Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

['Kamw710' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you Cheri.
I will be looking into this. Will probably need some advice as I delve further. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

Kathy-Anne,
Here's the link:
goo.gl/GCreTM

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On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 11:12 AM, 'Kamw710' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Cheri,
> Where can i access the info for dna testing? My mums paternal side (my
> grandfather) are from The Azores, Faial included.
> Thank you,
> Kathy-Anne Whitehouse
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[AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

['Kamw710' via Azores Genealogy]

Cheri, 
Where can i access the info for dna testing? My mums paternal side (my 
grandfather) are from The Azores, Faial included.
Thank you,
Kathy-Anne Whitehouse

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[AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

['Kamw710' via Azores Genealogy]

My maternalgreat grandfather Jose de Moreas was born in Horts Fayal 
November 6, 1863

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

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Hi Donna -
Please write me off lie  regarding your Wood line.
Thank You,
 
AVA   _netadosAcores@aol.com_ (mailto:netadosaco...@aol.com)  
Vieira Anselmo  of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel  Island
Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial Island  

 
In a message dated 1/2/2016 4:23:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
azores@googlegroups.com writes:

Bella,
My grandfather was from Faial and came to Jamestown, Rhode Island when he  
was 13 years old.   His name was Manuel Furtado Dutra.Just curious to 
see if you have any Furtado, Dutra members in your family  tree.
Thanks,
Donna Dutra Wood
 
 
 
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Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2016 1:41  pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

The  'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after 
showing up on  a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in 
testing 
or genealogy  to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. 
Three grandparents  are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth 
grandparent is from the  continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with 
relatives in Mass and RI  and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and 
Calif growing up. I am  presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just 
let me know! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Bella:  I am doing some research for my husband's cousin.  His name is 
Melvin Silva, Jr.  His grandfather was John Silva.  I have managed to get a 
copy of JOHN COSTA SILVA's death certificate here in California.  It lists 
John's parents as Thomas Silva from Azores and Mary E. from Azores.

This is what I have so far:
Thomas Silva X Maria "Mary" E. Costs:
CHILDREN
John Costa Silva
dob  2 Feb 1881, Faial, Azores (Don't know which village.), died 22 May 
1954, Alameda County, California

Isabel Silva of San Leandro, California
Marianna Silva, Faial, Azores
Manuel Silva, Faial, Azores

So far I have looked in EVERY village for  a Thomas Silva that had a son, 
Joao who was born 2 Feb 1881.  I haven't found anything.


If you should happen to find any info on these people, I would really 
appreciate hearing from you.

Thank you in advance.
P.S. Where did you live in California.  My father's family is from Alameda 
County.  My mother's family is from Santa Clara County.


Shirley in CA

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry


The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing 
up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or 
genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three 
grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent 
is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives 
in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif 
growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me 
know!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Bellla]

Hi Donna, Yes, I have both names several times by the three Avo's - Furtado - 
one was my paternal grandmothers dad originally from Sao Miguel and moved to 
Faial. Others from north of the island. Dutra I have many. My maternal Vava has 
Dutra back to D' Ultra. She is from Castelo Branco and her family goes back to 
the Flanders Belgium folks. My other grandparents from Salao (before that 
Cedros) have Dutras as well. I want to add, my records may not be that helpful 
I only have a bit over 1000 and direct descendants (all my great grands so to 
speak) back to 15/1600s. I have none of their siblings and only some of my 
grts-grand children. I have been trying to fill in the siblings as it has been 
challenging to be contacted by a DNA cousin only to try and figure out how we 
connect. There are several hundred showing up as DNA cousins (my test was with 
23andme) but we have to go back to 18-1500s to find who our mutual grandparents 
are. A person here native to Faial that works on genealogy told me I have 
"many, many, many cousins" all over Faial and the Azores because two of my 
grandparents are from original families that arrived. It became overwhelming. 
With my limited tree I will help if there is anything I can do but I don't go 
online much, or visit groups regularly. I pop on FB more often now in the 
Azores group, check my emai but even that sometimes a month has gone by before 
I logged on. I stay very busy with life in Faial but am willing to share! :) 
Di- 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[dwoodtax via Azores Genealogy]

Bella,
My grandfather was from Faial and came to Jamestown, Rhode Island when he was 
13 years old.   His name was Manuel Furtado Dutra.   Just curious to see if you 
have any Furtado, Dutra members in your family tree.
Thanks,
Donna Dutra Wood
 
 
 
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Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2016 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing up 
on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or 
genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three 
grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent is 
from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives in 
Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif growing 
up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me know! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Patricia Butcher]

Hi Bella,
Glad to see you on the list. Using  Gedmatch we learned we are 7th cousins
through our Cedros & Capelo, Faial ancestors. It took a while comparing &
sharing our trees but it is so  exciting to see each record that connects
us.

