is the most powerful program out there.  They have a bit of a
 learning curve, but they have tried to do things to make it easier (they
 have a beginner's mode vs. an advanced mode).  Their filtering feature is
 awesome (you have to practice learning how to use it, though).  And it's
 just about completely customizable too.  So you don't like the user
 interface out of the box, you can change it.

 When I bought a genealogy program in the mid-90s (I think this was back
 in the Windows 3.1 days), I had 2 criteria.  1) It had to have a character
 field long enough to take a city name the length of Ribeira das Tainhas or
 Vila Franca do Campo.  2) It had to take diacritics.  Those accented
 letters. I wanted the names to be written properly.  I wanted José de
 Mello, not Jose de Mello.  Only 1 program on the market could do that at
 that time.  Now, it's a moot point.  They can all do that.

 So if you have any specific concerns for a genealogy program, ask away.
 Or try all 3 and then ask away.  But make fake family and marry yourself to
 yourself, mess up on dates and make someone born after they died, make
 someone have a baby out of wedlock, etc.  See how each program handles or
 display these things.

 Also, depending on where you live, see if there is User Group in your
 area (all the web sites above have a User Groups section where you can
 check to see if there is one in your area).  We get people dropping in to
 our group wanting to see what the program is like before they purchase it.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread Kathy Cardoza
MaryAnn Santos:

I am a devoted Mac user, but as someone else stated, I haven't really found a 
Mac genealogy program that I'm happy with. I have tried them all. Almost all of 
the following have a free demo version, always with limitations, but it's a 
great way to try out software before you decide which one meets your needs. 
Here are the top 5:

Reunion, http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php, has always been the most popular 
for Macs. I used it from version 4 thru the current version, but it's sadly 
lacking in many areas and I really don't like the new interface. That, of 
course, is just my opinion, for what that's worth.

Family Tree Maker 3, https://www.familytreemaker.com/Products/Mac, is another 
popular Mac program but I don't think it offers a demo version. It is 
affiliated with Ancestry.com.

Mac FamilyTree, http://www.syniumsoftware.com/macfamilytree/, is a program that 
offers a demo version so you can try it out. I believe it is fully functional 
but doesn't allow you to save or print.

Heredis 2014 offers a demo version 
http://www.heredis.com/en/heredis-2014-for-mac/  There is no time limit on this 
free demo but you are limited to 50 people.

iFamily for Leopard, http://ifamilyforleopard.com. This also has a demo version.

You can read about and compare features of all these programs and more here:
Mac Genealogy Reviews:  
http://genealogy-software-review.toptenreviews.com/mac-genealogy-software/index.html

Personally, I run Parallels on my Mac so that I have a complete Windows 7 
computer within my Mac. So, with that, I use Legacy 8 and love it! It fulfills 
all my needs and has a pleasant, easy to use interface. With some type of 
virtualization software such as Parallels, VM Fusion, and others, you can use 
any Windows program you want. I hated to go over to the dark side but I never 
was happy with Mac genealogy offerings.

Remember, these are just my opinions . different folks have different needs 
and expectations. With the exception of FTM, all of the above programs have 
demo modes so that you can try before you buy. You can't ask for more than that!

Good luck,
Kathy Cardoza

~~~
Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html

Climb my Family Tree:
http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html
~~~



On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:41 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote:

 What about software for Macs. I use Reunion but don't really like it that 
 much. It seems clunky to me and looks dated. I also bought FTM and MacTree 
 but haven't made the switch to one of these yet. I'm leaning towards MacTree 
 because navigation seems more intuitive. Any opinions from Mac users?
 
 MaryAnn Santos
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread Tish M
Here is a good source if you are interested in what's out there for Mac
users.
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2013/03/genealogy-programs-for-macintosh.html
I use reunion, but I'm certainly not married to it. I might give some of
these a try.
Tish


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@me.com wrote:

 MaryAnn Santos:

 I am a devoted Mac user, but as someone else stated, I haven't really
 found a Mac genealogy program that I'm happy with. I have tried them all.
 Almost all of the following have a free demo version, always with
 limitations, but it's a great way to try out software before you decide
 which one meets your needs. Here are the top 5:

 Reunion, http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php, has always been the most
 popular for Macs. I used it from version 4 thru the current version, but
 it's sadly lacking in many areas and I really don't like the new interface.
 That, of course, is just my opinion, for what that's worth.

 Family Tree Maker 3, https://www.familytreemaker.com/Products/Mac, is
 another popular Mac program but I don't think it offers a demo version. It
 is affiliated with Ancestry.com.

