Here are a couple of more from Ancestry. Listed under debem
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Francisco Debem
Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1942
Birth Year: abt 1916
Age: 26
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Portuguese
Port of Departure: Lisbon, Portugal
Port of Arrival: New York, New York To
*Hello group.
Today while going through all of my files, I realized that along with the
Obituary of my mother's father(non portuguese) I also had two that may
interest members of this group. I have the original pdf if anyone is
interested in either of these ladies.*
*Thank you, Lisa*
*Hayward
Thanks Cheri.
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Thank you Margaret. I will wait for your news.
eliseu
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Hi Michelle,
I am overwhelmed with all this information and cannot THANK YOU enough.
It does indeed appear that this is the right Pedro do REGO.
No I don't know if he had a brother or any other siblings. Most of my
information is on the GARCIA/GRACE family. Margaret [Margarida ]GRACE is my
Thanks Karlushko!
eliseu
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Thanks George
eliseu
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I found these
PIMENTEL
PIMENTEL, BARTOLOMEU DA ROCHA -
PIMENTEL, BOAVENTURA DE CAMARGO c.1767 -
PIMENTEL, FRANCISCO ALVES -
PIMENTEL, ISABEL DA COSTA -
PIMENTEL, JOÃO FERREIRA -
PIMENTEL, JOÃO PIRES -
PIMENTEL, MARIANA BUENO DA ROCHA c.1716 -
PIMENTEL, SEBASTIANA -
Karlushko -
Dearest friend
I sugest you separate DEBEM for de Bem
Otherwise our good helpers from this group will start looking for DEBEM and will
come up next to nothing
Regards
Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando:
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores,
Karlushko,
Debem De bem - I posted this the way it was listed on Ancestry. When I
searched Bem on Ancestry, I gave those results. When I searched for de bem,
there was nothing. When I put the two together debem, I found the results I
posted. I leave it to listers to separate the two.
E
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Strange. But thanks.
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:32 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:
Karlushko,
Debem De bem - I posted this the way it was listed on Ancestry. When I
searched Bem on Ancestry, I gave those results. When I searched for de bem,
there was nothing. When I put the two
When researching your immigrant ancestor in America (not sure about Canada),
you have to try the prefix with and without the space. De Bem and then try
Debem. de mello and DeMello. Da Silva and dasilva. Etc, etc. And then try
the Anglizations of the name.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Lionel,
I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found
the following for BEM:
I hope this helps with your research.
Eugenia
Bem -
Has a Armorial
Bem, de Bem -
Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS,
SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol.
Eliseu,
I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found
the following on MAGRO:
I hope this helps with your research. Eugenia
Magro -
Magro -
Masculine name.
Family name. Origin: Azores. Armorial: Yes.
Information is from the book:
James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE
Eliseu,
I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings for the
name: AZEDO and I found the following. I hope this helps with your
research. Eugenia
Azedo -
Masculine name.
Azedo - Is a Family name of a Azores Family.
Information is from:
James H. Guill, PhD. AZORES ISLANDS A
Lost and found and oh, never mind!
Called the cemetery. They have only one Manuel Mello in the cemetery - my
ancestor. There is no other baby buried with him. They cemetery has the
cemetery book by the genealogy society. They think that it's a typo (like
they were typing and got interrupted
Boy that is a tough one to read! But, what caught my eye, is Barojo...my
family
came from Flores and here in the states their surname became Brio...I have been
trying to figure them out for years now...anyway, I was wondering if maybe Brio
was once Barojo??? My ancestors are Jose Francisco
Cheri,
It may still be possible there WAS another Manuel. A few months ago,
I found out my grandparents had a stillborn child who is listed as
being buried in family plot on death record. However, she is not
listed on the cemetery records. The cemetery told me, at that time,
they buried the
I know that she had 2 other children that did not live to adulthood. One
was a baby one may have been around 2 or 3. That cemetery has pretty good
records. It also does not make sense that they would have gone miles and
miles to a place that they did not reside in for almost 20 years. The typo
Please send me the link, its to small to read it
I will try from there.
Best regards
Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando:
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão,
Magro in portuguese means SKINNY
Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando:
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão,
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes,
Yes, Eliseu, Antonio married twice. The first time in PG to Joana de
Resendes, Oct 14, 1731, filha de Manuel Afonso de Carvalho and Barbara
de Resendes. The second time in PG to Antonia Margarida Furtado, Dec
10, 1736, filha de Francisco Raposo Travassos and Teresa Furtado. All
are natives and
Karlushko,
English people don't put DeBem, DaSilva, etc. Americans do. I don't
know about the Canadians and how they handle it. Since America was settled
initially by many English, who don't use prefixes with their surnames, they
didn't know what to do with prefixes. So they ran them together
Cheri, Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough
explanation. I had always accepted that things were confused but never
really thought about the reasons why.
This is not the only area where the Portuguese names don't mesh with
other, more common languages in genealogy. I like
Hi Jesse,
Since Ancestry's home base is in Utah, they are probably going to go by the
American standard of doing things.
I can't remember all the genealogy programs at the moment, but some of them
have an option to assign the father's surname or to turn that feature off.
You might check to see
Dear
If they ask us to write our name Ricardo da Silva, why they change?
They ask us to spell it, they ask us to write it, still they put all together.
Its a problem for you all (at least some) instead of looking for Silva or Souza
they are going to look for DASILVA, DESOUZA, this way makes
Karlushko,
Most forms in America have a first name field and a surname field. There is
no field for a pre-surname. So if your first name is Ricardo, then your
last name is da Silva and if you put da Silva in the surname field, surnames
must be capitalized so they wind up putting Da Silva. Some
Cheri, as you know, I put the records for the old Catholic cemetery in Hayward
into a database. The cemetery began burying people in 1875. The graves were
purchased (I entered the deed book information) and there was no perpetual
care. That means that the person who owned the grave was
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