Patricia Butcher

Researching Pico & Faial
On Jan 1, 2016 10:41 AM, "Bellla"  wrote:

> The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after
> showing up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in
> testing or genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup
> etc. Three grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth
> grandparent is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England
> with relatives in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI
> Mass and Calif growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help
> anyone just let me know!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Bellla]

The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing up 
on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or 
genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three 
grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent is 
from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives in 
Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif growing 
up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me know! 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

To maximize your help, transfer your DNA from 23andMe to FTDNA (if on the
v3 chip - tested between Nov 2010-Nov 2013). If you  have tested outside of
those dates you'll have to order a new kit from FTDNA. The main sale ended
about 10 hours ago, but the coupons for $10 are good through Sunday at
11:59 pm CST (test is normally $99).

Cheri Mello
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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Bellla  wrote:

> The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after
> showing up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in
> testing or genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup
> etc. Three grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth
> grandparent is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England
> with relatives in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI
> Mass and Calif growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help
> anyone just let me know!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

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It was recommend that I visit this website by a DNA cousin. I have three 
grandparents from Faial. I have had DNA testing done on 23andme. If there is 
anything I can do to help others I will be glad to share. I have a family tree 
as well. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

If your cousins have not DNA tested, they need to do so.

You can transfer your DNA from 23andMe to FTDNA only if it is the v.3 chip
(you tested with 23 and Me between Nov. 2010 and Nov. 2013

We have 1000+ people of Azorean descent who have tested with FTDNA.
Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
Azores DNA Project

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On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:48 PM, BellaMae  wrote:

> It was recommend that I visit this website by a DNA cousin. I have three
> grandparents from Faial. I have had DNA testing done on 23andme. If there
> is anything I can do to help others I will be glad to share. I have a
> family tree as well.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

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Robert,

You then qualify to transfer to FTDNA for $39 (there is a free transfer,
but it's limited).

I believe the directions and the link to the transfer site are here:
https://goo.gl/mI4OEr

You may not get the results back until early next week (they need to sync
your DNA to the FTDNA database). If you upload/transfer this weekend, then
you'll get the results back midweek.

Cheri

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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:50 PM, R Mac  wrote:

> Hi, Cheri
>
> After checking the raw data file, I have confirmed it was the V3 chip that
> was used. The U7 was on my mother's side, which makes sense, since the
> relative from Faial was on that side of the tree.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Robert
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:38 AM, debra jaynes  wrote:
>
>> if you have loaded your data to gedmatch it will have your chip type
>> right next to your name.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 2:47:00 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> The only people eligible to transfer from 23 and Me are the people who
>>> tested with the v3 chip that was used on tests sold between November 2010
>>> and November 2013. There are a couple of ways to find out what chip was
>>> used for your test other than simply the timeframe. One is size; v3 chip
>>> files are about 7.83 MB where v2 and v4 chips are smaller. If you’re tech
>>> savvy, you can unzip the file and check chromosomes: Chromosome 1 for v3
>>> starts at 82154 (rs4477212) where v4 starts at 734462 (rs12564807) and v2
>>> starts with position 742429 (rs3094315).
>>>
>>> This chip is for Family Finder. This is autosomal DNA that transfers
>>> (given the parameters above). Your Y or mtDNA haplogroup of U7 (you did not
>>> specify) will not transfer.
>>>
>>> If you fit the time frame (or can figure it out from the raw data file),
>>> then it's $39 to transfer. No coupon codes for this.
>>>
>>> If you don't fit the time frame, you will have to start fresh with
>>> FTDNA. That's not a bad thing at all.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, R Mac  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Cheri

 Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to
 choose from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from
 Faial, I would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years
 ago through 23andme.com and took their standard test,  which produced
 a lot of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure
 but it evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I
 double checked on the 23 and me site.

 Thanks,
 Robert

 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the
> Faial ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling
> of the grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.
>
> I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you
> tested. Or what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I
> can't tell you what to do next.
> Thanks,
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac  wrote:
>
>> I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only
>> DNA sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available
>> for upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is 
>> rare.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>> On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>>
>>> If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be
>>> DNA tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with 
>>> Faial
>>> ancestry testing.
>>>
>>> And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so
>>> there's no point in DNA testing, yes there is.
>>>
>>> 1) Not everything is on NEPS
>>> 2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
>>> 3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a
>>> mistake.
>>> 4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't
>>> have happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match 
>>> will
>>> be forever thankful that you DNA tested.
>>>
>>> The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are
>>> $10 off coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage
>>> (includes return postage back to 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[R Mac]

Hi, Cheri

After checking the raw data file, I have confirmed it was the V3 chip that
was used. The U7 was on my mother's side, which makes sense, since the
relative from Faial was on that side of the tree.

Hope this helps.