 Mac FamilyTree, http://www.syniumsoftware.com/macfamilytree/, is a
 program that offers a demo version so you can try it out. I believe it is
 fully functional but doesn't allow you to save or print.

 Heredis 2014 offers a demo version
 http://www.heredis.com/en/heredis-2014-for-mac/  There is no time limit
 on this free demo but you are limited to 50 people.

 iFamily for Leopard, http://ifamilyforleopard.com. This also has a demo
 version.

 You can read about and compare features of all these programs and more
 here:
 Mac Genealogy Reviews:
 http://genealogy-software-review.toptenreviews.com/mac-genealogy-software/index.html

 Personally, I run Parallels on my Mac so that I have a complete Windows 7
 computer within my Mac. So, with that, I use Legacy 8 and love it! It
 fulfills all my needs and has a pleasant, easy to use interface. With some
 type of virtualization software such as Parallels, VM Fusion, and others,
 you can use any Windows program you want. I hated to go over to the dark
 side but I never was happy with Mac genealogy offerings.

 Remember, these are just my opinions . different folks have different
 needs and expectations. With the exception of FTM, all of the above
 programs have demo modes so that you can try before you buy. You can't ask
 for more than that!

 Good luck,
 Kathy Cardoza

  ~~~
 Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
 http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html

 Climb my Family Tree:
 http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html
 ~~~



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 What about software for Macs. I use Reunion but don't really like it that
 much. It seems clunky to me and looks dated. I also bought FTM and MacTree
 but haven't made the switch to one of these yet. I'm leaning towards
 MacTree because navigation seems more intuitive. Any opinions from Mac
 users?

 MaryAnn Santos


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Something light, simple and free, worth giving a try!

http://www.ahnenblatt.com/

Cheers


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 don't care much for and thought about legacy and saw Master genealogist as
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 search again and hope to be able to put everything into some program before
 I loose everything.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread Cheri Mello
Dick Eastman just wrote that GRAMPS has a new version.  It runs on Macs and
PCs: http://goo.gl/o3glim
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-29 Thread Tish M
I have been playing with Heredis all afternoon (a pretty complete trial
program) and I am pretty impressed. The learning curve was minimal and it
thinks like I do. It gives you a list of all your duplicates and shows you
both entries with a merged entry in the middle. You can then work with the
entry that will be merged and pick and choose what you want to keep. You
then hit something like merge entry and bam!,  the duplicates are gone and
all that is left is the merged entry. Not sure what happens if you decided
you made a mistake...
It also does a good job on relationships (maybe more than you care to
know).
Check it out. It works for Mac and PC.
Tish


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[AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-28 Thread ggervais1...@centurylink.net
I was searching for genealogy programs as I bought Family Tree Maker but 
don't care much for and thought about legacy and saw Master genealogist as 
being a great program. Anyone have any thoughts? I am starting my genealogy 
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I loose everything.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-28 Thread Cheri Mello
GGervais,

You'll get people telling you that the best program is the one they are
using.  That's not going to help you.  If you want certain things in a
program and can tell us, that may steer you towards one program or the
other.

The 4 most popular in the PC market are:
Family Tree Maker (FTM), Legacy, RootsMagic, and The Master Genealogist.

You already know about FTM.

Legacy has their Standard Edition (free) and their Deluxe (pay).  So
download Legacy and play around with it: www.legacyfamilytree.com  The
Deluxe has about 100 extra bells and whistles.

RootsMagic also has a free editions.  They call it their Essentials.
Download that and play around with it too: www.rootsmagic.com/essentials  I
don't know how many extra bells and whistles their paid version has.

The Master Genealogist (TMG) allows you to explore their full program for
30 days free (and then it locks you out). www.whollygenes.com  Download
that and play around with it (but make sure you have close to a month to
peruse it.  Trying to figure that program out 2 days before it expires is
like doing a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle in 1 hour).

I go over all 4 programs in a lecture in Salt Lake.  Your local genealogy
society may have speakers.  Request that they find a speaker that can
lecture on genealogy software.

General overview of the 3 you haven't tried:
RootsMagic probably has the smallest learning curve.  However, I've read
that some people find that they outgrow that program rather easily.
However, there's a RM User Group at one of my local genealogy societies,
and there are a couple of engineers in there.  So it's whatever makes you
happy.

Legacy has a pleasing user interface and a smaller learning curve.  It can
be a fairly powerful program, too.  It's Source Writer is absolutely
fantastic.  No other program has a source feature like that.  I'd have to
look up the cons for Legacy.