Robert

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:38 AM, debra jaynes  wrote:

> if you have loaded your data to gedmatch it will have your chip type right
> next to your name.
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 2:47:00 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> The only people eligible to transfer from 23 and Me are the people who
>> tested with the v3 chip that was used on tests sold between November 2010
>> and November 2013. There are a couple of ways to find out what chip was
>> used for your test other than simply the timeframe. One is size; v3 chip
>> files are about 7.83 MB where v2 and v4 chips are smaller. If you’re tech
>> savvy, you can unzip the file and check chromosomes: Chromosome 1 for v3
>> starts at 82154 (rs4477212) where v4 starts at 734462 (rs12564807) and v2
>> starts with position 742429 (rs3094315).
>>
>> This chip is for Family Finder. This is autosomal DNA that transfers
>> (given the parameters above). Your Y or mtDNA haplogroup of U7 (you did not
>> specify) will not transfer.
>>
>> If you fit the time frame (or can figure it out from the raw data file),
>> then it's $39 to transfer. No coupon codes for this.
>>
>> If you don't fit the time frame, you will have to start fresh with FTDNA.
>> That's not a bad thing at all.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, R Mac  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Cheri
>>>
>>> Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to
>>> choose from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from
>>> Faial, I would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years
>>> ago through 23andme.com and took their standard test,  which produced a
>>> lot of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure but
>>> it evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I
>>> double checked on the 23 and me site.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the
 Faial ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling
 of the grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.

 I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you
 tested. Or what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I
 can't tell you what to do next.
 Thanks,
 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac  wrote:

> I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only
> DNA sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available
> for upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
> On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>
>> If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be
>> DNA tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with 
>> Faial
>> ancestry testing.
>>
>> And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so
>> there's no point in DNA testing, yes there is.
>>
>> 1) Not everything is on NEPS
>> 2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
>> 3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a
>> mistake.
>> 4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't
>> have happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match 
>> will
>> be forever thankful that you DNA tested.
>>
>> The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are
>> $10 off coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage
>> (includes return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>> Azores DNA project
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[R Mac]

I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only DNA
sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available for
upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.

Thanks,
Robert
On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA
> tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial
> ancestry testing.
>
> And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so there's
> no point in DNA testing, yes there is.
>
> 1) Not everything is on NEPS
> 2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
> 3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a mistake.
> 4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't have
> happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will be
> forever thankful that you DNA tested.
>
> The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10 off
> coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage (includes
> return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).
>
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
> Azores DNA project
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the Faial
ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling of the
grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.

I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you tested.
Or what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I can't tell
you what to do next.
Thanks,
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac  wrote:

> I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only DNA
> sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available for
> upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
> On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>
>> If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA
>> tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial
>> ancestry testing.
>>
>> And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so there's
>> no point in DNA testing, yes there is.
>>
>> 1) Not everything is on NEPS
>> 2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
>> 3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a mistake.
>> 4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't have
>> happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will be
>> forever thankful that you DNA tested.
>>
>> The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10
>> off coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage
>> (includes return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>> Azores DNA project
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[R Mac]

Hi, Cheri

Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to
choose from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from
Faial, I would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years
ago through 23andme.com and took their standard test,  which produced a lot
of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure but it
evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I double
checked on the 23 and me site.

Thanks,
Robert

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the Faial
> ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling of the
> grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.
>
> I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you tested.
> Or what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I can't tell
> you what to do next.
> Thanks,
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac  wrote:
>
>> I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only DNA
>> sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available for
>> upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>> On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>>
>>> If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA
>>> tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial
>>> ancestry testing.
>>>
>>> And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so there's
>>> no point in DNA testing, yes there is.
>>>
>>> 1) Not everything is on NEPS
>>> 2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
>>> 3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a mistake.
>>> 4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't have
>>> happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will be
>>> forever thankful that you DNA tested.
>>>
>>> The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10
>>> off coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage
>>> (includes return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>>> Azores DNA project
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

Robert,

The only people eligible to transfer from 23 and Me are the people who
tested with the v3 chip that was used on tests sold between November 2010
and November 2013. There are a couple of ways to find out what chip was
used for your test other than simply the timeframe. One is size; v3 chip
files are about 7.83 MB where v2 and v4 chips are smaller. If you’re tech
savvy, you can unzip the file and check chromosomes: Chromosome 1 for v3
starts at 82154 (rs4477212) where v4 starts at 734462 (rs12564807) and v2
starts with position 742429 (rs3094315).

This chip is for Family Finder. This is autosomal DNA that transfers (given
the parameters above). Your Y or mtDNA haplogroup of U7 (you did not
specify) will not transfer.

If you fit the time frame (or can figure it out from the raw data file),
then it's $39 to transfer. No coupon codes for this.