TMG is the most powerful program out there.  They have a bit of a learning
curve, but they have tried to do things to make it easier (they have a
beginner's mode vs. an advanced mode).  Their filtering feature is awesome
(you have to practice learning how to use it, though).  And it's just about
completely customizable too.  So you don't like the user interface out of
the box, you can change it.

When I bought a genealogy program in the mid-90s (I think this was back in
the Windows 3.1 days), I had 2 criteria.  1) It had to have a character
field long enough to take a city name the length of Ribeira das Tainhas or
Vila Franca do Campo.  2) It had to take diacritics.  Those accented
letters. I wanted the names to be written properly.  I wanted José de
Mello, not Jose de Mello.  Only 1 program on the market could do that at
that time.  Now, it's a moot point.  They can all do that.

So if you have any specific concerns for a genealogy program, ask away.  Or
try all 3 and then ask away.  But make fake family and marry yourself to
yourself, mess up on dates and make someone born after they died, make
someone have a baby out of wedlock, etc.  See how each program handles or
display these things.

Also, depending on where you live, see if there is User Group in your area
(all the web sites above have a User Groups section where you can check to
see if there is one in your area).  We get people dropping in to our group
wanting to see what the program is like before they purchase it.

Cheri Mello
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-28 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
 

I used Family Tree Maker for a number of years and for the most part I liked 
it. I started finding that there were things I could not do with it in 
searching and printing so after much consideration I got The Master 
Genealogist. The first thing is that it is not upgraded every year to a new 
version which you have to spend another $40 to get the latest version. I bought 
TMG about 4 years ago about $80 and since then FTM has changed times. So while 
the initial cost is higher in the long run it is cheaper. With FTM I never used 
the on line tree or signed up for Ancestry which I do not need.

 

The program is difficult to learn and takes time but the more I use it the 
better I like it. Cheri has been using it much longer then me so perhaps she 
will chime in.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

 

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I was searching for genealogy programs as I bought Family Tree Maker but don't 
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great program. Anyone have any thoughts? I am starting my genealogy search 
again and hope to be able to put everything into some program before I loose 
everything.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy program

2014-01-28 Thread Cheri Mello
Geez, Rick, thanks for blowing my cover! LOL

TMG has the Silver Edition for $34 (download only) or $40 (CD Rom and
electronic Users Guide).  The Gold Edition is $60 (download only) or $70
(CD-ROM  electronic Users Guide).  There is a chart that explains the
difference: http://goo.gl/IAjTsk

The current version is 8.0.  To go from 7.0 to 8.0, I paid $30.  And when
they come up with version 9.0, it will be something along those lines.  And
it will take them 2 or 3 years to come out with 9.0

I started with TMG 2.5 in the mid-90s.  Here it is, almost 20 years later
and TMG is up to version 8.0.  That's 6 version changes in 20 years, which
averages out to you shelling out more money every 3.3 years.

I like the filtering.  If I'm trying to figure out my Ponta Garca people,
so I can run the filter for everyone born in Ponta Garca.  Or married in
Ponta Garca. Or, or, or.  OR, it can be and, and, and.  This does take some
time to learn.  I also like customizing my Pick List.  This is the index
of people.  Mine is set up to show the names, date of birth, date of death,
father's name, mother's name, and spouse's name.  So, if I'm looking at my
25 Manuel Silvas, I can really see which one I want to work on.  There are
other fields I can put in too (or take out).

I pretty much like it how it comes out to the box.  The main screen shows
my subject person and all their details/events that happened in their
life.  So if it was displaying my immigrant ancestor, I would see the
birth, immigration, censuses, WW1 Draft, dispensation (I had to make a
tag or event for that), marriage(s), children, occupation, death,
burial.  All of that, right there, in my face.  Not hidden behind an icon.
I like that.  To the right of that screen, I have 3 boxes: His children,
his siblings, and his associates.  Some people have their Flags open.  I
toggle that one off and on.

I also have a couple of other layouts.  I have one for the projector at
my genealogy society.  That's no big deal, really.  I also have one called
Project Explorer where I have my Details window open and my Pick List
open.  This is for me to clean my database.  Well, split it.  Should have
split my dad's Portuguese lines from his American lines years ago before
merging it with my mom's.  My mom has no Portuguese ancestry and is not
related to him that way.  Yeah, DNA proved that they are 6th cousins, but
it's on my dad's one an only German line way back in the 1740s.

Cheri Mello
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