If you don't fit the time frame, you will have to start fresh with FTDNA.
That's not a bad thing at all.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, R Mac  wrote:

> Hi, Cheri
>
> Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to
> choose from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from
> Faial, I would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years
> ago through 23andme.com and took their standard test,  which produced a
> lot of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure but
> it evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I
> double checked on the 23 and me site.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the Faial
>> ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling of the
>> grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.
>>
>> I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you tested.
>> Or what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I can't tell
>> you what to do next.
>> Thanks,
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac  wrote:
>>
>>> I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only DNA
>>> sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available for
>>> upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robert
>>> On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>>>
 If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA
 tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial
 ancestry testing.

 And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so
 there's no point in DNA testing, yes there is.

 1) Not everything is on NEPS
 2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
 3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a
 mistake.
 4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't
 have happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will
 be forever thankful that you DNA tested.

 The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10
 off coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage
 (includes return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).

 Cheri Mello
 Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
 Azores DNA project

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[AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA
tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial
ancestry testing.

And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so there's no
point in DNA testing, yes there is.

1) Not everything is on NEPS
2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a mistake.
4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't have
happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will be
forever thankful that you DNA tested.

The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10 off
coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage (includes
return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
Azores DNA project

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Edna Epps]

I have a lot of family from Faial on my Mother’s side.  Mostly de Faria and 
Mattos, but a lot of other names as well.  I have a lot of my family tested on 
Ancestry and also on FTDNA.  I’ve also uploaded all the DNA tests to GEDMATCH.  
 You can email directly and maybe I can help.

Edna Lemos Epps
dave-e...@comcast.net
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morning / For His guidance through the day, / Thank Him for the many blessings 
/ He in love has sent your way. / When you’re asking aid from Heaven, / Mingle 
with your morning prayer / A word of praise and gratitude / For all His kindly 
care.”

On Dec 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, R Mac  wrote:

Hi, Cheri

Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to choose 
from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from Faial, I 
would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years ago through 
23andme.com  and took their standard test,  which produced 
a lot of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure but 
it evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I double 
checked on the 23 and me site.

Thanks,
Robert  

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello > wrote:
It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the Faial 
ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling of the 
grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.

I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you tested. Or 
what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I can't tell you 
what to do next.
Thanks,
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac > wrote:
I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only DNA sample 
I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available for upload?? I 
also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.

Thanks, 
Robert

On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello" > wrote:
If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA tested. 
The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial ancestry 
testing. 

And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so there's no 
point in DNA testing, yes there is.

1) Not everything is on NEPS
2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a mistake.
4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't have 
happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will be 
forever thankful that you DNA tested.

The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10 off 
coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage (includes 
return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
Azores DNA project

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[debra jaynes]

if you have loaded your data to gedmatch it will have your chip type right 
next to your name.

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 2:47:00 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Robert, 
>
> The only people eligible to transfer from 23 and Me are the people who 
> tested with the v3 chip that was used on tests sold between November 2010 
> and November 2013. There are a couple of ways to find out what chip was 
> used for your test other than simply the timeframe. One is size; v3 chip 
> files are about 7.83 MB where v2 and v4 chips are smaller. If you’re tech 
> savvy, you can unzip the file and check chromosomes: Chromosome 1 for v3 
> starts at 82154 (rs4477212) where v4 starts at 734462 (rs12564807) and v2 
> starts with position 742429 (rs3094315).
>
> This chip is for Family Finder. This is autosomal DNA that transfers 
> (given the parameters above). Your Y or mtDNA haplogroup of U7 (you did not 
> specify) will not transfer.
>
> If you fit the time frame (or can figure it out from the raw data file), 
> then it's $39 to transfer. No coupon codes for this.
>
> If you don't fit the time frame, you will have to start fresh with FTDNA. 
> That's not a bad thing at all.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, R Mac  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Cheri
>>
>> Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to 
>> choose from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from 
>> Faial, I would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years 
>> ago through 23andme.com and took their standard test,  which produced a 
>> lot of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure but 
>> it evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I 
>> double checked on the 23 and me site.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert  
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Cheri Mello > > wrote:
>>
>>> It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the 
>>> Faial ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling 
>>> of the grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.
>>>
>>> I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you 
>>> tested. Or what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I 
>>> can't tell you what to do next.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM, R Mac >> > wrote:
>>>
 I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only 
 DNA sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available 
 for upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.

 Thanks, 
 Robert 
 On Dec 15, 2015 4:32 PM, "Cheri Mello"  
 wrote:

> If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be 
> DNA tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with 
> Faial 
> ancestry testing. 
>
> And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so 
> there's no point in DNA testing, yes there is.
>
> 1) Not everything is on NEPS
> 2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.
> 3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a 
> mistake.
> 4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't 
> have happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match 
> will 
> be forever thankful that you DNA tested.
>
> The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10 
> off coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage 
> (includes return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).
>
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
> Azores DNA project
>
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